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Im thinking on getting a new remington 870 in 12 ga. i read some reviews on cabelas and people have had some complaints. What do you guys think about the gun?

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from Jere Smith wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

It;s a proven gun with a 60 year history I have one in 15 ga that was made in 1961 it has never failed yet. Cabelas is also O.K.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I've had one for over 25 years. I have two brothers that use them. No problems with any of them.

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from Teodoro wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I have one of the newer ones, have never handled the old. It's a fine gun, in my opinion. One thing I have read, and which has been backed up by experience, is that the new ones are very prone to rust, despite the matte-finish they put on there.

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from Hil wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Go for the Wingmaster. There are a lot of complaints about the new Expresses, from what I hear.

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from DakotaMan wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I have a 20 year old Wingmaster and it has never failed me under many tough conditions. I have gravitated to using it over autoloaders over the last decade because of reliability and sight picture. The Expresses are a cheaped out version but still using the same reliable action. You could do a lot worse for under $1000. I like the Benelli Golden Eagle for serious goose shooting because of the low recoil for 3 1/2 inch shells but that is about $1200.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

You cannot go wrong with an 870.

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from T wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

i was looking at the express laminate

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from pbshooter1217 wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

No complaints form me.

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from PigHunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I would choose my 870 if limited to only one gun for the rest of my life.

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from ckRich wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I learned with an 870 Wingmaster 20 ga. and still shoot it today. A good friend has a 870 Express 12 ga. that he has put a couple thousand rounds through, and no problems yet. Get one, clean it regularly, and you won't have any problems.

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from Dcast wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I have an express, and use it for everything. I have a few complaints but I still wouldn't trade it. #1) It hates low brass shells but mainly winchester low brass. It will eject(issue #2) federal and remington shells fine and maybe jamb 1 out of 50-100 and can easily be ejected after a little force. I've had some winys jamb so bad I had to take the barrell off and for that reason I will never put winys thru it ever again. Note that my friends 11-87 does the same thing with winys, so it could be the ammunition. #2) It doesn't eject the shells nearly as well as it should. I have had shells stovepipe when trying to chamber another round and then I would have to remove by hand which can ruin a second shot and it has. There maybe an easy fix for this but I don't know of it so if anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it!

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from hunt and fish wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

never have had any problems with the gun. a friend of mine fell in a creek while hunting about 10 years ago the gun got all muddy we cleaned it with out t-shirt and it worked fine the rest of the weekend and still works great today. no problems with the ejection.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

My only complaint about my 870, is it isn't a Mod 12 Win!! LOL!!!
The Mod 12 Win was/is the ultimate pumpgun. The 870 Rem, in my opinion, is probably as close as you can EVER get to a Mod 12.
The 870 is extremely reliable. It has proven itself over many, many years and will probably be a staple for many more years to come!!!
I don't see ANYBODY producing a firearm any better, any cheaper, anytime soon!!!

Bubba

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from hunt and fish wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Bubba, i do love the model 12 win as well. my dad has one. not only is it reliable but it looks really cool too.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I never cared much for the Moded 12. My father had a 20 ga. I believe the model 97 had a much slicker action and so does the 870. JMHO

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from jamesti wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

try to get an older one that has been cared for. great shotguns. one of the best ever made.

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from fands fun wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I have an OLD wingmaster & it always kills birds with no hickups...Id like to go get something new & shinny but why...it will probably go to my Son when Im gone...Good Gun

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from J4huntfish wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Bubba my grandfather gave me his model 12 in 20 gauge from 1936. In my opinion you can't get any better pump

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from Crazyhunter wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I personally prefer a benelli supernova or nova Remington has beren having some quality issues lately neither will fail you and is rock solid

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from hengst wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I've gotta go with crazyhunter on this one. The reputation of the 870 is stellar. Reputation is built on the past presently they seem to be having QAQC issues. The nova is the way to go

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from Phil1227 wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Great guns Ive got many friends that use them and never complain or have any problems.

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from Boxcarcrzy12 wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

A great gun in my opinion. Although many of these guys say there older ones are amazing, SOME of the newer ones (not all) have some problems, but if you contact remington they'll take care of it.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I don't have new 870's because I have never been able to wear them out! The 870 has the Dr. WAM Unconditional Good Armskeeping Seal of Approval. Come tell us about your Benelli's in 20 years!

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from shane wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

The Express is not the 870 of old. All the older 870s were gems, no doubt. The Express loves to rust, has cheap wood, and apparently has some function issues here and there too from what I've been hearing. The Wingmaster is an awesome gun then and now.

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from Hil wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Shane said it better than I did, +1. I would love to add an 870 to the gun safe, but it will not be an Express and it will not be bought new. I'm thinking a '70s, early '80s model.

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from PigHunter wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Shane is right, 20 years ago, my old Express had a few spots of rust appear and the forearm swell and crack from all day duck hunting in the rain. A little TLC with an oily rag on the metal and some linseed oil on the wood and everthing was all right. I've used that 870 every year since and have no complaints. It may be ugly, but it still functions perfectly. (same gun is pictured in my avatar and in my one photo).

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I've shot a Wingmaster for decades. I like it so much a few Christmases ago I gave both my sons 870's. I carried one for years back when I wore a badge and thus trusted my life to it. I just don't have anything bad to say about it.

