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Question by HunterDue. Uploaded on February 10, 2010
Its a little light for moose, but it will do. As for the elk that wold be a perfect set-up. Nothing really too big for moose, I know a guy whot had to shoot his moose in british columbia six times with a .338
Plenty gun,plenty of lead just put the bullet in pocket behind the shoulder and another one for the sake uf it.Use a good bullet that is going to penetrate Nosler Partition you don't want the bullet to fold up on a rib or shoulder blade.
Good luck on your hunt.
good for you, bad for the elk or the moose
It will do if you hit the central nervous system, preferable in front of the shoulder. That severs the nerves that go to the heart and diaphragm.
Using a good, well constructd bullet like a Barnes TSX, Nosler Accubond or Partition or Swift product it will do fine. Keep you bullets in the vitals as you would do for any other big game animal.
Good for elk, pushing it for moose
But , still trying to be helpful, I might add...
If you were really poverty stricken and hungry, you wouldn't be here.
It is also irresponsible, as the chances of the animal getting away are overwhelming.
Most people who hunt Big Game in the Rockies, where they Need The Meat and are poor only have one rifle, and it is a 7mm Remington Magnum.
Others like the .338 Win.
Also commonplace are the .375 Holland and the .458 Win Mag.
They shoot all species with One Rifle.
You think the ammo is too expensive?
Is a deer or elk worth $1.50?
All agree that you can eat right up to the hole.
I hunted elk with a .308 Win when I was even more destitute than I am today. With the fine bullets available today, it is fine. From what I have heard, a moose is not as tough to kill as an elk. Just keep your shots inside the 300 yard line and you will have a better chance of hitting vitals and all will drop dead if you take out heart or lungs.
absolutely, use a good bullet. i would go with the barnes tsx. the 308 is my favortite hunting round. obviously its not going to be a long range elk and moose getter but choose a good bullet and ask the bullet manufacturer what ranges they would recommend. did i mention i like the Barnes tsx!!!
I don't see how it is marginal for moose, I would reckon that in the canadian east it is one of the most popular, along with the .30-06. Kinda depends where you are hunting but I think that most people are only taking shots inside of 150-200 yards. and often less
good for you, bad for the elk or the moose and a +1 for you!
It will do just fine despite what the armchair experts say!
Lived in Alaska for 4 years and nobody didn't have any problem with a 308 or a 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet. In fact, my backup gun is a 30-06! Alaska Natives use 30-30 with 170 grain bullets so go figure!
Best BANG FLOP I witnessed was a Teenager with a 30-06 using over the counter 180 grain Remington Core-Lokt®. As one blogger said, all you need is something to let the air out!
You herd right, Moose is not near as hard to put down as Elk!
BEEN DAR AND DUN DAT ON MOOSE!
By the way, 180 grain is the heaviest I would go and Beekeeper is dead on right "Using a good, well constructed bullet like a Barnes TSX, Nosler Accubond or Partition or Swift product it will do just fine"!
Antelope, Caribou and Moose I put into the same category, they are easy to put down.
Jack Rabbits,Elk and that what eats you is another matter! They can take one hell of a punishment if not hit right!!
The average shot is less than 150, more like 75 yards pending on the terrain and a +1 for you!
Not putting anybody down, but there is another consideration, at least in The West.
Cougars and bears.
You don't even have to go hunting to be hunted.
Ya gotta have something that will drop them right now.
Something that produces a lot of shock and lets out a lot of blood.
It's not like you are going into a beautiful area like you see in Field and Stream, espy some desired animal that presents the perfect opportunity, and you calmly set up an easy shot and hit a vital area.
I can quickly cite two f'rinstances.
My former employer's son was out in his yard playing with his Yellow Lab and a 180-lb Cougar walked up and decided to peel the Labrador instead of the Kid.
That critter was moving so fast that there was no opportunity for leisurely pot shots.
Shoot a cat like that with a peashooter like a .308, and you're dead.
A shotgun with buckshot did the trick.
The dog actually survived being peeled like a banana.
