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I am trying to make a realistic dragonfly fly. I can't find out how to make wings. I dont want to just use yarn that is unwound. Anyone know how to make wings and what do I need to make them

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

To fish with? You'll be a long time on the water before you see a trout eat a dragonfly adult. Nymphs that hang out around the weed margins..yes, but not the winged adult. Better chance of a human getting killed in an airliner crash than an adult dragonfly getting killed by a trout.

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from weedless97 wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

Crystal flash or deer hair work great!

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from Hoski wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

I used brushed out poly yarn.
Check out the photos on my profile if you wish.

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from a.rank wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

if you're wanting to make one that mimics the small dragonflies, you could use tail hair from a whitetail possibly, last time I tried to make one was several years ago, but at the time I hadn't thought of using whitetail hair.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

a.rank..come on guys! Those are NOT small dragonflys! And fish will take damselfly adults at a certain time of year. So how is their wing position?

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from jamesti wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

he never said anything about using it for trout. i know bass will hit adult dragon flies, though. antron will work if you separate it a little and brush it out.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

Very true. Posters should better explain themselves. Bass would engulf a dragonfly, but still would bet they don't take the real thing but very, very seldom. Might just jump on a fly though. Sure wouldn't be my choice of flies. I'd rather choose something they would have a chance to feed on more often. Seldom will you ever see a dragonfly sitting on the water. On a stick up, but not on the water.

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from Mibasshunter wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

sayfu- if i wanted to fish for trout i would of said so. either way what does it matter? i ask how to make wings not what to fish for with a dragonfly. thank you for not answering the question.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

so Mibasshunter. You are wearing them in your lapel? Next time on your bass water look and see how many dragonflies you see on the water. I will say NONE. Fish of any kind can not capture a dragonfly. And I couldn't answer your question very well because I never fish a dragonfly ADULT. I do fish their close cousin, the smaller damselflies, but I would have to know that is what you are talking about because the hold their wings a certain way, and really no need to even duplicate their wings.

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from santa wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

I have never made a dragonfly type of lure or "fly" but it would not be too hard to use 0.006" paino wire and twist together two elongated figure 8's. Then lay them down on wax paper and spray several coats of clear laquer paint to fill the centers of the wings for webbing. Bread wrapper tie wire is usually around 0.015" and just might work but would be heavier than the paino wire.

As for what a bass will eat, over the years I have found whole birds, baby ducks, frogs, live snakes, bottle caps, pop tops, and even a wristwatch in bass when cleaning them. My experience with trout is more with spotted seatrout and sand/silver seatrout,(specks and white trout) which have just a little more selective diet. But even they eat artificial lures. So do your own thing and happy fishing.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

Santa. Remember, this IS a flyfishing site. There are other sites. Being that it IS a flyfishing site, I think he wants his dragonfly to FLOAT! Piano wire surely would not get it to float! Use a grey ZELON synthetic fiber, figure 8 it in at the thorax. Dub around the thorax with whatever dubbing you want, and done. I would be using a white piece of floating flyline that I water proof stripe market down it, and tied it in extending past the hook so that I could enhance the flotation, make the fly bigger on a smaller hook, say a #6, or # 8 dry fly hook. Then I would also use a piece of white, floating yarn tied in first as a post in the middle of my zelon wings,(done before I dub the thorax) prepare a grizzly hackle from a dry fly neck...one of the bigger ones, and parachute the pattern for floatation, with the hackle making the zelon wings look like they are flaring, and the white post so I can see it. Easy to apply flotant to the yarn post as well. Not easy to find a piece of old white, floating flyline. Many fly shops sell the stuff rolled up for an extended body on patterns like this...then you can just stripe the white...I use black and purple, but just black would probably do just as well also.

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from santa wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

Sayfu, I must admit that I am not a very experienced fly fisherman, but I have fly fished for snook, redfish and even sharks. I do know that there are two basic types of flies, DRY and WET. The wet flies are designed to sink and work very good on salt water fish where I have mostly used them. Some fly lines are even made with lead cores so that they will sink. I learn something new each day and have an open mind, that is why I enjoy this open forum so much. It has a wealth of knowledge from the people that post here. I along with many other people do make mistakes, but it is never my purpose to mislead anyone. So if I was off too much on my suggestion, I will humbly appologize. Yet I have floated a paper clip on water hundreds of times to demonstrate the surface tension of water. Try it yourself with a common sewing needle. If the wings are made as I described and the body of the dragon fly is not too heavy, the surface area of the wings alone will float it merely from the surface tension of the water.

