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Does anybody else get scared walking out of the woods at dark by theirself? My mind cant help but to think someone or something is out to get me. I have a 15 minuet walk out of the woods, a quarter mile ride on the 4 wheeler to the top of a hill which takes me to an old abandon farm house (which is where my vehicle is parked) all in the middle of no where. Please tell me I am not the only one that is scared.
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when i was young to hunting it got to me some what
but as you get more time in you want give it a second thought so dont worry thiers nothing out their to worry about just take a deep breath and calm your self and carry a big light that will help you feel more secure and helps when tracking but those uneassy feelings will pass in time
best of luck this season
Sorry bigbuckhunter you need to change your handle to big chicken. LOL
I can't help you as I have never had this problem even in areas with grizzleys, cougars or wolves. Or in the south with snakes, gators and all manners of flesh eating bugs.
"What you can not see you imagine and what you imagine is far worse than what actually exists" British Royal Marines Sniper
I used to be that way when I was young...just kinda grew out of it as I learned more about wildlife and how they actually react to human presence. Most of the tooth and claw critters we never see because they catch our scent and get out of the area before we even knew they were there.
Everyone has fears, but not everyone can admit to them. Props on that one.
Common charlie be nice. I'm sure at one time you were affraid yourself the first time in the woods by yourself. I know I was when I was younger. Just a phase BigBuckHunter, the more you are out there the more comfortable you will feel. Good luck.
A bit uneasy at times. Some places just raise the hairs on the back on my neck. Still remember teenage days when we walked through a haunted foggy graveyard to choice squirrel woods. Some other woods were around Indian burial mounds. Then there was that spooky abandoned farm house, which they finally tore down. Nowadays, where I hunt, there are numerous Bigfoot sightings. Some of those might have been me, though, slipping out and back into the woods in my ghillie suit.
yeah though i walk through the valley in the shadow of death , i shall fear now evil because i an the meanest son of a bit-- in the valley
i started taking my dads 22 handgun and have no problem have used it 2 with a pesky bear who was walking towards me on my way in. just shot at a tree to scare him away very few things stay around after a gunshot goes off. also comes in handy for coyotes as they are a pest and scare away deer
I used to be pretty scared when I was around fourteen, but now that I'm a couple years older I realize that I have a gun and I usually carry alot of bullets. So if I did see the dreaded bear, wolf pack, or Bigfoot I could scare them off or kill them....just pray (if your that kind of person) and start heading back with confidence...and it also helps if you don't watch all these scary movies nowadays....good luck and have fun
If you are not hunting in Griz country, you have little to worry about. More likely to trip and fall and injure yourself in the dark.
Yea verily, I have walked in the valley of the shadow of death (Ia Drang) and those little unarmed critters out here don't scare me one bit! LOL
Two days ago I was hiking to my spot in Grizzly, Wolf and Cougar country and a huge black object ran across the trail and through the creek crashing through everything. Scared the living crap out of me, to dark to even shoot at whatever it was if it came after me. I suspect it was a moose even though I heard wolves later that morning, but I hear you. I only get freaked out when something is crashing around in the dark. I don't care what these guys say, every one of them would have crapped their pants. Even though most of them would have not forgotten a flashlight. Changed a flat tire while hunting and forgot to put my flashlight back, oh well, I lived.
Sometimes I get spooked, but not not as often as I used to when I first started hunting... Last year a covey of quail errupted from behind the downed log I was using as a back stop. though I was going to have a heart attack... but for the most part you just have to remember that nothing out there wants to harm you.
I know I started feeling more uneasy this past spring when I was out for turkey. I'd arrived at my spot about 0500...well before light. Then not long after sunrise say a mountain lion stalking along in the distance. Made me realize he could have been anywhere he wanted keeping an eye on me while I sat in the dark.
It's a natural inborn instinct, to put you on alert and raise your senses for those big bad wolves and cougars. In time you should become more at ease. I admit bow hunting alone in an unfamiliar area makes me glad to see the truck. Now that said I don't carry a side arm or use a flashlight unless I have to. I spent 17 years serving OUR fine Country and behind a M16 or an AR15 no fear, but I do admit having left the stand early to get out of the unfamiliar area do to fearing the unknown. I have seen BIG guys talk like some of the others here and clean their underwear first time things got hot. Smart people live a long and happy life, understanding fear is the first step, using it to your advantage is the next! Good luck!
