150 grain boat tail, soft-nose, spear point. IT WORKS! of coarse this is just Whitetail we're talking about. And we have small deer. A 5 year old weighs from 120-150#. But for the cheaper cost difference in the high dollar rounds, this kills them just a quickly and just as dead.
I use the 125gr core-lok. for the area i hunt My food plot field is max. shot of 96 yards long and 58 yards wide so for me, this does the job and has put many of lbs in the freezer. The rest of my property is hardwoods, so I do change to one of my other children LOL to take with me.
When I was 12, my Father started to sporterize a 03-A3 30-06 for me and at this age, I already had good knowledge in reloading thanks to Dad making my bedroom his reloading room with countless hours of him reloading including his buddies. 150 grain and heavier had a pretty good belt for me so I decided to try a lighter bullet. I gave Hornady 130 grain and with 54 grains of IMR4064, I discovered it had a tad less kick and it rocketed across those Arizona Canyons knocking down coyotes and Mule deer like Thor’s Hammer. Since then for 42 years, my pet load is the Hornady 130 grain and 54 grains of IMR4064 with the velocity of a 223!
Don't need a fancy bullet to knock down a deer, they don't wear bullet proof vests. A 30-06 round you can afford that shoots good will do a fantastic job!
I used to shoot Federal Premium 165gr Nosler ballistic tips exclusively. As Federals prices grew a bit out of hand i have been shooting Hornady lightMagnums 150gr as of late. Both with good results
I formerly used 180 grain Remington if I bought factory loads and Hornady bullets if reloading. Usually spitzers but bull-nose if I couldn't get spitzers. For the distance I was shooting, I didn't notice any difference. 165 grain messed up deer way too much and I didn't find the killing power very good either. I have now gone up to 190 grain boat-tail (Hornady I think) and I like them a lot. Would go to 200 but I can't find them. Don't let anybody fool you - 165 grain is WAY too light for elk! Look at my profile. I have quite a bit of expereince shooting deer, elk, and moose (and there's several animals that I don't have photos of). Some of those elk and moose took quite a pounding with 180 grain. Also, 165 grain or less won't buck the brush worth beans. A twig will turn them off course. Anything less is going to fly to pieces. I hunt hard tracking my animals and as often as not in thick stuff. Not a road or tree stand hunter. If I take a hundred yard shot, that is extraordinary. I have had plenty of them - just rarely take them. I don't want the meat badly enough to risk messing up an animal.
You need to achieve the perfect balance with bullet length, width, weight, and speed. Start shortening up the bullets and they are going to either fly to pieces or take off in strange directions after they hit the animal (if they hit the animal). Make them too long and jazz up the velocity and the bullet will go ass-over-teakettle after impact exiting heaven knows where. Don't try to over-achieve with your deer loads. That's a recipe for losing crippled deer or losing a lot of meat in the garbage bucket. No excuse for either. It also seems to be the mark of someone with compensation issues. 180 grain 30-06 is a good, balanced bullet for shooting either deer or elk.
My 30/06 round of choice for deer for years has been a 165 grain Remington Corelokt in a hand load sending the bullet out at 2750 fps or there abouts. This is basically equal to the factory load. I've also killed literally tons of feral hogs with this load. Why do it like it, it works and bullets are (or used to be) inexpensive. I used to buy them 500 at a time. At that rate they also made target practice a cheap proposition.
The Barnes XTP in 150 or 165 is an excellent choice as are loads in the same weight range with Nosler Ballistic Tips or Hornady Interlocks. After using a few on deer in 30 cal I feel the Nosler Accubonds are a bit much for whitetail.
Wiscbuckhunter-
Lots of good advice above. Mine would be to find which load shoots accurately in your rifle. Bullet weight between 150 - 180 gr. will kill a deer RND with proper shot placement. Our hunting group almost exclusively use a Nosler Ballistic Tip, and if they will shoot accurately in your rifle, it is a good bullet. .30-'06s sometimes have an affinity for a particular load, and accuracy should trump bullet weight.
