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Well, just snooped on the internet and found out that my hunting partner in crime Lance and I both drew mule deer tags for our unit in Colorado. Now the selection and grooming of the deer rifle begins. Elk results due out next week, but not sweating that cow tag application. How many of you have drawn tags for limited hunts this year? Best of luck to all!
WAM
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Can I go too?!
Wam, shoot the 7mm WBY. I load mine with a 160 Accubond with R22.
I believe I will be lucky enough to draw a tag for the elusive Preference Point in Colorado. Cousin of the elk, but much easier to procure.
This will be my third in a row, so should draw for it's bigger cousin next year if the stars align for a hunt.
By the by...last elk hunt in Colorado I shot a Ruger M77 in 338 Win Mag. Got caught in a late October blizzard, never mad it to elevation, and ended up taking the onliest elk my party saw (until the day I left camp, of course) which was a smallish spike with flesh like butter. Small enough and placed close enough to access that we could hoist it entire into the rear end of my truck (no quartering) and therefore I had the hide tanned as a trophy. I run my fingers across it every morning on the way down the hall, and my boys used to go tell it "thanks" for the meal after finishing their "elkburger helper" or what not.
I thought seriously about applying for at least a deer tag in Montana this year but decided that dealing with one would just be too much hassle. And a lot more meat than I need. Shooting a buck certainly wouldn't be a problem! Pretty much on demand. On four different occasions I took four guys out to get their bucks last fall and the longest it took was three hours. Usually saw a dozen to fifty deer a day while hunting pheasants. Would love to shoot one again but I'm satisfied gutting and dragging them out for others. I'm not real thrilled about butchering (though pretty dang good at it) so that's usually left to the shooters. I am thinking seriously about returning to the West Side this fall and hiking up the mountain where I shot most of my elk. Lots of blue grouse up there. It would be nice to see that country one last time before my wheels give out. Hopefully it hasn't changed. Will break my heart if it has. A lot depends on how my daughter makes out with this pregnancy. She's nearly in the barn. They may induce next week. Still no name. I'm leaning towards Ted Williams ... could call him Teddy Bill. He would probably be born with a lip full of chewing tobacco. Ugh!
WAM,
Which will it be 7mm Weatherby Magnum or 30-06? I'm betting it will be a Weatherby...lol.
Congrats WAM! Best of luck to you on your hunt. I like the 7mm Mag for mule deer but if you will be hunting elk at the same time, your .300 Wby sounds pretty good to me with the 7mm as backup. I always like the idea of your .35 Whelen for elk but think it is a little slow for mule deer. I like to be able to crack them on the run and 7mm speed makes it quite predictable.
I'm set with a SW Montana elk tag and a deer tag too. They just came in the mail today and I am sleeping with them for the rest of this month just for the fun of it!
OH, if you are in the area between Butte and Helena the first week of rifle season or a few days before, stop by for a day or two. Would love to jaw with you any time and I expect the mountains to be a slice of heaven. Sounds like this might be a ways from your happy hunting ground but you never know.
What unit did you draw? I tried the website but couldn't get on to find out about my tags. Maybe tomorrow.
Crapped out on deer, buddy got his. I should be ok on elk (limited draw area archery) and same location/season as my hunting partner. I doubt he will draw an elk so at least we have one of each between us.
We both drew pronghorn in CO (rifle) (backdoor just posted)
CDOW cut tags in a few areas, unfortunately my deer area was one.
I hope WY is good to us.
Not traveling out west this year unless I win some some RMEF raffles I put in for. Purchased mule deer point in colorado, moose point in Maine, will buy points in Wyoming for deer, elk, and pronghorn. Will have 5 deer points in wyoming after this year; waiting for a red desert hunt. Struck out for elk in kentucky. Of course I'll have 2 bow and 2 gun tags and whitetails here in IL and a fall turkey archery and shotgun permit.
idduckhntr,
I am leaning towards the 7mm WBY with the Barnes TTSX load I have already worked up w/ MagPro. I have about 100 each 160 gr Accubonds, but I am a little shy on RL 22 since I loaded some up for my son. I'll probably take the .300 Wby along loaded with 168 gr TTSX also. Decisions, decisions....
I have to wait for June 15th to find out for a moose tag in Maine. I drew 3 years ago, so I doubt I'll pull a tag. Although I have my own application this year (after a 2 year wait), plus I'm sub-permittee on 2 others, so my odds are better....though not by much.
well I already posted this but I am so ecited I will post again, I drew an Elk tag for the Missouri Breaks. got 9 solid days of hunting lined out. Stil no word on my other tags yet though.
