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I am looking for a 14 ft jon boat, and i want something i can go in both the river and lakes, however the lakes i fish are extremely weedy, and the rivers i fish really shallow, i dont have the money ( or availibilty) to purchase a surface drive motor like a mud buddy, can i still use a jet drive in these lakes or what can i do?

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from fezzant wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

Never seen a jet drive for a john boat.

If money is an issue, I'd go with a decent trolling motor and a set of oars. Of course, that won't work if you need to cover a lot of distance.

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from Josh Giannino wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

jet drive outboards is what i meant by that,

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from Drover1 wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

For me, the beauty of a boat like that is you can use oars in shallow or weedy water.

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from Woods Walker wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

I also have a 14 foot John Boat and fish some relatively shallow, weedy areas - I use an electric motor as my primary motor for most lakes and shallow rivers - works fine! I should note that most of the small lakes around here prohibit gas motors so the decision is easier.

However, I find my push-pole to be of immense use for propelling the boat (as well as the oars). One day a northerly wind quickly arose and pushed me deep into the weeds on a shallow lake. My electric motor kept clogging up with the vegetation With my son on the oars and me pushing on the push-pole, we were finally just barely able to free ourselves into the face of the wind. I would not think of going out in the John Boat without the push-pole (carry it in my canoe as well).

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from redfishunter wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

I think you need a raised transom on the boat to really benefit from a jet drive. I have a 9.9 Yamaha two stroke on my 14 foot and it does great. If it hits something the motor just kicks up. Itll jump logs and all that good stuff. It Handles thick weeds ok as long as i take my time, but that's where the mud motors and go devils make such a big difference. Also, i only need about four inches of water. You should be able to find a reliable one around 1000. Can get em for cheaper too but be careful not tl get one thatll break down in the middle of nowhere Also be sure it's jot a long shaft.

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from redfishunter wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

I think you need a raised transom on the boat to really benefit from a jet drive. I have a 9.9 Yamaha two stroke on my 14 foot and it does great. If it hits something the motor just kicks up. Itll jump logs and all that good stuff. It Handles thick weeds ok as long as i take my time, but that's where the mud motors and go devils make such a big difference. Also, i only need about four inches of water. You should be able to find a reliable one around 1000. Can get em for cheaper too but be careful not tl get one thatll break down in the middle of nowhere Also be sure it's jot a long shaft.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

Unless you have a LOT of disposable income, I think you will not be pleased with a jet unit. Not at $3.50+ per gallon for fuel! Those things SUCK the gas!

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from RockySquirrel wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

I fish rivers a lot too and in the summer, water levels drop FAST.

If you balance your weight on the boat and get a good electric motor and short shaft outboard for the heavy lifting that you can tilt up (has a shallow running selection) you can get ALMOST as shallow as a jet boat. I can draft less than 8 inches in mine. I also keep some hip waders in the boat opportunities where i can't get the boat into.

I have also seen a transom raising thingie where you attach a socket wrench and you can dynamically raise and lower the motor.

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

I have a 14 ft. john boat, and a 40 hp Yamaho with a jetpump attatched. Very economical to run. And I run a big river, the SF of the Snake in it. Anchor system in the front so I can safely, and easily drop anchor, and a rowing system set up in the front so I sit on the front deck and row..But no runnin in the weeds! That is strictly rowin water! And forget about the tilting up with a prop motor unless you want to go through a lot of props, sheer pins, and ultimately a lower unit, and they ain't cheap! Being 6-7 miles from the nearest ramp, and your prop knocked out isn't any fun.

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

And mine is tillered. No helm wheel that takes up room, and isn't as positive turning. It maximizes my flyfishing room. I sit on a back seat, and run it from the back...one slick settup boat, and I run shallow water when the river drops. Right now I am running water coming out of the dam at 13,600 cfs, and it will drop to 1,000 cfs, or lower in the Fall, and no problem in either flow. And I also have a driftboat that I use a lot. If I had the boat for your weedy lake, and the lake wasn't all that big, I would have a 8-10ft pram that slips in the back of a pickup, and two anglers can lift it in and out. I had just that boat, and sold it when I moved to where I live now.

