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Recoil! What's the worst recoiling firearm you've had the unfortunate pleasure of firing. My good friend just purchased a new Remington 700 in 7mm-08 and he called one evening saying it was beating the snot out of him. I shot it later in the week and the thing does beat the tar out of you! It kicked more than his .300 Win. Mag. It's not an "ultra Light" rifle, and weighs about 7.5 lbs with scope and has a limbsaver on it, but after two shots, I had no desire to shoot it again.
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.375 H&H Magnum in a Winchester Model 70. I would not care to shoot anything having greater recoil, for fear of a suffering a detached retina.
Hang on here, BigBboy25. I thought you were the big long range magnum shooting advocate here? And you let a little 7mm-08 rattle your cage? LMAO as the truth comes out!
12 gauge slug usually does not feel to good...
For the masochists out there try a 91/30 Mosin-Nagant with the 204 grain with a steel penetrator
Those danged little 7mms do have a FAST recoil; especially in an ultralight rifle. They are irritating to me for that reason too. I also think a .270 is irritating for the same reason. I really don't mind the bigger, slower recoiling rounds like my 11 pound .375 H&H and my 12 pound .300 Dakota. They move you backwards with a push but they don't cross your eyes like those rounds above. That is why I use a 25-06 for deer, antelope, varmints, etc. The WORST for me was when I shot a light single shot 3 1/2 inch 10 gauge with hot reloads. I still have quite a scar on my hand where the hammer went through it on one shot. That thing used to plaster me against the back of the goose blind. I finally shot a 50BMG a few weeks ago and even that was not as bad a feeling as a light weight 7mm mag but it weighed 15 pounds and had a muzzle break.
I don't have a wide experience with lots and lots of guns, but I will say that my 12ga. 3 1/2 in. mag. turkey gun (Mossberg 835) really gets my attention when I pattern it---doesn't bother me shooting at a gobbler unless I'm contorted around and have to shoot it off my bicep.
I don't remember the rifle models, but I have been stung badly by .308's when sighting them in for friends on two different occasions. They were so bad, they dang near started me flinching and I was glad to be through with them---they had a really sharp recoil.
I have a 7mm Rem Mag in a Rem. 700 that is much like DakotaMan describes in that it's more of a push than a kick, and when I put a mercury recoil reducer in the stock and Limbsaver on the butt, it calmed it right on down. Haven't had the problem with the .270 in my Win. Mod. 70, but it isn't a light gun.
The 7mm-08 that I have in Savage Model 11 isn't gentle, but it hasn't stung me yet. A friend was watching me sight it in and commented that the recoil he observed was more than he would have expected from that cartridge.
Big, I was faced once with a decision on which Rem 700 to purchase. Both at Scheels, both priced right and both in very sanitary condition, both scoped.
I chose the .30-06 over the 7mm-08 although the 7mm seemed to have only 5 or 6 rounds put through it as it was brand spanking new. I remember the initial sting and the 2 week pain following the discharge of a friend's 700 7mm-08 every time I swung a hammer at work.
The same rifle was still for sale a month later. The word is out...
Anybody remember the video that was posted about a year ago. Man that was funny, people were litterley getting kicked back and falling down! Can't recall what type it was sure somebody remembers what I talking about.
Doesn't Beekeeper's wife shoot a small light rifle in 7-08?
Kyle, that was the 577 T-Rex.
I had a Browning BPS 10 ga with tupperware stock that was absolutely brutel with turkey loads. One shot was anyone could handle.
Mine would be a 12 ga with 3" slugs
12 gauge 3 1/2.
I once shot a .458 Win. mag. with a steel butt plate. Note that I said "once". I've never shot a .270 that didn't have excessive recoil, and shot a friend's .300 mag. that brought tears to both our eyes. Neither my .375 H&H Mag. nor my .338 Win. mag. are as brutal in the recoil as some .270s I have shot.
My 500 Jeffery. A few rounds at the bench with that pup and you really start to hear footsteps behind you
I agree with crm3006. Jack O'Connor used to describe the recoil of the .270 as "moderate" and "mild." I've always felt that its recoil was rather sharp and abrupt in comparison to the .30-06.
I'm afraid there are still too many gun-writers who are unwilling to admit that they are even a bit recoil-conscious, much less recoil-sensitive.
