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Not sure where else to put this so I figured here would be best.
Today my father in law and I went to a trout park here in Missouri. I was fishing a portion of the river for about twenty minutes with no one around but a few people just up stream from where i was. I had a few strikes but hadn't caught anything yet and all of a sudden I had to pee pretty badly (I'm going somewhere with this, I promise). I went to the bank of the river, put down my gear in plain sight as if to say, "someone is here". I went less then five feet into the woods and relieved myself. Less than two minutes later, I turn to come back to my spot. Upon returning, there is a guy now fishing where I was. Not only is he fishing my hole, but he has positioned himself in the middle of the stream, fishing down stream, retrieving up stream limiting my fishing to about a five foot distance outward.
I regretfully didn't say what I was thinking, instead I gathered up my gear and moved up stream. My question is, would I have been well within my right to remind this gentlemen (term used loosely) of some etiquette? If there was in fact any etiquette broken?
Question by jbell6826. Uploaded on October 07, 2012
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idk, i guess i cant blame anyone. if someone watched you leave they probably thought it was ok to go ahead and fish the spot thinking you were gone. could have been someone that just showed up and hadnt seen you were their either. i probably wouldnt have said anything.
only time i ever say anything is if im fishing and somebody walks right to where im fishing in the river. i encouter A-holes all the time when steelhead fishing. guys will walk right in next to me and start casting right where im fishing.
You did the right thing. It could have been an honst mistake.
C’est la vie. When this happens, I try to be positive. Maybe I am getting pushed up stream to a better hole that this bozo could have had, but he was too busy trying to prove what a man he is and take mine. And that has actually happened. I have been pushed out and found much better spots. That I keep to myself
What ‘irks me is when I put in the boat at dawn and find a nice cove, start fishing it and 1 hour or 2 later some hotshot with an expensive bass boat with all the trimmings tries to “encourage” me to move. The hidden intent is guys with the most money and biggest boat wins. Clowns like that never realize that fishing is all about the presentation. The size of your boat (or anything else you are trying to prove) has nothing to do with it. Thats why 20% of the fishermen catch 80% of the fish. Then I usually don’t back down. Just quietly keep casting, until they move on.
I will back down in an instant when hunting. Too many guys who have no business carrying firearms, have a tenuous grip on reality and think hunting is zombie killing or going to war, when the other guy can’t shoot back. Then I move on (making as much noise as I can_). No deer is worth dying for.
I find the whole idea of fishing elbow-to-elbow with strangers highly repugnant. I would have moved out even if he hadn't taken the exact spot, but was still within talking range.
Thats just fishing at a trout park.
I would have stayed and within a few moments, I would have asked if I was bothering him, just to see how he replied.
That way, perhaps you could have surmised his intenet,whether it was unknowing or on purpose.
I know it can be frustrating but you probably took the higher road.
Move your feel loose your seat I guess
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Yeah, this is why I try to avoid trout parks. I can't help but think, given the short amount of time I was gone, this guy saw me and my gear. I saw him just upstream from where I was, I would surmise he saw me too.
I would agree that fishing elbow to elbow with other people is not my idea of fun either, but when your in a pinch it beats not fishing at all! Fortunately I did find fish in the holes up stream.
I think you acted appropriately. He may not have seen your gear and, if this is public land, he has a right to fish the stream. You did well to move elsewhere. If you'd been standing there and he interfered with your fishing site, you'd be justified in reacting to that.
Trout parks are notorious for a lack of etiquette. Since ANYONE can fish there, EVERYONE fishes there, 'a-holes' included. I think you did the right thing. But Nan it would've been hard. The right thing often is. The only thing better, to proverbially heap coals on his head would've been to teach him that he would have better luck if he avoided retrieving from downstream up. Ha!
This incident is one of the sad things about trout fishing, and it has been happening for years. I remember my dad telling me stories about opening day of trout season, and how 30 people would crowd a hole with 3 trout in it. I just laugh at these guys and usually end up climbing down a part of the stream that would look like billy goat territory. I go after low pressure fish in really hard to reach places. You did the right thing, besides if there were trout in that hole you would have caught one within the first 3 casts anyway.
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idk, i guess i cant blame anyone. if someone watched you leave they probably thought it was ok to go ahead and fish the spot thinking you were gone. could have been someone that just showed up and hadnt seen you were their either. i probably wouldnt have said anything.
only time i ever say anything is if im fishing and somebody walks right to where im fishing in the river. i encouter A-holes all the time when steelhead fishing. guys will walk right in next to me and start casting right where im fishing.
I find the whole idea of fishing elbow-to-elbow with strangers highly repugnant. I would have moved out even if he hadn't taken the exact spot, but was still within talking range.
Trout parks are notorious for a lack of etiquette. Since ANYONE can fish there, EVERYONE fishes there, 'a-holes' included. I think you did the right thing. But Nan it would've been hard. The right thing often is. The only thing better, to proverbially heap coals on his head would've been to teach him that he would have better luck if he avoided retrieving from downstream up. Ha!
You did the right thing. It could have been an honst mistake.
C’est la vie. When this happens, I try to be positive. Maybe I am getting pushed up stream to a better hole that this bozo could have had, but he was too busy trying to prove what a man he is and take mine. And that has actually happened. I have been pushed out and found much better spots. That I keep to myself
What ‘irks me is when I put in the boat at dawn and find a nice cove, start fishing it and 1 hour or 2 later some hotshot with an expensive bass boat with all the trimmings tries to “encourage” me to move. The hidden intent is guys with the most money and biggest boat wins. Clowns like that never realize that fishing is all about the presentation. The size of your boat (or anything else you are trying to prove) has nothing to do with it. Thats why 20% of the fishermen catch 80% of the fish. Then I usually don’t back down. Just quietly keep casting, until they move on.
I will back down in an instant when hunting. Too many guys who have no business carrying firearms, have a tenuous grip on reality and think hunting is zombie killing or going to war, when the other guy can’t shoot back. Then I move on (making as much noise as I can_). No deer is worth dying for.
Thats just fishing at a trout park.
I would have stayed and within a few moments, I would have asked if I was bothering him, just to see how he replied.
That way, perhaps you could have surmised his intenet,whether it was unknowing or on purpose.
I know it can be frustrating but you probably took the higher road.
Move your feel loose your seat I guess
Lose*
Yeah, this is why I try to avoid trout parks. I can't help but think, given the short amount of time I was gone, this guy saw me and my gear. I saw him just upstream from where I was, I would surmise he saw me too.
I would agree that fishing elbow to elbow with other people is not my idea of fun either, but when your in a pinch it beats not fishing at all! Fortunately I did find fish in the holes up stream.
I think you acted appropriately. He may not have seen your gear and, if this is public land, he has a right to fish the stream. You did well to move elsewhere. If you'd been standing there and he interfered with your fishing site, you'd be justified in reacting to that.
This incident is one of the sad things about trout fishing, and it has been happening for years. I remember my dad telling me stories about opening day of trout season, and how 30 people would crowd a hole with 3 trout in it. I just laugh at these guys and usually end up climbing down a part of the stream that would look like billy goat territory. I go after low pressure fish in really hard to reach places. You did the right thing, besides if there were trout in that hole you would have caught one within the first 3 casts anyway.
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