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I went deer hunting yesterday in the afternoon. The hunt was going great I saw 6point and a doe with white on her side.Then a huge doe (about 200lbs)came out 400yds away and was coming at me fast I got my bow ready and she came to 41yds but I couldn't get a shot untill she was at 36yds. She was walking fast so I did a "murrp" she stopped and I shot , when I let the arrow fly she ducked and it went a inch over her back!I know I had it on her heart ,I didn't jerk, so how do you stop them from ducking? It was very still out , should I not stop them before I shoot? This was the first deer I missed, hopefully the last!!
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You should always stop them before shooting. A bow shot on a moving target is too risky. How did you determine the distance? by pacing it off or a rangefinder? If it's uphill or downhill it may be shorter than that. which would explain the high shot. Or maybe your pin was on the vitals but your shooting form was a bit off. At least it was a clean miss.
She string jumped ya, She heard the bow shoot and was able to duck. Could be she was on high alert after your "mrrrrp" or your bow may off made more noise tha it should. See if there is something on your bow that needs quieting/tighting. A noisy arrow rest, a loose quiver or a loose screw anywhere will cause noise. I have dampners everwhere I ccan stick one on my already quiet Mathews. Limbsavers, doinker stabilizer, harmonic dqampers in my sight, all of these really help put the hush on my shots.
I agree with Cgull 100%
Quiet your bow and don't take shots over 30 yards.
Also,
Many times if the deer is alert and ready to bolt it's advisable not to take the shot at all.
the longer the range the more of a chance the deer will react to the bow on the release i agree with the others try and quiten down your bow as much as possible i dont shoot with my quiver attached that eliminates one less thing that will vibrate yes i would stop a deer before i shot but remember the further the shot then theres more of a chance the deer will sqaut before the arrow gets there i try and aim just a bit low when the shot is 30 or more yards it works for me good luck and maybe you want miss again.
Ive had deer Jump or Duck the arrow before by a good foot and a noisy bow is the main culprit. quite it down and let the deer calm down before you shoot. If in doubt dont shoot. A good clean miss is the best you could have hoped for.
She was not alert untill I stopped her, I ranged it with a rangefinder and I sighted in from a tree stand.I know to wait untill they stop but should I not stop them myself but wait for them to stop? I can shoot out to 45yds but I don't take shots over 30 unless I am hunting a field where I have a clear shot even then I don't shoot past 40.
I read somewhere that deer can drop a full body width when spooked. Stay quiet, keep within your effective range, hold a bit low.
it was probably the string noise. yes the mrrp put her on high alert. deer can drop very fast. i might have waited for her to stop on her own so she woulnt be on alert as high as she was. its just one miss so try to learn from any mistakes made and you may never miss again
You should make sure bow is ULTRA-QUIET and try "lower" shot to compensate for the "jump", ya' might miss, but it will be a clean miss. If she does "jump" it might help you out.
As for the miss, it happens ! If taking animals was easy even PETA would want to do it !(lol).
Good Luck and Good Hunting !
Do some indoors shots at a range to see if you can hear what she heard. Try new string silencers. I use the tarantulas and they work great. Make sure when you test shoot you have on all your hunting gear, jacket gloves, quiver etc. Dress up just like you were in the woods. Could be your bow string hittin the cuff of your jacket! I know cause I have had that happen before. makes a loud pop! I wear a soft forearm guard now just to keep the jacket tight. Good luck
I stopped stopping deer with my mouth a long time ago. I put scent on the trail. They will always stop to take a sniff. Or when you put up your stand configure the trail so the deer is quartering away on the shot. Last resort is to make a noise and alert the deer.
36 yards is a long shot on a live deer...limit your range a little more so the deer have less time to react.
I had a doe catch me drawing my bow opening day...she would have jumped the string for sure if I wasn't only 15 yards away. The arrow spined her when she "ducked" and she dropped on the spot. I put an additional arrow through the boiler room to ensure she wasn't getting up.
Great breakdown by Cgull, and BioGuy's got a good tip there. It's not a matter of accuracy: the longer the shot, the more time for the animal to move after the arrow leaves the string.
One of the reasons I have zero interest in archery, since a bullet will get there before the sound.
i wait a second longer as just like when you are scared your body takes a second to calm down let her settle she should stay standing and allow you to take a not moving shot also aim a little lower. deer rarely jump up when shot at and it takes them longer to go up then down there is still a lot of vital space to aim at.