I find it interesting how someone must use a Moose load 180 grain Remington Core-Lokt® on a poor little deer when a 130 or 150, especially a 22-250 55 grain soft point bullet will work just fine!
Personally, I like Winchester 150gr silvertip for pre-season sighting in then when Opening day rolls around, I break out the 150gr OR 168gr Ballistic Silvertips by Winchester. (Whichever box I toss into the shooting box on my way out the door) For where I hunt, I don't dare go with a lighter bullet weight for fear of fly away on twigs, but I really don't need the brush-busting ability of the 180 - 200gr sluggers
Man, you guys shooting those big bullets on a poor little defenseless dear are causing serious Seismographic activity in the earth’s core and look at the damage to Haiti and Chile you fella’s done!
I think some of these guys are making my point for me. For some reason they are trying to convince folks that a 180 grain bullet is going to blow up a deer worse than some teeny little slug whipping at mach 7. Shows their lack of experience. Exactly the opposite occurs. Both bullets are the same diameter. High speed and subsequent fragmentation of bullet, bone, and tissue is what will cause excessive damage and waste, NOT the heavier weight of a slug. The lighter, faster slug is going to be more prone to come apart or go off course after impact. I don't know how much more "punishing" a 180 gr bullet is to the shooter compared to 165 gr. I have shot both and really can't remember any difference. For the half dozen or less rounds a year I fire hunting deer and moose (I'm guessing average is three), it really doesn't matter. And ethically speaking it should never matter. The 180 grain has good range (200 yards - anything further is becoming unethical). It bucks the brush and wind much better than the lighter bullets. And finally, after impact IT GOES WHERE YOU POINTED IT. If I shoot a deer in the chest that's looking at me straight on, I can reasonably expect to find the 180 gr slug in its pelvic canal or thereabouts. With a 165 grain you can reasonably expect that the bullet is going to exit somewhere along the way tearing stuff up (e.g. front shoulder, backstraps, etc.). A nicely placed behind-the-shoulder lung shot with a too-light slug can turn into a blown up shoulder, backstraps, or even a ham on the exit side. Also, if I shoot a deer in heavy cover with a 180 gr I'll KNOW if I hit it. It's either down or nearly knocked down, not taking off to parts unknown like nothing happened and dying later.
Wiscbuckhunter, nice to see a fellow cheesehead on here. I've shot a .30-06 for over half my life, shooting whitetails with 165g, 168g, 180g, and 220g. (Why the 220g? Because I was 16 and crazy and I could.) Any expanding (non-match, non-fmj) bullet of 125 grains or greater will suffice, provided your particular rifle groups it well. If I had my druthers, I'd bring the old 180 grain Winchester Fail Safe back from the netherworld. After that, I'd take the 180g Nosler Partition.
good post, my dad has used the 180 round nose core lokt for 40 years and the only deer that got away was the one he didnt point his .308 at. He shot a cow moose in 1972 with a 180 core lokt. So its 180 gr core lokt in this family.
150 grain boat tail, soft-nose, spear point. IT WORKS! of coarse this is just Whitetail we're talking about. And we have small deer. A 5 year old weighs from 120-150#. But for the cheaper cost difference in the high dollar rounds, this kills them just a quickly and just as dead.
I use the 125gr core-lok. for the area i hunt My food plot field is max. shot of 96 yards long and 58 yards wide so for me, this does the job and has put many of lbs in the freezer. The rest of my property is hardwoods, so I do change to one of my other children LOL to take with me.
When I was 12, my Father started to sporterize a 03-A3 30-06 for me and at this age, I already had good knowledge in reloading thanks to Dad making my bedroom his reloading room with countless hours of him reloading including his buddies. 150 grain and heavier had a pretty good belt for me so I decided to try a lighter bullet. I gave Hornady 130 grain and with 54 grains of IMR4064, I discovered it had a tad less kick and it rocketed across those Arizona Canyons knocking down coyotes and Mule deer like Thor’s Hammer. Since then for 42 years, my pet load is the Hornady 130 grain and 54 grains of IMR4064 with the velocity of a 223!
