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I am preparing for a possible elk hunt next season, and was woundering if anyone could tell me how a 30-06 compares to a 7mm Remington mag in dropping power, recoil, and over all balistics?
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Go to the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation's web site and check out the cartridge articles by Wayne van Zwoll. They are very similar in elk hunting loads and in the higher end -06 loads can out perform the 7mmMag. However it is all a numbers game. They both work very well and the elk don't know the difference.
NM
You misinterpreted the data. In van Zwoll's video, he never said the .30-06 was the best elk cartridge or that it outperformed the 7mm mags. The exit polls quoted said that the .30-06 was most popular, not "BEST". Obama was the most popular, but the best?
Yes, they both work very well.
I won't quote you statistics, but I do believe both calibers would match up very closely. I believe you would find more "06's" though being used, if for no other reason than the caliber has been around a lot longer. A very versital and popular rifle and cartridge. I don't think you would go wrong with either rifle. I do believe very strongly that you should focus on shot placement. I hunt with a .270 Rem., the lowest on the recommended scale of calibers, and the rifle has served me very well. I have no desire to hunt with any other caliber. Recoil? Can't ever recall it being an issue while shooting at bulls ( but hate sighting it in, it just drills your shoulder! ) Shot placement on the vitals is key, and both of your mentioned calibers should work well.
Wayne van Zwoll's quote is,"It’s useful to note that the .300 Winchester pushes 180-grain bullets about as fast as the 7mm Remington drives 160s. There’s a much wider performance gap between this .300 and the .30-06 than between the 7mm Magnum and the .30-06. With a 175-grain bullet, the 7mm actually generates less velocity and energy than Hornady’s Light Magnum or Federal’s High Energy 180-grain .30-06 load! While the bigger belted case lets handloaders super-charge the magnum to outdo the ‘06, I’m convinced there is no task in the hunting field that the 7mm Remington Magnum can do better than a .30-06.
Mr. Van Zwoll has said thjat a 300 Win mag is a better elk cartridge than a 30-06, but an -06 is a more versatile cartridge. However every year at Elk Camp he conducts an exit pole on who shoots what and I think that every year since he started his surveys the 30-06 has been the most popular cartridge taken elk hunting.
There are some who argue that the 30 caliber is "better" than the 7mms for elk hunting due to its greater diameter.
As has been mentioned before either will work well as will the 270, 7x57, the 308, 7mm-08, 280, 300 Win mag, and so on.
WAMtnhunter,
If you can believe the voting maps on the internet Obama did not win the popular vote so he is neither popular nor the best.
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Go to the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation's web site and check out the cartridge articles by Wayne van Zwoll. They are very similar in elk hunting loads and in the higher end -06 loads can out perform the 7mmMag. However it is all a numbers game. They both work very well and the elk don't know the difference.
NM
You misinterpreted the data. In van Zwoll's video, he never said the .30-06 was the best elk cartridge or that it outperformed the 7mm mags. The exit polls quoted said that the .30-06 was most popular, not "BEST". Obama was the most popular, but the best?
Yes, they both work very well.
I won't quote you statistics, but I do believe both calibers would match up very closely. I believe you would find more "06's" though being used, if for no other reason than the caliber has been around a lot longer. A very versital and popular rifle and cartridge. I don't think you would go wrong with either rifle. I do believe very strongly that you should focus on shot placement. I hunt with a .270 Rem., the lowest on the recommended scale of calibers, and the rifle has served me very well. I have no desire to hunt with any other caliber. Recoil? Can't ever recall it being an issue while shooting at bulls ( but hate sighting it in, it just drills your shoulder! ) Shot placement on the vitals is key, and both of your mentioned calibers should work well.
Wayne van Zwoll's quote is,"It’s useful to note that the .300 Winchester pushes 180-grain bullets about as fast as the 7mm Remington drives 160s. There’s a much wider performance gap between this .300 and the .30-06 than between the 7mm Magnum and the .30-06. With a 175-grain bullet, the 7mm actually generates less velocity and energy than Hornady’s Light Magnum or Federal’s High Energy 180-grain .30-06 load! While the bigger belted case lets handloaders super-charge the magnum to outdo the ‘06, I’m convinced there is no task in the hunting field that the 7mm Remington Magnum can do better than a .30-06.
Mr. Van Zwoll has said thjat a 300 Win mag is a better elk cartridge than a 30-06, but an -06 is a more versatile cartridge. However every year at Elk Camp he conducts an exit pole on who shoots what and I think that every year since he started his surveys the 30-06 has been the most popular cartridge taken elk hunting.
There are some who argue that the 30 caliber is "better" than the 7mms for elk hunting due to its greater diameter.
As has been mentioned before either will work well as will the 270, 7x57, the 308, 7mm-08, 280, 300 Win mag, and so on.
WAMtnhunter,
If you can believe the voting maps on the internet Obama did not win the popular vote so he is neither popular nor the best.
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