Q:
anyone ever reaload somethin a while ago and dont remember wat it was i did if i put the bullet on the end of barrel of 243 and it goes in will that pedict wether it is just regular 243win or 243 wssm or ackley
Question by hfedder40. Uploaded on February 16, 2011
Answers (34)
I find it scary that you are reloading based on the questions you ask in this forum. I don't mean that as a put down; I think you have some maturing to do.
To answer your question, ABSOLUTELY NO.
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
it was my dad who reloaded them
For once I am utterly speechless...........
This is unreal.
id say pull the bullet and start from scratch
OK?
See if I get this right?
Question:
You put the bullet on the end of barrel of 243 and it goes in?
Answer: If the rifle barrel is of 243 caliber or 6mm and you place a .243 diameter or 6mm bullet into the muzzle and falls though, you have a big problem!
I have witnessed seeing a rifle stamped with 7mm-08 and I can take a .284 bullet drop it in the muzzle and it would free fall straight through the chamber. Total rounds shot through the gun is less than 20 rounds since bought brand new. What happened is at the factory, someone grabbed a 30 cal blank and ran a 7mm-08 reamer into it.
What da hell......I don't know what to say.......
Go to these links and learn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.243_Winchester
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.243_WSSM
.243 Winchester Overall length = 2.7098 in
Base diameter = 0.471 in
.243 WSSM Overall length = 2.36 in
Base diameter 0.555 in
Kid, there's a reason that the cartridge heads are marked, just sayin....... Is there anyone who can enlighten the troll, because I am utterly lost for words.
From a little web research; apparently the .243 Ackley Improved has a different shoulder angle (40 degrees) than the .243 Winchester (20 degrees). It looks like .243 Winchester cases can be fire-formed to make the .243 AI. Someone please correct me if this information is wrong.
TRULY FRIGHTENING. TRULY FRIGHTENING
O'HOUSTON!
Do you live under a ROCK! near the GIECO sign????
I think those reloading storage boxes have a space on them for a label.
I'll take a shot... If you or your dad reloaded a cartridge and you don't remember the powder charge or size of bullet, the easiest thing to do is to pull the bullet. If you are careful, you will be able to weigh the powder charge and the bullet. It is pretty risky to attempt to determine the bullet caliber by sticking it in a barrel because some are pretty close to the same size and the rifling on barrels varies somewhat. You can use the case dimentions and head stamp to determine what type of cartridge it is (e.g. .243 or 6MM Rem). If you aren't positive, it is best to destroy the cartridge so that you don't accidentally use it in the wrong rifle. Reloading is a pretty scientific discipline and if you aren't scientific about it, it would be best to just buy factory ammo until you learn all about it. I suggest reading your dad's reloading manual for starters and you will learn a lot about reloading and shooting in the process. Good luck!
Go somewhere deep in the woods and dig a hole 4 feet deep and 1 foot wide and dump all of the shells that you are asking about in the hole. Cover the hole with dirt tamping every foot of the way. When you are done place limbs over the spot and lay a rock on the spot so noone might find out where they are. This may cause someone including yourself from getting hurt or killed. Good luck. Find someone that is knowledgable about reloading and start over and learn the proper way and you will enjoy the reloading process if done the proper way.
Don't handle firearms ever again and stop posting. There's your answer.
Holy smokes!!!! Ditto to all of the above, and this is a prime example of why one should keep meticulous and detailed reloading records.
Bullet pullers are inexpensive and this is the time to use it. Once that's done you can figure out what you have for brass.
Scares me how this thread is going to play out.
I never thought I would use this but... OMG!
Follow Sarges advice down to the last fraction.
Then find a mentor who understands reloading thoroughly and learn.
hey shut up id bet neither of u could tell between a custom case in 243 or 6mm lets see theres the 243 win 243 wssm 6mm br 6mm hart
hfedder, you've got to be kidding. Anyone that reloads has a means of measuring case dimensions and can identify no matter what's on the headstamp. If these guys didn't care they wouldn't be giving you safety advice. Afterall, you're the one that asked for opinions so don't be upset if you get some you don't like.
