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Weird family rules. I know we all have some weird rules with our friends and families when it comes to hunting. Share some of yours. With my family, about 20-30 of use hunt on over 500 acres in the mountains in WV. On the property are old farm houses and barns. Our family rule is that no matter how cold, how wet or how are far in the woods you are, you do not use the barns or houses as a stand, no matter how many deer are eating or moving there. My dad's piece has a large natural clover field right in front of an old house that is falling in. If you want to hunt it, then set up a stand, not sit in a chair on the porch. Also, how many of you think it is OK to shot from your porch? We never allow it and you will be banned from hunting the rest of the season and possibly the next.

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from WVOtter wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Sounds like a great debate to have over a beer. I would never consider hunting off a livable homes' porch (not to mention illegel). But really, how does that differ from a run down camp/barn in the woods? Is the fact you had to hike in and don't have coffee and a bathroom the only things that make one ethical vs. the other? Why is it any different than sitting under a heavy pine to block the elements? Or a ground blind? I guess when it comes down to it...if the structure has essentially become part of the landscape, I'd say OK...but would still not do it myself for personal hang ups.

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from Cgull wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Rules are rules and made to be followed. Find the best place allowed to set a stand where the deer will be moving.

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from seadog wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

I've always dreamed of having a huge piece of property where I could hunt off the back porch if I wanted. I would put a feeder in the back yard & set up a tripod for my camera on the back porch. I would hunt in the woods, not off the porch except with the camera. As for the old farm houses & barns, it's the property owners call, but I don't think it's a bad rule.

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from turk wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Well everybody has rules but i dont really see what the big deal is about hunting out of an old fallen down house or barn i guess its just the rules you have to go by we have a couple of old houses on our lease at one of these old houses it has a few big oak trees and all around it is a bunch of planted pines which over the years has got real thick,i noticed a couple of years ago the deer were really hitting these acorn trees hard everytime i would walk down the old road bed i would jump a bunch of deer it didnt seem to matter what time of day they were always feeding under these oaks, but anyway i decided to sit inside this old house it was the best set up i took 4 deer that season out of the window of that old house and it now is one of my favorite stands i can stay dry and out of the wind i even put a table along with a nice comfortable chair to me its no different than a shooting house just a little bigger of course to me old abandon houses and barns can be a great set up deer love these old home steads like you said a natural clover patch or like me with some big oaks i also seen deer eating the privet hedges around the house they love them but i guess its all in your rules if it was me i would try and get them to change it so you can use it to your advantage.

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from 99explorer wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Turk has the right idea. Ask for an exception. An abandoned structure is not that much different from a box blind.

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from 007 wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

I do live in the woods and deer and squirrels in the yard is old news. I killed one deer around my house once and then felt guilty in that I probably fed and watched her in the yard so I now get well away from home and hearth, same with the squirrels. It would have to be the proverbial hartford stag for me to take a deer out the window. Having said that, tho, I see no difference between an abandoned, run-down building out in the back forty and some of the up scale deer blinds that some folks build today. My brother in law built one with sleeping and toilet accomodations.

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from LesserSon wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Weird rules at our cabin: there are so many rocking chairs you have to stack them on the porch to sit down inside; you're not allowed to burn beer cartons in the woodstove (though I've seen just about everything else tossed in, even when it obviously would not burn). These practices were established by my wife's grandfather (yeah, I married into camp). Now he has passed and cannot revise them, even though the rockers are past their prime and beer cartons are no longer printed with toxic ink.
Tradition doesn't need a rationale.

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from BioGuy wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

There's a difference between hunting deer and shooting deer. You shoot deer off a porch, but you hunt deer from a tree stand.

Our rule is no shooting anything in the back yard...except red squirrels (for nuisance reasons though).

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from LesserSon wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

To me the hunt is more than just an opportunity to kill. I'm not in camp to just kill a deer, but to get out of my daily routine. I want to climb the mountain, get into the forest. I've tried a stand, but I prefer mobility (I'm talking about firearms hunting, not archery).

