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Question by ICE300WSM. Uploaded on July 31, 2011
I did in the 60's
Sorry wrong question above :(
30/06 up to Elk larger or dangerous game 375 H&H .
My vote between these two choices would be for the ot six.
30-30 is almost obsolete, dont see them in the woods anymore, at least around where i hunt.
I would say more deer have been killed with a 30-30 then any other caliber. that said, of course the 30-06 is a great choice.I own both, and I still use my 30-30 and have never had a problem killing whitetail deer with it.
nothing wrong with a 30-30 for deer size game at decent ranges, but the 30-06 is definitely better. It does everything the 30-30 does (except better) and a whole lot more. Wouldn't trade my 30-06 for anything.
When you say "all-around big game rifle," the clear answer is the .30-06. Factory ammo is available in 125-grain 'Managed Recoil' loadings from Remington which offers 35% more energy than the .30-30. Then there are the regular loadings up to 220-grain bullets for the largest game on this continent.
If hunting forrested areas with shots typically 150 yards or less the .30 caliber 150 or 170 grain bullet out of the .30-30 will put the deer on the ground just as well as the .30 caliber 150 or 165 grain bullet out of a .30-06. However, if hunting open country with 200 + yard shots, or hunting larger game like elk, the .30-06 is the way to go.
.30-30, .32 Spl, .35, all old calibers but common up here in NH. Every hunter I know either has one or has had one. A great brush gun for deer, but for all big game a .30-30 doesnt quite cut it. Its range is limited, while the .30-06 has a bit more reach, as well as a far more vast bullet selection.
Here in Fl.the 30/30 is the #3 Round in this state for Deer, The #1.243W..#2.22/250R. The 30/30 is not dead, and the 06 is a top round in most states.
I have both. I retired the 30-30 years ago because the 30-06 has more power and is better in every way. It will work better in every situation you are likely to encounter in big game hunting.
The 30-06 is a better all around hunting rifle in terms of versatility of use. The 30-30 tends to be a great short range caliber.
The .30-'06 is the best all around choice for North American game. As has been said it offers the greatest versatility for bullet grain choice and end use.
that 30/06 is a heavy bullet but will travel,
If I'm hunting in thick brush for dear-size game or smaller, my 30-30 (aperture sight) gets the nod. For any other situation, regardless of what I'm hunting (except prarie dogs :-) I use the 30-06.
Well I guess the 30-06 would probably be the way to go.
What is the difference in shooting a deer at 50 yards with a .30-30, 200 yards with a .30-06, or 400 yards with a 7mm Weatherby Magnum? ......None!
Check the ballistics tables of any of the ammo manufacturers and answer your question.
WA Mtnhunter, I see your point but the variable is distance. I own a 300WSM which should be capable of deer at long range and elk at mid to possibly long range. I'm more curious about having a good short to mid range rifle that's very versatile. I know the question was kind of vague. Based on my other post I'm sure the WSM would do just fine for anything, but IMO you can't have too many guns and especially ones a little more suited for the exact hunt. I know there are too many variables to really have a true "all around gun" but everyones posts definitely give me more to think about and more to research - so i'm grateful!
The .30-30 is not an all-around big game cartridge by any stretch of the imagination. The .30-06 is a contender for the best all-around anything rifle cartridge. Your .300 WSM is capable of taking any game at reasonable ranges, which to me is inside 400 yards.
Want a short to mid range rifle, load your WSM with 165 gr bullets to about 2800 fps and you have it.
That is not a bad idea. That is a .30-06 load! LOL!
I don't know what a starting load for that cartridge would be.
I load my 7mm Weatherby (the only magnum I own) less than a max load by almost 80 fps for accuracy and the ballistics of the bullet at that speed matches my reticle points. Still about 100+ fps faster than a 7mm Rem mag and my son does not shoot up my ammo in his 7mm Rem mag!!
I would go with the 30-06, the most versatile firearm on the planet. It will effectively harvest any big game animal in North America at short range and at longer ranges as well.
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