Don't need a fancy bullet to knock down a deer, they don't wear bullet proof vests. A 30-06 round you can afford that shoots good will do a fantastic job!
I formerly used 180 grain Remington if I bought factory loads and Hornady bullets if reloading. Usually spitzers but bull-nose if I couldn't get spitzers. For the distance I was shooting, I didn't notice any difference. 165 grain messed up deer way too much and I didn't find the killing power very good either. I have now gone up to 190 grain boat-tail (Hornady I think) and I like them a lot. Would go to 200 but I can't find them. Don't let anybody fool you - 165 grain is WAY too light for elk! Look at my profile. I have quite a bit of expereince shooting deer, elk, and moose (and there's several animals that I don't have photos of). Some of those elk and moose took quite a pounding with 180 grain. Also, 165 grain or less won't buck the brush worth beans. A twig will turn them off course. Anything less is going to fly to pieces. I hunt hard tracking my animals and as often as not in thick stuff. Not a road or tree stand hunter. If I take a hundred yard shot, that is extraordinary. I have had plenty of them - just rarely take them. I don't want the meat badly enough to risk messing up an animal.
You need to achieve the perfect balance with bullet length, width, weight, and speed. Start shortening up the bullets and they are going to either fly to pieces or take off in strange directions after they hit the animal (if they hit the animal). Make them too long and jazz up the velocity and the bullet will go ass-over-teakettle after impact exiting heaven knows where. Don't try to over-achieve with your deer loads. That's a recipe for losing crippled deer or losing a lot of meat in the garbage bucket. No excuse for either. It also seems to be the mark of someone with compensation issues. 180 grain 30-06 is a good, balanced bullet for shooting either deer or elk.
Wiscbuckhunter-
Lots of good advice above. Mine would be to find which load shoots accurately in your rifle. Bullet weight between 150 - 180 gr. will kill a deer RND with proper shot placement. Our hunting group almost exclusively use a Nosler Ballistic Tip, and if they will shoot accurately in your rifle, it is a good bullet. .30-'06s sometimes have an affinity for a particular load, and accuracy should trump bullet weight.
I used to shoot Federal Premium 165gr Nosler ballistic tips exclusively. As Federals prices grew a bit out of hand i have been shooting Hornady lightMagnums 150gr as of late. Both with good results
My 30/06 round of choice for deer for years has been a 165 grain Remington Corelokt in a hand load sending the bullet out at 2750 fps or there abouts. This is basically equal to the factory load. I've also killed literally tons of feral hogs with this load. Why do it like it, it works and bullets are (or used to be) inexpensive. I used to buy them 500 at a time. At that rate they also made target practice a cheap proposition.
The Barnes XTP in 150 or 165 is an excellent choice as are loads in the same weight range with Nosler Ballistic Tips or Hornady Interlocks. After using a few on deer in 30 cal I feel the Nosler Accubonds are a bit much for whitetail.
Man, you guys shooting those big bullets on a poor little defenseless dear are causing serious Seismographic activity in the earth’s core and look at the damage to Haiti and Chile you fella’s done!
I find it interesting how someone must use a Moose load 180 grain Remington Core-Lokt® on a poor little deer when a 130 or 150, especially a 22-250 55 grain soft point bullet will work just fine!
