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What rifle is more powerful? The 308, 270, Or the 30-06?

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from 99explorer wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

My vote goes to the .30/06 if a shooter defines power in terms of energy to penetrate and to stop the largest animals on this continent. It is available in factory-loaded ammunition with bullets weighing up to 220 grains.

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from J4huntfish wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

99 you couldnt have sad it better, 1+ for you

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from Jim in Mo wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

It's the '06 as 99 said. 308 does good as 150gr-165. 180 is good but case size limits powder capacity.
I don't want to put the .308 down because if you need a light rifle for sheep or other long excursions you could load up a 308 with Barnes and do very well. .
For whitetail there is not an ounce difference no matter the bullet weight.

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from Phil1227 wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

99 nailed it

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from upnorthmn wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

I own and love both but, the '06 wins that one

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

Any way you measure it, the -06.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

Which rifle is more powerful?

Far as knock down power, the 30-06.

As for flat trajectory the 270, but if you reload? You can load pretty sweat loads for all of them!

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from Jere Smith wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

30/06 without a doubt.

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from Jere Smith wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

I happend to come across this in one of Jeff Coopers Commentaries today (Vol. 10, No. 1), thought you might be interested. It's long, but as always, it's good.

THE KING

Doubtless you have noted the recent tendency on the part of various gun writers to denigrate the 30-06 cartridge. The late Charley Askins demonstrated this attitude some years ago in a magazine article, and now we see that a currently active colleague has taken up the tattered banner of iconoclasm again.

The trouble with the 30-06 is that, like Julius Caesar, it is too good. It is not only too good, but it is too old - now only four years short of its centennial. People have been trying to improve upon it since before I was born (and that was a very long time ago), but without success. Its great virtue seems to be its unacceptable versatility, which is a drawback in the age of specialization. I acquired my personal 06 when I was in high school, and while I have obtained a number of other weapons since then, I have never felt a real need to improve upon the cartridge. The 30-06 is nobody's first choice for elephants, nor is it ideal for prairie dogs, but it will suffice for either of those if that is all that is available, and it will account comfortably for everything in between - including Homo sapiens.

The cartridge was deemed too large for optimum portability after the Korean War, and was replaced by the US government with the 7.62 NATO cartridge, or 308 as we call it now. The 308 is a tad smaller than the 06, but this is a minor point to the individual owner, and with the advent of the more modern propellants any power difference between the two cartridges is negligible.

The 30-06 retains a minor, but not inconsiderable, edge over the more modern 308 in its accommodation of the 220-grain bullet, which renders it a practically perfect cartridge for the African buschveldt today, where versatility in one loading can be very useful. The 30-06/220 is eminently suitable for kudu or lion, yet will not tear up an impala or a springbok (whereas the 30-06/150 might).

I grew up on the 30-06, and that makes me a dinosaur, but I am nowise ashamed of that. In my teens I took four-for-four (bighorn through moose) with four shots in Alberta, and I have since taken a fair list of quadrupeds, big and little, with the same round.

Today I might fancy the 308 over the 06 simply because I can get it in Scout configuration. The Scout, after all, comes over-the-counter in 308. The difference in "field effect" between the 308/150 and 30-06/150 is negligible, so the handiness of the Scout favors it in high mountains and tundra. If the hunter is going to ride around in vehicles, however, handiness hardly matters.

There need be no discussion of intrinsic accuracy, since that is a function of rifle execution rather than cartridge design. Given equally fine launchers, both cartridges will deliver one-holers at reasonable ranges, and will shoot flatter than the marksman can appreciate out to where he can no longer see his target clearly.

The 30-06 ("United States cartridge, caliber 30, model of 1906") was and remains king. If the 308 now encroaches upon it that is because of improvements in rifle design, rather than new cartridges. Let him who would denigrate the King place himself well beyond the castle walls lest he be overheard. The punishment for lese majeste can be both undignified and uncomfortable.

"But there ain't many troubles that a man caint fix
With seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six."

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from Dan Cameron wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

Probably the 30-06 but the 270 shoots flatter and more accurate

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from Crazyhunter wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

Personally i prefer the .270 but i admit the 30-06 has more knock down really there pretty much the same thing a .270 is just a knecked down 30-06. For me .270 gets the job done with less recoil and less bullet drop.

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from iron giant wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

The 30-06 has the most knockdown power. I love my 06. Definitely my favorite rifle.

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from DakotaMan wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

30-06

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from 31Alpha wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

30-06 has more power, but a well put together .308WIN will always be better than a poorly loaded 30-06.

