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Question by MNHUNTR. Uploaded on September 18, 2010
You answered your own question. 100 yards is beyond good buckshot range. If I was the DNR of a state full of you, I would ban it too.
Buckshot is an effective tool with in the 50 yard mark with some guns and a severe wounding tool much beyond that range. If anyone thinks that they can effectively kill deer at or about the 1oo yard mark they have not spent much time patterning their shotguns. Some people kill deer at long range on occasion with buckshot and this is pure luck. If they shoot at twenty deer at long range they will probably kill one, wound 10-11 and simply miss the rest.
new york state outlaws buckshot too. dosnt bother me any though bc i always go for the utmost in accuracy, which would be my saboted slugs. I wouldnt even waste my time with buckshot.
Buckshot is a deer crippler. It would be OK if everyone understood its limitations and used it wisely; but that is rarely the case nowdays. Each pellet hits more like a .22 long rifle bullet and therefore several of them have to hit vital areas. Even then, the heavy shoulder bones of a big MN buck can stop the pellets. Even with hits to vital areas, many deer shot with buckshot are never recovered because they can run a long ways after being hit by a few pellets. There is no reason to be crippling deer. I'm sure the MN DNR has too much respect for them to allow that.
Since the practice of hunting deer with dogs has diminished here, I hardly ever find deer with buckshot in them. Previously, it seemed that every other deer I cleaned had one or more buckshot cysted under the skin. Buckshot hasn't been outlawed here in AL, but has generally fallen into disuse and I think that's good. People tend to shoot at deer out of range with it.
valid points, with exceptions "sabots" are not the best, they may be the best for you, but not in all cases.
point one, if I was hunting extremely thick cover I would want 00buck in 3 inch for my pump. The range is 30yards, and UNDER.
point two, if I was in the above hunting grounds I would not be using a scope, it would point and shoot, and emtpy the rounds I have put into it, especially if it was the biggest buck or even a doe for that matter.
NOW I'm not talking slaughtering animals here, I'm just saying, that if I was in a hunting scenerio where 30 yards max was my distance in extreme cover, very thick, I would use 00bkshot. I know my gun, I know its distance with the shot I use.
I prefer a rifled barrel for a slug as well, but htat gun has its setting, yardage too.
I think 40 paces is stretching it with buckshot.
You're absolutely right. My long dead great uncle Roy never used anything in his life for deer except buckshot. His shotgun was a single bbl. 16 with a full choke. It was his only gun. He knew what his shotgun and paper shells of #1 buck were capable of and never tried to do more than it would do. Whenever Roy shot a deer it looked as though all of the pellets were within 10" in the chest. I dragged enough for him I should know! Roy never hunted from a tree but was very concerned with the prevailing breezes. He would typically pick a spot right off of a known trail and be patient. His shots were all under 25 yards. I guess the issue with buckshot today is that people want to make it into a rifle and don't realize, or don't care to know, that it is a short range article only.
Buckshot is a good HOME Defense round and not much more!
Sabot slugs are much more effective.
Buckshot serves a purpose in military combat where it doesn't matter much whether it kills or wounds enemy personnel.
Some of my dog hunting buds use #1buck at 30 to 40 paces here in Florida.
It has always been illegal to use buckshot to deer hunt in WV. After seeing what limitations buckshot has most of my officers carried slugs in their shotguns in their patrol vehicles. Inside a house is about the only use I see for buckshot.
Indiana has a ban on buckshot for deer hunting as well. mainly for the reason you stated people would try to use it out to far (ie 100yds) and there goes ethical hunting
Doc Holiday employed buckshot for what it is best at. Shooting someone who is trying to do the same to you.
you'd think with all this Hunter Education going on now, people would know what "shot" is and how it works
I have said it many times here and never saw agreement, the low velocity of the buckshot alone means it does not work at 100 yds without ridiculous adjustment. Those shot are dropping fast, it is not just the pattern density, although that's true too.
To many woundings because of the over-estimatating its capabilities. 25yds to 40rds max, I hunt with it every year on a piece of property(public)and if you can wait you won't have any problem. The folks I hunt with want to shoot slugs but they have no sights(or optics). Once they bag their game its,"It knocks them right down". TEXAS, yes I know they are small but we also slapped'em in MI. with no problem. Limitations ladies & gentlemen, limitations.
buckshot today is mainly used in the southern parts of the U.S. where we hunt deer with dogs.i have personally killed deer with #4 #3 and #oo buckshot.in the event of hunting with dogs in thick cover with close range i shoot #4 buck,farthest kiil with #4 2as 62 steps,in more open woods and swamps i like #3 buck when hunting with dogs my farthest kill with #3 was 50 steps.when stand or still hunting i like #00 in my benelli m1 super 90 with a mod choke i put 6 pellets in a paper plate at 50 yards and under thirty yards typically ten to all 15 #00 pellets in a paper plate.after shooting a lot of deer with #00 out to 60 yards i have lost one,however i believe i simply pulled and made a bad shot.95 percent of all deer i shoot with #00 out to 60 yards drop deader than a door nail.and as far as #00 buck not penetrating heavy minnesota bucks (haha) at thirty yards at least half of the shot will penetrat completely though both shoulders and usually several pellets will pass through both shoulders and out the other side.if you find a gun that patterns good,buckshot will out perform slugs and most rifles.there is nothing unethical about buckshot.just unethical northern fools.
I have a Remington Sps Super Mag purpose built to handle buck shot. The barrell has had the forcing cones modified, polished inside to a mirror finish. The choke tube has been port matched and I have abused my shoulder testing 100s of rounds of 3-1/2 inch magnum loads. With #4 Winchester Silver label #4 in 3-1/2 inch I have put an average of 8-10 pellets in the vital area of a 150# deer sihlouette target at 65 yards. I hunt with this gun frequently and have never lost an animal or had to trail one. All have been quick clean kills. I stick to my self imposed limit of 65 yards and take the same care with the rangefinder when shotgunning as when Im bow hunting. Any ethical hunter knows that a gun is a tool, and is only as good at doing the job as the man holding it.
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