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i have a few qeustions about the .243 Q1: can it kill a bear?(i would use my 45/70 for bear hunting but around here if you see a bear its legal to shoot it in deer season) Q2:is it good for hunting backwoods and swamps? Q3:someone on a earlier question stated (quote) "the full potential of the .243 cannot be realized without a scope." is that true or is it still good without a scope (somtimes the deer are running or trotting and i cant get a running squirell in a scope let alone a much faster deer) Q4: does is shoot long range? thanks for helping

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from fng wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

depends what you mean by long. As a 300 yard deer or antelope gun, its great! anything bigger and its all shot placement. My dad killed 3 moose, 2 caribou and a 500 pound black bear sow with one, but he never used one for close range bear again. He shot her at 50 yards, she turned and got to 15 feet before dieing. However, all the kills were one shot. As to scopes, they help. Massively. Some relatives use iron sights at ridonculous ranges, but I prefer optics. And if you have to shoot a beer, in close, a .45-70 would definitely be my preferance.

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from Treestand wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

A little history on the 243Win it came out in 1955
for the ONE gun hunter at that time you had two bullits an 80gr and a 100gr, the 80gr for small game
and the 100gr for big game, it will take black bear
down but not recemended, I have a Win M-100 in 243W
scoped, I have taken a black bear (200Lb) and a ton of deer all one shot kills.

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from lefthandedshooter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

the 243 can take black bears down might not be recomended but my buddy got a medium sized one with his in 1 shot . theirs videos of people shooting their 243 at 900 yards . ive shot mine a 500 yards very accurately . you dont necessarily need a scope if you dont want one . the gun is good for swamps i shot a cople deer in the woods in thick stuff and thin. the 243 is a great caliber and its the top 4 most popular varmint cartridges and its the most versitle of the 4 cause you can take deer and bear with it to .

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from lefthandedshooter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

the 243 can take black bears down might not be recomended but my buddy got a medium sized one with his in 1 shot . theirs videos of people shooting their 243 at 900 yards . ive shot mine a 500 yards very accurately . you dont necessarily need a scope if you dont want one . the gun is good for swamps i shot a cople deer in the woods in thick stuff and thin. the 243 is a great caliber and its the top 4 most popular varmint cartridges and its the most versitle of the 4 cause you can take deer and bear with it to .

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from Hobob wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

Lots of guys use a bow on bears so you definately do the job. Its a very accurate rifle and that's what counts.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

The .243 has almost the same trajectory as the flat shooting .270. It is inch and a half high at 100 yds when zeroed for 200 yds and 7 1/2" low at 300 yds. That equates to a lung shot dead deer at 300 yds if you can hold on target with iron sights. If in your neck of the woods a 300 yard shot or even 200 yard shot will probably never be needed, then open sights will realize all the potential that is necessary from this excellent caliber without optics.

Deer react with fear when shot and run away. Some bears react with anger and may attack the threat (you) when wounded. I'd rather shoot a bear with your .45-70 than a .243.

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from lefthandedshooter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

sourdough dave if you put a good shot on it its going down for a bear . and if it was me by the time a bear got up my stand another shot would of been in the bear

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

There are bears and then there are bears. Yes, I suppose a 100 gr. .243 well placed would drop a little 200 pounder just fine. I responded from the perspective of our bears. Our bears hear a rifle report as a dinner bell and will come take your fresh killed elk for dinner and you for dessert. I've never hunted from a tree stand and don't expect that I ever will. When I meet up with our 700 -900 pound bears it will be up close and personal. My two encounters so far ended well with the bear leaving and both of us alive and well. If I keep tramping around in the mountains long enough one of these encounters will end badly, preferably for the bear.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

There are bears and then there are bears. Yes, I suppose a 100 gr. .243 well placed would drop a little 200 pounder just fine. I responded from the perspective of our bears. Our bears hear a rifle report as a dinner bell and will come take your fresh killed elk for dinner and you for dessert. I've never hunted from a tree stand and don't expect that I ever will. When I meet up with our 700 -900 pound bears it will be up close and personal. My two encounters so far ended well with the bear leaving and both of us alive and well. If I keep tramping around in the mountains long enough one of these encounters will end badly, preferably for the bear.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

Sorry for the double tap

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from lefthandedshooter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

o ok yea i sapose but in Minnesota . well milaca some one shot a 505 pound black bear and it was in the news paper and every thing its a big deal to shoot a bear that big . but if you got bears in the 200 to 300 yea it will be good. and like hobo people take bears with bows a 243 could do it . but me personally i wouldn't use a bow cause im a chicken

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from Crazyhunter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

It sounds like ur hunting in swamps so close range shots? 47-70 gov. will take stuff down.

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 3 years 26 weeks ago

.243 is a good deer caliber, and as far as black bear if you can take down a deer with it you can take down a black bear, but id rather use a bigger caliber on black bear, they can take alot of lead and keep on going, alot of guys in my bear camp shoot the 45/70, and the rest shoot slug guns. ive heard stories of black bears beeing hit with .300 win 4 times and keep going. key to black bears is taking out that front shoulder, stick with the 45/70. a scope is something i like on all of my rifles, learn to shoot it at close range and at running deer, its always good to have in case you have to reach out and touch something.

