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No, It won't. Well managed timber harvesting promotes renewed habitat for both big and small game.
No it will not. In fact it will provide better habitat for the wildlife in the long run. It will allow some nice thick under growth to fill in where the logging has occurred and this will provide good cover and food.
Loggin helps hunting, it opens up the ground to sunlight and increases bedding and feeding areas. The drawbacks are it also opens more areas up to spotlight poaching and more and more loss of natural forest.
If your talking clear cutting, it might "ruin" it for a season if the new growth has not started before the season starts, but the following years it will be a deer magnet drawing them in for cover and food, along with providing cover for grouse and many other small game. If only more timber harvest was allowed on the National Forests, but lawsuits are ruining that.
Where I elk hunt, you can't see 30 yards in front of you. I depend on logging areas to actually get a shot. The elk are drawn to those areas because of the high amount of grass that grows in the logged areas. It is great for hunting and the animals.
PS-Logging is good in moderation.
Far as logging itself goes I agree with everyone, however, it’s obvious you guys haven’t been out in the National Forest much. Logging companies have been instructed to place barriers to prevent people to even have access to walk into areas. From special interest to the UN are trying to close our lands to prevent any access period. The Commercialization of National Forest and other Government owned land is taking over with the goal to prevent any and all access to the public. Time to wakeup Sportsfans!
O’the mindless gnomes believing everything is just fine while the politicians are pissing on everyone’s leg telling them it’s raining!
No. In fact it will help.
Takes the place of natural wildfires. What humans consider attractive - old growth forests - is not necessarily what wildlife seek out for food and shelter. Animals use the woods in every stage of maturity so we can not have just old growth. Our forests must be properly managed.
Aspen clearcuts support at least 40 different woodland creatures. Jack pine clearcuts are necessary to provide new growth for Kirkland warbler nesting. Deer appreciate it, too. To humans these clearcuts look like complete devastation, but to many animals it looks like a supermarket and neighborhood development project.
Problem is there has to be a market for the wood to pay for the cutting. Paper pulp is a key market for the aspens and jack pines. Ironic that there is so much pressure to reduce use of and recycle paper when we have stands of aspens and jack pines that need to be cut. Wait too long on the aspen and it transitions to hardwoods (maples and oaks) and we lose the aspen and the wildlife the young aspen support.
As a logger i can say no it wont hurt hunting . in fact it improves hunting in many ways ,the removal of large mature trees opens up the forest canopy so light can get to the ground and lets the under brush and new saplings ,As well as new grasses and berry bushes grow . providing food and cover for even the smallest animal as well as birds of prey in the forest. deer especially prefer brushy thickets to large stands of big timber. i live in the adirondack mountains of New York state where logging on state land is not allowed ( thanks to the adirondack park agency )and the forests are allowed to reach what is called climax forest , all mature trees and very little under growth . let me tell you the hunting sucks on state land compared to the tracts of privately owned and timber company land that is logged and managed for forestry . you can shoot a nice buck on state land around here but you might just go weeks with out seeing so much as a tail let alone a whole deer running through the woods . logged land around here is much better hunting than unlogged state land.
no logging will not hurt hunting, clear cutting wont even hurt hunting i has seen clear cuts hold deer most of he time the clear cut grows back so fast and thick i have seen clear cuts grow back in 2 years and be a perfect place for whitetail to bed down
Mindless Gnomes ALERT!
Last time I was in Alaska I was hauling crab pots in an inlet and couldn't help but notice that the mountains on one side were lush and green and just beautiful while the other side was grey and brown and dead. A local explained it. The lush side is First Nation Corporation (tribal) land that was clear cut and re-planted. The dead side was National Forest and by law has not been touched to keep it in its "natural" state. When they hear thunder on that mountain the locals check the wind to see if a lightning strike in that tinderbox will threaten their homes. Being a good steward of the land means using it wisely, not leaving it to rack and ruin. We take good care of our gardens by weeding and cultivating them, not by letting them go "natural".
Properly managed timber harvest improves habitat and browse for a variety of species including deer, elk, and grouse. There is little to eat underneath evergreen canopies. National Forests were not chartered to be a playground for ATV's and offroaders either. I have not seen issues where I live and play, but can't speak for every place. Maintained NFS roads provide good access to a lot of land around our parts.
I got the same response a couple of years ago from the ATV groups and look what happened to Ouachita and part of Ozark National Forest. It's interesting how narrow minded people can get and you Sportsfans will be squealing soon!
Logging will improve hunting, it's the politics behind it were the danger is at!
Not as badly as texting has ruined your ability to spell.
Logging got a bad rep back early in the last century when they were clear cutting without any reforestation plan. Now, it is such a good/big business, the land must be kept in production and the forest industry has learned to use the resource wisely. It is very beneficial to wildlife as many of the posters have stated and explained.
Deforestation is not logging, it is Walmarts and housing developments and parking lots and sports stadiums, ad infinitum. I like Sourdough Dave's post.
I had my property logged several years ago during deer season. I was in my treestand less than 200 yards from the skidder and chainsaws running and saw plenty of deer just browsing as if nothing was happening.
Maybe they can use the timber from the logging to manufacture some extra "g"s, which appear to be in short supply.
Logging will improve hunting but i have to say clay has some very good points in his frist statement .i have seen frist hand .and i must agree with him
No it won't hurt hunting.."Logging helps promotes the hunting property by providing more bed area for whitetails"!!!
Just another ghost character for the chief range monkey to stir up a rant! BUSTED!
CJ
i thought i was the only one thinking that
It actually improves it on ours cause it promotes new growth and it opens up the dense forest so you can see further, at least for a few years.