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from Teodoro wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

I'm pretty sure this guy wanted to hear about our own quirky rules (I don't have any to share) not ask for advice from us on how to deal with his own rules.

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from jestr1 wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

I bring a sling chair with me in the woods and have an easy set blind cloth. Its nice and comfortable to sit in. As far a sittin on the porch Why not. If you not gonna use the old stuctures does that mean you not supposed to be using a blind? Would be similar. Keeps you out of the elements. I know its a family thing. I would shoot off the porch if I could. Have in the past when I lived in a place to do so.

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from jlstrader wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

Thank you Teodoro. I love the rules we have in place. We have an uncle that is not welcome to hunt anymore because he places a very large feeder across the "road" my dad has spent years clearing and rebuilding up into the hollar (I know it is hollow but I am southern) and sits just inside the door of the old house. He is maybe .1 mile from the house. To us that is not hunting. That is baiting and waiting for them to come and eat. Planting a food plot is fine, but we don't stand for baiting like that. We hunt for fun, although we are trying to put food in the freezer. My great grandfather and grandmother would turn over in their grave if they knew. These are rules established long before even my dad was born. I just wanted to know weird rules. Thanks to LesserSon and others for getting the point of this one.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

Rules are rules. Until your run the camp, follow the established order!

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from 99explorer wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

Teodoro is technically correct, but the guy did ask how many of us thought is was OK to shoot from the porch. And he got lots of answers to that.

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from adswartz wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

I try every year to get a rule established about not shooting young bucks. Penalty for shooting a young buck would be to donate money to a food plot fund. So far I haven't made any progress with that. My uncles are more into meat hunting than trophy hunting, so they don't care about racks or food plots. I guess it'll be a while before the new breed takes over at the ranch.

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from adswartz wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

I try every year to get a rule established about not shooting young bucks. Penalty for shooting a young buck would be to donate money to a food plot fund. So far I haven't made any progress with that. My uncles are more into meat hunting than trophy hunting, so they don't care about racks or food plots. I guess it'll be a while before the new breed takes over at the ranch.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

We don't hunt on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day.... My dad's rules... Haven't done it whereever I've been.. I hunt thanksgivin though.

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from WVOtter wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Sounds like a great debate to have over a beer. I would never consider hunting off a livable homes' porch (not to mention illegel). But really, how does that differ from a run down camp/barn in the woods? Is the fact you had to hike in and don't have coffee and a bathroom the only things that make one ethical vs. the other? Why is it any different than sitting under a heavy pine to block the elements? Or a ground blind? I guess when it comes down to it...if the structure has essentially become part of the landscape, I'd say OK...but would still not do it myself for personal hang ups.

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from Cgull wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Rules are rules and made to be followed. Find the best place allowed to set a stand where the deer will be moving.

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from turk wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Well everybody has rules but i dont really see what the big deal is about hunting out of an old fallen down house or barn i guess its just the rules you have to go by we have a couple of old houses on our lease at one of these old houses it has a few big oak trees and all around it is a bunch of planted pines which over the years has got real thick,i noticed a couple of years ago the deer were really hitting these acorn trees hard everytime i would walk down the old road bed i would jump a bunch of deer it didnt seem to matter what time of day they were always feeding under these oaks, but anyway i decided to sit inside this old house it was the best set up i took 4 deer that season out of the window of that old house and it now is one of my favorite stands i can stay dry and out of the wind i even put a table along with a nice comfortable chair to me its no different than a shooting house just a little bigger of course to me old abandon houses and barns can be a great set up deer love these old home steads like you said a natural clover patch or like me with some big oaks i also seen deer eating the privet hedges around the house they love them but i guess its all in your rules if it was me i would try and get them to change it so you can use it to your advantage.

