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Currently Wisconsin DNR has, in the CWD zone, where a hunter can get 4 free tags a day and for every doe they shoot they can shoot a buck. What's everyones opinion on this? would you shoot more deer than you needed to just because you can or because you think if you don't the neighbor will?

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from neuman23 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

Personally, I shoot a doe and then maybe a buck depending on if a nice one comes by. I know people that shoot several deer, keep the meat from maybe one deer, because they can or have expressed concern for the neighbors shooting them. I think this is kind of a selfish way to go about hunting and is a quick way to decimate the population in the area......but I guess that is what the Wisconsin DNR wants.

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from DakotaMan wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

Although we can take over a dozen on our Georgia license, I as well as most other people just shoot what we intend to eat. Some donate a deer or two to homeless processing centers that have been set up by the state. Not too many people shoot all they can.

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from Hobob wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

No but here in PA they hired sharpshooters instead at Valley Forge which was really a waste. Could have been hunters doing it for free.

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from 99explorer wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

I don't like to question other hunters' motives, but I personally would not shoot a deer because of the thought that if I don't, somebody else will.
That's the kind of thinking that defeats QDM programs.

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from LAKEM0NSTER85 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

I agree with 99explorer, when given the opportunity, I wouldn't take more than what I needed for one year. I'm not all that familiar with deer hunting in Wisconsin, but sounds like they're trying to get control of that CWD problem.. I hope the biologists in WI know what they're doing.

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from shane wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

The thicker a population is the faster CWD spreads. The thinner the herd gets there the better. The choices are throw away conventional ethics in the area or let CWD spread. You wanna see a waste of deer? Go ahead. Don't kill any deer there.

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from LAKEM0NSTER85 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

neuman, are you guys allowed to eat the meat or they keeping it for testing? Personally, I don't think I'd try it.

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

That is the problem with public land hunting in the north people don't even let fawns or spikes go by because they suspect the nieghbor will shoot them and they won't have a deer. Its this hysteria that produces low numbers if you work with your nieghbors im sure they would agree to some form of QDM even if it is just not shooting more than the normal tags a doe and a buck per lisense (Gun/bow). I think the dnr has the CWD some what under control have you heard any confirmed cases there in awhile?

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from neuman23 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

The deer are completely fine to eat, so thats not an issue. I haven't been hearing of any increase in cases in a while...always going to have a few since the prions that cause the disease are very resistant. And as far as shooting lots of deer, the vast majority of people that do that, aren't doing it with the intention of stopping the spread of CWD.

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from neuman23 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

@ Lakemonsters - I do too, there is some great hunting right now in WI, but I don't know if that will last for long....

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from Treestand wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

DITTO!!Dakotman!
We to in Fl.have the same Donate a deer Centers across the state, what thay found out Horn-Hunters
Donate the most deer with NO Head? Mabe there frezzers are full of young doe meat.

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from mshibbins wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

I'd only shoot what I could use. Deer meat can be kept a long time, so I would shoot several deer and still eat them over time. But there is a limit I'd hit. I wouldn't shoot more than 4 or 5 total probably

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

I think that is their way of trying to get a handle on the CWD problem. We have a problem in a certain area but never went to that extreme to thin the herd. I don't know if it will help or not but their biologist must think that it will work. The meat is supposed to be okay to eat. All that is needed to test is the brain stem. Our biologist have been very lenient on killing does but haven't gotten that free with the bucks. As an Officer I helped kill the original samples and we killed some mature bucks because that is where CWD is most common believe it or not. I suppose that is why they are wanting bucks killed too.

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from Davin.Lopez wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

Hi all,

I am the head of the CWD program in Wisconsin. I just wanted to calrify a point made several times here. Although there has never been any known connection between eating CWD positive meat and human disease, the Center for Disease Control and other medical experts still advise against eating known CWD positive venison. Although the prions are concentrated in lymphoid tissue and the central nervous system, they are also in blood and meat, albeit at lower levels.

Also, most states, including WI usually test the lymph nodes not brain stem any more for CWD...easier to get and more resistant to degradation.

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from Davin.Lopez wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

For current CWD distribution in WI, see: http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/whealth/issues/CWD/maps.htm

We have not really been able to get drastic population reductions that would greatly affect disease profression thus far, so yes, in WI, CWD is still an issue and slowly increasing.

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from Davin.Lopez wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

meant progression, sorry

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

Davin,
When I retired 4 years ago we were still taking the brain stem. I guess things are changing all the time. Out department was telling people that the meat was okay to eat. We tested the whole state and so far only one county has anything positive. I don't think anyone knows really how it spreads or how fast, at least my biologist buddies say it is really still just a educated guess , but they have some very good ideas. Feeders have been banned and this may help because I think that when they are bunched up it makes it worse ,slobbering on the ground and the feed on the ground. Since I retired I have lost track of whats going on so I don't know if they are allowing deer to be transported from that county or not. For a long time no whole deer could be transported out of the county.