This makes me feel better. A .270's been giving me the devil, even though I don't mind 12s, and it had been eating at me.
I've shot every caliber off the bench all the way up to 460 Weatherby Magnum, and a 3 1/2 12gauge just kicks the crap out of me!
Of most all of the firearms that I have shot over the last 50 years and there have been many I think the 270 kicks me worse than any other firearm. My 300 Win Mag. and my 300 WSM dosen't even kick like the 270. I had one once upon a time and I have always said I would rather have a sister in the wh### house than a brother that owns a 270. I used to shoot a 280 all the time and the recoil was not even close to the 270. I think that there are certain oddities about certain firearms that make them recoil worse than others. I'm not intelligent enough to explain it but I suspect there is something there.
My Rem 700 7mm mag has some serious thump going on, makes shooting my 270 or 270 WSM a pleasure!
Wa Hunter, agree. Ain't no seven and a half pound rifle going to kick the 'snot' out of you much less be worse than a 300 win mag.
Come on young boys stay off here or talk intelligent.
70-08 is a good deer rifle but it ain't crap for kick.
I own both 270s and 7mags and to me 270 kicks like a mule where~as the 7mag kicks like 2 mules LOL
Savage 24F with 12 gauge with 3" slugs.
For handguns, a Ruger Super Redhawk .454 Casull. It would punish the web of my shooting hand. The Freedom Arms 83 .454 Cas was a joy to shoot after that. Difference was how double actions and single actions react to recoil.
Mossberg 935 shooting 3.5 inch number 5 turkey load with ultra full choke. Kicks worse than buckshot. I read an article that F&S put out that said turkey load kicks a lot worse than buckshot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4juEIK_zRM
My buddy's 460 Weatherby.
The nastiest was a 308 in that old WinLite that weighted about 5 lbs. w/steel butt plate.
A .340 Weatherby Mag out of a lightweight Remington 700 rifle..It is worse than any 12 gauge that I ever fired!!!
I will give your friend $150 sight unseen for that terrible kicking 7mm-08 model 700. It is just physics and you will have a hard time convincing me that a 7 & 1/2 pound rifle of less than .338 win mag is a hard kicker. Poor stock design and fitting cause more felt recoil than the reality of it. I can't honestly say that I never even feel the recoil while firing at an animal when hunting. Some of the light 12 gauge side by sides will kick the snot out of you if you are expecting it but if you are firing at a rising rooster you don't even know it. You get home and get undressed to get in bed and there is a bruise from your chest clear out to your bicep. Is that enough to make you not go the next day? Never!
The 7mm-08 and the.243Win kick the same! I shoot a Ruger compck 7mm-08 H/LMag139gr sst. you want kick shoot a 6.5Rem MAG in a Rem-M600!
I shot a 10 gauge single shot one time that crossed my eyes pretty good. Never again will I shoot a 3 1/2 inch magnum in any shotgun. Way too much power for a light gun.
For me it was my old 8mm Mauser. I think the steel buttplate had a lot to do with it. My .30-06 isn't so bad if I hold the front down a bit.
I am not surprised to hear that your Remington was unpleasant to shoot. The best rifle that I ever shot was a Winchester Model 70, the second best was a Ruger M-77. The absolute worst rifle that I ever shot was a Remington. The Ruger and the Remington were the same caliber, 7mm Mag, so the cartridge wasn't to blame. I believe that for some reason Remingtons do not fit some people and when it came time to buy a new rifle, it wasn't a Remington.
My Remington 700 .35 Whelen with a walnut BDL stock and scope weighs spot on 8 pounds or so. With 225 grain loads the recoil is not mild, but is very tolerable. My mark V 7mm Weatherby Magnum at 9 pounds doesn't shoot much harder. The worst POS I ever owned was a Winchester 70 in .338 Win mag with synthetic stock. Felt recoil was horrendous.
I cannot imagine a 7mm-08 that weighs 7.5 pounds being too hard kicking. My .308 Win M700 ADL weighs about 7.5 pounds and shoot pretty easy.
I feel the 3" slugs in a 12 ga and the 45-70 kick much harder than either of my 30-06s.
