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Answers (16)
30-378 W.M or 7mm?
No. Not if they are under 500 yards. I love the 30-378 but it is really a very long range big game rifle. If you have to shoot big hogs at ranges around 500 yards and beyond, it is an excellent choice. It is big time overkill for most hog hunting though. Most hog hunting is in very dense cover so you don't typically get that kind of range.
A .308 class rifle is plenty for most hog hunting and just about any rifle around that energy range will be fine. Lots of hogs go between 200 and 300 pounds or more and the shield on such a boar's chest has been known to stop a .270 bullet dead. I recommend something around the .308 energy level if you are hunting on foot. If you are hunting from a stand, you can shoot them under the ear with about anything. On foot you need to be able to stop a charging boar head on.
I shot a 125 pound boar with my .257 Weatherby Mag with 117 round nose bullets on the shoulder and it barely made it through to the vitals. I wouldn't hestitate using the same gun again but using a bonded bullet bullet that will penetrate better. I would probably use my 300WSM shooting my 165 Nosler Accubond load instead. That was my first experience and I found out that they are tough.
Sarge, I'll bet that bullet planted the boar though didn't it?
I agree with Dakota, the 30-378 is overkill. I don't profess to being a hog expert, but here are my results with these critters. Here in States, taken a half dozen with a 22-250, this is too light but I was varmit hunting each time I ran into the hogs. They all went down to the first shot. In Texas took several with a 30-338, all one shot kills. Mexico, a couple of javelina with a 300 Win Mag. In Africa two Giant Forest Hogs one with a 375, the other with a 416 Rigby as I recall. Two Red River Hogs, one with 300 Win Mag, one with a 416. Two bush pig with the 300. Have no idea how many wart hogs, but used everything from an 06, various 300s, a 7mm Mag, 375, and a 300 Rem Ultra. The only one that took more than one shot was when I was using the 300 Rem Ultra Mag. Think that took three rounds. Ranges 80 to 200 yards
Have never hunted them with purpose
DakotaMan,
Dropped like he was hit with a ton of bricks.
Go for it! The big .30-378 Wby will kill it, dress it and have it ready for some pulled pork sammiches.
What about deer?
Question is, can you hit with it and get the next shot off quickly and accurately
You can use it on most anything on this continent if you want to. DakotaMan makes a good point though, a lot of the hog hunting I've done has been pretty close range work.
The .30-378 is overkill on deer too. Don't get me wrong, if you already have a .30-378 you can sure use it on anything in North America from prairie dogs to big bear and it will do the job. I just don't recommend pouring a quarter cup of powder into a $3.00 case with a .75 cent bullet just to pop a deer at 40 yards when a .30-.30 does the job just fine. Now if the deer are 700 yards, the .30-378 comes into play.
Ain't nothing like having enough gun, although, the .30/378 may be a bit much,,,, I'm thinking for deer and hogs something like a 7mm/08.
Yes, but use bonded bullets nosler partition, accubond etc. I took my buddy whitetail hunting as he has never shot a whitetail. He doesn't own any small calibers (trying to convince him)
I spoted a nice whitetail at about 180 ish, and as I instructed, he hit the deer broadside, double lung.
tasty deer and since it was a whitetail DRT!
I'm not sure if I'd trust a .308 if this particular hog's shield is stopping .270 Winchester bullets. The .270 has about the same energy, and the bullets have as good or better sectional densities.
Way over kill. Considering hogs can be and are killed with air rifles. .22/250 drops them as well as a host of other calibers. You have to chose the weapon for the job. Everybody wants to overkill everything they shoot. That just shows that you are not profiecent with what you are using. Better too much gun then making the proper shot theory. Sorry if I am stepping on some toes.But the facts speak for themself. Know your weapon and use it accordingly and you'll never use more weapon then you need to. It's not better to be over gunned then it is to be properly gunned. You don't throw granades at doves and more then you have to use a howitzer on a deer. I'm not saying use a .177 pellet gun on a caribou, I am saying use what you need,not what public oppinion thinks is necessary. KNOW YOUR INTENDED TARGET and YOUR NEEDS to SUCCESSFULLY HARVEST IT>Not blow it into little pieces
Hogs can be killed with an air rifle with a perfect shot but if you are saying that they along with the small calibers are proper hog rifles you are blowing smoke. I know alot of deer have been killed with a .22 rifle but if someone thinks a .22 rifle is a deer rifle I would like to have some of whatever they are smoking, because it must be good stuff. I don't use marginal calibers for big game I use enough gun ,not canons, but enough gun for a clean, quick, ethical kill, something that we should all strive for. David killed Golith(sp) with a small stone out of a slingshot but I am not that proficient yet.