Personally, I like Winchester 150gr silvertip for pre-season sighting in then when Opening day rolls around, I break out the 150gr OR 168gr Ballistic Silvertips by Winchester. (Whichever box I toss into the shooting box on my way out the door) For where I hunt, I don't dare go with a lighter bullet weight for fear of fly away on twigs, but I really don't need the brush-busting ability of the 180 - 200gr sluggers
I think some of these guys are making my point for me. For some reason they are trying to convince folks that a 180 grain bullet is going to blow up a deer worse than some teeny little slug whipping at mach 7. Shows their lack of experience. Exactly the opposite occurs. Both bullets are the same diameter. High speed and subsequent fragmentation of bullet, bone, and tissue is what will cause excessive damage and waste, NOT the heavier weight of a slug. The lighter, faster slug is going to be more prone to come apart or go off course after impact. I don't know how much more "punishing" a 180 gr bullet is to the shooter compared to 165 gr. I have shot both and really can't remember any difference. For the half dozen or less rounds a year I fire hunting deer and moose (I'm guessing average is three), it really doesn't matter. And ethically speaking it should never matter. The 180 grain has good range (200 yards - anything further is becoming unethical). It bucks the brush and wind much better than the lighter bullets. And finally, after impact IT GOES WHERE YOU POINTED IT. If I shoot a deer in the chest that's looking at me straight on, I can reasonably expect to find the 180 gr slug in its pelvic canal or thereabouts. With a 165 grain you can reasonably expect that the bullet is going to exit somewhere along the way tearing stuff up (e.g. front shoulder, backstraps, etc.). A nicely placed behind-the-shoulder lung shot with a too-light slug can turn into a blown up shoulder, backstraps, or even a ham on the exit side. Also, if I shoot a deer in heavy cover with a 180 gr I'll KNOW if I hit it. It's either down or nearly knocked down, not taking off to parts unknown like nothing happened and dying later.
Wiscbuckhunter, nice to see a fellow cheesehead on here. I've shot a .30-06 for over half my life, shooting whitetails with 165g, 168g, 180g, and 220g. (Why the 220g? Because I was 16 and crazy and I could.) Any expanding (non-match, non-fmj) bullet of 125 grains or greater will suffice, provided your particular rifle groups it well. If I had my druthers, I'd bring the old 180 grain Winchester Fail Safe back from the netherworld. After that, I'd take the 180g Nosler Partition.
good post, my dad has used the 180 round nose core lokt for 40 years and the only deer that got away was the one he didnt point his .308 at. He shot a cow moose in 1972 with a 180 core lokt. So its 180 gr core lokt in this family.
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Federal 165 grain Barnes Triple Shock X-bullet. Bang-flop everytime.
165 gr. accubond for everything from deer to elk.
168 grain Winchester ballistic silver tip. one shot one kill... get some!
Agreed with WA Mtnhunter and A +1 for you sir!!!
Count me with WAM and Rudy
Remington Core-lokt 180 grain
150gr Nosler BT.
150 grain boat tail, soft-nose, spear point. IT WORKS! of coarse this is just Whitetail we're talking about. And we have small deer. A 5 year old weighs from 120-150#. But for the cheaper cost difference in the high dollar rounds, this kills them just a quickly and just as dead.
But there is nothing wrong with any of these loads
I use the 125gr core-lok. for the area i hunt My food plot field is max. shot of 96 yards long and 58 yards wide so for me, this does the job and has put many of lbs in the freezer. The rest of my property is hardwoods, so I do change to one of my other children LOL to take with me.
All th.e recommendations are good.
Hang on guys! Nobody said those weren't great loads. The question was what "....type of ammo do you prefer?"
When I was 12, my Father started to sporterize a 03-A3 30-06 for me and at this age, I already had good knowledge in reloading thanks to Dad making my bedroom his reloading room with countless hours of him reloading including his buddies. 150 grain and heavier had a pretty good belt for me so I decided to try a lighter bullet. I gave Hornady 130 grain and with 54 grains of IMR4064, I discovered it had a tad less kick and it rocketed across those Arizona Canyons knocking down coyotes and Mule deer like Thor’s Hammer. Since then for 42 years, my pet load is the Hornady 130 grain and 54 grains of IMR4064 with the velocity of a 223!
OOPS!