WA:
Haha I do feel a bit like a wimp saying a short actioned 7mm-08 was the worst recoil I've endured. I've shot 7mm Rem Mag's, .300 Win. Mags. .338 Lapua's, .338 Ultra Mags, a .50 Cal. a few times, plenty of 12 gauge rounds, but nothing made me flinch like that little 7mm. He's putting a mercury recoil reducer in the stock to see if that helps some. I don't know what it is about that little rifle but it just hits you hard in the cheek and the shoulder.
With my .300, you can watch your bullets impact at 300+ yards and at 600 yards, you can begin to watch your own bullet trace through the scope as the rifle has settled down enough to do so. It's kind of fun to be able to do that and being able to see your own trace is a great asset when shooting long range. No other rifle I own can I see that. Keep in mind my .300 weighs 14.5 lbs and is equipped with a great muzzle brake, which surprisingly isn't "knock your hat off" loud. I always wear hearing protection and I have a thread protector for it when hunting season comes around, so I can take it off and not blow my ear drums. I shoot the brake during practice as to not get fatigued and for hunting I take it off, you never seem to really notice recoil when hunting anyway.
I went out back and fired 3 test loads in my 7mm Weatherby Magnum tonight and was not bothered in the least by the recoil. It's no cupcake with 72 grains of powder pushing 150 grain bullets, but no monster either. My buddy's 14 year old daughter that is not even 5 feet tall and weighs less than 100 pounds soaking wet with a bar of Ivory soap in her pocket handles a Remington Model 7 in 7mm-08 without complaint. I don't know what to make of your situation.
The worst recoiling gun I have ever shot was a Ruger #3 in 45/70 with some red-hot handloads. Remember the #3 has a butt PLATE - not a recoil pad.
The worst recoiling thing I ever owned was a Marlin 1895, again in 45/70. Factory loads aren't so bad, but a stiff handload will punish you. I now have a .375 Ruger now and it is much more enjoyable to shoot. There's something to the combination of stock design, barrel length, and recoil impulse & speed that makes some things seem tame in comparison - even though my .375 has way more energy than the Marlin with handloads load ever did.
My 'setting off an M-80 in your hand award' goes to a friend of mine with his .375 JDJ Contender. No mas. Nuff.
A ruger #1 in .416 rigby was the worst. I was about 10 years old at the time. The range officers sure got a laugh out of that one.
It would be a toss up between a BPS 10 gauge with goose loads and a .416 Rigby from a Ruger No. 1.
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The 7mm-08 and the.243Win kick the same! I shoot a Ruger compck 7mm-08 H/LMag139gr sst. you want kick shoot a 6.5Rem MAG in a Rem-M600!
I don't have a wide experience with lots and lots of guns, but I will say that my 12ga. 3 1/2 in. mag. turkey gun (Mossberg 835) really gets my attention when I pattern it---doesn't bother me shooting at a gobbler unless I'm contorted around and have to shoot it off my bicep.
I don't remember the rifle models, but I have been stung badly by .308's when sighting them in for friends on two different occasions. They were so bad, they dang near started me flinching and I was glad to be through with them---they had a really sharp recoil.
I have a 7mm Rem Mag in a Rem. 700 that is much like DakotaMan describes in that it's more of a push than a kick, and when I put a mercury recoil reducer in the stock and Limbsaver on the butt, it calmed it right on down. Haven't had the problem with the .270 in my Win. Mod. 70, but it isn't a light gun.
The 7mm-08 that I have in Savage Model 11 isn't gentle, but it hasn't stung me yet. A friend was watching me sight it in and commented that the recoil he observed was more than he would have expected from that cartridge.
I once shot a .458 Win. mag. with a steel butt plate. Note that I said "once". I've never shot a .270 that didn't have excessive recoil, and shot a friend's .300 mag. that brought tears to both our eyes. Neither my .375 H&H Mag. nor my .338 Win. mag. are as brutal in the recoil as some .270s I have shot.
I agree with crm3006. Jack O'Connor used to describe the recoil of the .270 as "moderate" and "mild." I've always felt that its recoil was rather sharp and abrupt in comparison to the .30-06.
I'm afraid there are still too many gun-writers who are unwilling to admit that they are even a bit recoil-conscious, much less recoil-sensitive.
I've shot every caliber off the bench all the way up to 460 Weatherby Magnum, and a 3 1/2 12gauge just kicks the crap out of me!