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I agree with Dakota, the 30-378 is overkill. I don't profess to being a hog expert, but here are my results with these critters. Here in States, taken a half dozen with a 22-250, this is too light but I was varmit hunting each time I ran into the hogs. They all went down to the first shot. In Texas took several with a 30-338, all one shot kills. Mexico, a couple of javelina with a 300 Win Mag. In Africa two Giant Forest Hogs one with a 375, the other with a 416 Rigby as I recall. Two Red River Hogs, one with 300 Win Mag, one with a 416. Two bush pig with the 300. Have no idea how many wart hogs, but used everything from an 06, various 300s, a 7mm Mag, 375, and a 300 Rem Ultra. The only one that took more than one shot was when I was using the 300 Rem Ultra Mag. Think that took three rounds. Ranges 80 to 200 yards
Have never hunted them with purpose
No. Not if they are under 500 yards. I love the 30-378 but it is really a very long range big game rifle. If you have to shoot big hogs at ranges around 500 yards and beyond, it is an excellent choice. It is big time overkill for most hog hunting though. Most hog hunting is in very dense cover so you don't typically get that kind of range.
A .308 class rifle is plenty for most hog hunting and just about any rifle around that energy range will be fine. Lots of hogs go between 200 and 300 pounds or more and the shield on such a boar's chest has been known to stop a .270 bullet dead. I recommend something around the .308 energy level if you are hunting on foot. If you are hunting from a stand, you can shoot them under the ear with about anything. On foot you need to be able to stop a charging boar head on.
Go for it! The big .30-378 Wby will kill it, dress it and have it ready for some pulled pork sammiches.
DakotaMan,
Dropped like he was hit with a ton of bricks.
30-378 W.M or 7mm?
I shot a 125 pound boar with my .257 Weatherby Mag with 117 round nose bullets on the shoulder and it barely made it through to the vitals. I wouldn't hestitate using the same gun again but using a bonded bullet bullet that will penetrate better. I would probably use my 300WSM shooting my 165 Nosler Accubond load instead. That was my first experience and I found out that they are tough.
Sarge, I'll bet that bullet planted the boar though didn't it?
What about deer?
Question is, can you hit with it and get the next shot off quickly and accurately
You can use it on most anything on this continent if you want to. DakotaMan makes a good point though, a lot of the hog hunting I've done has been pretty close range work.
The .30-378 is overkill on deer too. Don't get me wrong, if you already have a .30-378 you can sure use it on anything in North America from prairie dogs to big bear and it will do the job. I just don't recommend pouring a quarter cup of powder into a $3.00 case with a .75 cent bullet just to pop a deer at 40 yards when a .30-.30 does the job just fine. Now if the deer are 700 yards, the .30-378 comes into play.
Ain't nothing like having enough gun, although, the .30/378 may be a bit much,,,, I'm thinking for deer and hogs something like a 7mm/08.
Yes, but use bonded bullets nosler partition, accubond etc. I took my buddy whitetail hunting as he has never shot a whitetail. He doesn't own any small calibers (trying to convince him)
I spoted a nice whitetail at about 180 ish, and as I instructed, he hit the deer broadside, double lung.
tasty deer and since it was a whitetail DRT!
I'm not sure if I'd trust a .308 if this particular hog's shield is stopping .270 Winchester bullets. The .270 has about the same energy, and the bullets have as good or better sectional densities.
Way over kill. Considering hogs can be and are killed with air rifles. .22/250 drops them as well as a host of other calibers. You have to chose the weapon for the job. Everybody wants to overkill everything they shoot. That just shows that you are not profiecent with what you are using. Better too much gun then making the proper shot theory. Sorry if I am stepping on some toes.But the facts speak for themself. Know your weapon and use it accordingly and you'll never use more weapon then you need to. It's not better to be over gunned then it is to be properly gunned. You don't throw granades at doves and more then you have to use a howitzer on a deer. I'm not saying use a .177 pellet gun on a caribou, I am saying use what you need,not what public oppinion thinks is necessary. KNOW YOUR INTENDED TARGET and YOUR NEEDS to SUCCESSFULLY HARVEST IT>Not blow it into little pieces
Hogs can be killed with an air rifle with a perfect shot but if you are saying that they along with the small calibers are proper hog rifles you are blowing smoke. I know alot of deer have been killed with a .22 rifle but if someone thinks a .22 rifle is a deer rifle I would like to have some of whatever they are smoking, because it must be good stuff. I don't use marginal calibers for big game I use enough gun ,not canons, but enough gun for a clean, quick, ethical kill, something that we should all strive for. David killed Golith(sp) with a small stone out of a slingshot but I am not that proficient yet.
Post an Answer