But you do describe a great way to make a dry fly and I agree whole heartly that your way will also work. Your experience with dry flies is much greater than mine and I gladly admit it. But, have tolerance for others that want to try new or different things which you may not agree with. Mibasshunter, just my be a "bass hunter" as the name implies and flies are used as an enticing, alluring, and tantalizing attractant for many species of fish from pan fish to sharks. And just because you have not tried it, do not knock it. What may work for one, may not work for another. It is the experimentation and trying of new and different things that has advanced our world so much. The adult dragonfly could just turn out to be the next new hot thing for fishing trout streams. Then again it may just be a good learning experience.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

santa..I know all about the meniscus of the water, and the tension involved. You can float a bare hook as well. But a winged adult dragonfly needs to be tied with floatation materials, light materials as well. Once it gets wet, down she goes far to fast for a dryfly creation. And a cast would have to be perfect to float metal, like you, and I suggested can be done. Come to think of it, twer I into creating a BASS designed dry fly, dragonfly I would think of FOAM so that I could "gurgle" the fly, pop it under then have it bounce back to the surface. That seems more attractive to a bass then just letting it sit floating with the current like I would have it do most of the time on the river fishing for trout. Then again, if I caught a fish, I also know that dragonflies seldom EVER land on the surface of the water. They fly way too well to ever get knocked down into the water by wind. And I apologize for getting a little strong making a point. That is how I tend to do, especially on the internet.

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from santa wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

Sayfu, Blue styrofoam would make a nice dragonfly body and could be painted with latex paint to look real. It would not absorb water and would give a nice smooth surface more like the real thing. With a tail hook and a through wire along with mylar covered light wire wings, would look very real. The angle of the wings could be adjusted to make the thing to plane or dart or even dive on the retrieve when used as a bass lure. Bass do jump out of the water and take insects and small birds off low hanging limbs out over the water. Thus it might not be pratcical as a fly, but I bet it would make a great casting lure for bass.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

Bottom line is...WE like to think why a fish took our fly. Why the fish took it can be a 180 degrees from what we thought. Many times it is ACTION materials, can be the struggling/injured, vulnerable thing that triggers the strike. And the size can relate to the protein value the fish sees himself capturing. I had invisioned a foam piece tied up front angled back, do my thorax, wing thing, and then pull the foam over the thorax, and the front foam forward of where I tied it down behind the head trimmed to be the head portion. You could even put black dots on each side of the foam/head portion for eyes. Wouldn't take a lot of action..just short pull to create a slight wake, maybe pop it under the surface, and the foam would enhance bringing it back to the surface. Fun stuff to play around with. You have to consider a few things that I like to do...castability being one of them.

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from Mibasshunter wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

sayfu- soon i will be posting pictures of the steps. i simply cut foam pieces for the thorax and tail from foam sheets and trimmed and painted them. next i put the pentagon-shape veins of dragonfly wings on a piece of tissue paper and then covered it in packaging tape. i dont know if it will work because its winter but this summer i will try it then come back to this answers and post it. if it works maybe you should try it sayfu. :)

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from Mibasshunter wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

the pictures are up for the body and tail.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

And you are casting it using a flyrod no? ..not a bubble casting it with a spinning outfit. Here's the deal on those kind of wings. The thing about my wing is it is based on years of tying, and casting flies. What happens with wings that air can not pass through the wing when cast, is it helicopters, spins like a propeller, and twists up the leader. There are commercial wings sold like that for smaller flies, and they look realistic, but they do the spin thing if they do not lay flat over the body, but stand up at all, and don't work. And for the fishes reaction to them?...I take some motion over realism. If the fish sees the silhouette, and the wings would move some on the strip/stop..that, for me, is better than stiff, realistic wings. That is why the rubber legs have been such a strike trigger when used...motion, and it indicates to the fish it is a living organism.

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from Sayfu wrote 15 weeks 6 days ago

Where'd this Mibasshunter go? Musta tried to cast one of those new wing designed flies of his, and he took off with the fly, and hasn't come down yet. lol !