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from shane wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

The Express is not the 870 of old. All the older 870s were gems, no doubt. The Express loves to rust, has cheap wood, and apparently has some function issues here and there too from what I've been hearing. The Wingmaster is an awesome gun then and now.

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from Hil wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

Go for the Wingmaster. There are a lot of complaints about the new Expresses, from what I hear.

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from jamesti wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

try to get an older one that has been cared for. great shotguns. one of the best ever made.

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from Crazyhunter wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I personally prefer a benelli supernova or nova Remington has beren having some quality issues lately neither will fail you and is rock solid

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from hengst wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I've gotta go with crazyhunter on this one. The reputation of the 870 is stellar. Reputation is built on the past presently they seem to be having QAQC issues. The nova is the way to go

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from Teodoro wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I have one of the newer ones, have never handled the old. It's a fine gun, in my opinion. One thing I have read, and which has been backed up by experience, is that the new ones are very prone to rust, despite the matte-finish they put on there.

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from DakotaMan wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I have a 20 year old Wingmaster and it has never failed me under many tough conditions. I have gravitated to using it over autoloaders over the last decade because of reliability and sight picture. The Expresses are a cheaped out version but still using the same reliable action. You could do a lot worse for under $1000. I like the Benelli Golden Eagle for serious goose shooting because of the low recoil for 3 1/2 inch shells but that is about $1200.

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from buckhunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

You cannot go wrong with an 870.

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from PigHunter wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I would choose my 870 if limited to only one gun for the rest of my life.

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from ckRich wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I learned with an 870 Wingmaster 20 ga. and still shoot it today. A good friend has a 870 Express 12 ga. that he has put a couple thousand rounds through, and no problems yet. Get one, clean it regularly, and you won't have any problems.

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from Dcast wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I have an express, and use it for everything. I have a few complaints but I still wouldn't trade it. #1) It hates low brass shells but mainly winchester low brass. It will eject(issue #2) federal and remington shells fine and maybe jamb 1 out of 50-100 and can easily be ejected after a little force. I've had some winys jamb so bad I had to take the barrell off and for that reason I will never put winys thru it ever again. Note that my friends 11-87 does the same thing with winys, so it could be the ammunition. #2) It doesn't eject the shells nearly as well as it should. I have had shells stovepipe when trying to chamber another round and then I would have to remove by hand which can ruin a second shot and it has. There maybe an easy fix for this but I don't know of it so if anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it!

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from hunt and fish wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

never have had any problems with the gun. a friend of mine fell in a creek while hunting about 10 years ago the gun got all muddy we cleaned it with out t-shirt and it worked fine the rest of the weekend and still works great today. no problems with the ejection.

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from FirstBubba wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

My only complaint about my 870, is it isn't a Mod 12 Win!! LOL!!!
The Mod 12 Win was/is the ultimate pumpgun. The 870 Rem, in my opinion, is probably as close as you can EVER get to a Mod 12.
The 870 is extremely reliable. It has proven itself over many, many years and will probably be a staple for many more years to come!!!
I don't see ANYBODY producing a firearm any better, any cheaper, anytime soon!!!

Bubba

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from Boxcarcrzy12 wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

A great gun in my opinion. Although many of these guys say there older ones are amazing, SOME of the newer ones (not all) have some problems, but if you contact remington they'll take care of it.

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from Jere Smith wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

It;s a proven gun with a 60 year history I have one in 15 ga that was made in 1961 it has never failed yet. Cabelas is also O.K.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

I've had one for over 25 years. I have two brothers that use them. No problems with any of them.

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from T wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

i was looking at the express laminate

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from pbshooter1217 wrote 3 years 16 weeks ago

No complaints form me.

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from hunt and fish wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Bubba, i do love the model 12 win as well. my dad has one. not only is it reliable but it looks really cool too.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I never cared much for the Moded 12. My father had a 20 ga. I believe the model 97 had a much slicker action and so does the 870. JMHO

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from fands fun wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I have an OLD wingmaster & it always kills birds with no hickups...Id like to go get something new & shinny but why...it will probably go to my Son when Im gone...Good Gun

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from J4huntfish wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Bubba my grandfather gave me his model 12 in 20 gauge from 1936. In my opinion you can't get any better pump

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from Phil1227 wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Great guns Ive got many friends that use them and never complain or have any problems.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I don't have new 870's because I have never been able to wear them out! The 870 has the Dr. WAM Unconditional Good Armskeeping Seal of Approval. Come tell us about your Benelli's in 20 years!

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from Hil wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Shane said it better than I did, +1. I would love to add an 870 to the gun safe, but it will not be an Express and it will not be bought new. I'm thinking a '70s, early '80s model.

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from PigHunter wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Shane is right, 20 years ago, my old Express had a few spots of rust appear and the forearm swell and crack from all day duck hunting in the rain. A little TLC with an oily rag on the metal and some linseed oil on the wood and everthing was all right. I've used that 870 every year since and have no complaints. It may be ugly, but it still functions perfectly. (same gun is pictured in my avatar and in my one photo).

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

I've shot a Wingmaster for decades. I like it so much a few Christmases ago I gave both my sons 870's. I carried one for years back when I wore a badge and thus trusted my life to it. I just don't have anything bad to say about it.

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