My Rem 700 7mm mag has some serious thump going on, makes shooting my 270 or 270 WSM a pleasure!
Wa Hunter, agree. Ain't no seven and a half pound rifle going to kick the 'snot' out of you much less be worse than a 300 win mag.
Come on young boys stay off here or talk intelligent.
70-08 is a good deer rifle but it ain't crap for kick.
.375 H&H Magnum in a Winchester Model 70. I would not care to shoot anything having greater recoil, for fear of a suffering a detached retina.
Hang on here, BigBboy25. I thought you were the big long range magnum shooting advocate here? And you let a little 7mm-08 rattle your cage? LMAO as the truth comes out!
12 gauge slug usually does not feel to good...
Those danged little 7mms do have a FAST recoil; especially in an ultralight rifle. They are irritating to me for that reason too. I also think a .270 is irritating for the same reason. I really don't mind the bigger, slower recoiling rounds like my 11 pound .375 H&H and my 12 pound .300 Dakota. They move you backwards with a push but they don't cross your eyes like those rounds above. That is why I use a 25-06 for deer, antelope, varmints, etc. The WORST for me was when I shot a light single shot 3 1/2 inch 10 gauge with hot reloads. I still have quite a scar on my hand where the hammer went through it on one shot. That thing used to plaster me against the back of the goose blind. I finally shot a 50BMG a few weeks ago and even that was not as bad a feeling as a light weight 7mm mag but it weighed 15 pounds and had a muzzle break.
Doesn't Beekeeper's wife shoot a small light rifle in 7-08?
Kyle, that was the 577 T-Rex.
I had a Browning BPS 10 ga with tupperware stock that was absolutely brutel with turkey loads. One shot was anyone could handle.
Mine would be a 12 ga with 3" slugs
12 gauge 3 1/2.
This makes me feel better. A .270's been giving me the devil, even though I don't mind 12s, and it had been eating at me.
Of most all of the firearms that I have shot over the last 50 years and there have been many I think the 270 kicks me worse than any other firearm. My 300 Win Mag. and my 300 WSM dosen't even kick like the 270. I had one once upon a time and I have always said I would rather have a sister in the wh### house than a brother that owns a 270. I used to shoot a 280 all the time and the recoil was not even close to the 270. I think that there are certain oddities about certain firearms that make them recoil worse than others. I'm not intelligent enough to explain it but I suspect there is something there.
I own both 270s and 7mags and to me 270 kicks like a mule where~as the 7mag kicks like 2 mules LOL
Savage 24F with 12 gauge with 3" slugs.
For handguns, a Ruger Super Redhawk .454 Casull. It would punish the web of my shooting hand. The Freedom Arms 83 .454 Cas was a joy to shoot after that. Difference was how double actions and single actions react to recoil.
Mossberg 935 shooting 3.5 inch number 5 turkey load with ultra full choke. Kicks worse than buckshot. I read an article that F&S put out that said turkey load kicks a lot worse than buckshot.
A .340 Weatherby Mag out of a lightweight Remington 700 rifle..It is worse than any 12 gauge that I ever fired!!!
I will give your friend $150 sight unseen for that terrible kicking 7mm-08 model 700. It is just physics and you will have a hard time convincing me that a 7 & 1/2 pound rifle of less than .338 win mag is a hard kicker. Poor stock design and fitting cause more felt recoil than the reality of it. I can't honestly say that I never even feel the recoil while firing at an animal when hunting. Some of the light 12 gauge side by sides will kick the snot out of you if you are expecting it but if you are firing at a rising rooster you don't even know it. You get home and get undressed to get in bed and there is a bruise from your chest clear out to your bicep. Is that enough to make you not go the next day? Never!
I shot a 10 gauge single shot one time that crossed my eyes pretty good. Never again will I shoot a 3 1/2 inch magnum in any shotgun. Way too much power for a light gun.
I am not surprised to hear that your Remington was unpleasant to shoot. The best rifle that I ever shot was a Winchester Model 70, the second best was a Ruger M-77. The absolute worst rifle that I ever shot was a Remington. The Ruger and the Remington were the same caliber, 7mm Mag, so the cartridge wasn't to blame. I believe that for some reason Remingtons do not fit some people and when it came time to buy a new rifle, it wasn't a Remington.