Just because I am a reasonable man and know very well that there aren't any dangerous animals where I hunt doesn't mean that back in the lizard part of my brain I'm not afraid of what I can't see. I really like Rem700-06's post. Even though I am positive that the scratching I hear in the underbrush is an armadillo, there is always the .o1% chance that Bubba has escaped from the facility and is out looking for revenge. I'm not afraid, per se, but if you were to jump out from behind a big tree after dark and yell "Boo!" while I'm walking out, I'll probably leap four feet into the air, empty my bolt action in every direction before I come down and then start thinking about where I'm going to get a clean set of camo---not fearful, just high strung. Ain't life a hoot?
I hunt Black bear over baitpiles(legal here)and have left my stand many times after dark fully knowing that the posibility of large hungry bears being in the area is very high.I carry a 15million candlepower spotlight and dont unload my gun til I am beside my truck.I find the most unnerving portion of my walk out is the first half mile and the further I get from my bait/stand the safer I feel.Would I want to make the same walk out minus the highpower light and with a bow in my hands instead of a rifle? not likely.
I enjoy a good walk in the woods in the dark. It's amazing how well your eyes adjust and how much you can actually see if you choose not to use your flashlight.
I enjoy a good walk in the woods in the dark. It's amazing how well your eyes adjust and how much you can actually see if you choose not to use your flashlight.
several years ago, my father was walking to his treestand on a bright moonlit morning. he knew that he would be back in the morning the night before so he just left his bow in the tree. while walking to the stand, he saw what looked like a coyote crossing the road in front of him. it stopped and looked at him and he yelled at it, hoping it would run off. instead, it ran straight at him. he retreated, not even having a flashlight in his hand to see what it was. he jumped in the bed of the truck, barely beating the critter. when he finally got the flashlight out of his pocket, he illuminated a big floppy eared coon hound that was lost and just wanted some attention. this would scare just about anyone, he does not leave the bow in the tree anymore.
We were "hunted" by a Mtn. Lion in Colo. a couple of years back. Scared (not really), Worried(DEFINATLY,had my buddys 3 nephews/1 buddy with us at the time.
Rem700-06 put's it best here !(+1 for you !)
It is a natural instinct in the human to be afraid of the dark and the unknown. We are hardwired to be in the daylight where we can see.
You're fearful response is natural. We all know that the dark can conceal many things, and the fear of being eaten is strong but completely subconscious. You may know that you're not gonna get eaten, but you're mind cant escape the possibility. I get the same thing too. Props to you for asking for help.
not going to pretend im a manly man or any thing im afraid of some things dark woods never realy bugged me dark city on the other hand bugs me
Sorry cant say as I am. I have had a time where I was gettin nervous though. Was trackin a big set of tracks across a ridge. Came across a huge set of cat prints. There have been cougar reported in our area. Took a look around and set up to see if there was anything around. He circled the ridge and I could hear him only a few yards away over the ridge. Was gettin nervous cause he was gettin close!
Grow a set or quit hunting.
Fear is okay, but panic is unacceptable. That alertness is an asset, but you have to harness it. Your worst enemy is the tree branch that pokes you in the eye when you keep looking over your shoulder. I had my hair stand straight on end one night when I could hear something big shuffling through the leaves right at me. I yelled but it kept coming. The scariest thing was not being able to see it. Finally, got my flashlight on it, and it was a porcupine. Obviously, they don't get too concerned about people yelling at them.
Try going into your hunting areas after dark outside of the hunting season. Don't turn on that flashlight, as it blinds you and makes the dark seem darker. You'd be shocked what you can see if you let your eyes adjust to the night. If there's any moon at all, you've got all the light you need. Get to know your area in the dark, and it won't creep you out.
USE THE FLASHLIGHT DURING HUNTING SEASON, because some idiot with no judgement of shooting hours might not positively identify you in the dark.
Here's a challenge: lie down on your basement floor at night with no lights on.
LesserSon-
What are you talking about? Lie on the basement floor? What this has too do with hunting? ???? I'm lost!!!
Porcupine? That little creature? A little porcupine is the least of my worries.
A porcupine (or an armadillo) shuffling through dry leaves can make as much noise as a bull orc and when you can't see what it is, it's worrisome.
Poor Porcipines,they got the short end of the stick when it came to smarts.Its a local joke here that if you get lost in the woods follow a porcipine, because its going to go the highway to get run over...
But seriously, their slow behavior is great if you do become lost.They easy to kill, relatively easy to skin(flip em over and work from the belly in.)and one of the few wild meats you can safely consume completely raw.Ive tryed them roasted, its edible, sprucey but edible.
"So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance." -FDR
This has been fun reading!! I have been hunting for a long time and spent MANY MANY nights in the woods camping with no rifle. Usually only a pocket knife. I've done night hikes and backpacked in in the middle of the night several times after work. I was never scared one time, until we thought there was a bear on the trail in front of us. Very long story short, some one had put reflecting tacks on a tree very close together, close enough and low enough to appear to be eyes. It scared the hell out of us, but we laugh at it.