WAM is right!!!
Don't need a fancy bullet to knock down a deer, they don't wear bullet proof vests. A 30-06 round you can afford that shoots good will do a fantastic job!
150's is perfect!
I used to shoot Federal Premium 165gr Nosler ballistic tips exclusively. As Federals prices grew a bit out of hand i have been shooting Hornady lightMagnums 150gr as of late. Both with good results
165gr Federals as well
165 grain remington core lokt. But that is just what my rifle prefers. Experiment, and see what your rifle shoots the most accurate.
I formerly used 180 grain Remington if I bought factory loads and Hornady bullets if reloading. Usually spitzers but bull-nose if I couldn't get spitzers. For the distance I was shooting, I didn't notice any difference. 165 grain messed up deer way too much and I didn't find the killing power very good either. I have now gone up to 190 grain boat-tail (Hornady I think) and I like them a lot. Would go to 200 but I can't find them. Don't let anybody fool you - 165 grain is WAY too light for elk! Look at my profile. I have quite a bit of expereince shooting deer, elk, and moose (and there's several animals that I don't have photos of). Some of those elk and moose took quite a pounding with 180 grain. Also, 165 grain or less won't buck the brush worth beans. A twig will turn them off course. Anything less is going to fly to pieces. I hunt hard tracking my animals and as often as not in thick stuff. Not a road or tree stand hunter. If I take a hundred yard shot, that is extraordinary. I have had plenty of them - just rarely take them. I don't want the meat badly enough to risk messing up an animal.
You need to achieve the perfect balance with bullet length, width, weight, and speed. Start shortening up the bullets and they are going to either fly to pieces or take off in strange directions after they hit the animal (if they hit the animal). Make them too long and jazz up the velocity and the bullet will go ass-over-teakettle after impact exiting heaven knows where. Don't try to over-achieve with your deer loads. That's a recipe for losing crippled deer or losing a lot of meat in the garbage bucket. No excuse for either. It also seems to be the mark of someone with compensation issues. 180 grain 30-06 is a good, balanced bullet for shooting either deer or elk.
My 30/06 round of choice for deer for years has been a 165 grain Remington Corelokt in a hand load sending the bullet out at 2750 fps or there abouts. This is basically equal to the factory load. I've also killed literally tons of feral hogs with this load. Why do it like it, it works and bullets are (or used to be) inexpensive. I used to buy them 500 at a time. At that rate they also made target practice a cheap proposition.
The Barnes XTP in 150 or 165 is an excellent choice as are loads in the same weight range with Nosler Ballistic Tips or Hornady Interlocks. After using a few on deer in 30 cal I feel the Nosler Accubonds are a bit much for whitetail.
I agree with WA mtnhunter same her +1 for you dude or dudet haha
My .30-06 was partial to Barnes 168gr TSX. Overkill for deer. You do have to mind what is behind them since pass through is highly likely.
MLH
Exactly why I like them. You aren't one of those peashooter riflemen are you? LOL
best regards,
WMH
Wiscbuckhunter-
Lots of good advice above. Mine would be to find which load shoots accurately in your rifle. Bullet weight between 150 - 180 gr. will kill a deer RND with proper shot placement. Our hunting group almost exclusively use a Nosler Ballistic Tip, and if they will shoot accurately in your rifle, it is a good bullet. .30-'06s sometimes have an affinity for a particular load, and accuracy should trump bullet weight.
OK Remington 150 or165 Corelockt is plenty for me! Whichever is on sale.
I find it interesting how someone must use a Moose load 180 grain Remington Core-Lokt® on a poor little deer when a 130 or 150, especially a 22-250 55 grain soft point bullet will work just fine!
180 grain Remington round nose I can hunt bear and deer at the same time. Has never let me down.
180 is good to have in bear country or if you case in there are moose and you have tags for both.
