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So Ruger just came out with a .357 bolt action rifle. Don't quite see the point, but who am I to judge?

Question by dukkillr. Uploaded on June 22, 2011

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

One of my friends is from South Africa. When growing up he used a .357 lever-action to kill problem monkeys on the family farm. He said the cartridge is very effective even at distances over 100 yards. I would think a bolt-action could be more accurate than a lever-action.

“The 77/357 is an effective tool for hunting medium-sized game – especially in heavy cover,” said Bruce Rozum, Chief Rifle Engineer at Ruger.

“Bullet velocities of .357 Magnum ammunition increase significantly when fired out of the 77/357′s 18 1/2″ cold hammer-forged barrel. In testing, Hornady 140 grain FTX loads were clocked at over 1820 feet per second. Furthermore, the flush-fit, five-shot rotary magazine does not protrude at the rifle’s balance point and, unlike tube-fed rifles, the Ruger 77/357 can be readily loaded and unloaded,” he concluded.

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

You are an (presumably)intelligent human being, with a God-given talent of taking in information, processing it, and making a decision. Of course you should judge.

This rifle does have a purpose...it's for BUYING; pretty much like 95% of all "new and improved" firearms in the last 50 years.

This has been a public service announcement from the Curmudgeons Against Everything group, LLC.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Don't want or need one of those Marginal on Deer, useless on anything LARGE.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

10-4 amflyer!

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

I looked at it on Rugers Web, nothing to see here move on!

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

They already have a .44 mag. auto-loader carbine. I would have thought that the better platform for another magnum revolver cartridge like the .357. But, like Amflyer suggests, it is new and it is shiny so people will want to be the first on their block to have one.

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from Sarge01 wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

I see absolutly no use for it. I am sure some people will buy it though.

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Dave, I believe Ruger discontinued the .44 Magnum autoloader. Their .44 Mag lever-action and bolt guns are still available.

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from dukkillr wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

It's a pity, too. I really liked the .44 mag autoloader, a buddy of mine has it and it's the handiest thing ever for close up tree stand shots.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Sorry to hear it too. I'll shift my comments then to their lever gun and predict that the .357 bolt action will soon join the .44 auto sans the fond memories.

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

What I'm curious about is if it will reliably feed .38 Special rounds out of the same rotary magazine. Don't the Marlin and Rossi lever actions with their tubular magazines shoot .38 Special with no problems?

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

The Ruger mags probably will feed the 38 specials.

But, they'll probably cost $69.95 also.

(Okay, that's enough.)

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Okay, I went to Sturm, Ruger and Co.'s website to check the price of the magazines. That rifle was the first thing to pop up.

It's useless, of course. There are many other things out there already that would do anything it could do better.

But...

It's also pretty cool. Sort of like a grown-up's .22. Wouldn't it be fun to load some little 38's and go rabbit-hunting? Or, how about a blued model with the International stock in a nice walnut?

Dammit!

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

I used to have a Marlin lever action Model 1894C in .357 Magnum with a nine-shot tubular magazine, that I kept loaded in the rack of my truck when I lived in Texas. It was a handy all-purpose weapon for close range targets of opportunity. It was not a deer hunting rifle.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

357 Maximum would have been nice

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Clay,
The .357 Maximum will be next, if the .357 Magnum catches on with the public. But I don't know if anybody makes ammo for it anymore.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

http://www.ruger.com/products/rotaryMagazine77357/models.html

For the price they can keep 'em.

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from 007 wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

An acquaintence of mine swears by his Marlin .357 magnum rifle for deer because "I killed one at a dead run with it". When I asked where he hit it and he admitted that he got it's neck, I offered that a good .22 magnum would have done as well and that if he intended to use it in the future he should brush up on his blood trailing skills. It's a good varmint rifle, or maybe home defense, that's about it.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Teats on a boar....

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Different strokes for different folks. If it fills a niche in the market, sales may be stronger than we think.
Resale value would be better than for a rifle chambered in a new short magnum caliber that falls by the wayside.

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from FirstBubba wrote 2 years 42 weeks ago

If nothing else, buy one, keep it unfired, NIB. Could be worth a pretty penny later!

Bubba

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from butch35 wrote 16 weeks 6 days ago

Don't like it? DON'T BUY IT!!! Me, I LIKE to shoot, I like to shoot a lot. I like to shoot a lot a lot. I liked 22s when they were cheap. I can shoot this as cheap as a 22. Pistol ammo is easy to load with a lot of load possibilities. Not gonna hunt deer with it but vermin and plinking just got a kick in the gas. I'm gonna enjoy the heck outta mine, don't think I won't. Party poopers.