WAM
I am low on 22 myself but have a little R25 left and 3 boxes loaded. Still waiting for draw results.
idduckhntr,
When I say low, I mean I am conserving RL 22 and 25 powders and not doing much load development until supplies are more available. I have an adequate supply of MagPro, AA 2460, 4350, and RL 19 to maintain my shooting practice well into the next decade. Bullets, too.
Wam,
I am in the same situation with powder. I have been loading for this dang 38 super and pistol powder is like gold over here.
DakotaMan,
Thanks! Tag drawing time is almost as exciting as the hunt to me. I'm sure you will have a good hunt in MT and best of luck to you and all the hunters venturing out West this year.
I self-impose a 300 yard limit on shots with the .35 Whelen even though I have a Leupold CDS turret installed calibrated to the 225 Accubond @ 2,700 fps load at 7,000 feet. I did kill a bull with one shot with it four years ago with a factory 225 gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw at 308 measured yards (after the shot). The 7mm Wby is death itself on deer and elk at any range you can hit them. Same with the .300 Roy. For the open range mule deer hunting, the 7mm Wby is probably the best rifle that I own. I am sure there are others just as good or more well suited to their owners.
Cheers
WAM- Is that back in the Craig, CO area?
We are going back to NM this year, and I will stick with the ever faithful Old Ugly '06 and 165 gr. Accubonds, and the .338 Win Mag. with the 180 Accubonds. Good luck to all!
crm
crm3006 - Not back to Craig, CO this year. Too many of the gang opted out this year and Lance and I are hooked up with some of his old hunting buddies that have had a lease for 30 seasons north of Grand Junction. I have never hunted that unit before and may go back to Craig next year. Maybe I should take the '06 for a change in luck!
Cheers
Dakota, I may loop down that way looking for some new bird hunting digs. The three dogs will be in tow so it may not be possible for me to shoot your elk for you. ;-) But I guess I could show you how to do it ... and stick my foot up your poop chute when you muff it. Seriously, it would be great to get out and stretch my legs in the mountains again but will have to wait for my brother to bring my big pistol over from the West Side when he meets me in Havre. I can't carry a big game rifle when bird hunting (or maybe I can but I won't) so I would have to do the unthinkable and strap on the .357 hog-leg. Ugh! Oh well, do what ya gotta do. Actually, I don't think I have ever worn one of my sidearms on my side. The .22 will still go in the backpack. No need to be in a hurry to shoot grouse. Something big and furry with teeth and claws might be a different matter. Also, some of the hunters out and about that first week (especially the partying types!) can be more dangerous than the predacious wildlife.
OH, it would be an honor to meet you and your dogs. If you want to stomp the hills there a little and show me how to do it, that would be even better! I can bring along a .44 Mag for you to carry if you like. It's not a fancy one, but it shoots accurately and the thunder will sure tell me where to begin looking for your remains ;-).
Thanks but .44 is too much weight. Six inch Highway Patrolman is probably more than I'd want to carry but it'll have to do.
We'll see if I can swing it. I formerly packed horses for USFS in the Avon area. Where abouts are you guys going to be hunting? Has your wrangler ever packed meat before? Or has he ever packed anything? I can certainly get you guys headed in the right direction re the techniques with horses and long before you head west. I can do that long distance easily (though I would sure like to be doing it hands on again). If you get your elk over with quickly it might also be possible to run up to the Hi-Line and take a deer. Can't guarantee a monster buck but shooting something with horns shouldn't be a problem. And certainly nothing wrong with taking a big dry doe muley if worse comes to worse. They eat just fine.
OH... I'll be hunting in Unit 318, near Basin. I'm going with my brother-in-law from South Dakota. He's a horse trainer who has hunted this area 4 times before but we chose it because we are both old and have bad knees. He's taken many nice elk in his lifetime, one 7-pointer would probably rival that beauty that you took long ago.
He's taken a couple of nice bulls there but most importantly, we can hunt fairly close to base camp and stay at elevations between 5000 and 6000 feet with limited climbing. We are buying horses in South Dakota before the trip and selling them on the way home. He'll train them to pack meat for a month or two before the hunt. They are mainly pack horses but we'll also use them to haul our carcasses off the mountain if our knees give out. He has done this since we were kids so I don't have too many worries regarding logistics.
We buy weed free hay and get it certified in S.Dak. where he gets a good deal on it and he has a nice portable corral and a good tent. We will be going to the restaurant for meals and hunting most of the time. My deer tag is only good in Unit 318 but I might buy an over the counter for other counties if I get lucky and fill my elk tag early.
I don't know how to best exchange emails on this site but certainly welcome all the advice you would be willing to provide. Thanks much!
Have not drawn any tags, but I received an envelope full of tickets from Tuscaloosa last Friday, I think they will be enjoyed.