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from Mibasshunter wrote 15 weeks 4 days ago

HaHa. This website isnt my life sayfu. OH and your comment about how the air cant pass through the wings. Ha! If the air cant go through the wings and it spins than I can cut spaces in between some of the veins.By the way lol! is a rediculous statement. i wish people would stop using text talk. would you really say laugh out loud in a conversation? probably not.

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from Mibasshunter wrote 15 weeks 4 days ago

HaHa. This website isnt my life sayfu. OH and your comment about how the air cant pass through the wings. Ha! If the air cant go through the wings and it spins than I can cut spaces in between some of the veins.By the way lol! is a rediculous statement. i wish people would stop using text talk. would you really say laugh out loud in a conversation? probably not.

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from Sayfu wrote 15 weeks 4 days ago

Sure people say it..I hear "for cryin out loud" all the time. But before tying those wings, you really should have known something about the dragonfly, and also about solid wings, and how they cast. Sayfu could have told you. Matter of fact, he tried to tell you.

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from Mibasshunter wrote 15 weeks 4 days ago

lol! omg! gtif! yah, that sounds so awsome. oh wait, it doesn't. yah you hear for crying out loud but not laugh out loud. oh and it's trial and error. seems how it's winter i couldn't try it. so thanks for the advice. lol, oh sorry i meant good bye.

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from Sayfu wrote 15 weeks 3 days ago

Just remember this...Realistic flies, and there are some incredible realistic flies, by commericial tiers that tie at these big fly fishing sport shows....they look like they would crawl right off the table...do not fish worth a darn. Rigid, no movement. You need to know what a fish sees, and what "triggers" a strike. I use to wear a realistic looking crawdad in the front of a hat for show. You never do know all of that, but you can often get it right. Getting into the fishes world is a fun challenge. I'm an old fart now, and constantly try to solve the riddle, and never will get it right, but for a fraction of the time.

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from badsmerf wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

Yes! The dragonfly thread! I thought it was a different one. For what its worth, sayfu is kinda spot on with a dragonfly fly not being worth your time. There are plenty other flies that will work much better.

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from weedless97 wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

Crystal flash or deer hair work great!

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from Hoski wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

I used brushed out poly yarn.
Check out the photos on my profile if you wish.

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from a.rank wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

if you're wanting to make one that mimics the small dragonflies, you could use tail hair from a whitetail possibly, last time I tried to make one was several years ago, but at the time I hadn't thought of using whitetail hair.

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from jamesti wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

he never said anything about using it for trout. i know bass will hit adult dragon flies, though. antron will work if you separate it a little and brush it out.

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from Mibasshunter wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

sayfu- if i wanted to fish for trout i would of said so. either way what does it matter? i ask how to make wings not what to fish for with a dragonfly. thank you for not answering the question.

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from santa wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

Sayfu, I must admit that I am not a very experienced fly fisherman, but I have fly fished for snook, redfish and even sharks. I do know that there are two basic types of flies, DRY and WET. The wet flies are designed to sink and work very good on salt water fish where I have mostly used them. Some fly lines are even made with lead cores so that they will sink. I learn something new each day and have an open mind, that is why I enjoy this open forum so much. It has a wealth of knowledge from the people that post here. I along with many other people do make mistakes, but it is never my purpose to mislead anyone. So if I was off too much on my suggestion, I will humbly appologize. Yet I have floated a paper clip on water hundreds of times to demonstrate the surface tension of water. Try it yourself with a common sewing needle. If the wings are made as I described and the body of the dragon fly is not too heavy, the surface area of the wings alone will float it merely from the surface tension of the water.

But you do describe a great way to make a dry fly and I agree whole heartly that your way will also work. Your experience with dry flies is much greater than mine and I gladly admit it. But, have tolerance for others that want to try new or different things which you may not agree with. Mibasshunter, just my be a "bass hunter" as the name implies and flies are used as an enticing, alluring, and tantalizing attractant for many species of fish from pan fish to sharks. And just because you have not tried it, do not knock it. What may work for one, may not work for another. It is the experimentation and trying of new and different things that has advanced our world so much. The adult dragonfly could just turn out to be the next new hot thing for fishing trout streams. Then again it may just be a good learning experience.