My suggestion is to not use unknown handloaded ammo. You have no idea what the charge is and it could produce too high of pressures. Saving a few dollars is not worth an injury.
hfedder40-
You are a danger to yourself, and others. I might add, you are a very ignorant and rude young person. Anyone with a minimum of rifle shooting skill and knowlege can tell the difference between a .243 Win and a 6 mm Rem, and a .243 Win Short Fat in the dark. Learn from this forum instead of telling posters to "shut up."
hfedder40,
Young man you have a lot to learn and manners is a good place to start. If you can't handle critism then don't don't ask for it. All any of us here is trying to do is trying to keep you from blowing yourself up and maybe killing yourself because apparantly you don't know how dangerous what you are asking can be. I would suggest you calm yourself down and take the advice of the posts you have gotten and put them to use. You are too young to go through life blowing your fingers or hands off or putting your eyes out from an exploding shell. If we didn't care about your welfare we wouldn't have answered your post. My advicd still stands. Throw the stuff away and find an experienced reloader and get started off on the right foot so you can enjoy a long and productive reloading life. Don't get mad just take the advice and use it. It may save you a lot of headaches in the future.
sorry for my language but you got to be F$ckin kidding me. kid, were trying to save your life heere. if you cant handle the truth so be it. you can stirit up but you cant take it. and no one gives a hoot in hell if your parents are part of hart barrels. get your snobby ignorants self off this forum
Grow up, little boy, and learn to respect your elders, and in this case, your betters.
no bullet sshould fall through the barrle of a rifle of same caliber, bullet is slightly larger than the bore, thats why it digs into the rifling of the barrel.
i think shane might of taken it a little to far, there is a reason he asked and didnt just try it
ur not even cllose to my being my elders
Sorry, your spelling and grammar is responsible for my mistake. Kids........................
hFEDER, IF ALL YOUR GONNA DO IS GIVE US BAD GRAMMAR AND BULLSHIT ON HOW YOUR UNCLE WORKS AT HART BARRELS, have some respect and mature a bit, YOU MIGHT NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, OR MAYBE YOU DONT CUZ YOUR JUST GONNA BLOW YOURSELF UP ANYWAYS BY RELOADING!!!!!!
@ hfedder40- My 2 cents: As a fairly new reloader myself, some af the best advice I got early on was to start a reloading log. In under 2 years, I've filled up probably 20 pages (and I write small) with notes on quantity and type of bullets reloaded, c.o.a.l., charge weights, types of primers, types of powders, group sizes, chronograph data, pressure signs, brass type and condition (new, once fired, etc.), dates of loads completed, and so on. It's a meticulous enterprise, and only those who take a scientific mind into it ought to dabble. And by dabble, I mean GO BY THE BOOK. And by the book, I mean the reloading manual. And have two at least. Your manual(s) will tell you, along with your caliper, which case you've loaded. So you can throw it away and start over.
Please, do not jam one in the chamber to see if it works. Because it might not work in your favor. Or your rifle's.
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I find it scary that you are reloading based on the questions you ask in this forum. I don't mean that as a put down; I think you have some maturing to do.
To answer your question, ABSOLUTELY NO.
HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM!
This is unreal.
Go somewhere deep in the woods and dig a hole 4 feet deep and 1 foot wide and dump all of the shells that you are asking about in the hole. Cover the hole with dirt tamping every foot of the way. When you are done place limbs over the spot and lay a rock on the spot so noone might find out where they are. This may cause someone including yourself from getting hurt or killed. Good luck. Find someone that is knowledgable about reloading and start over and learn the proper way and you will enjoy the reloading process if done the proper way.
Don't handle firearms ever again and stop posting. There's your answer.
hfedder40,
Young man you have a lot to learn and manners is a good place to start. If you can't handle critism then don't don't ask for it. All any of us here is trying to do is trying to keep you from blowing yourself up and maybe killing yourself because apparantly you don't know how dangerous what you are asking can be. I would suggest you calm yourself down and take the advice of the posts you have gotten and put them to use. You are too young to go through life blowing your fingers or hands off or putting your eyes out from an exploding shell. If we didn't care about your welfare we wouldn't have answered your post. My advicd still stands. Throw the stuff away and find an experienced reloader and get started off on the right foot so you can enjoy a long and productive reloading life. Don't get mad just take the advice and use it. It may save you a lot of headaches in the future.
For once I am utterly speechless...........
Kid, there's a reason that the cartridge heads are marked, just sayin....... Is there anyone who can enlighten the troll, because I am utterly lost for words.
Do you live under a ROCK! near the GIECO sign????
I'll take a shot... If you or your dad reloaded a cartridge and you don't remember the powder charge or size of bullet, the easiest thing to do is to pull the bullet. If you are careful, you will be able to weigh the powder charge and the bullet. It is pretty risky to attempt to determine the bullet caliber by sticking it in a barrel because some are pretty close to the same size and the rifling on barrels varies somewhat. You can use the case dimentions and head stamp to determine what type of cartridge it is (e.g. .243 or 6MM Rem). If you aren't positive, it is best to destroy the cartridge so that you don't accidentally use it in the wrong rifle. Reloading is a pretty scientific discipline and if you aren't scientific about it, it would be best to just buy factory ammo until you learn all about it. I suggest reading your dad's reloading manual for starters and you will learn a lot about reloading and shooting in the process. Good luck!
hfedder, you've got to be kidding. Anyone that reloads has a means of measuring case dimensions and can identify no matter what's on the headstamp. If these guys didn't care they wouldn't be giving you safety advice. Afterall, you're the one that asked for opinions so don't be upset if you get some you don't like.