RTR,
Robert
Robert,
Don't rub it in! Hope to see you in Atlanta!
RTR
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I thought seriously about applying for at least a deer tag in Montana this year but decided that dealing with one would just be too much hassle. And a lot more meat than I need. Shooting a buck certainly wouldn't be a problem! Pretty much on demand. On four different occasions I took four guys out to get their bucks last fall and the longest it took was three hours. Usually saw a dozen to fifty deer a day while hunting pheasants. Would love to shoot one again but I'm satisfied gutting and dragging them out for others. I'm not real thrilled about butchering (though pretty dang good at it) so that's usually left to the shooters. I am thinking seriously about returning to the West Side this fall and hiking up the mountain where I shot most of my elk. Lots of blue grouse up there. It would be nice to see that country one last time before my wheels give out. Hopefully it hasn't changed. Will break my heart if it has. A lot depends on how my daughter makes out with this pregnancy. She's nearly in the barn. They may induce next week. Still no name. I'm leaning towards Ted Williams ... could call him Teddy Bill. He would probably be born with a lip full of chewing tobacco. Ugh!
idduckhntr,
I am leaning towards the 7mm WBY with the Barnes TTSX load I have already worked up w/ MagPro. I have about 100 each 160 gr Accubonds, but I am a little shy on RL 22 since I loaded some up for my son. I'll probably take the .300 Wby along loaded with 168 gr TTSX also. Decisions, decisions....
Congrats WAM! Best of luck to you on your hunt. I like the 7mm Mag for mule deer but if you will be hunting elk at the same time, your .300 Wby sounds pretty good to me with the 7mm as backup. I always like the idea of your .35 Whelen for elk but think it is a little slow for mule deer. I like to be able to crack them on the run and 7mm speed makes it quite predictable.
I'm set with a SW Montana elk tag and a deer tag too. They just came in the mail today and I am sleeping with them for the rest of this month just for the fun of it!
DakotaMan,
Thanks! Tag drawing time is almost as exciting as the hunt to me. I'm sure you will have a good hunt in MT and best of luck to you and all the hunters venturing out West this year.
I self-impose a 300 yard limit on shots with the .35 Whelen even though I have a Leupold CDS turret installed calibrated to the 225 Accubond @ 2,700 fps load at 7,000 feet. I did kill a bull with one shot with it four years ago with a factory 225 gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw at 308 measured yards (after the shot). The 7mm Wby is death itself on deer and elk at any range you can hit them. Same with the .300 Roy. For the open range mule deer hunting, the 7mm Wby is probably the best rifle that I own. I am sure there are others just as good or more well suited to their owners.
Cheers
Can I go too?!
Wam, shoot the 7mm WBY. I load mine with a 160 Accubond with R22.
I believe I will be lucky enough to draw a tag for the elusive Preference Point in Colorado. Cousin of the elk, but much easier to procure.
This will be my third in a row, so should draw for it's bigger cousin next year if the stars align for a hunt.
By the by...last elk hunt in Colorado I shot a Ruger M77 in 338 Win Mag. Got caught in a late October blizzard, never mad it to elevation, and ended up taking the onliest elk my party saw (until the day I left camp, of course) which was a smallish spike with flesh like butter. Small enough and placed close enough to access that we could hoist it entire into the rear end of my truck (no quartering) and therefore I had the hide tanned as a trophy. I run my fingers across it every morning on the way down the hall, and my boys used to go tell it "thanks" for the meal after finishing their "elkburger helper" or what not.
WAM,
Which will it be 7mm Weatherby Magnum or 30-06? I'm betting it will be a Weatherby...lol.
OH, if you are in the area between Butte and Helena the first week of rifle season or a few days before, stop by for a day or two. Would love to jaw with you any time and I expect the mountains to be a slice of heaven. Sounds like this might be a ways from your happy hunting ground but you never know.
What unit did you draw? I tried the website but couldn't get on to find out about my tags. Maybe tomorrow.
Crapped out on deer, buddy got his. I should be ok on elk (limited draw area archery) and same location/season as my hunting partner. I doubt he will draw an elk so at least we have one of each between us.
We both drew pronghorn in CO (rifle) (backdoor just posted)
CDOW cut tags in a few areas, unfortunately my deer area was one.
I hope WY is good to us.
Not traveling out west this year unless I win some some RMEF raffles I put in for. Purchased mule deer point in colorado, moose point in Maine, will buy points in Wyoming for deer, elk, and pronghorn. Will have 5 deer points in wyoming after this year; waiting for a red desert hunt. Struck out for elk in kentucky. Of course I'll have 2 bow and 2 gun tags and whitetails here in IL and a fall turkey archery and shotgun permit.
