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Is anyone familiar with PA trout hatcheries? I just saw PA is planning to close two of the major ones that stock northcentral PA and I'm sure will highly impact initial and late season stocking. I'm wondering where "back up" hatcheries are located and the degree stocking will shift after the closure next year? Trout fishing in this region is an annual tradition for thousands, and one of the big times for businesses in a very poor region.
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The hatchery near my house is one of the two being closed. The effect is supposed to be felt with fewer trout stocked statewide...sharing the pain supposedly. We'll see.
I'm not surprised that this has happened. Both hunting and fishing license sales have been declining for years. But this is only going to speed the Decline. Both the PA Game and Fish Commissions are self financed so there's no taxpayer bailout here.
Here's all of the PA hatcheries:
www.fishandboat.com/dir_sfh.htm
PA Game licenses have been stable, if not ticking back up:
www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=596054&mode=2
PA Fish licenses have been stagnant:
www.fishandboat.com/licsal2.htm
allegnmtn is right though; they are solely funded by hunters & anglers. The costs of doing business ain't cheap. As soon as the Fish guys increase the cost of license, they know they will lose 8-10% of anglers. There is talk of joining both Fish & Game like in all other 49 states, but it is not clear to me if it's the best way to go yet.
CL3, They are not solely funded from license sales this was discussed in detailed and was put in plain english by the state that they have financial problems and are closing them because they have to cut their budget and the state defunded them.
HARRISBURG — The Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission is closing two hatcheries and reducing the number of trout it stocks statewide by about 22 percent starting in 2015.
The agency’s board approved the cost-cutting move Wednesday.
The commission has to pare $9.1 million from its budget over the next four years, per orders of the governor’s office to absorb contractually mandated salary and health care and pension costs without increasing spending, said executive director John Arway.
Dcast: They are solely funded by license sales.
But, since they are a state agency, they were informed they must absorb those additional healthcare and pension costs. They do not, or cannot, pull from the General Fund, so they had to close hatcheries to make up for this added overhead because license sales are stagnant or dropping off.
www.fish.state.pa.us/newsreleases/2013press/annrpt-presented.htm
The annual report goes into the details of where the struggles come from. You get all of the details by reading the blue link "his remarks" PDF towards the beginning of the news release.
Thanks for the insight guys. Whatever the reason and whatever the ultimate outcome to trout fishing in NC PA, I know I'd rather pay more and get a better product (or at least sustain due to increasing costs) than keep the same cost and have services removed/decreased. That's just as bitter a pill to swallow. Of course, with all the drilling going in up there, the outdoor life in that region may change drastically in a lot of ways soon.
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The hatchery near my house is one of the two being closed. The effect is supposed to be felt with fewer trout stocked statewide...sharing the pain supposedly. We'll see.
I'm not surprised that this has happened. Both hunting and fishing license sales have been declining for years. But this is only going to speed the Decline. Both the PA Game and Fish Commissions are self financed so there's no taxpayer bailout here.
Dcast: They are solely funded by license sales.
But, since they are a state agency, they were informed they must absorb those additional healthcare and pension costs. They do not, or cannot, pull from the General Fund, so they had to close hatcheries to make up for this added overhead because license sales are stagnant or dropping off.
Thanks for the insight guys. Whatever the reason and whatever the ultimate outcome to trout fishing in NC PA, I know I'd rather pay more and get a better product (or at least sustain due to increasing costs) than keep the same cost and have services removed/decreased. That's just as bitter a pill to swallow. Of course, with all the drilling going in up there, the outdoor life in that region may change drastically in a lot of ways soon.
Here's all of the PA hatcheries:
www.fishandboat.com/dir_sfh.htm
PA Game licenses have been stable, if not ticking back up:
www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=596054&mode=2
PA Fish licenses have been stagnant:
www.fishandboat.com/licsal2.htm
allegnmtn is right though; they are solely funded by hunters & anglers. The costs of doing business ain't cheap. As soon as the Fish guys increase the cost of license, they know they will lose 8-10% of anglers. There is talk of joining both Fish & Game like in all other 49 states, but it is not clear to me if it's the best way to go yet.
CL3, They are not solely funded from license sales this was discussed in detailed and was put in plain english by the state that they have financial problems and are closing them because they have to cut their budget and the state defunded them.
HARRISBURG — The Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission is closing two hatcheries and reducing the number of trout it stocks statewide by about 22 percent starting in 2015.
The agency’s board approved the cost-cutting move Wednesday.
The commission has to pare $9.1 million from its budget over the next four years, per orders of the governor’s office to absorb contractually mandated salary and health care and pension costs without increasing spending, said executive director John Arway.
www.fish.state.pa.us/newsreleases/2013press/annrpt-presented.htm
The annual report goes into the details of where the struggles come from. You get all of the details by reading the blue link "his remarks" PDF towards the beginning of the news release.
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