They will spook at a string twang but if she ducked the arrow she was probably looking at you after you made the sound. Deer are quick and can dodge an arrow they see from about 10 yards away. Wish they could play shortstop. I always avoid shooting at a deer if it is looking my way... you are just wasting a shot and often you will hit them in a non-vital area as they try to dodge the arrow. I don't mind shooting them on the move as long as they are just walking rather than uttering a sound they could home in on.
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She string jumped ya, She heard the bow shoot and was able to duck. Could be she was on high alert after your "mrrrrp" or your bow may off made more noise tha it should. See if there is something on your bow that needs quieting/tighting. A noisy arrow rest, a loose quiver or a loose screw anywhere will cause noise. I have dampners everwhere I ccan stick one on my already quiet Mathews. Limbsavers, doinker stabilizer, harmonic dqampers in my sight, all of these really help put the hush on my shots.
I agree with Cgull 100%
You should always stop them before shooting. A bow shot on a moving target is too risky. How did you determine the distance? by pacing it off or a rangefinder? If it's uphill or downhill it may be shorter than that. which would explain the high shot. Or maybe your pin was on the vitals but your shooting form was a bit off. At least it was a clean miss.
Also,
Many times if the deer is alert and ready to bolt it's advisable not to take the shot at all.
the longer the range the more of a chance the deer will react to the bow on the release i agree with the others try and quiten down your bow as much as possible i dont shoot with my quiver attached that eliminates one less thing that will vibrate yes i would stop a deer before i shot but remember the further the shot then theres more of a chance the deer will sqaut before the arrow gets there i try and aim just a bit low when the shot is 30 or more yards it works for me good luck and maybe you want miss again.
Ive had deer Jump or Duck the arrow before by a good foot and a noisy bow is the main culprit. quite it down and let the deer calm down before you shoot. If in doubt dont shoot. A good clean miss is the best you could have hoped for.
I read somewhere that deer can drop a full body width when spooked. Stay quiet, keep within your effective range, hold a bit low.
it was probably the string noise. yes the mrrp put her on high alert. deer can drop very fast. i might have waited for her to stop on her own so she woulnt be on alert as high as she was. its just one miss so try to learn from any mistakes made and you may never miss again
You should make sure bow is ULTRA-QUIET and try "lower" shot to compensate for the "jump", ya' might miss, but it will be a clean miss. If she does "jump" it might help you out.
As for the miss, it happens ! If taking animals was easy even PETA would want to do it !(lol).
Good Luck and Good Hunting !
Quiet your bow and don't take shots over 30 yards.
She was not alert untill I stopped her, I ranged it with a rangefinder and I sighted in from a tree stand.I know to wait untill they stop but should I not stop them myself but wait for them to stop? I can shoot out to 45yds but I don't take shots over 30 unless I am hunting a field where I have a clear shot even then I don't shoot past 40.
36 yards is a long shot on a live deer...limit your range a little more so the deer have less time to react.
I had a doe catch me drawing my bow opening day...she would have jumped the string for sure if I wasn't only 15 yards away. The arrow spined her when she "ducked" and she dropped on the spot. I put an additional arrow through the boiler room to ensure she wasn't getting up.
Do some indoors shots at a range to see if you can hear what she heard. Try new string silencers. I use the tarantulas and they work great. Make sure when you test shoot you have on all your hunting gear, jacket gloves, quiver etc. Dress up just like you were in the woods. Could be your bow string hittin the cuff of your jacket! I know cause I have had that happen before. makes a loud pop! I wear a soft forearm guard now just to keep the jacket tight. Good luck
I stopped stopping deer with my mouth a long time ago. I put scent on the trail. They will always stop to take a sniff. Or when you put up your stand configure the trail so the deer is quartering away on the shot. Last resort is to make a noise and alert the deer.
Great breakdown by Cgull, and BioGuy's got a good tip there. It's not a matter of accuracy: the longer the shot, the more time for the animal to move after the arrow leaves the string.
One of the reasons I have zero interest in archery, since a bullet will get there before the sound.
i wait a second longer as just like when you are scared your body takes a second to calm down let her settle she should stay standing and allow you to take a not moving shot also aim a little lower. deer rarely jump up when shot at and it takes them longer to go up then down there is still a lot of vital space to aim at.
They will spook at a string twang but if she ducked the arrow she was probably looking at you after you made the sound. Deer are quick and can dodge an arrow they see from about 10 yards away. Wish they could play shortstop. I always avoid shooting at a deer if it is looking my way... you are just wasting a shot and often you will hit them in a non-vital area as they try to dodge the arrow. I don't mind shooting them on the move as long as they are just walking rather than uttering a sound they could home in on.
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