Personally, I like Winchester 150gr silvertip for pre-season sighting in then when Opening day rolls around, I break out the 150gr OR 168gr Ballistic Silvertips by Winchester. (Whichever box I toss into the shooting box on my way out the door) For where I hunt, I don't dare go with a lighter bullet weight for fear of fly away on twigs, but I really don't need the brush-busting ability of the 180 - 200gr sluggers
Man, you guys shooting those big bullets on a poor little defenseless dear are causing serious Seismographic activity in the earth’s core and look at the damage to Haiti and Chile you fella’s done!
oh, and I load my own rounds.
I think some of these guys are making my point for me. For some reason they are trying to convince folks that a 180 grain bullet is going to blow up a deer worse than some teeny little slug whipping at mach 7. Shows their lack of experience. Exactly the opposite occurs. Both bullets are the same diameter. High speed and subsequent fragmentation of bullet, bone, and tissue is what will cause excessive damage and waste, NOT the heavier weight of a slug. The lighter, faster slug is going to be more prone to come apart or go off course after impact. I don't know how much more "punishing" a 180 gr bullet is to the shooter compared to 165 gr. I have shot both and really can't remember any difference. For the half dozen or less rounds a year I fire hunting deer and moose (I'm guessing average is three), it really doesn't matter. And ethically speaking it should never matter. The 180 grain has good range (200 yards - anything further is becoming unethical). It bucks the brush and wind much better than the lighter bullets. And finally, after impact IT GOES WHERE YOU POINTED IT. If I shoot a deer in the chest that's looking at me straight on, I can reasonably expect to find the 180 gr slug in its pelvic canal or thereabouts. With a 165 grain you can reasonably expect that the bullet is going to exit somewhere along the way tearing stuff up (e.g. front shoulder, backstraps, etc.). A nicely placed behind-the-shoulder lung shot with a too-light slug can turn into a blown up shoulder, backstraps, or even a ham on the exit side. Also, if I shoot a deer in heavy cover with a 180 gr I'll KNOW if I hit it. It's either down or nearly knocked down, not taking off to parts unknown like nothing happened and dying later.
I personally like that theory. I have 150s, but I like 165s better. Speer if I can find and afford them.
My favorite powder is IMR4064. About 48 gr. to 50 gr. is enough.
150 Grain Corlokt and 150Grain Vital Shocks
I do have 180 Grain Corelokt but I would use them on moose or Caribou if I were in an area that has them and I have a license and tags to hunt them
Wiscbuckhunter, nice to see a fellow cheesehead on here. I've shot a .30-06 for over half my life, shooting whitetails with 165g, 168g, 180g, and 220g. (Why the 220g? Because I was 16 and crazy and I could.) Any expanding (non-match, non-fmj) bullet of 125 grains or greater will suffice, provided your particular rifle groups it well. If I had my druthers, I'd bring the old 180 grain Winchester Fail Safe back from the netherworld. After that, I'd take the 180g Nosler Partition.
good post, my dad has used the 180 round nose core lokt for 40 years and the only deer that got away was the one he didnt point his .308 at. He shot a cow moose in 1972 with a 180 core lokt. So its 180 gr core lokt in this family.
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Federal 165 grain Barnes Triple Shock X-bullet. Bang-flop everytime.
Agreed with WA Mtnhunter and A +1 for you sir!!!
150gr Nosler BT.
150 grain boat tail, soft-nose, spear point. IT WORKS! of coarse this is just Whitetail we're talking about. And we have small deer. A 5 year old weighs from 120-150#. But for the cheaper cost difference in the high dollar rounds, this kills them just a quickly and just as dead.
But there is nothing wrong with any of these loads
165 gr. accubond for everything from deer to elk.
168 grain Winchester ballistic silver tip. one shot one kill... get some!
Count me with WAM and Rudy
I use the 125gr core-lok. for the area i hunt My food plot field is max. shot of 96 yards long and 58 yards wide so for me, this does the job and has put many of lbs in the freezer. The rest of my property is hardwoods, so I do change to one of my other children LOL to take with me.