I will admit, walking in the woods now, during deer season, with a muzzleloader, I get a little nervous. Makes me mad that I cannot carry a pistol with me on Fort Campbell while hunting. Gives me that extra sense of security. But I will have it in WV.
Takes a man to admit his downfalls and shortcomings. I'm not afraid to admit that I get scared!! But once in the tree, I could care less what is on the ground.
Ok apparently some did not get my sense of humor. That's ok some say I am humorless.
Lighten up. LOL = Lots of Laughs
Now for serious:
Of course everyone has fears. Duh!
This is about walking out of a woods at night - scared of the dark. Things go bump in the night, we probably all get startled certainly this does not cross the threshold to fear. To those who think this is fear you may never have really experienced the dark choking affects of real life threatening fear.
Startled vs. fear = big difference.
Scared vs. fear = big difference.
Stop navel gazing.
Hunt on bigbuckhunter.
Later,
charlie
I kind of grew up in the woods so I don't get scared of anything out there except I must say that I am very nervous hunting in public hunting areas around big cities. I am always thinking that some bozo will open up on me doing a little "sound shooting". So far I must say that hunters have been very good and I haven't really had a problem... however I still worry.
To add to this, even when it is daylight, it is easy to get startled. The other day a rabbit come out of a bush at full speed and scared me ten feet in the air. It ran right in front of me!! There are a lot of coyotes, and I mean a LOT, where I hunt so that was the first thing to come to mind.
Kyle, I'm talking about fear management. We fear the unfamiliar.
I was thinking of my own unfinished basement, not a shag carpet man-cave with leather couch and wet bar. I know there's spiders, centipedes and real crud on my basement floor.
The reality is, none of that can really hurt you, but is does cause a sense of revulsion. Getting a handle on that gives you a place to start with your other fears.
Oh, and I absolutely agree with DakotaMan: there is nothing more dangerous than our fellow humans. I too grew up in the county, and as a kid I would have walked 5 miles in the dark woods than down an alley.
when i hunt in alabama with cougar wolf and other stuff. I have to drive a 4 wheeler or kabota a mile and a half to another hunting house to meet my uncle then we walk into a ridge and sit up against a tree in the dark with 2 turkey load shells and a 12 gauge over and under, and then when i hunt in illinois i walk to my stand through a field and the woods which isn't AS bad but one time i saw a coyote run in front of i drew back on it and almost shot it with my bow. awhile later i was in my stand and i started bleating and 4 coyotes ran out and started barking and going nuts right under my stand
I used to be a bit nervouse for no aparent reason, then on a walk back from my blind in Texas I had three Coyotes surround me at a fence intersection and cattle feeder they were esentially cornerd by me and werent exactly happy, I was wondering how to take them out with my 308 at 5 feet away, but they just let me pass. I'm a bit more nervous now...
i have 2 acres behind my house and i am twelve do all the work my self and i need tips on how to draw deer to my set ups.... the brush is thick and i found a small clearing where i hung a ladder stand with a small food plot and a tater pile beside a small watering hole that is clearly used alot but ive never seen a deer from it there is a scrape appr. 20 yds from my stand. any ideas.... my other setup is a blind on a DESERTED dirt bike path that hasnt been used in well over two years, so the ground is very mushy perfect for food plots with cornpiles... PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO DRAW DEER TO MY SETUPS....i forgot to mention that i am twelve and each stand is within two hundred yards of my north carolina home
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"What you can not see you imagine and what you imagine is far worse than what actually exists" British Royal Marines Sniper
Everyone has fears, but not everyone can admit to them. Props on that one.
I hunt Black bear over baitpiles(legal here)and have left my stand many times after dark fully knowing that the posibility of large hungry bears being in the area is very high.I carry a 15million candlepower spotlight and dont unload my gun til I am beside my truck.I find the most unnerving portion of my walk out is the first half mile and the further I get from my bait/stand the safer I feel.Would I want to make the same walk out minus the highpower light and with a bow in my hands instead of a rifle? not likely.
when i was young to hunting it got to me some what
but as you get more time in you want give it a second thought so dont worry thiers nothing out their to worry about just take a deep breath and calm your self and carry a big light that will help you feel more secure and helps when tracking but those uneassy feelings will pass in time
best of luck this season
I used to be that way when I was young...just kinda grew out of it as I learned more about wildlife and how they actually react to human presence. Most of the tooth and claw critters we never see because they catch our scent and get out of the area before we even knew they were there.
yeah though i walk through the valley in the shadow of death , i shall fear now evil because i an the meanest son of a bit-- in the valley
Two days ago I was hiking to my spot in Grizzly, Wolf and Cougar country and a huge black object ran across the trail and through the creek crashing through everything. Scared the living crap out of me, to dark to even shoot at whatever it was if it came after me. I suspect it was a moose even though I heard wolves later that morning, but I hear you. I only get freaked out when something is crashing around in the dark. I don't care what these guys say, every one of them would have crapped their pants. Even though most of them would have not forgotten a flashlight. Changed a flat tire while hunting and forgot to put my flashlight back, oh well, I lived.