My suggestion is to not use unknown handloaded ammo. You have no idea what the charge is and it could produce too high of pressures. Saving a few dollars is not worth an injury.
hfedder40-
You are a danger to yourself, and others. I might add, you are a very ignorant and rude young person. Anyone with a minimum of rifle shooting skill and knowlege can tell the difference between a .243 Win and a 6 mm Rem, and a .243 Win Short Fat in the dark. Learn from this forum instead of telling posters to "shut up."
id say pull the bullet and start from scratch
OK?
See if I get this right?
Question:
You put the bullet on the end of barrel of 243 and it goes in?
Answer: If the rifle barrel is of 243 caliber or 6mm and you place a .243 diameter or 6mm bullet into the muzzle and falls though, you have a big problem!
I have witnessed seeing a rifle stamped with 7mm-08 and I can take a .284 bullet drop it in the muzzle and it would free fall straight through the chamber. Total rounds shot through the gun is less than 20 rounds since bought brand new. What happened is at the factory, someone grabbed a 30 cal blank and ran a 7mm-08 reamer into it.
What da hell......I don't know what to say.......
Go to these links and learn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.243_Winchester
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.243_WSSM
.243 Winchester Overall length = 2.7098 in
Base diameter = 0.471 in
.243 WSSM Overall length = 2.36 in
Base diameter 0.555 in
From a little web research; apparently the .243 Ackley Improved has a different shoulder angle (40 degrees) than the .243 Winchester (20 degrees). It looks like .243 Winchester cases can be fire-formed to make the .243 AI. Someone please correct me if this information is wrong.
TRULY FRIGHTENING. TRULY FRIGHTENING
O'HOUSTON!
I think those reloading storage boxes have a space on them for a label.
Holy smokes!!!! Ditto to all of the above, and this is a prime example of why one should keep meticulous and detailed reloading records.
I never thought I would use this but... OMG!
Follow Sarges advice down to the last fraction.
Then find a mentor who understands reloading thoroughly and learn.
sorry for my language but you got to be F$ckin kidding me. kid, were trying to save your life heere. if you cant handle the truth so be it. you can stirit up but you cant take it. and no one gives a hoot in hell if your parents are part of hart barrels. get your snobby ignorants self off this forum
it was my dad who reloaded them
Bullet pullers are inexpensive and this is the time to use it. Once that's done you can figure out what you have for brass.
Scares me how this thread is going to play out.
Grow up, little boy, and learn to respect your elders, and in this case, your betters.
no bullet sshould fall through the barrle of a rifle of same caliber, bullet is slightly larger than the bore, thats why it digs into the rifling of the barrel.
Sorry, your spelling and grammar is responsible for my mistake. Kids........................
hFEDER, IF ALL YOUR GONNA DO IS GIVE US BAD GRAMMAR AND BULLSHIT ON HOW YOUR UNCLE WORKS AT HART BARRELS, have some respect and mature a bit, YOU MIGHT NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, OR MAYBE YOU DONT CUZ YOUR JUST GONNA BLOW YOURSELF UP ANYWAYS BY RELOADING!!!!!!
@ hfedder40- My 2 cents: As a fairly new reloader myself, some af the best advice I got early on was to start a reloading log. In under 2 years, I've filled up probably 20 pages (and I write small) with notes on quantity and type of bullets reloaded, c.o.a.l., charge weights, types of primers, types of powders, group sizes, chronograph data, pressure signs, brass type and condition (new, once fired, etc.), dates of loads completed, and so on. It's a meticulous enterprise, and only those who take a scientific mind into it ought to dabble. And by dabble, I mean GO BY THE BOOK. And by the book, I mean the reloading manual. And have two at least. Your manual(s) will tell you, along with your caliper, which case you've loaded. So you can throw it away and start over.
Please, do not jam one in the chamber to see if it works. Because it might not work in your favor. Or your rifle's.
i think shane might of taken it a little to far, there is a reason he asked and didnt just try it
ur not even cllose to my being my elders
hey shut up id bet neither of u could tell between a custom case in 243 or 6mm lets see theres the 243 win 243 wssm 6mm br 6mm hart
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