The kid was airlifted out in shock.
One of my neighbors (a Native American) was sitting so quietly in the woods and a Cougar Mom was teaching her yearling offspring to hunt.
So they ended up hunting him.
This guy's got cojones maximus, so he just sits there.
He ended up shooting her in mid-leap with a large-bore rifle and she dropped at his feet.
A 150-lb fighting machine with a cub.
I must say that I am speaking for this region only, but here it is often kill or be killed, independent of bullet technologies.
There is no substitute for 1/2 m*vee squared.
Ya gotta have the kinetic energy.
And make a big hole.
If somebody's got to ask, They're not going to shoot like you anyway.
There's no way you are going to stop ol' Griz if he catches you off guard, and those are his woods anyway.
My last rifle was a Sako Hunter .375 H, strongly recommended by the dealer for safety reasons.
The next will be a T/C Pro Hunter of the same caliber.
To ignore these considerations just to prove your own arguments, and go into the forest here unprepared will earn you your Sign, posthumusly.
One thing and it's one of the most important things to know before you pull that trigger and it's one of the most biggest mistake Elk and especially Moose hunters are guilty of.
HOW IN THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT OUT!
Better have that game plan before you pull that trigger! Hauling a Moose out is more than packing a Clydesdale Horse! I've packed a many out and it's no pick nick!
I beg to differ. Cougars are not hard to kill. Most guides use a handgun or saddle rifle, not big magnums. A .308 with a 180 grain bullet will kill anything you encounter at self defense range. really PO'd griz might be the exception, but if hit right he'll expire too.
A .308 is fine. some people are tending to forget that people kill moose and elk each year with bow and arrow... a .308 has a lot more knock down than a bow donthca think? and the concern about bear geting you while your out? again people kill bears with a bow and arrow every year shot placement is the #1 most important aspect use a quality bullet make a good shot.
Clay Cooper -
The following is not for you!
Yeah, Yeah, Right.
The remarks I have made have nothing to do with ego, but are indisputable and based upon fact.
As idiots, ye have been suckered in.
This appears to be too similar to psychological experiments in which I participated at College some 40 years ago.
The question is: "How far will know-nothing bullshi**ers go to get something vaguely represented and not necessarily of any value when they have absolutely no experience and know nothing of the subject matter?
What tactics do they use to get something for free?
It is not only my opinion that these creatures have never hunted anything more challenging or more ferocious than points on Field and Stream.
Furthermore, I doubt that they have ever been off the sidewalk!.
Unfortunately, they represent an ever-growing (already-significant) percentage of our population.
I have too much education and experience to imagine otherwise.
You must realize that you are a joke to the editors of Field and Stream.
Do you even know anybody who has ever been given any gear?
It bothers me not, as I am a student of psychology, and it is clear what you are doing.
I feel sorry for you, for one-tenth of a second.
That cannot possibly deter me from coming to this website, as I love the photography and the big titties.
It's as good as you'll get in that caliber.
The .308 is MORE than enough gun for all subspecies of moose with the exception of the alaska/yukon strain.
exception of the alaska/yukon strain?
How you figure
for 4 years I watched individuals with M1A'a and demilitarized M14' s dropem with one shot, bolt guns in 308 too!
The .308 is MORE than enough gun for all subspecies of moose with the exception of the alaska/yukon strain?
I got to raise the BS flag on this one!
Ridiculous. "that caliber" being .308. You must be from another planet. Go lookup the load data on a Weatherby .30-378. Had one of those. It was a US-built Mark V magnum CNC-style. Precision-made. I've owned everything worth having, including a .308! But there's a proper tool for every job. That would be like trying to remove lug nuts with Robo-Grip. Anybody who would shoot a moose with a .308 oughta be keelhauled under a forklift. The .30-308 is the scrawniest thing I would shoot one with, and it's positively nuclear compared to a .308.
I feel so disgusted by all this bullshi**ing that I'm tempted to leave this column to the devices of the providers of misinformation.
But I just can't.
But I see the game clearly.