Remington Core-lokt 180 grain
All th.e recommendations are good.
When I was 12, my Father started to sporterize a 03-A3 30-06 for me and at this age, I already had good knowledge in reloading thanks to Dad making my bedroom his reloading room with countless hours of him reloading including his buddies. 150 grain and heavier had a pretty good belt for me so I decided to try a lighter bullet. I gave Hornady 130 grain and with 54 grains of IMR4064, I discovered it had a tad less kick and it rocketed across those Arizona Canyons knocking down coyotes and Mule deer like Thor’s Hammer. Since then for 42 years, my pet load is the Hornady 130 grain and 54 grains of IMR4064 with the velocity of a 223!
OOPS!
WAM is right!!!
Don't need a fancy bullet to knock down a deer, they don't wear bullet proof vests. A 30-06 round you can afford that shoots good will do a fantastic job!
150's is perfect!
165gr Federals as well
165 grain remington core lokt. But that is just what my rifle prefers. Experiment, and see what your rifle shoots the most accurate.
I formerly used 180 grain Remington if I bought factory loads and Hornady bullets if reloading. Usually spitzers but bull-nose if I couldn't get spitzers. For the distance I was shooting, I didn't notice any difference. 165 grain messed up deer way too much and I didn't find the killing power very good either. I have now gone up to 190 grain boat-tail (Hornady I think) and I like them a lot. Would go to 200 but I can't find them. Don't let anybody fool you - 165 grain is WAY too light for elk! Look at my profile. I have quite a bit of expereince shooting deer, elk, and moose (and there's several animals that I don't have photos of). Some of those elk and moose took quite a pounding with 180 grain. Also, 165 grain or less won't buck the brush worth beans. A twig will turn them off course. Anything less is going to fly to pieces. I hunt hard tracking my animals and as often as not in thick stuff. Not a road or tree stand hunter. If I take a hundred yard shot, that is extraordinary. I have had plenty of them - just rarely take them. I don't want the meat badly enough to risk messing up an animal.
You need to achieve the perfect balance with bullet length, width, weight, and speed. Start shortening up the bullets and they are going to either fly to pieces or take off in strange directions after they hit the animal (if they hit the animal). Make them too long and jazz up the velocity and the bullet will go ass-over-teakettle after impact exiting heaven knows where. Don't try to over-achieve with your deer loads. That's a recipe for losing crippled deer or losing a lot of meat in the garbage bucket. No excuse for either. It also seems to be the mark of someone with compensation issues. 180 grain 30-06 is a good, balanced bullet for shooting either deer or elk.
Wiscbuckhunter-
Lots of good advice above. Mine would be to find which load shoots accurately in your rifle. Bullet weight between 150 - 180 gr. will kill a deer RND with proper shot placement. Our hunting group almost exclusively use a Nosler Ballistic Tip, and if they will shoot accurately in your rifle, it is a good bullet. .30-'06s sometimes have an affinity for a particular load, and accuracy should trump bullet weight.
I used to shoot Federal Premium 165gr Nosler ballistic tips exclusively. As Federals prices grew a bit out of hand i have been shooting Hornady lightMagnums 150gr as of late. Both with good results
My 30/06 round of choice for deer for years has been a 165 grain Remington Corelokt in a hand load sending the bullet out at 2750 fps or there abouts. This is basically equal to the factory load. I've also killed literally tons of feral hogs with this load. Why do it like it, it works and bullets are (or used to be) inexpensive. I used to buy them 500 at a time. At that rate they also made target practice a cheap proposition.
The Barnes XTP in 150 or 165 is an excellent choice as are loads in the same weight range with Nosler Ballistic Tips or Hornady Interlocks. After using a few on deer in 30 cal I feel the Nosler Accubonds are a bit much for whitetail.
My .30-06 was partial to Barnes 168gr TSX. Overkill for deer. You do have to mind what is behind them since pass through is highly likely.