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from 007 wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

I do live in the woods and deer and squirrels in the yard is old news. I killed one deer around my house once and then felt guilty in that I probably fed and watched her in the yard so I now get well away from home and hearth, same with the squirrels. It would have to be the proverbial hartford stag for me to take a deer out the window. Having said that, tho, I see no difference between an abandoned, run-down building out in the back forty and some of the up scale deer blinds that some folks build today. My brother in law built one with sleeping and toilet accomodations.

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from seadog wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

I've always dreamed of having a huge piece of property where I could hunt off the back porch if I wanted. I would put a feeder in the back yard & set up a tripod for my camera on the back porch. I would hunt in the woods, not off the porch except with the camera. As for the old farm houses & barns, it's the property owners call, but I don't think it's a bad rule.

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from 99explorer wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Turk has the right idea. Ask for an exception. An abandoned structure is not that much different from a box blind.

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from BioGuy wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

There's a difference between hunting deer and shooting deer. You shoot deer off a porch, but you hunt deer from a tree stand.

Our rule is no shooting anything in the back yard...except red squirrels (for nuisance reasons though).

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from LesserSon wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

Weird rules at our cabin: there are so many rocking chairs you have to stack them on the porch to sit down inside; you're not allowed to burn beer cartons in the woodstove (though I've seen just about everything else tossed in, even when it obviously would not burn). These practices were established by my wife's grandfather (yeah, I married into camp). Now he has passed and cannot revise them, even though the rockers are past their prime and beer cartons are no longer printed with toxic ink.
Tradition doesn't need a rationale.

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from LesserSon wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

To me the hunt is more than just an opportunity to kill. I'm not in camp to just kill a deer, but to get out of my daily routine. I want to climb the mountain, get into the forest. I've tried a stand, but I prefer mobility (I'm talking about firearms hunting, not archery).

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from Teodoro wrote 2 weeks 4 days ago

I'm pretty sure this guy wanted to hear about our own quirky rules (I don't have any to share) not ask for advice from us on how to deal with his own rules.

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from jestr1 wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

I bring a sling chair with me in the woods and have an easy set blind cloth. Its nice and comfortable to sit in. As far a sittin on the porch Why not. If you not gonna use the old stuctures does that mean you not supposed to be using a blind? Would be similar. Keeps you out of the elements. I know its a family thing. I would shoot off the porch if I could. Have in the past when I lived in a place to do so.

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from jlstrader wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

Thank you Teodoro. I love the rules we have in place. We have an uncle that is not welcome to hunt anymore because he places a very large feeder across the "road" my dad has spent years clearing and rebuilding up into the hollar (I know it is hollow but I am southern) and sits just inside the door of the old house. He is maybe .1 mile from the house. To us that is not hunting. That is baiting and waiting for them to come and eat. Planting a food plot is fine, but we don't stand for baiting like that. We hunt for fun, although we are trying to put food in the freezer. My great grandfather and grandmother would turn over in their grave if they knew. These are rules established long before even my dad was born. I just wanted to know weird rules. Thanks to LesserSon and others for getting the point of this one.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

Rules are rules. Until your run the camp, follow the established order!

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from adswartz wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

I try every year to get a rule established about not shooting young bucks. Penalty for shooting a young buck would be to donate money to a food plot fund. So far I haven't made any progress with that. My uncles are more into meat hunting than trophy hunting, so they don't care about racks or food plots. I guess it'll be a while before the new breed takes over at the ranch.

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from 99explorer wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

Teodoro is technically correct, but the guy did ask how many of us thought is was OK to shoot from the porch. And he got lots of answers to that.

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from adswartz wrote 2 weeks 3 days ago

I try every year to get a rule established about not shooting young bucks. Penalty for shooting a young buck would be to donate money to a food plot fund. So far I haven't made any progress with that. My uncles are more into meat hunting than trophy hunting, so they don't care about racks or food plots. I guess it'll be a while before the new breed takes over at the ranch.

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from 86Ram wrote 2 weeks 2 days ago

We don't hunt on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day.... My dad's rules... Haven't done it whereever I've been.. I hunt thanksgivin though.

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