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from Woods Walker wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

I also have a 14 foot John Boat and fish some relatively shallow, weedy areas - I use an electric motor as my primary motor for most lakes and shallow rivers - works fine! I should note that most of the small lakes around here prohibit gas motors so the decision is easier.

However, I find my push-pole to be of immense use for propelling the boat (as well as the oars). One day a northerly wind quickly arose and pushed me deep into the weeds on a shallow lake. My electric motor kept clogging up with the vegetation With my son on the oars and me pushing on the push-pole, we were finally just barely able to free ourselves into the face of the wind. I would not think of going out in the John Boat without the push-pole (carry it in my canoe as well).

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

Unless you have a LOT of disposable income, I think you will not be pleased with a jet unit. Not at $3.50+ per gallon for fuel! Those things SUCK the gas!

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from redfishunter wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

I think you need a raised transom on the boat to really benefit from a jet drive. I have a 9.9 Yamaha two stroke on my 14 foot and it does great. If it hits something the motor just kicks up. Itll jump logs and all that good stuff. It Handles thick weeds ok as long as i take my time, but that's where the mud motors and go devils make such a big difference. Also, i only need about four inches of water. You should be able to find a reliable one around 1000. Can get em for cheaper too but be careful not tl get one thatll break down in the middle of nowhere Also be sure it's jot a long shaft.

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from RockySquirrel wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

I fish rivers a lot too and in the summer, water levels drop FAST.

If you balance your weight on the boat and get a good electric motor and short shaft outboard for the heavy lifting that you can tilt up (has a shallow running selection) you can get ALMOST as shallow as a jet boat. I can draft less than 8 inches in mine. I also keep some hip waders in the boat opportunities where i can't get the boat into.

I have also seen a transom raising thingie where you attach a socket wrench and you can dynamically raise and lower the motor.

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

I have a 14 ft. john boat, and a 40 hp Yamaho with a jetpump attatched. Very economical to run. And I run a big river, the SF of the Snake in it. Anchor system in the front so I can safely, and easily drop anchor, and a rowing system set up in the front so I sit on the front deck and row..But no runnin in the weeds! That is strictly rowin water! And forget about the tilting up with a prop motor unless you want to go through a lot of props, sheer pins, and ultimately a lower unit, and they ain't cheap! Being 6-7 miles from the nearest ramp, and your prop knocked out isn't any fun.

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from fezzant wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

Never seen a jet drive for a john boat.

If money is an issue, I'd go with a decent trolling motor and a set of oars. Of course, that won't work if you need to cover a lot of distance.

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from Josh Giannino wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

jet drive outboards is what i meant by that,

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from Drover1 wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

For me, the beauty of a boat like that is you can use oars in shallow or weedy water.

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from redfishunter wrote 1 year 41 weeks ago

I think you need a raised transom on the boat to really benefit from a jet drive. I have a 9.9 Yamaha two stroke on my 14 foot and it does great. If it hits something the motor just kicks up. Itll jump logs and all that good stuff. It Handles thick weeds ok as long as i take my time, but that's where the mud motors and go devils make such a big difference. Also, i only need about four inches of water. You should be able to find a reliable one around 1000. Can get em for cheaper too but be careful not tl get one thatll break down in the middle of nowhere Also be sure it's jot a long shaft.

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from Sayfu wrote 1 year 40 weeks ago

And mine is tillered. No helm wheel that takes up room, and isn't as positive turning. It maximizes my flyfishing room. I sit on a back seat, and run it from the back...one slick settup boat, and I run shallow water when the river drops. Right now I am running water coming out of the dam at 13,600 cfs, and it will drop to 1,000 cfs, or lower in the Fall, and no problem in either flow. And I also have a driftboat that I use a lot. If I had the boat for your weedy lake, and the lake wasn't all that big, I would have a 8-10ft pram that slips in the back of a pickup, and two anglers can lift it in and out. I had just that boat, and sold it when I moved to where I live now.

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