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from Mibasshunter wrote 15 weeks 4 days ago

HaHa. This website isnt my life sayfu. OH and your comment about how the air cant pass through the wings. Ha! If the air cant go through the wings and it spins than I can cut spaces in between some of the veins.By the way lol! is a rediculous statement. i wish people would stop using text talk. would you really say laugh out loud in a conversation? probably not.

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from Mibasshunter wrote 15 weeks 4 days ago

lol! omg! gtif! yah, that sounds so awsome. oh wait, it doesn't. yah you hear for crying out loud but not laugh out loud. oh and it's trial and error. seems how it's winter i couldn't try it. so thanks for the advice. lol, oh sorry i meant good bye.

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from santa wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

I have never made a dragonfly type of lure or "fly" but it would not be too hard to use 0.006" paino wire and twist together two elongated figure 8's. Then lay them down on wax paper and spray several coats of clear laquer paint to fill the centers of the wings for webbing. Bread wrapper tie wire is usually around 0.015" and just might work but would be heavier than the paino wire.

As for what a bass will eat, over the years I have found whole birds, baby ducks, frogs, live snakes, bottle caps, pop tops, and even a wristwatch in bass when cleaning them. My experience with trout is more with spotted seatrout and sand/silver seatrout,(specks and white trout) which have just a little more selective diet. But even they eat artificial lures. So do your own thing and happy fishing.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

Santa. Remember, this IS a flyfishing site. There are other sites. Being that it IS a flyfishing site, I think he wants his dragonfly to FLOAT! Piano wire surely would not get it to float! Use a grey ZELON synthetic fiber, figure 8 it in at the thorax. Dub around the thorax with whatever dubbing you want, and done. I would be using a white piece of floating flyline that I water proof stripe market down it, and tied it in extending past the hook so that I could enhance the flotation, make the fly bigger on a smaller hook, say a #6, or # 8 dry fly hook. Then I would also use a piece of white, floating yarn tied in first as a post in the middle of my zelon wings,(done before I dub the thorax) prepare a grizzly hackle from a dry fly neck...one of the bigger ones, and parachute the pattern for floatation, with the hackle making the zelon wings look like they are flaring, and the white post so I can see it. Easy to apply flotant to the yarn post as well. Not easy to find a piece of old white, floating flyline. Many fly shops sell the stuff rolled up for an extended body on patterns like this...then you can just stripe the white...I use black and purple, but just black would probably do just as well also.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

santa..I know all about the meniscus of the water, and the tension involved. You can float a bare hook as well. But a winged adult dragonfly needs to be tied with floatation materials, light materials as well. Once it gets wet, down she goes far to fast for a dryfly creation. And a cast would have to be perfect to float metal, like you, and I suggested can be done. Come to think of it, twer I into creating a BASS designed dry fly, dragonfly I would think of FOAM so that I could "gurgle" the fly, pop it under then have it bounce back to the surface. That seems more attractive to a bass then just letting it sit floating with the current like I would have it do most of the time on the river fishing for trout. Then again, if I caught a fish, I also know that dragonflies seldom EVER land on the surface of the water. They fly way too well to ever get knocked down into the water by wind. And I apologize for getting a little strong making a point. That is how I tend to do, especially on the internet.

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from santa wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

Sayfu, Blue styrofoam would make a nice dragonfly body and could be painted with latex paint to look real. It would not absorb water and would give a nice smooth surface more like the real thing. With a tail hook and a through wire along with mylar covered light wire wings, would look very real. The angle of the wings could be adjusted to make the thing to plane or dart or even dive on the retrieve when used as a bass lure. Bass do jump out of the water and take insects and small birds off low hanging limbs out over the water. Thus it might not be pratcical as a fly, but I bet it would make a great casting lure for bass.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

Bottom line is...WE like to think why a fish took our fly. Why the fish took it can be a 180 degrees from what we thought. Many times it is ACTION materials, can be the struggling/injured, vulnerable thing that triggers the strike. And the size can relate to the protein value the fish sees himself capturing. I had invisioned a foam piece tied up front angled back, do my thorax, wing thing, and then pull the foam over the thorax, and the front foam forward of where I tied it down behind the head trimmed to be the head portion. You could even put black dots on each side of the foam/head portion for eyes. Wouldn't take a lot of action..just short pull to create a slight wake, maybe pop it under the surface, and the foam would enhance bringing it back to the surface. Fun stuff to play around with. You have to consider a few things that I like to do...castability being one of them.

