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Question by Big-Buk. Uploaded on December 30, 2010
For strictly deer hunting, I would choose the .25-06 or the .308. But if bear and boar or anything larger are on the menu, I would prefer the .30/06.
Can't go wrong with any of them. I prefer the 30-06, but any of those will kill a deer just fine.
A 30-06, cause then then you can shoot just about anything with it
308. or 06 The ammo will cost the same...The 308 will be more comfortable to shoot.
strictly deer id shoot the 25-06, if you want to use it for multiple animals id take the 30-06
All in all, these guns are very similar and there isn't much that one has more to offer than the other. And as long you're a accurate shot, they will all harvest anything from a coyote to a large elk. For those that like less recoil, the .25-06 is preferred. The 30-06 is more popular around my parts, therefore the ammo is easily found. I am not sure of any difference between the .30-06 and the .308 other than 8 thousanths of an inch.
So which one has the most recoil out of all of them?
I've shot them all and chose the 25-06. I've used it for over 40 years and still consider it superior to the others because of its speed and killing power with such light recoil that I am highly confident in long range shots. The 30-06 has the most recoil of these three and is a fine cartridge if you want to shoot elk too. If you want to shoot varmints from prairie dogs to coyotes, the 25-06 is clearly the top choice. If you get one I suggest you load your own in order to take advantage of the small bullets available in that caliber for targets and varmints.
The 30-06 will probably kick the worst. But it really isn't that bad. I could shoot my 30-06 all day and not care, but if you are recoil sensitive you may want to go with a different one. The difference between the .308 and the 06 is the case length not the caliber. Both have a thirty caliber bullet, but the 06 has a longer casing. The .308 is 51 millimeters long if I remember right and the 06 is 60 something millimeters long. The 30-06 is a long action round and the .308 fits a short action.
I use a 25.06 for deer and that's about it.. However deer and smaller (pronghorn, coyote and an occasional jack rabbit) your good with the 25. All three are good choices. Bigger animals require bigger calibers. And remember.. Practice. Practice. Practice. And safety first. Good luck!
If you think that there is only .008 inch difference between a .30-06 and the .308 Winchester cartridge, you are fairly uninformed there boy. Why don't you comment on what you know for fact and leave the schoolboy B.S. off the blog?
I did chuckle a little on that post. I wonder what he thinks the 30-30 is compared to the 30-06? Anyway, all three of these are very good rounds. Base your decision on what all this rifle will be used for and if recoil is any problem for you.
For the 10 thousandth time, get the one you like, and find the load that it shoots the best. This question has been worn out.
Who IS that ballistic genius that knows that there is .008 inch difference in .308 caliber bullets?
According to Chuck Hawks rifle recoil table:
It's about what you would expect. The 25-06 is lowest in recoil, .308 is next, and the .30-06 is the most of the three. Note though that he used a slightly lighter rifle for the .308 figures so your mileage may vary.
As far as cartridge length; the .30-06 case length is 63.35 mm (2.494 in) and the .308 case length is 51.18 mm (2.015 in). There are slight other differences such as shoulder angle and case diameter but essentially, the .308 Winchester is a 1/2 inch shorter version of the .30-06 Springfield. Ain't Wikipedia wonderful!
By the way WAM, Iron Giant was correct in his statement if you take a closer look. You must be a little cranky to have been so insulting to someone. It's just not like you...
He said "The .308 is 51 millimeters long if I remember right and the 06 is 60 something millimeters long."
I think WAM was referring to Taylor Kash.
The 25-06 does have enough steam for Elk, bit light but it would work the 308 & 30-06 would be better for those Mountain Mules!
For Mule Deer and smaller, the 25-06 hands down! Far less recoil, flatter shooting and knocks down the brown! My #1 choice for beginners and experienced hunters!
I know both 308 and 30-06 more intimately than the Wife and still have no clue what the boy is talking about!
Maybe Al Gore Mathematics, .308 minus .30-06 = .008 ?
Figure it out please tell us!
Here we go again...
I also know a little bit about .30-'06s and .308s, and just a smidgen about the .25-06. But what that genius is talking about, I have no clue.
Maybe he is just learning. We should be educators and mentors for our younger brethren. Is my sensitivity showing?
.308, shoots flat with power.
.308 all the way. shoots the flatests and has the most range. It is considered by some and myself to be the most accurate caliber available. If u dont get that go with an 06 you would just sacrifice range.
Check this out, on the right hand side of the page, look fore "bullet diamether." There you will clearly read .308 inches. Hence .308 caliber. The .308 is in the 30 caliber family however, that may be what is tripping most of you up.
DSMbirddog, thanks for the help.
In my first comment, when I said the only difference thing, I was just referring to diameter. Didn't even cross my mind about the length and all.
ROTFLMAO! Happy New Year!
All 30 caliber bullets have a nominal diameter of .308 inches, except the British .303, which has a nominal bullet diameter of .311. The difference in 30 calibers is the OAL of cartridges, powder loading, brass, shoulder, SAMMI pressures, etc. etc. etc. Learn from the forum, and discontinue making witless statements. AND, quit whining on the Message Boards.
WAM, little harsh, eh? Forgive us all if we are misinformed.
To answer the posted question, shoot what you like. All 3 are plenty up to the task.
@ Taylor Kash: You'll have to forgive WAM- he's fed up with reading Sarah Palin mullarkey.
crm3006 started the lesson. Here's the scoop. .308 (30 caliber) diameter bullets are shot out of all .30 caliber rifles. These include .300 Savage, .308 Win., .30-06 Spr., and all .300 Magnums (Weatherby, Short and Ultra included).
I sometimes take for granted that people know what the hell I'm talking about- I was explaining reloading to my brother, who is a genius in electric code, construction, and anything mechanical. He DID NOT know that his .300 shot the same projectiles as my '06.
Have a god one.
@ afynky: The .308 shoots the least flat of the 3. The other two shoot out of the same size case, which holds more powder than the .308. More powder, generally speaking, equals higher velocity, equals flatter trajectory.
The -06 in .25-06 means 1906, the year the .30-06 was introduced as a military cartridge (caliber 30, model 1906.)
The .25-06 caliber is necked down to .25 caliber from a .30-06 case. As you may deduct, the lighter .25-06 will yeild higher velocities than the heavier .30-06. This will give it, with bullets of similar ballistic coefficient, the flattest trajectory of the three.
The .308 became a standard military round around 50 years ago, and that's why you see so many tactical rifles chambered for it today. It has nothing to do with superior ballistics, being 50-150 fps slower than .30-06 loads of equal weight. That said, the .308 is renowned for its accuracy.
I hope this explains the subject better for those of you who care.
Nice work Cbass. +1
CRM3006 - Be careful, LOL! Among others, the .32 S&W, .32 S&W Long, 7.62x25mm, 7.7x58, 7.62x54R and 7.62x39 also use .311 or .312 bullets.
I'd go with the 30-06, or IMPO the .300 win mag. With a good recoil pad you can shoot one all day long. They are good all purpose big game calibers. However, if you have the money to buy separate calibers, I would by the 25-06 for varmint, .30-06 or .300 for the larger game. Personally, I find anything under 130 gr to light for big game, but many marksman who are good shots- not saying that I'm not- use lighter rounds, ruins less meat.
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