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I'm in the market for my first deer rifle. Budget is $1,000 and desire caliber .308. I am currently considering 4 guns: the Remington 700, Savage Model 14, Tikka T3, and Weatherby Vanguard. An American gun is, of course, preferable, but I want to consider all options. Input from folks who know rifles is greatly appreciated. Thanks, guys.
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The Remington 700 is a tried and true model and it's made in the US. Also, it's easy to get parts for a Reminton 700 if you ever need to bring it into the gunsmith.
Unless you get a Sub-MOA Vanguard (about $900-1000), the Savage and Tikka will be the most accurate of the rifles you list. All of them will be adequately accurate deer guns, but some people aren't happy until they can hit a nickel every time at 100 yards.
My guess is you want a wood stocked rifle since you mention the Savage 14 series. I would say that you couldn't get an equally accurate rifle with good wood for less than $1000, so I would go that route.
I don't see you getting one for much under $700, so let's say you have $300 left for a scope. Nikon Monarchs can go for about that, and are better than just about anything similarly priced, and better than some scopes that cost more. Leupold VX-II and Bushnell Elites fit this bill too. Wouldn't hurt to check out Cabela's scopes too, their optics are actually pretty solid in all categories if you don't get their cheapies.
You could also try to find a Tikka for about $500-600 and get a $400-500 Zeiss. A great idea and even better deal, but that wouldn't be very American.
What shane said...
Thanks, guys. Input on the scope was very helpful, as well.
All good choices. I personally would go with the Savage 14. it's the only nice-looking rifle Savage makes, but they're all shooters.
I'm partial to Rugers, but that's personal preference. My kids have three Savage bolt guns that are a great value, make sure you get the Accu-trigger if you go that direction. You've definately got the right idea with a .308, I've got an elderly old Remington 788 that is a trusted ally. If you reload, look to 150 grain Hornaday Interlocks and IMR 4064, hits like Thor's hammer. Good hunting!
I would go with a remington 700 series. Great accurate rifle at a great price. Gives you some money to buy a real nice scope to go on it too! If you have a nice scope and just want a rifle I would go with a browning bolt!
Might also consider the new Winchester M70 - Featherweight or Sporter if you like wood, or Shadow or Extreme Weather if you want synthetic. Made in the USA.
I have a new .308 Win Featherweight - still working on loads but groups are ranging from 3 shot cloverleafs to 1.5" at 100yards. Groups get bigger after 3 shots, when the light barrel heats up, but I am not using it for varmints so am not concerned.
You cannot got wrong with a Remington, then a Leupold or Burris scope.
Tikka T3, like the others, but love the tikka, 1 inch guarantee, silky smooth bolt...they are shooters....
I have a 308 savage model 10 and I love it. Savage is a great brand. My next choice would be the Remington 700
No Weatherby advocates here?
I agree with MLH about the Winchester Model 70 Classic Featherweight. I especially like the controlled-feed feature, Mauser-type claw extractor and three-position positive safety. Also, the checkering pattern is very easy on the eyes.
Had one Remington...didn't like it. Shot all over the target. That was a 270 win model 760 pump. Heard that the 700 is alot better.
Savage have come a long way but I don't like the fit and finish of them. They do shoot straight and I can't deny that.
No experience with Wetherby.
Now as far as the Tikka T3. I bought one and it is awsome! Mine is a 270 win. I have a Leupold FX II 4 x 33 scope on it mounted with the Optilock bases and Extra Low rings. Best setup I have ever had. I can shoot 1" or less grouips at 100 yards. It is light enough to carry all day. It is well put together. You will not regret it.
I have at some time owner all 4 of the rifles that you asked about. At this time there are 5 Tikka T3 Lies , one is a 308, sitting in my gun safe. The other rifles are fine rifles, but I like the features of the T3 Lite. Smoothest bolt, excellent trigger, detachable magazine, and excellent shooter. I prefer the Tikka T3 Lite but you couldn't go wrong with any of the guns.