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from Mibasshunter wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

sayfu- soon i will be posting pictures of the steps. i simply cut foam pieces for the thorax and tail from foam sheets and trimmed and painted them. next i put the pentagon-shape veins of dragonfly wings on a piece of tissue paper and then covered it in packaging tape. i dont know if it will work because its winter but this summer i will try it then come back to this answers and post it. if it works maybe you should try it sayfu. :)

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from Mibasshunter wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

the pictures are up for the body and tail.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 1 day ago

And you are casting it using a flyrod no? ..not a bubble casting it with a spinning outfit. Here's the deal on those kind of wings. The thing about my wing is it is based on years of tying, and casting flies. What happens with wings that air can not pass through the wing when cast, is it helicopters, spins like a propeller, and twists up the leader. There are commercial wings sold like that for smaller flies, and they look realistic, but they do the spin thing if they do not lay flat over the body, but stand up at all, and don't work. And for the fishes reaction to them?...I take some motion over realism. If the fish sees the silhouette, and the wings would move some on the strip/stop..that, for me, is better than stiff, realistic wings. That is why the rubber legs have been such a strike trigger when used...motion, and it indicates to the fish it is a living organism.

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from Mibasshunter wrote 15 weeks 4 days ago

HaHa. This website isnt my life sayfu. OH and your comment about how the air cant pass through the wings. Ha! If the air cant go through the wings and it spins than I can cut spaces in between some of the veins.By the way lol! is a rediculous statement. i wish people would stop using text talk. would you really say laugh out loud in a conversation? probably not.

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from Sayfu wrote 15 weeks 3 days ago

Just remember this...Realistic flies, and there are some incredible realistic flies, by commericial tiers that tie at these big fly fishing sport shows....they look like they would crawl right off the table...do not fish worth a darn. Rigid, no movement. You need to know what a fish sees, and what "triggers" a strike. I use to wear a realistic looking crawdad in the front of a hat for show. You never do know all of that, but you can often get it right. Getting into the fishes world is a fun challenge. I'm an old fart now, and constantly try to solve the riddle, and never will get it right, but for a fraction of the time.

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from badsmerf wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

Yes! The dragonfly thread! I thought it was a different one. For what its worth, sayfu is kinda spot on with a dragonfly fly not being worth your time. There are plenty other flies that will work much better.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

so Mibasshunter. You are wearing them in your lapel? Next time on your bass water look and see how many dragonflies you see on the water. I will say NONE. Fish of any kind can not capture a dragonfly. And I couldn't answer your question very well because I never fish a dragonfly ADULT. I do fish their close cousin, the smaller damselflies, but I would have to know that is what you are talking about because the hold their wings a certain way, and really no need to even duplicate their wings.

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from Sayfu wrote 15 weeks 6 days ago

Where'd this Mibasshunter go? Musta tried to cast one of those new wing designed flies of his, and he took off with the fly, and hasn't come down yet. lol !

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from Sayfu wrote 15 weeks 4 days ago

Sure people say it..I hear "for cryin out loud" all the time. But before tying those wings, you really should have known something about the dragonfly, and also about solid wings, and how they cast. Sayfu could have told you. Matter of fact, he tried to tell you.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

a.rank..come on guys! Those are NOT small dragonflys! And fish will take damselfly adults at a certain time of year. So how is their wing position?

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 2 days ago

Very true. Posters should better explain themselves. Bass would engulf a dragonfly, but still would bet they don't take the real thing but very, very seldom. Might just jump on a fly though. Sure wouldn't be my choice of flies. I'd rather choose something they would have a chance to feed on more often. Seldom will you ever see a dragonfly sitting on the water. On a stick up, but not on the water.

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from Sayfu wrote 16 weeks 3 days ago

To fish with? You'll be a long time on the water before you see a trout eat a dragonfly adult. Nymphs that hang out around the weed margins..yes, but not the winged adult. Better chance of a human getting killed in an airliner crash than an adult dragonfly getting killed by a trout.

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