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I want to learn more about "trout flies". things like life stages(colors, size, region differences, etc), where they are found in the stream as larva, where they hatch on a stream, How water and air temperatures effect things. That sort of stuff. Anybody know of a good book that fits what I'm looking for?

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from fezzant wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Autatic Trout Foods (at least I think that's the correct title) by Dave Whitlock, is one of the premier books on the subject.

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from fezzant wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Sorry - first word should be "Aquatic."

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from dleurquin wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

I'd also recommend Bug Water, by Arlen Thomason. It follows the bugs and the trout through their life cycles from spring through winter. It also has really nice photos of may flies and other aquatic creatures in their different stages, some images even show them from the trout's perspective, so you can get an idea about how to tie your flies based on what the fish sees below the water, not what we see above it.

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Dave Whitlock's book on Aquatic Insects is a good one..but a great read, and very good book on what you refer to I am reading again for the 2nd time, and it is Mike Lawson's book, Spring Creeks. It mainly focuses on insects found in Spring Creeks, and Tail Waters, but some on the freestone rivers as well. Great understanding of what you need to do to match, and catch fish on what fish are feeding on...patterns, strategies, the whole 9 yards. And lots of good stories that put it all into perspective.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

As much as I hate to say this but you may learn more from a video than a book. This is only true for very few subjects and I believe this to be one of them. I have seen some amazing underwater video lately which not only describes the bug cycles but shows them in their natural environment. I believe the name of the last one I saw was "Bugs of the Underworld". Good Luck.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Those of us who fly fish for trout continue to ask the same questions until they shovel dirt in our faces. I knew a guy who could imitate an artificial hatch and resulting rise with 30 perfect casts, and he still asks the same questions.

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from themadflyfisher wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Thank you all.. I bought both Whitlock's and Lawson's books last night and after checking out a clip on you tube of the "bugs of the underworld" I'll definitely be purchasing that as well!

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from clgoogl wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

I've read (and reread) Handbook of Hatches: A Basic Guide to Recognizing Trout Foods and Selecting Flies to Match Them by Dave Hughes.

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from clgoogl wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Also check out http://www.troutnut.com/ ...it has a ton of photos and more scientific information on the aquatic insects.

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

A critical thing here is do you want to just learn about the bugs, their stages, where you find them etc.?... OR, do you also want to include when, where, how the fish take them, and identify what they are taking, and the patterns to use for the various stages as well?

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from themadflyfisher wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Sayfu, Absolutely! I want to know "when, where, how" and why. Things like the caddis fly. What causes it's transformations from larva to pupae to fly to death and where are they most likely found at each stage and how trout behave to each stage.

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

That is what the book I recommended does. You can learn the bugs all you want, the stages, the underwater shots of them, but to learn what flies to chose by what you are observing, and what is triggering the trouts response is the thing I want to know. I want it to relate to my fly fishing success. Some anglers are just into the bugs, and fish very little. Some anglers are into tying flies, and fish very little. And some anglers I have found are into the social, club thing, and fish very little. All my focus is how to be more successful on the water. It seemed to me we were making a number of posts without answering this topic.

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from badsmerf wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Good list so far. I need to read books on this topic as well.

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from fezzant wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Autatic Trout Foods (at least I think that's the correct title) by Dave Whitlock, is one of the premier books on the subject.

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from fezzant wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Sorry - first word should be "Aquatic."

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from dleurquin wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

I'd also recommend Bug Water, by Arlen Thomason. It follows the bugs and the trout through their life cycles from spring through winter. It also has really nice photos of may flies and other aquatic creatures in their different stages, some images even show them from the trout's perspective, so you can get an idea about how to tie your flies based on what the fish sees below the water, not what we see above it.

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from Sayfu wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Dave Whitlock's book on Aquatic Insects is a good one..but a great read, and very good book on what you refer to I am reading again for the 2nd time, and it is Mike Lawson's book, Spring Creeks. It mainly focuses on insects found in Spring Creeks, and Tail Waters, but some on the freestone rivers as well. Great understanding of what you need to do to match, and catch fish on what fish are feeding on...patterns, strategies, the whole 9 yards. And lots of good stories that put it all into perspective.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from buckhunter wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

As much as I hate to say this but you may learn more from a video than a book. This is only true for very few subjects and I believe this to be one of them. I have seen some amazing underwater video lately which not only describes the bug cycles but shows them in their natural environment. I believe the name of the last one I saw was "Bugs of the Underworld". Good Luck.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Those of us who fly fish for trout continue to ask the same questions until they shovel dirt in our faces. I knew a guy who could imitate an artificial hatch and resulting rise with 30 perfect casts, and he still asks the same questions.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from clgoogl wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

I've read (and reread) Handbook of Hatches: A Basic Guide to Recognizing Trout Foods and Selecting Flies to Match Them by Dave Hughes.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from clgoogl wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Also check out http://www.troutnut.com/ ...it has a ton of photos and more scientific information on the aquatic insects.

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sayfu wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

A critical thing here is do you want to just learn about the bugs, their stages, where you find them etc.?... OR, do you also want to include when, where, how the fish take them, and identify what they are taking, and the patterns to use for the various stages as well?

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Sayfu wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

That is what the book I recommended does. You can learn the bugs all you want, the stages, the underwater shots of them, but to learn what flies to chose by what you are observing, and what is triggering the trouts response is the thing I want to know. I want it to relate to my fly fishing success. Some anglers are just into the bugs, and fish very little. Some anglers are into tying flies, and fish very little. And some anglers I have found are into the social, club thing, and fish very little. All my focus is how to be more successful on the water. It seemed to me we were making a number of posts without answering this topic.

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from themadflyfisher wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Thank you all.. I bought both Whitlock's and Lawson's books last night and after checking out a clip on you tube of the "bugs of the underworld" I'll definitely be purchasing that as well!

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from themadflyfisher wrote 2 years 10 weeks ago

Sayfu, Absolutely! I want to know "when, where, how" and why. Things like the caddis fly. What causes it's transformations from larva to pupae to fly to death and where are they most likely found at each stage and how trout behave to each stage.

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from badsmerf wrote 2 years 7 weeks ago

Good list so far. I need to read books on this topic as well.

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