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from Hobob wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

No but here in PA they hired sharpshooters instead at Valley Forge which was really a waste. Could have been hunters doing it for free.

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from neuman23 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

Personally, I shoot a doe and then maybe a buck depending on if a nice one comes by. I know people that shoot several deer, keep the meat from maybe one deer, because they can or have expressed concern for the neighbors shooting them. I think this is kind of a selfish way to go about hunting and is a quick way to decimate the population in the area......but I guess that is what the Wisconsin DNR wants.

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from DakotaMan wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

Although we can take over a dozen on our Georgia license, I as well as most other people just shoot what we intend to eat. Some donate a deer or two to homeless processing centers that have been set up by the state. Not too many people shoot all they can.

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from 99explorer wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

I don't like to question other hunters' motives, but I personally would not shoot a deer because of the thought that if I don't, somebody else will.
That's the kind of thinking that defeats QDM programs.

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from LAKEM0NSTER85 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

I agree with 99explorer, when given the opportunity, I wouldn't take more than what I needed for one year. I'm not all that familiar with deer hunting in Wisconsin, but sounds like they're trying to get control of that CWD problem.. I hope the biologists in WI know what they're doing.

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from fliphuntr14 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

That is the problem with public land hunting in the north people don't even let fawns or spikes go by because they suspect the nieghbor will shoot them and they won't have a deer. Its this hysteria that produces low numbers if you work with your nieghbors im sure they would agree to some form of QDM even if it is just not shooting more than the normal tags a doe and a buck per lisense (Gun/bow). I think the dnr has the CWD some what under control have you heard any confirmed cases there in awhile?

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

I think that is their way of trying to get a handle on the CWD problem. We have a problem in a certain area but never went to that extreme to thin the herd. I don't know if it will help or not but their biologist must think that it will work. The meat is supposed to be okay to eat. All that is needed to test is the brain stem. Our biologist have been very lenient on killing does but haven't gotten that free with the bucks. As an Officer I helped kill the original samples and we killed some mature bucks because that is where CWD is most common believe it or not. I suppose that is why they are wanting bucks killed too.

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from shane wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

The thicker a population is the faster CWD spreads. The thinner the herd gets there the better. The choices are throw away conventional ethics in the area or let CWD spread. You wanna see a waste of deer? Go ahead. Don't kill any deer there.

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from LAKEM0NSTER85 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

neuman, are you guys allowed to eat the meat or they keeping it for testing? Personally, I don't think I'd try it.

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from neuman23 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

The deer are completely fine to eat, so thats not an issue. I haven't been hearing of any increase in cases in a while...always going to have a few since the prions that cause the disease are very resistant. And as far as shooting lots of deer, the vast majority of people that do that, aren't doing it with the intention of stopping the spread of CWD.

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from neuman23 wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

@ Lakemonsters - I do too, there is some great hunting right now in WI, but I don't know if that will last for long....

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from Treestand wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

DITTO!!Dakotman!
We to in Fl.have the same Donate a deer Centers across the state, what thay found out Horn-Hunters
Donate the most deer with NO Head? Mabe there frezzers are full of young doe meat.

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from mshibbins wrote 3 years 24 weeks ago

I'd only shoot what I could use. Deer meat can be kept a long time, so I would shoot several deer and still eat them over time. But there is a limit I'd hit. I wouldn't shoot more than 4 or 5 total probably

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from Davin.Lopez wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

Hi all,

I am the head of the CWD program in Wisconsin. I just wanted to calrify a point made several times here. Although there has never been any known connection between eating CWD positive meat and human disease, the Center for Disease Control and other medical experts still advise against eating known CWD positive venison. Although the prions are concentrated in lymphoid tissue and the central nervous system, they are also in blood and meat, albeit at lower levels.

Also, most states, including WI usually test the lymph nodes not brain stem any more for CWD...easier to get and more resistant to degradation.

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from Davin.Lopez wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

For current CWD distribution in WI, see: http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/whealth/issues/CWD/maps.htm

We have not really been able to get drastic population reductions that would greatly affect disease profression thus far, so yes, in WI, CWD is still an issue and slowly increasing.

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from Davin.Lopez wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

meant progression, sorry

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from Sarge01 wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

Davin,
When I retired 4 years ago we were still taking the brain stem. I guess things are changing all the time. Out department was telling people that the meat was okay to eat. We tested the whole state and so far only one county has anything positive. I don't think anyone knows really how it spreads or how fast, at least my biologist buddies say it is really still just a educated guess , but they have some very good ideas. Feeders have been banned and this may help because I think that when they are bunched up it makes it worse ,slobbering on the ground and the feed on the ground. Since I retired I have lost track of whats going on so I don't know if they are allowing deer to be transported from that county or not. For a long time no whole deer could be transported out of the county.

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