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What is going on with the handgun world? With all of the overpriced 1911 Want-a-be's. The Taurus 1911 clone has about 2000.00 worth of options on a 600.00 gun. I doubt it shoot any better or worst. I personally own two 45 ACP, one is an Officer Model, Star PD and the other is a Springfield GI government model. Both are very accurate, one is for target and the other is for concealment.

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from seadog wrote 18 weeks 1 day ago

The ammo situation is slowly getting a little better. Where I live in Florida, it's still much harder to find handgun ammo than rifle ammo. There's some available for most calibers, but you might have to settle for a different type of round than what you want. You can find 40S&W, 45ACP, 9mm, 38, 357 ... They were all hard to find a few months ago. It's better--still not good--prices are still crazy high. But don't even bother looking for .380--nobody has any.

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from 99explorer wrote 18 weeks 1 day ago

I don't care for the looks of the up-swept beavertail grip safety, purportedly designed to prevent hammer-bite. It strikes me as more of a styling change, like the tail fins on the cars of yesteryear. But the worst development of all is the oversized ambidextrous safety, which is a major safety hazard.

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from jamesti wrote 18 weeks 21 hours ago

there is a craze right now for people wanting to trick out their handguns when you only need a couple accessories for it to do what you need from it. if you have to put 2 grand into a gun you just bought, it abviously wasn't what you were looking for.

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 18 weeks 21 hours ago

When you compare many currently manufactured .45s with the M1911A1 or even the Colt Government Model of the '60s, the older .45s were entirely serviceable choices, but many of the aftermarket features (lowered ejection port, beveled mag well, better fit between slide & frame, etc.) were frequently requested, technique-sensitive features that were expensive features. A pistolsmith could earn a decent living working on 1911A1-framed .45s. With new manufacturing technology (computer numerically controlled mills and lates), these features became available on new .45s at a cost-effective (though elevated) price. I believe Kimber was in the forefront of that effort; I was very impressed with the fit and features of the Kimbers when they first appeared, and I remain a satisfied Kimber owner, but I readily acknowledge there are other excellent. multifeatured .45s on the market. Still, the bar has been raised, and the current market for the ever popular .45 expects the availability of these features. As you know, bare bones GI .45s are still available from Springfield and others, because some of us will always trust the slab-sided piece that operated so reliably under the worst imaginable conditions. The slide could be so loose you could almost hear it rattle in your holster, but (if you kept it clean) it operated in subfreezing cold or tropical heat. Should anyone intend to purchase a .45ACP, let the features you require be your guide, and you will find a manufacturer and model to satisfy your requirements. I will own and fire a .45 as long as the good Lord permits me a good eye and a steady hand; after that, I'll turn it over to my son. I readily acknowledge the .40 S&W is another good cartridge choice but, for those of us who were issued a .45, it will likely be our first choice for the most practical of reasons.

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from 99explorer wrote 18 weeks 19 hours ago

Count me in for the bare bones G.I. 45 auto. What it lacks in bullseye target accuracy it makes up in reliability.

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from Moishe wrote 18 weeks 19 hours ago

The Taurus has most of the features of the Kimber at 1/4 of the price, so does One of the Rock Island Armory moseld made in the the Philippines, both are accurate and fire Hollow point rounds with no additional modifications which is definitely a plus.

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from Moishe wrote 18 weeks 19 hours ago

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 18 weeks 13 hours ago

Moishe,
I've not examined the Taurus, but it sounds like a great value and well worth consideration.
Ed

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from Moishe wrote 17 weeks 5 days ago

Ed,I have looked at them but bought the Rock Island, because it is the easiest 1911 I have ever seen to take down and reassemble. The retaining pin is the easiest I have ever reinserted and that includes the Colt,AMT Hardballer and Kimber.

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from seadog wrote 18 weeks 1 day ago

The ammo situation is slowly getting a little better. Where I live in Florida, it's still much harder to find handgun ammo than rifle ammo. There's some available for most calibers, but you might have to settle for a different type of round than what you want. You can find 40S&W, 45ACP, 9mm, 38, 357 ... They were all hard to find a few months ago. It's better--still not good--prices are still crazy high. But don't even bother looking for .380--nobody has any.

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 18 weeks 21 hours ago

When you compare many currently manufactured .45s with the M1911A1 or even the Colt Government Model of the '60s, the older .45s were entirely serviceable choices, but many of the aftermarket features (lowered ejection port, beveled mag well, better fit between slide & frame, etc.) were frequently requested, technique-sensitive features that were expensive features. A pistolsmith could earn a decent living working on 1911A1-framed .45s. With new manufacturing technology (computer numerically controlled mills and lates), these features became available on new .45s at a cost-effective (though elevated) price. I believe Kimber was in the forefront of that effort; I was very impressed with the fit and features of the Kimbers when they first appeared, and I remain a satisfied Kimber owner, but I readily acknowledge there are other excellent. multifeatured .45s on the market. Still, the bar has been raised, and the current market for the ever popular .45 expects the availability of these features. As you know, bare bones GI .45s are still available from Springfield and others, because some of us will always trust the slab-sided piece that operated so reliably under the worst imaginable conditions. The slide could be so loose you could almost hear it rattle in your holster, but (if you kept it clean) it operated in subfreezing cold or tropical heat. Should anyone intend to purchase a .45ACP, let the features you require be your guide, and you will find a manufacturer and model to satisfy your requirements. I will own and fire a .45 as long as the good Lord permits me a good eye and a steady hand; after that, I'll turn it over to my son. I readily acknowledge the .40 S&W is another good cartridge choice but, for those of us who were issued a .45, it will likely be our first choice for the most practical of reasons.

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from 99explorer wrote 18 weeks 1 day ago

I don't care for the looks of the up-swept beavertail grip safety, purportedly designed to prevent hammer-bite. It strikes me as more of a styling change, like the tail fins on the cars of yesteryear. But the worst development of all is the oversized ambidextrous safety, which is a major safety hazard.

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from jamesti wrote 18 weeks 21 hours ago

there is a craze right now for people wanting to trick out their handguns when you only need a couple accessories for it to do what you need from it. if you have to put 2 grand into a gun you just bought, it abviously wasn't what you were looking for.

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from 99explorer wrote 18 weeks 19 hours ago

Count me in for the bare bones G.I. 45 auto. What it lacks in bullseye target accuracy it makes up in reliability.

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from Moishe wrote 18 weeks 19 hours ago

The Taurus has most of the features of the Kimber at 1/4 of the price, so does One of the Rock Island Armory moseld made in the the Philippines, both are accurate and fire Hollow point rounds with no additional modifications which is definitely a plus.

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from Moishe wrote 18 weeks 19 hours ago

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 18 weeks 13 hours ago

Moishe,
I've not examined the Taurus, but it sounds like a great value and well worth consideration.
Ed

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from Moishe wrote 17 weeks 5 days ago

Ed,I have looked at them but bought the Rock Island, because it is the easiest 1911 I have ever seen to take down and reassemble. The retaining pin is the easiest I have ever reinserted and that includes the Colt,AMT Hardballer and Kimber.

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