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No, It won't. Well managed timber harvesting promotes renewed habitat for both big and small game.
Loggin helps hunting, it opens up the ground to sunlight and increases bedding and feeding areas. The drawbacks are it also opens more areas up to spotlight poaching and more and more loss of natural forest.
No it will not. In fact it will provide better habitat for the wildlife in the long run. It will allow some nice thick under growth to fill in where the logging has occurred and this will provide good cover and food.
Last time I was in Alaska I was hauling crab pots in an inlet and couldn't help but notice that the mountains on one side were lush and green and just beautiful while the other side was grey and brown and dead. A local explained it. The lush side is First Nation Corporation (tribal) land that was clear cut and re-planted. The dead side was National Forest and by law has not been touched to keep it in its "natural" state. When they hear thunder on that mountain the locals check the wind to see if a lightning strike in that tinderbox will threaten their homes. Being a good steward of the land means using it wisely, not leaving it to rack and ruin. We take good care of our gardens by weeding and cultivating them, not by letting them go "natural".
Takes the place of natural wildfires. What humans consider attractive - old growth forests - is not necessarily what wildlife seek out for food and shelter. Animals use the woods in every stage of maturity so we can not have just old growth. Our forests must be properly managed.
Aspen clearcuts support at least 40 different woodland creatures. Jack pine clearcuts are necessary to provide new growth for Kirkland warbler nesting. Deer appreciate it, too. To humans these clearcuts look like complete devastation, but to many animals it looks like a supermarket and neighborhood development project.
Problem is there has to be a market for the wood to pay for the cutting. Paper pulp is a key market for the aspens and jack pines. Ironic that there is so much pressure to reduce use of and recycle paper when we have stands of aspens and jack pines that need to be cut. Wait too long on the aspen and it transitions to hardwoods (maples and oaks) and we lose the aspen and the wildlife the young aspen support.
If your talking clear cutting, it might "ruin" it for a season if the new growth has not started before the season starts, but the following years it will be a deer magnet drawing them in for cover and food, along with providing cover for grouse and many other small game. If only more timber harvest was allowed on the National Forests, but lawsuits are ruining that.
Where I elk hunt, you can't see 30 yards in front of you. I depend on logging areas to actually get a shot. The elk are drawn to those areas because of the high amount of grass that grows in the logged areas. It is great for hunting and the animals.
No. In fact it will help.
As a logger i can say no it wont hurt hunting . in fact it improves hunting in many ways ,the removal of large mature trees opens up the forest canopy so light can get to the ground and lets the under brush and new saplings ,As well as new grasses and berry bushes grow . providing food and cover for even the smallest animal as well as birds of prey in the forest. deer especially prefer brushy thickets to large stands of big timber. i live in the adirondack mountains of New York state where logging on state land is not allowed ( thanks to the adirondack park agency )and the forests are allowed to reach what is called climax forest , all mature trees and very little under growth . let me tell you the hunting sucks on state land compared to the tracts of privately owned and timber company land that is logged and managed for forestry . you can shoot a nice buck on state land around here but you might just go weeks with out seeing so much as a tail let alone a whole deer running through the woods . logged land around here is much better hunting than unlogged state land.
Not as badly as texting has ruined your ability to spell.
PS-Logging is good in moderation.
no logging will not hurt hunting, clear cutting wont even hurt hunting i has seen clear cuts hold deer most of he time the clear cut grows back so fast and thick i have seen clear cuts grow back in 2 years and be a perfect place for whitetail to bed down
Properly managed timber harvest improves habitat and browse for a variety of species including deer, elk, and grouse. There is little to eat underneath evergreen canopies. National Forests were not chartered to be a playground for ATV's and offroaders either. I have not seen issues where I live and play, but can't speak for every place. Maintained NFS roads provide good access to a lot of land around our parts.
Logging got a bad rep back early in the last century when they were clear cutting without any reforestation plan. Now, it is such a good/big business, the land must be kept in production and the forest industry has learned to use the resource wisely. It is very beneficial to wildlife as many of the posters have stated and explained.
Deforestation is not logging, it is Walmarts and housing developments and parking lots and sports stadiums, ad infinitum. I like Sourdough Dave's post.
Maybe they can use the timber from the logging to manufacture some extra "g"s, which appear to be in short supply.
Just another ghost character for the chief range monkey to stir up a rant! BUSTED!
It actually improves it on ours cause it promotes new growth and it opens up the dense forest so you can see further, at least for a few years.
Logging will improve hunting, it's the politics behind it were the danger is at!
I had my property logged several years ago during deer season. I was in my treestand less than 200 yards from the skidder and chainsaws running and saw plenty of deer just browsing as if nothing was happening.
Logging will improve hunting but i have to say clay has some very good points in his frist statement .i have seen frist hand .and i must agree with him
No it won't hurt hunting.."Logging helps promotes the hunting property by providing more bed area for whitetails"!!!
CJ
i thought i was the only one thinking that
Far as logging itself goes I agree with everyone, however, it’s obvious you guys haven’t been out in the National Forest much. Logging companies have been instructed to place barriers to prevent people to even have access to walk into areas. From special interest to the UN are trying to close our lands to prevent any access period. The Commercialization of National Forest and other Government owned land is taking over with the goal to prevent any and all access to the public. Time to wakeup Sportsfans!
O’the mindless gnomes believing everything is just fine while the politicians are pissing on everyone’s leg telling them it’s raining!
I got the same response a couple of years ago from the ATV groups and look what happened to Ouachita and part of Ozark National Forest. It's interesting how narrow minded people can get and you Sportsfans will be squealing soon!
Mindless Gnomes ALERT!
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