I have to wait for June 15th to find out for a moose tag in Maine. I drew 3 years ago, so I doubt I'll pull a tag. Although I have my own application this year (after a 2 year wait), plus I'm sub-permittee on 2 others, so my odds are better....though not by much.
well I already posted this but I am so ecited I will post again, I drew an Elk tag for the Missouri Breaks. got 9 solid days of hunting lined out. Stil no word on my other tags yet though.
WAM
I am low on 22 myself but have a little R25 left and 3 boxes loaded. Still waiting for draw results.
idduckhntr,
When I say low, I mean I am conserving RL 22 and 25 powders and not doing much load development until supplies are more available. I have an adequate supply of MagPro, AA 2460, 4350, and RL 19 to maintain my shooting practice well into the next decade. Bullets, too.
Wam,
I am in the same situation with powder. I have been loading for this dang 38 super and pistol powder is like gold over here.
WAM- Is that back in the Craig, CO area?
We are going back to NM this year, and I will stick with the ever faithful Old Ugly '06 and 165 gr. Accubonds, and the .338 Win Mag. with the 180 Accubonds. Good luck to all!
crm
crm3006 - Not back to Craig, CO this year. Too many of the gang opted out this year and Lance and I are hooked up with some of his old hunting buddies that have had a lease for 30 seasons north of Grand Junction. I have never hunted that unit before and may go back to Craig next year. Maybe I should take the '06 for a change in luck!
Cheers
OH, it would be an honor to meet you and your dogs. If you want to stomp the hills there a little and show me how to do it, that would be even better! I can bring along a .44 Mag for you to carry if you like. It's not a fancy one, but it shoots accurately and the thunder will sure tell me where to begin looking for your remains ;-).
Thanks but .44 is too much weight. Six inch Highway Patrolman is probably more than I'd want to carry but it'll have to do.
We'll see if I can swing it. I formerly packed horses for USFS in the Avon area. Where abouts are you guys going to be hunting? Has your wrangler ever packed meat before? Or has he ever packed anything? I can certainly get you guys headed in the right direction re the techniques with horses and long before you head west. I can do that long distance easily (though I would sure like to be doing it hands on again). If you get your elk over with quickly it might also be possible to run up to the Hi-Line and take a deer. Can't guarantee a monster buck but shooting something with horns shouldn't be a problem. And certainly nothing wrong with taking a big dry doe muley if worse comes to worse. They eat just fine.
OH... I'll be hunting in Unit 318, near Basin. I'm going with my brother-in-law from South Dakota. He's a horse trainer who has hunted this area 4 times before but we chose it because we are both old and have bad knees. He's taken many nice elk in his lifetime, one 7-pointer would probably rival that beauty that you took long ago.
He's taken a couple of nice bulls there but most importantly, we can hunt fairly close to base camp and stay at elevations between 5000 and 6000 feet with limited climbing. We are buying horses in South Dakota before the trip and selling them on the way home. He'll train them to pack meat for a month or two before the hunt. They are mainly pack horses but we'll also use them to haul our carcasses off the mountain if our knees give out. He has done this since we were kids so I don't have too many worries regarding logistics.
We buy weed free hay and get it certified in S.Dak. where he gets a good deal on it and he has a nice portable corral and a good tent. We will be going to the restaurant for meals and hunting most of the time. My deer tag is only good in Unit 318 but I might buy an over the counter for other counties if I get lucky and fill my elk tag early.
I don't know how to best exchange emails on this site but certainly welcome all the advice you would be willing to provide. Thanks much!
Have not drawn any tags, but I received an envelope full of tickets from Tuscaloosa last Friday, I think they will be enjoyed.
RTR,
Robert
Robert,
Don't rub it in! Hope to see you in Atlanta!
RTR
Dakota, I may loop down that way looking for some new bird hunting digs. The three dogs will be in tow so it may not be possible for me to shoot your elk for you. ;-) But I guess I could show you how to do it ... and stick my foot up your poop chute when you muff it. Seriously, it would be great to get out and stretch my legs in the mountains again but will have to wait for my brother to bring my big pistol over from the West Side when he meets me in Havre. I can't carry a big game rifle when bird hunting (or maybe I can but I won't) so I would have to do the unthinkable and strap on the .357 hog-leg. Ugh! Oh well, do what ya gotta do. Actually, I don't think I have ever worn one of my sidearms on my side. The .22 will still go in the backpack. No need to be in a hurry to shoot grouse. Something big and furry with teeth and claws might be a different matter. Also, some of the hunters out and about that first week (especially the partying types!) can be more dangerous than the predacious wildlife.
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