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from fng wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

depends what you mean by long. As a 300 yard deer or antelope gun, its great! anything bigger and its all shot placement. My dad killed 3 moose, 2 caribou and a 500 pound black bear sow with one, but he never used one for close range bear again. He shot her at 50 yards, she turned and got to 15 feet before dieing. However, all the kills were one shot. As to scopes, they help. Massively. Some relatives use iron sights at ridonculous ranges, but I prefer optics. And if you have to shoot a beer, in close, a .45-70 would definitely be my preferance.

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from Treestand wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

A little history on the 243Win it came out in 1955
for the ONE gun hunter at that time you had two bullits an 80gr and a 100gr, the 80gr for small game
and the 100gr for big game, it will take black bear
down but not recemended, I have a Win M-100 in 243W
scoped, I have taken a black bear (200Lb) and a ton of deer all one shot kills.

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from Hobob wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

Lots of guys use a bow on bears so you definately do the job. Its a very accurate rifle and that's what counts.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

The .243 has almost the same trajectory as the flat shooting .270. It is inch and a half high at 100 yds when zeroed for 200 yds and 7 1/2" low at 300 yds. That equates to a lung shot dead deer at 300 yds if you can hold on target with iron sights. If in your neck of the woods a 300 yard shot or even 200 yard shot will probably never be needed, then open sights will realize all the potential that is necessary from this excellent caliber without optics.

Deer react with fear when shot and run away. Some bears react with anger and may attack the threat (you) when wounded. I'd rather shoot a bear with your .45-70 than a .243.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

There are bears and then there are bears. Yes, I suppose a 100 gr. .243 well placed would drop a little 200 pounder just fine. I responded from the perspective of our bears. Our bears hear a rifle report as a dinner bell and will come take your fresh killed elk for dinner and you for dessert. I've never hunted from a tree stand and don't expect that I ever will. When I meet up with our 700 -900 pound bears it will be up close and personal. My two encounters so far ended well with the bear leaving and both of us alive and well. If I keep tramping around in the mountains long enough one of these encounters will end badly, preferably for the bear.

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from lefthandedshooter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

the 243 can take black bears down might not be recomended but my buddy got a medium sized one with his in 1 shot . theirs videos of people shooting their 243 at 900 yards . ive shot mine a 500 yards very accurately . you dont necessarily need a scope if you dont want one . the gun is good for swamps i shot a cople deer in the woods in thick stuff and thin. the 243 is a great caliber and its the top 4 most popular varmint cartridges and its the most versitle of the 4 cause you can take deer and bear with it to .

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from lefthandedshooter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

the 243 can take black bears down might not be recomended but my buddy got a medium sized one with his in 1 shot . theirs videos of people shooting their 243 at 900 yards . ive shot mine a 500 yards very accurately . you dont necessarily need a scope if you dont want one . the gun is good for swamps i shot a cople deer in the woods in thick stuff and thin. the 243 is a great caliber and its the top 4 most popular varmint cartridges and its the most versitle of the 4 cause you can take deer and bear with it to .

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from lefthandedshooter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

sourdough dave if you put a good shot on it its going down for a bear . and if it was me by the time a bear got up my stand another shot would of been in the bear

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

There are bears and then there are bears. Yes, I suppose a 100 gr. .243 well placed would drop a little 200 pounder just fine. I responded from the perspective of our bears. Our bears hear a rifle report as a dinner bell and will come take your fresh killed elk for dinner and you for dessert. I've never hunted from a tree stand and don't expect that I ever will. When I meet up with our 700 -900 pound bears it will be up close and personal. My two encounters so far ended well with the bear leaving and both of us alive and well. If I keep tramping around in the mountains long enough one of these encounters will end badly, preferably for the bear.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

Sorry for the double tap

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from lefthandedshooter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

o ok yea i sapose but in Minnesota . well milaca some one shot a 505 pound black bear and it was in the news paper and every thing its a big deal to shoot a bear that big . but if you got bears in the 200 to 300 yea it will be good. and like hobo people take bears with bows a 243 could do it . but me personally i wouldn't use a bow cause im a chicken

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from Crazyhunter wrote 3 years 27 weeks ago

It sounds like ur hunting in swamps so close range shots? 47-70 gov. will take stuff down.

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 3 years 26 weeks ago

.243 is a good deer caliber, and as far as black bear if you can take down a deer with it you can take down a black bear, but id rather use a bigger caliber on black bear, they can take alot of lead and keep on going, alot of guys in my bear camp shoot the 45/70, and the rest shoot slug guns. ive heard stories of black bears beeing hit with .300 win 4 times and keep going. key to black bears is taking out that front shoulder, stick with the 45/70. a scope is something i like on all of my rifles, learn to shoot it at close range and at running deer, its always good to have in case you have to reach out and touch something.

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