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They had there Run, Time to move on! JMO.
I have been shooting a 300WSM since they came out probably about 15 years now and I had nothing but outstanding results from the round. I reload everything that I shoot so the cost is less than the 300 Win Mag. Now I have a Sako A7 300WSM and with a Simms Limb Saver recoil pad on it the recoil is not an issue and I'm recoil senitive. The accuracy is unbelievable. With 165 Nosler Accubonds it will shoot 1/2 inch groups. I am sure that the 300WSM is here to stay and maybe the 270WSM but the rest are history. I think that they get their accuracy from the old PPC round principal of the short fat round if you remember them from past target shooting days. I see alot of the 300WSM's around and the owners have nothing but good things to say about them. I will always have a 300WSM to hunt with.
I just bought a .300 WSM and I love it. It actually has a slightly better ballistic than the .300 Win mag, and I can put it in a dime size group at 100 yrds.
I like their older long cousins, but that's just me. The short fats reduce magazine capacity in many rifles. JMO
I own a Tikka T3 in .300 WSM and I enjoy it, especially now that I have installed a Limbsaver recoil pad as Sarge did on his A7. I get good accuracy from the round. The .300 WSM slightly betters the velocity of the old .300 H&H round. The .300 Winchester will slightly better the .300 WSM on any day velocity wise and is a better choice when shooting projectiles heavier than 180 grains.
As WAM said in cetain rifles the fat case does limit capacity. Savage short action models are limited the most. My Tikka holds 3 in the magazine and that is pretty much standard.
My Elk/deer load in my Tikka is a 168 grain Barnes TTSX over Reloader 17 with a Federal 215 primer. It delivers an honest 3150 fps 10 feet from the muzzle as recorded by a Chrony. If you reload the .300 WSM and have not tried RL 17 you should. It does give a velocity gain in the short fat case without pressure problems.
They were the salvation of Winchester when they were facing economic ruin. This was a case of re-inventing the wheel being a great marketing ploy. Just about every successful caliber that could be invented had been, so they just re-invented them and put them into smaller packages. The result was a new line of ammunition and the firearms chambered to fire them for a customer base that had to have the newest gadget, and the WSM fad saved a faltering major manufacturer from bankruptcy. However, in reality they do not fill a niche that had not already been effectively served by the existing long action calibrations. But, different strokes for different folks.
I have only used the 300 WSM, owning one which I have used extensively. Additionally, own three 300 long Win Mags hunting all over the world with them. Have found the latter caliber to utilize the heavier bullets more efficiently. Both rounds are accurate...However, rarely take the short version hunting anymore.
Might add, if your ammo does not show up in a far away place, you can always find 300 Win Mag cartridges. Just like 30/06.
The short magnum cases seem to burn the propellants more efficiently, but the down side is the hazard of planned obsolescence. Ammo availability could be a problem for owners of some of the short magnum calibers.
Let us not forget that there is a settlement areement with Mr. Jaimison that pays him 5% of all WSM sales. This is not a lawsuit due to a court trial, but a settlement made by USRAC and any other manufacturer that chambers the WSM's. Regardless of sales, or even the 5% premium seen on the WSM's for a short time, I don't think manufacturers want to give Mr. Jaimison a dime under these circimstances. I don't blame him for his actions, for it was Winchester that stepped out of line. It's just too bad that it was teammates that did some damage to the whole industry.
(copy and paste, but I think its 100% legitimate)
Since I haven't shot a factory load for over 30 years the availability of ammo isn't a concern of mine. I always have a plentiful supply of ammo for every one of my rifles. I think that right now I have 300 rounds of 300WSM loaded up. That should do me, my son, and my grandson. Also I shoot a .257 Weatherby and load all of them too so the high cost of Weatherby ammo dosesn't concern me either. That is one of the advantages of reloading your own ammo.
They're good cartridges in general and I think the popular calibers (.300 WSM, .300 RSAUM, 7mm WSM) are here for good. i really wouldn't worry about ammo disappearing for them. As for the oddballs (.223 WSSM etc) I think they'll have a harder time keeping their place on the ammo shelves of stores.
I've not seen any evidence that they will out perform their longer cousins (from everything I've seen the .300 Win. Mag still has higher velocities than the .300 WSM in the the reloading manuals) and their short, fat case design resembles the most popular 100 and 200 yard bench rest cartridges. You get better, more consistent ignition with these types of cartridges. In fact the new 1000 yard bench rest 10 shot record was fired with a .300 WSM and a 210 Berger VLD. The group was under three inches....
i shoot a .270 wsm, i enjoy it, good deer rifle. the shorter fatter cartridge is supposed to burn powder more efficiently and more consistently providing better accuracy them your standard long skinny cartridge.
I like them and think the better ones will stay around. I don't own one though and probably never will. I do own a .300 Dakota which is a short fat .300 RUM and have been elated with that. I would not worry about running out of ammo because I don't buy factory ammo either. I can make my own if I need to from the parent cases.
They do get a great powder burn and are lower on recoil which doesn't hurt. I generally favor the long version of most of these.
I own a 300suam and it shoots very good, and I also reload so ammo is no problem for me.
