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I've been tying up lots of streamers, anticipating the fall frenzy of meat hungry trout and smallies. I really like clousers and articulated streamers, Kelly Galloup style. What are some of your favorites?
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A big favorite approach is to get up at O'dark 30 and get on the water early before the sun comes up, or stay late...both tough for me to do anymore. White marabou in the Fall once the water cools, maybe along with some olive, but a predominance of white is my favorite whether on a marabou muddler with a bead head to break the surface and get down faster using a sink tip, or on a woolly Bugger bead head. I'll be doin just that here very soon..maybe tomorrow.
i'm a big fan of maribou streamers(thank you merwin), there is an article on this site about them, tied some up been working ever since
I've always done well with Black Ghost streamers, size 10-2.
i've been tying some popsicles and leeches in size 2 for the salmon river.
If you tie with marabou, there is an excellent U-Tube on the Orvis site on how to hackle marabou so the fly looks nice, and moves the best. I have tied many a lousy looking marabous gobbing it on the hook. This video shows the way to tie it in, and wrap it. Popsicle flies? I guided with the guy in Alaska who invented the Popsicle..George Cook.
Marabou and bunny strips are hard to beat for life-like movement. Sometimes I palmer marabou onto the shank, tying it in by the tips then stroking the fibers back as I wrap foward. Makes a great pulsing effect. A fly tied this way with grizzly marabou in tan or olive makes a nice little sculpin pattern. Flytie, the Black Ghost was the first fly I learned to tie. Sayfu, what length is the sinking portion on your sink tip? I use about 24'-30' tip, 200 grain for most of the waters I fish 'round here.
I never thought of hackling or palmering marabou. Sounds interesting. All I've ever done is tie it in with the tips pointing back. I was taught to tie it in sparse. Bunny strips are great. They have good motion when retrieved in long strips. I use them for the tails on some of my diving bass bugs. I've caught bass when I gave a long strip after a long pause.
Backcast....I simplify it, and became good friends with Jim Teeny. He was as good of wet fly fisherman as I have ever heard of, or seen..incredible instincts, eye sight, knowledge of where fish are located etc. Jim designed the 24ft sink tips in different grain wts., and had SA make them for him. His notion is that 24ft. makes for a decent backcast allowing for some floating line to hang off the tip...say 3 ft. or abouts. With this line you then get a good casting flyline that doesn't flop around like say a 10ft tip would because it hinges in the air too far out past your rod tip. I was an avid steelheader but accepted those lines rather than the dedicated steelheader who would knot on sections of tips(looped knotted)...(1e) 12 ft., 18ft, and so on having them with loops in a packet. I vary my sink by the angle that I cast the line rather than changing tips, and using a lousy casting line. A 175 grain to 225 grain are the ones I use most often, and will use one today going streamer fishing with a friend using a 200 grain on my 9.5' Sage SP, and a short leader. The rest of the flyline is a level 3 floater that shoots through the guides very nice. This is my streamer line, and my steelhead line when I want to get down, and swing the fly through the run. The problem with heavier grain lines, is when you want to swing the fly, it is better to swing it just above the fish then have the line hangup 1/2 way through the swing when the line/fly is the deepest. Now, most every line mfger has copied Tenny's 24ft sinktips. You match the grain wt. with your rod wt and there are ranges that will match your rod. So you use the length not just for sink, but for castability.
If you want to make a good looking marabou fly, hackled the top third of the fly, you only use the top 1/3-1/2 of the feather..the good looking finer stem/barbs portion, and tie it in by the very tip portion of the marabou..somewhat wet your fingers to make it go back, and hackle wrap close to each wrap the upper portion of the hook. Next add another color, and do the same right in front of the first color, etc. The guy actually cut off the very end of the tip and tied the feather in by the small portion of stem left. The rest of the feather is left for making tails. He also, after tying in the feather lifts it straight up, and strokes the stem with on blade of his scissors causing the barbs to go back. And as you wrap you use your off hand to stroke the fibers back..makes for a very good looking marabou fly that moves the best in the water.