There is a small group of perhaps 6 or 8 who probably live in a homeless shelter.
One will ask a question that really doesn't make any sense, and the others will immediately chime in with near-carbon-copies of the same nonsensical answer.
Reminds me of Mardi Gras, with crowds of people trying to get the attention of the ones on the floats throwing trinkets.
Then fighting over what's thrown in the gutter, in the mud, the blood, and the beer!
I had to give'ya a +1
Anyplace you go, you're going to have "Armchair Experts"!
Besides, the difference between a 308 and a 30-06 is 150 fps or about 60 or so yards
Sorry man, I got to raise the BS Flag on you.
Been Dar Seen Dat!
308 is no punk!
if people can kill moose that weigh in at nearly a ton with a .308, then i think that people could kill a mountain lion that is 1/10 that size. i can kill 50 lb bobcats with a 22 mag. i think i can kill something that only weighs 100 more lbs than that with a .308!
plus 1 for clay cooper
Let see if I can get this right. I lived in Alaska for 4 years, Range Master and assisting shooters with their equipment for the busiest range in the State, Director for High Power Competition for the largest Sportsmen Club in the State Tanana Valley Sportsmen Association, constant contact with Wildlife Biologists just to name a few while I was in Alaska and some ignorant individual or individuals trying to tell me what!
308 for Elk and Moose, I wouldn't give it a second thought BACK STRAP IS ON THE TABLE, THE BROWN IS DOWN!
The #1 problem of using a Magnums, the average shot is less than 175 yards, more like 100 yards. Because the bullet is pushed at hypervelocity which is over the maximum performance of the bullet, the bullet explodes and doesn't reach optimal penetration. The 308 at this distance, the bullet is at it's peak performance!
Dbetzner a +1 for you!
Cougars, A fella shot one in New Mexico with a Savage Model 99 308 with a 150 grain bullet. The exit hole was a good 5 inches in diameter blowing the shoulder clean out!
clay cooper, does hornady make any good elk bullets for .308 and should i use controlled expansion bullets?
Blast... I'm tempted to both agree with and not with Clay on this, but it's more of a personal comfort level than technical.
I personally, to cover a wider range of circumstance, would feel more comfy with a .30-06.
Like said, there's nice, optimum loads for both. When I first began reloading these, I was confused why there were so many same loads. While 42 gr. 4064 with a 150 gr. boattail was a pretty nice .308, it seemed a bit light for a decent .30-06.
On the other hand... heavy loads for the .30-06 don't have much different effect until you get out of the "comfort zone" for .308. And that could be farther than, as Clay says, than you could cleanly hit MOP with.
Oh, snap. What's my point again?
i wouldnt use a .308 for alaskan moose, but if it was in the states then maybe i would. but ive seen moose shot 4 or 5 times in the lungs with a .308 before they went down.
A 180 pound couger? That would take every record book known to man hell 150 is a big cat, and I know people that shoot them with .223s and 44s a 308 would be plenty of gun for that situation. Plus it would work fine for elk and moose but I would choose a 165grain instead of the 180.
A +1 for you!
With the new bullet technology allows the shooter to use lighter bullets for increased range with overwhelming knock down Superior to the bullets of yesterday. With today's technology, what was the 200-250 yards barrier is now out to 350-400 yards!
I've witnessed several time watch Moose hunters on a far ridge empty there gun 3 times with a 375 H&H including 460 Weatherby Magnum and still run off. Fortunately for them being on the far ridge, I was able to watch were the Bull finally dropped.
Anyone who thinks that an African plains game caliber is requied to kill moose and elk is clearly delusional. Pick one of your persona's and stick with it ....
50 pound bobcat, eh? Might just need a magnum. Congrats on your world record bobcat.
it had just ate....haha
it was 35 pounds still a big bobcat
Use a bonded bulet & maby a hot load...It will die the same as the rest...308 is fine.
the 30-30 and 303 probably killed more moose than anything so the .308 is more than plenty
use nosher partition 165-180 grain premium loads
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