For the masochists out there try a 91/30 Mosin-Nagant with the 204 grain with a steel penetrator
Anybody remember the video that was posted about a year ago. Man that was funny, people were litterley getting kicked back and falling down! Can't recall what type it was sure somebody remembers what I talking about.
My 500 Jeffery. A few rounds at the bench with that pup and you really start to hear footsteps behind you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4juEIK_zRM
My buddy's 460 Weatherby.
The nastiest was a 308 in that old WinLite that weighted about 5 lbs. w/steel butt plate.
For me it was my old 8mm Mauser. I think the steel buttplate had a lot to do with it. My .30-06 isn't so bad if I hold the front down a bit.
My Remington 700 .35 Whelen with a walnut BDL stock and scope weighs spot on 8 pounds or so. With 225 grain loads the recoil is not mild, but is very tolerable. My mark V 7mm Weatherby Magnum at 9 pounds doesn't shoot much harder. The worst POS I ever owned was a Winchester 70 in .338 Win mag with synthetic stock. Felt recoil was horrendous.
I cannot imagine a 7mm-08 that weighs 7.5 pounds being too hard kicking. My .308 Win M700 ADL weighs about 7.5 pounds and shoot pretty easy.
I went out back and fired 3 test loads in my 7mm Weatherby Magnum tonight and was not bothered in the least by the recoil. It's no cupcake with 72 grains of powder pushing 150 grain bullets, but no monster either. My buddy's 14 year old daughter that is not even 5 feet tall and weighs less than 100 pounds soaking wet with a bar of Ivory soap in her pocket handles a Remington Model 7 in 7mm-08 without complaint. I don't know what to make of your situation.
The worst recoiling gun I have ever shot was a Ruger #3 in 45/70 with some red-hot handloads. Remember the #3 has a butt PLATE - not a recoil pad.
The worst recoiling thing I ever owned was a Marlin 1895, again in 45/70. Factory loads aren't so bad, but a stiff handload will punish you. I now have a .375 Ruger now and it is much more enjoyable to shoot. There's something to the combination of stock design, barrel length, and recoil impulse & speed that makes some things seem tame in comparison - even though my .375 has way more energy than the Marlin with handloads load ever did.
My 'setting off an M-80 in your hand award' goes to a friend of mine with his .375 JDJ Contender. No mas. Nuff.
A ruger #1 in .416 rigby was the worst. I was about 10 years old at the time. The range officers sure got a laugh out of that one.
It would be a toss up between a BPS 10 gauge with goose loads and a .416 Rigby from a Ruger No. 1.
Big, I was faced once with a decision on which Rem 700 to purchase. Both at Scheels, both priced right and both in very sanitary condition, both scoped.
I chose the .30-06 over the 7mm-08 although the 7mm seemed to have only 5 or 6 rounds put through it as it was brand spanking new. I remember the initial sting and the 2 week pain following the discharge of a friend's 700 7mm-08 every time I swung a hammer at work.
The same rifle was still for sale a month later. The word is out...
I feel the 3" slugs in a 12 ga and the 45-70 kick much harder than either of my 30-06s.
WA:
Haha I do feel a bit like a wimp saying a short actioned 7mm-08 was the worst recoil I've endured. I've shot 7mm Rem Mag's, .300 Win. Mags. .338 Lapua's, .338 Ultra Mags, a .50 Cal. a few times, plenty of 12 gauge rounds, but nothing made me flinch like that little 7mm. He's putting a mercury recoil reducer in the stock to see if that helps some. I don't know what it is about that little rifle but it just hits you hard in the cheek and the shoulder.
With my .300, you can watch your bullets impact at 300+ yards and at 600 yards, you can begin to watch your own bullet trace through the scope as the rifle has settled down enough to do so. It's kind of fun to be able to do that and being able to see your own trace is a great asset when shooting long range. No other rifle I own can I see that. Keep in mind my .300 weighs 14.5 lbs and is equipped with a great muzzle brake, which surprisingly isn't "knock your hat off" loud. I always wear hearing protection and I have a thread protector for it when hunting season comes around, so I can take it off and not blow my ear drums. I shoot the brake during practice as to not get fatigued and for hunting I take it off, you never seem to really notice recoil when hunting anyway.
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