Oh, I did not tell you that my 9.5 rod is a 7wt. I like all kinds of streamers. I did the Gallop thing for awhile after listening, and watching Gallop tie. I liked his Zoo Cougar fly, but it isn't easy to tie right. It will spin if you use the wrong mallard flank feather that is curved wrong. The fly I like best is the woolly sculpin...not hard to tie, and it is the combo of the woolly bugger, and has a muddler head on it. that is a Gallop fly also I believe. With the marabou tail it makes for a big fly that I feel draws strikes from bigger browns. I like the falling action of the Clouser's also, but sometimes feel they aren't as big as I would like the fly to appear. And I get this opinion from the Rapala throwing guys that catch some monster browns on very large Rapalas.
Yes, I've used the Zoo Couger and Woolly Sculpin also. In fact, was just fishing a Zoo Couger the other day. And you're right, the mallard flank is the determining factor in how that fly swims. Only a small percentage of flank feathers in a package is useable for the ZC. I also like Scott Sanchez's Double Bunny. Nice wide profile.
I sat down with Scott Sanchez, and watched him tie up an ant pattern. The guy is quite a character, and very interesting to listen to, and has a good sense of humor. He used Gorilla glue to make the bulbed body.(two bulbs) Gorilla clue dries with air in it, and he adds a coloring to it, and mixes it up. His attention grabber at shows is a new wrinkle for materials, or a tying method he has come up with. Another one of those notables that lives near me. Hooked, what appeared to be a good fish yesterday on a woolly sculpin that started in after the hookset towards my boat, then shot out into the heavy current, and the hook came out! Never got to see it. My evaluation is I had a lousy hookset using a big hook fished deep. I lifted up like setting the hook using a dryfly, and should have kept the rod low pulling hard to the side rather than lifting up...lifting up doesn't do much to set the hook.
Yeah, I've blown it with a lousy hookset more times than I care to remember. Too much dry fly fishing I guess( if there is such a thing ). Hard to get that muscle memory overide going. What I really hate is the grab that comes on a streamer when you're in the pause as you reach for more line while stripping...and that's when it always seems to come.
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A big favorite approach is to get up at O'dark 30 and get on the water early before the sun comes up, or stay late...both tough for me to do anymore. White marabou in the Fall once the water cools, maybe along with some olive, but a predominance of white is my favorite whether on a marabou muddler with a bead head to break the surface and get down faster using a sink tip, or on a woolly Bugger bead head. I'll be doin just that here very soon..maybe tomorrow.
i'm a big fan of maribou streamers(thank you merwin), there is an article on this site about them, tied some up been working ever since
I've always done well with Black Ghost streamers, size 10-2.
i've been tying some popsicles and leeches in size 2 for the salmon river.
If you tie with marabou, there is an excellent U-Tube on the Orvis site on how to hackle marabou so the fly looks nice, and moves the best. I have tied many a lousy looking marabous gobbing it on the hook. This video shows the way to tie it in, and wrap it. Popsicle flies? I guided with the guy in Alaska who invented the Popsicle..George Cook.
Marabou and bunny strips are hard to beat for life-like movement. Sometimes I palmer marabou onto the shank, tying it in by the tips then stroking the fibers back as I wrap foward. Makes a great pulsing effect. A fly tied this way with grizzly marabou in tan or olive makes a nice little sculpin pattern. Flytie, the Black Ghost was the first fly I learned to tie. Sayfu, what length is the sinking portion on your sink tip? I use about 24'-30' tip, 200 grain for most of the waters I fish 'round here.
I never thought of hackling or palmering marabou. Sounds interesting. All I've ever done is tie it in with the tips pointing back. I was taught to tie it in sparse. Bunny strips are great. They have good motion when retrieved in long strips. I use them for the tails on some of my diving bass bugs. I've caught bass when I gave a long strip after a long pause.