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

One of my friends is from South Africa. When growing up he used a .357 lever-action to kill problem monkeys on the family farm. He said the cartridge is very effective even at distances over 100 yards. I would think a bolt-action could be more accurate than a lever-action.

“The 77/357 is an effective tool for hunting medium-sized game – especially in heavy cover,” said Bruce Rozum, Chief Rifle Engineer at Ruger.

“Bullet velocities of .357 Magnum ammunition increase significantly when fired out of the 77/357′s 18 1/2″ cold hammer-forged barrel. In testing, Hornady 140 grain FTX loads were clocked at over 1820 feet per second. Furthermore, the flush-fit, five-shot rotary magazine does not protrude at the rifle’s balance point and, unlike tube-fed rifles, the Ruger 77/357 can be readily loaded and unloaded,” he concluded.

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

You are an (presumably)intelligent human being, with a God-given talent of taking in information, processing it, and making a decision. Of course you should judge.

This rifle does have a purpose...it's for BUYING; pretty much like 95% of all "new and improved" firearms in the last 50 years.

This has been a public service announcement from the Curmudgeons Against Everything group, LLC.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

They already have a .44 mag. auto-loader carbine. I would have thought that the better platform for another magnum revolver cartridge like the .357. But, like Amflyer suggests, it is new and it is shiny so people will want to be the first on their block to have one.

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Okay, I went to Sturm, Ruger and Co.'s website to check the price of the magazines. That rifle was the first thing to pop up.

It's useless, of course. There are many other things out there already that would do anything it could do better.

But...

It's also pretty cool. Sort of like a grown-up's .22. Wouldn't it be fun to load some little 38's and go rabbit-hunting? Or, how about a blued model with the International stock in a nice walnut?

Dammit!

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

I used to have a Marlin lever action Model 1894C in .357 Magnum with a nine-shot tubular magazine, that I kept loaded in the rack of my truck when I lived in Texas. It was a handy all-purpose weapon for close range targets of opportunity. It was not a deer hunting rifle.

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from 007 wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

An acquaintence of mine swears by his Marlin .357 magnum rifle for deer because "I killed one at a dead run with it". When I asked where he hit it and he admitted that he got it's neck, I offered that a good .22 magnum would have done as well and that if he intended to use it in the future he should brush up on his blood trailing skills. It's a good varmint rifle, or maybe home defense, that's about it.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Don't want or need one of those Marginal on Deer, useless on anything LARGE.

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from Sarge01 wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

I see absolutly no use for it. I am sure some people will buy it though.

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Dave, I believe Ruger discontinued the .44 Magnum autoloader. Their .44 Mag lever-action and bolt guns are still available.

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from dukkillr wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

It's a pity, too. I really liked the .44 mag autoloader, a buddy of mine has it and it's the handiest thing ever for close up tree stand shots.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Sorry to hear it too. I'll shift my comments then to their lever gun and predict that the .357 bolt action will soon join the .44 auto sans the fond memories.

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from PigHunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

What I'm curious about is if it will reliably feed .38 Special rounds out of the same rotary magazine. Don't the Marlin and Rossi lever actions with their tubular magazines shoot .38 Special with no problems?

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from Amflyer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

The Ruger mags probably will feed the 38 specials.

But, they'll probably cost $69.95 also.

(Okay, that's enough.)

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from Clay Cooper wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

357 Maximum would have been nice

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Clay,
The .357 Maximum will be next, if the .357 Magnum catches on with the public. But I don't know if anybody makes ammo for it anymore.

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

10-4 amflyer!

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

I looked at it on Rugers Web, nothing to see here move on!

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from Jere Smith wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

http://www.ruger.com/products/rotaryMagazine77357/models.html

For the price they can keep 'em.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Teats on a boar....

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from 99explorer wrote 2 years 43 weeks ago

Different strokes for different folks. If it fills a niche in the market, sales may be stronger than we think.
Resale value would be better than for a rifle chambered in a new short magnum caliber that falls by the wayside.

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from FirstBubba wrote 2 years 42 weeks ago

If nothing else, buy one, keep it unfired, NIB. Could be worth a pretty penny later!

Bubba

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from butch35 wrote 16 weeks 6 days ago

Don't like it? DON'T BUY IT!!! Me, I LIKE to shoot, I like to shoot a lot. I like to shoot a lot a lot. I liked 22s when they were cheap. I can shoot this as cheap as a 22. Pistol ammo is easy to load with a lot of load possibilities. Not gonna hunt deer with it but vermin and plinking just got a kick in the gas. I'm gonna enjoy the heck outta mine, don't think I won't. Party poopers.

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