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from 99explorer wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

My vote goes to the .30/06 if a shooter defines power in terms of energy to penetrate and to stop the largest animals on this continent. It is available in factory-loaded ammunition with bullets weighing up to 220 grains.

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from J4huntfish wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

99 you couldnt have sad it better, 1+ for you

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from Jim in Mo wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

It's the '06 as 99 said. 308 does good as 150gr-165. 180 is good but case size limits powder capacity.
I don't want to put the .308 down because if you need a light rifle for sheep or other long excursions you could load up a 308 with Barnes and do very well. .
For whitetail there is not an ounce difference no matter the bullet weight.

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from Phil1227 wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

99 nailed it

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from upnorthmn wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

I own and love both but, the '06 wins that one

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from Jere Smith wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

I happend to come across this in one of Jeff Coopers Commentaries today (Vol. 10, No. 1), thought you might be interested. It's long, but as always, it's good.

THE KING

Doubtless you have noted the recent tendency on the part of various gun writers to denigrate the 30-06 cartridge. The late Charley Askins demonstrated this attitude some years ago in a magazine article, and now we see that a currently active colleague has taken up the tattered banner of iconoclasm again.

The trouble with the 30-06 is that, like Julius Caesar, it is too good. It is not only too good, but it is too old - now only four years short of its centennial. People have been trying to improve upon it since before I was born (and that was a very long time ago), but without success. Its great virtue seems to be its unacceptable versatility, which is a drawback in the age of specialization. I acquired my personal 06 when I was in high school, and while I have obtained a number of other weapons since then, I have never felt a real need to improve upon the cartridge. The 30-06 is nobody's first choice for elephants, nor is it ideal for prairie dogs, but it will suffice for either of those if that is all that is available, and it will account comfortably for everything in between - including Homo sapiens.

The cartridge was deemed too large for optimum portability after the Korean War, and was replaced by the US government with the 7.62 NATO cartridge, or 308 as we call it now. The 308 is a tad smaller than the 06, but this is a minor point to the individual owner, and with the advent of the more modern propellants any power difference between the two cartridges is negligible.

The 30-06 retains a minor, but not inconsiderable, edge over the more modern 308 in its accommodation of the 220-grain bullet, which renders it a practically perfect cartridge for the African buschveldt today, where versatility in one loading can be very useful. The 30-06/220 is eminently suitable for kudu or lion, yet will not tear up an impala or a springbok (whereas the 30-06/150 might).

I grew up on the 30-06, and that makes me a dinosaur, but I am nowise ashamed of that. In my teens I took four-for-four (bighorn through moose) with four shots in Alberta, and I have since taken a fair list of quadrupeds, big and little, with the same round.

Today I might fancy the 308 over the 06 simply because I can get it in Scout configuration. The Scout, after all, comes over-the-counter in 308. The difference in "field effect" between the 308/150 and 30-06/150 is negligible, so the handiness of the Scout favors it in high mountains and tundra. If the hunter is going to ride around in vehicles, however, handiness hardly matters.

There need be no discussion of intrinsic accuracy, since that is a function of rifle execution rather than cartridge design. Given equally fine launchers, both cartridges will deliver one-holers at reasonable ranges, and will shoot flatter than the marksman can appreciate out to where he can no longer see his target clearly.

The 30-06 ("United States cartridge, caliber 30, model of 1906") was and remains king. If the 308 now encroaches upon it that is because of improvements in rifle design, rather than new cartridges. Let him who would denigrate the King place himself well beyond the castle walls lest he be overheard. The punishment for lese majeste can be both undignified and uncomfortable.

"But there ain't many troubles that a man caint fix
With seven hundred dollars and a thirty ought six."

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from steve182 wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

Any way you measure it, the -06.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

Which rifle is more powerful?

Far as knock down power, the 30-06.

As for flat trajectory the 270, but if you reload? You can load pretty sweat loads for all of them!

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from Crazyhunter wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

Personally i prefer the .270 but i admit the 30-06 has more knock down really there pretty much the same thing a .270 is just a knecked down 30-06. For me .270 gets the job done with less recoil and less bullet drop.

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from iron giant wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

The 30-06 has the most knockdown power. I love my 06. Definitely my favorite rifle.

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from Jere Smith wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

30/06 without a doubt.

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from DakotaMan wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

30-06

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from 31Alpha wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

30-06 has more power, but a well put together .308WIN will always be better than a poorly loaded 30-06.

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from Dan Cameron wrote 3 years 5 weeks ago

Probably the 30-06 but the 270 shoots flatter and more accurate

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