Backcast....I simplify it, and became good friends with Jim Teeny. He was as good of wet fly fisherman as I have ever heard of, or seen..incredible instincts, eye sight, knowledge of where fish are located etc. Jim designed the 24ft sink tips in different grain wts., and had SA make them for him. His notion is that 24ft. makes for a decent backcast allowing for some floating line to hang off the tip...say 3 ft. or abouts. With this line you then get a good casting flyline that doesn't flop around like say a 10ft tip would because it hinges in the air too far out past your rod tip. I was an avid steelheader but accepted those lines rather than the dedicated steelheader who would knot on sections of tips(looped knotted)...(1e) 12 ft., 18ft, and so on having them with loops in a packet. I vary my sink by the angle that I cast the line rather than changing tips, and using a lousy casting line. A 175 grain to 225 grain are the ones I use most often, and will use one today going streamer fishing with a friend using a 200 grain on my 9.5' Sage SP, and a short leader. The rest of the flyline is a level 3 floater that shoots through the guides very nice. This is my streamer line, and my steelhead line when I want to get down, and swing the fly through the run. The problem with heavier grain lines, is when you want to swing the fly, it is better to swing it just above the fish then have the line hangup 1/2 way through the swing when the line/fly is the deepest. Now, most every line mfger has copied Tenny's 24ft sinktips. You match the grain wt. with your rod wt and there are ranges that will match your rod. So you use the length not just for sink, but for castability.
If you want to make a good looking marabou fly, hackled the top third of the fly, you only use the top 1/3-1/2 of the feather..the good looking finer stem/barbs portion, and tie it in by the very tip portion of the marabou..somewhat wet your fingers to make it go back, and hackle wrap close to each wrap the upper portion of the hook. Next add another color, and do the same right in front of the first color, etc. The guy actually cut off the very end of the tip and tied the feather in by the small portion of stem left. The rest of the feather is left for making tails. He also, after tying in the feather lifts it straight up, and strokes the stem with on blade of his scissors causing the barbs to go back. And as you wrap you use your off hand to stroke the fibers back..makes for a very good looking marabou fly that moves the best in the water.
Oh, I did not tell you that my 9.5 rod is a 7wt. I like all kinds of streamers. I did the Gallop thing for awhile after listening, and watching Gallop tie. I liked his Zoo Cougar fly, but it isn't easy to tie right. It will spin if you use the wrong mallard flank feather that is curved wrong. The fly I like best is the woolly sculpin...not hard to tie, and it is the combo of the woolly bugger, and has a muddler head on it. that is a Gallop fly also I believe. With the marabou tail it makes for a big fly that I feel draws strikes from bigger browns. I like the falling action of the Clouser's also, but sometimes feel they aren't as big as I would like the fly to appear. And I get this opinion from the Rapala throwing guys that catch some monster browns on very large Rapalas.
Yes, I've used the Zoo Couger and Woolly Sculpin also. In fact, was just fishing a Zoo Couger the other day. And you're right, the mallard flank is the determining factor in how that fly swims. Only a small percentage of flank feathers in a package is useable for the ZC. I also like Scott Sanchez's Double Bunny. Nice wide profile.
I sat down with Scott Sanchez, and watched him tie up an ant pattern. The guy is quite a character, and very interesting to listen to, and has a good sense of humor. He used Gorilla glue to make the bulbed body.(two bulbs) Gorilla clue dries with air in it, and he adds a coloring to it, and mixes it up. His attention grabber at shows is a new wrinkle for materials, or a tying method he has come up with. Another one of those notables that lives near me. Hooked, what appeared to be a good fish yesterday on a woolly sculpin that started in after the hookset towards my boat, then shot out into the heavy current, and the hook came out! Never got to see it. My evaluation is I had a lousy hookset using a big hook fished deep. I lifted up like setting the hook using a dryfly, and should have kept the rod low pulling hard to the side rather than lifting up...lifting up doesn't do much to set the hook.
Yeah, I've blown it with a lousy hookset more times than I care to remember. Too much dry fly fishing I guess( if there is such a thing ). Hard to get that muscle memory overide going. What I really hate is the grab that comes on a streamer when you're in the pause as you reach for more line while stripping...and that's when it always seems to come.
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