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They had there Run, Time to move on! JMO.
They were the salvation of Winchester when they were facing economic ruin. This was a case of re-inventing the wheel being a great marketing ploy. Just about every successful caliber that could be invented had been, so they just re-invented them and put them into smaller packages. The result was a new line of ammunition and the firearms chambered to fire them for a customer base that had to have the newest gadget, and the WSM fad saved a faltering major manufacturer from bankruptcy. However, in reality they do not fill a niche that had not already been effectively served by the existing long action calibrations. But, different strokes for different folks.
I have been shooting a 300WSM since they came out probably about 15 years now and I had nothing but outstanding results from the round. I reload everything that I shoot so the cost is less than the 300 Win Mag. Now I have a Sako A7 300WSM and with a Simms Limb Saver recoil pad on it the recoil is not an issue and I'm recoil senitive. The accuracy is unbelievable. With 165 Nosler Accubonds it will shoot 1/2 inch groups. I am sure that the 300WSM is here to stay and maybe the 270WSM but the rest are history. I think that they get their accuracy from the old PPC round principal of the short fat round if you remember them from past target shooting days. I see alot of the 300WSM's around and the owners have nothing but good things to say about them. I will always have a 300WSM to hunt with.
I just bought a .300 WSM and I love it. It actually has a slightly better ballistic than the .300 Win mag, and I can put it in a dime size group at 100 yrds.
I like their older long cousins, but that's just me. The short fats reduce magazine capacity in many rifles. JMO
I have only used the 300 WSM, owning one which I have used extensively. Additionally, own three 300 long Win Mags hunting all over the world with them. Have found the latter caliber to utilize the heavier bullets more efficiently. Both rounds are accurate...However, rarely take the short version hunting anymore.
Might add, if your ammo does not show up in a far away place, you can always find 300 Win Mag cartridges. Just like 30/06.
The short magnum cases seem to burn the propellants more efficiently, but the down side is the hazard of planned obsolescence. Ammo availability could be a problem for owners of some of the short magnum calibers.
They're good cartridges in general and I think the popular calibers (.300 WSM, .300 RSAUM, 7mm WSM) are here for good. i really wouldn't worry about ammo disappearing for them. As for the oddballs (.223 WSSM etc) I think they'll have a harder time keeping their place on the ammo shelves of stores.
I've not seen any evidence that they will out perform their longer cousins (from everything I've seen the .300 Win. Mag still has higher velocities than the .300 WSM in the the reloading manuals) and their short, fat case design resembles the most popular 100 and 200 yard bench rest cartridges. You get better, more consistent ignition with these types of cartridges. In fact the new 1000 yard bench rest 10 shot record was fired with a .300 WSM and a 210 Berger VLD. The group was under three inches....
I own a Tikka T3 in .300 WSM and I enjoy it, especially now that I have installed a Limbsaver recoil pad as Sarge did on his A7. I get good accuracy from the round. The .300 WSM slightly betters the velocity of the old .300 H&H round. The .300 Winchester will slightly better the .300 WSM on any day velocity wise and is a better choice when shooting projectiles heavier than 180 grains.
As WAM said in cetain rifles the fat case does limit capacity. Savage short action models are limited the most. My Tikka holds 3 in the magazine and that is pretty much standard.
My Elk/deer load in my Tikka is a 168 grain Barnes TTSX over Reloader 17 with a Federal 215 primer. It delivers an honest 3150 fps 10 feet from the muzzle as recorded by a Chrony. If you reload the .300 WSM and have not tried RL 17 you should. It does give a velocity gain in the short fat case without pressure problems.
Let us not forget that there is a settlement areement with Mr. Jaimison that pays him 5% of all WSM sales. This is not a lawsuit due to a court trial, but a settlement made by USRAC and any other manufacturer that chambers the WSM's. Regardless of sales, or even the 5% premium seen on the WSM's for a short time, I don't think manufacturers want to give Mr. Jaimison a dime under these circimstances. I don't blame him for his actions, for it was Winchester that stepped out of line. It's just too bad that it was teammates that did some damage to the whole industry.
(copy and paste, but I think its 100% legitimate)
Since I haven't shot a factory load for over 30 years the availability of ammo isn't a concern of mine. I always have a plentiful supply of ammo for every one of my rifles. I think that right now I have 300 rounds of 300WSM loaded up. That should do me, my son, and my grandson. Also I shoot a .257 Weatherby and load all of them too so the high cost of Weatherby ammo dosesn't concern me either. That is one of the advantages of reloading your own ammo.
i shoot a .270 wsm, i enjoy it, good deer rifle. the shorter fatter cartridge is supposed to burn powder more efficiently and more consistently providing better accuracy them your standard long skinny cartridge.
I like them and think the better ones will stay around. I don't own one though and probably never will. I do own a .300 Dakota which is a short fat .300 RUM and have been elated with that. I would not worry about running out of ammo because I don't buy factory ammo either. I can make my own if I need to from the parent cases.
They do get a great powder burn and are lower on recoil which doesn't hurt. I generally favor the long version of most of these.
I own a 300suam and it shoots very good, and I also reload so ammo is no problem for me.
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