MLH
Exactly why I like them. You aren't one of those peashooter riflemen are you? LOL
best regards,
WMH
OK Remington 150 or165 Corelockt is plenty for me! Whichever is on sale.
180 grain Remington round nose I can hunt bear and deer at the same time. Has never let me down.
Man, you guys shooting those big bullets on a poor little defenseless dear are causing serious Seismographic activity in the earth’s core and look at the damage to Haiti and Chile you fella’s done!
oh, and I load my own rounds.
Hang on guys! Nobody said those weren't great loads. The question was what "....type of ammo do you prefer?"
I agree with WA mtnhunter same her +1 for you dude or dudet haha
I find it interesting how someone must use a Moose load 180 grain Remington Core-Lokt® on a poor little deer when a 130 or 150, especially a 22-250 55 grain soft point bullet will work just fine!
180 is good to have in bear country or if you case in there are moose and you have tags for both.
Personally, I like Winchester 150gr silvertip for pre-season sighting in then when Opening day rolls around, I break out the 150gr OR 168gr Ballistic Silvertips by Winchester. (Whichever box I toss into the shooting box on my way out the door) For where I hunt, I don't dare go with a lighter bullet weight for fear of fly away on twigs, but I really don't need the brush-busting ability of the 180 - 200gr sluggers
I think some of these guys are making my point for me. For some reason they are trying to convince folks that a 180 grain bullet is going to blow up a deer worse than some teeny little slug whipping at mach 7. Shows their lack of experience. Exactly the opposite occurs. Both bullets are the same diameter. High speed and subsequent fragmentation of bullet, bone, and tissue is what will cause excessive damage and waste, NOT the heavier weight of a slug. The lighter, faster slug is going to be more prone to come apart or go off course after impact. I don't know how much more "punishing" a 180 gr bullet is to the shooter compared to 165 gr. I have shot both and really can't remember any difference. For the half dozen or less rounds a year I fire hunting deer and moose (I'm guessing average is three), it really doesn't matter. And ethically speaking it should never matter. The 180 grain has good range (200 yards - anything further is becoming unethical). It bucks the brush and wind much better than the lighter bullets. And finally, after impact IT GOES WHERE YOU POINTED IT. If I shoot a deer in the chest that's looking at me straight on, I can reasonably expect to find the 180 gr slug in its pelvic canal or thereabouts. With a 165 grain you can reasonably expect that the bullet is going to exit somewhere along the way tearing stuff up (e.g. front shoulder, backstraps, etc.). A nicely placed behind-the-shoulder lung shot with a too-light slug can turn into a blown up shoulder, backstraps, or even a ham on the exit side. Also, if I shoot a deer in heavy cover with a 180 gr I'll KNOW if I hit it. It's either down or nearly knocked down, not taking off to parts unknown like nothing happened and dying later.
I personally like that theory. I have 150s, but I like 165s better. Speer if I can find and afford them.
My favorite powder is IMR4064. About 48 gr. to 50 gr. is enough.
150 Grain Corlokt and 150Grain Vital Shocks
I do have 180 Grain Corelokt but I would use them on moose or Caribou if I were in an area that has them and I have a license and tags to hunt them
Wiscbuckhunter, nice to see a fellow cheesehead on here. I've shot a .30-06 for over half my life, shooting whitetails with 165g, 168g, 180g, and 220g. (Why the 220g? Because I was 16 and crazy and I could.) Any expanding (non-match, non-fmj) bullet of 125 grains or greater will suffice, provided your particular rifle groups it well. If I had my druthers, I'd bring the old 180 grain Winchester Fail Safe back from the netherworld. After that, I'd take the 180g Nosler Partition.
good post, my dad has used the 180 round nose core lokt for 40 years and the only deer that got away was the one he didnt point his .308 at. He shot a cow moose in 1972 with a 180 core lokt. So its 180 gr core lokt in this family.
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