I would recommend that anybody get the T/C Encore. It is beautiful and well-made. The rifles are extremely accurate. You can get a wide variety of pistol, rifle, and shotgun barrels for it. I'm on the verge of purchasing another stainless receiver to replace the last one and keep it.
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Unless you get a Sub-MOA Vanguard (about $900-1000), the Savage and Tikka will be the most accurate of the rifles you list. All of them will be adequately accurate deer guns, but some people aren't happy until they can hit a nickel every time at 100 yards.
My guess is you want a wood stocked rifle since you mention the Savage 14 series. I would say that you couldn't get an equally accurate rifle with good wood for less than $1000, so I would go that route.
I don't see you getting one for much under $700, so let's say you have $300 left for a scope. Nikon Monarchs can go for about that, and are better than just about anything similarly priced, and better than some scopes that cost more. Leupold VX-II and Bushnell Elites fit this bill too. Wouldn't hurt to check out Cabela's scopes too, their optics are actually pretty solid in all categories if you don't get their cheapies.
You could also try to find a Tikka for about $500-600 and get a $400-500 Zeiss. A great idea and even better deal, but that wouldn't be very American.
The Remington 700 is a tried and true model and it's made in the US. Also, it's easy to get parts for a Reminton 700 if you ever need to bring it into the gunsmith.
What shane said...
Might also consider the new Winchester M70 - Featherweight or Sporter if you like wood, or Shadow or Extreme Weather if you want synthetic. Made in the USA.
I have a new .308 Win Featherweight - still working on loads but groups are ranging from 3 shot cloverleafs to 1.5" at 100yards. Groups get bigger after 3 shots, when the light barrel heats up, but I am not using it for varmints so am not concerned.
Thanks, guys. Input on the scope was very helpful, as well.
All good choices. I personally would go with the Savage 14. it's the only nice-looking rifle Savage makes, but they're all shooters.
I'm partial to Rugers, but that's personal preference. My kids have three Savage bolt guns that are a great value, make sure you get the Accu-trigger if you go that direction. You've definately got the right idea with a .308, I've got an elderly old Remington 788 that is a trusted ally. If you reload, look to 150 grain Hornaday Interlocks and IMR 4064, hits like Thor's hammer. Good hunting!
I would go with a remington 700 series. Great accurate rifle at a great price. Gives you some money to buy a real nice scope to go on it too! If you have a nice scope and just want a rifle I would go with a browning bolt!
Tikka T3, like the others, but love the tikka, 1 inch guarantee, silky smooth bolt...they are shooters....
I have a 308 savage model 10 and I love it. Savage is a great brand. My next choice would be the Remington 700
I agree with MLH about the Winchester Model 70 Classic Featherweight. I especially like the controlled-feed feature, Mauser-type claw extractor and three-position positive safety. Also, the checkering pattern is very easy on the eyes.
I have at some time owner all 4 of the rifles that you asked about. At this time there are 5 Tikka T3 Lies , one is a 308, sitting in my gun safe. The other rifles are fine rifles, but I like the features of the T3 Lite. Smoothest bolt, excellent trigger, detachable magazine, and excellent shooter. I prefer the Tikka T3 Lite but you couldn't go wrong with any of the guns.
You cannot got wrong with a Remington, then a Leupold or Burris scope.
No Weatherby advocates here?
Had one Remington...didn't like it. Shot all over the target. That was a 270 win model 760 pump. Heard that the 700 is alot better.
Savage have come a long way but I don't like the fit and finish of them. They do shoot straight and I can't deny that.
No experience with Wetherby.
Now as far as the Tikka T3. I bought one and it is awsome! Mine is a 270 win. I have a Leupold FX II 4 x 33 scope on it mounted with the Optilock bases and Extra Low rings. Best setup I have ever had. I can shoot 1" or less grouips at 100 yards. It is light enough to carry all day. It is well put together. You will not regret it.
I would recommend that anybody get the T/C Encore. It is beautiful and well-made. The rifles are extremely accurate. You can get a wide variety of pistol, rifle, and shotgun barrels for it. I'm on the verge of purchasing another stainless receiver to replace the last one and keep it.
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