It's a natural inborn instinct, to put you on alert and raise your senses for those big bad wolves and cougars. In time you should become more at ease. I admit bow hunting alone in an unfamiliar area makes me glad to see the truck. Now that said I don't carry a side arm or use a flashlight unless I have to. I spent 17 years serving OUR fine Country and behind a M16 or an AR15 no fear, but I do admit having left the stand early to get out of the unfamiliar area do to fearing the unknown. I have seen BIG guys talk like some of the others here and clean their underwear first time things got hot. Smart people live a long and happy life, understanding fear is the first step, using it to your advantage is the next! Good luck!
A bit uneasy at times. Some places just raise the hairs on the back on my neck. Still remember teenage days when we walked through a haunted foggy graveyard to choice squirrel woods. Some other woods were around Indian burial mounds. Then there was that spooky abandoned farm house, which they finally tore down. Nowadays, where I hunt, there are numerous Bigfoot sightings. Some of those might have been me, though, slipping out and back into the woods in my ghillie suit.
i started taking my dads 22 handgun and have no problem have used it 2 with a pesky bear who was walking towards me on my way in. just shot at a tree to scare him away very few things stay around after a gunshot goes off. also comes in handy for coyotes as they are a pest and scare away deer
If you are not hunting in Griz country, you have little to worry about. More likely to trip and fall and injure yourself in the dark.
Yea verily, I have walked in the valley of the shadow of death (Ia Drang) and those little unarmed critters out here don't scare me one bit! LOL
Just because I am a reasonable man and know very well that there aren't any dangerous animals where I hunt doesn't mean that back in the lizard part of my brain I'm not afraid of what I can't see. I really like Rem700-06's post. Even though I am positive that the scratching I hear in the underbrush is an armadillo, there is always the .o1% chance that Bubba has escaped from the facility and is out looking for revenge. I'm not afraid, per se, but if you were to jump out from behind a big tree after dark and yell "Boo!" while I'm walking out, I'll probably leap four feet into the air, empty my bolt action in every direction before I come down and then start thinking about where I'm going to get a clean set of camo---not fearful, just high strung. Ain't life a hoot?
I enjoy a good walk in the woods in the dark. It's amazing how well your eyes adjust and how much you can actually see if you choose not to use your flashlight.
several years ago, my father was walking to his treestand on a bright moonlit morning. he knew that he would be back in the morning the night before so he just left his bow in the tree. while walking to the stand, he saw what looked like a coyote crossing the road in front of him. it stopped and looked at him and he yelled at it, hoping it would run off. instead, it ran straight at him. he retreated, not even having a flashlight in his hand to see what it was. he jumped in the bed of the truck, barely beating the critter. when he finally got the flashlight out of his pocket, he illuminated a big floppy eared coon hound that was lost and just wanted some attention. this would scare just about anyone, he does not leave the bow in the tree anymore.
Poor Porcipines,they got the short end of the stick when it came to smarts.Its a local joke here that if you get lost in the woods follow a porcipine, because its going to go the highway to get run over...
But seriously, their slow behavior is great if you do become lost.They easy to kill, relatively easy to skin(flip em over and work from the belly in.)and one of the few wild meats you can safely consume completely raw.Ive tryed them roasted, its edible, sprucey but edible.
"So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance." -FDR
Common charlie be nice. I'm sure at one time you were affraid yourself the first time in the woods by yourself. I know I was when I was younger. Just a phase BigBuckHunter, the more you are out there the more comfortable you will feel. Good luck.
I used to be pretty scared when I was around fourteen, but now that I'm a couple years older I realize that I have a gun and I usually carry alot of bullets. So if I did see the dreaded bear, wolf pack, or Bigfoot I could scare them off or kill them....just pray (if your that kind of person) and start heading back with confidence...and it also helps if you don't watch all these scary movies nowadays....good luck and have fun
Sometimes I get spooked, but not not as often as I used to when I first started hunting... Last year a covey of quail errupted from behind the downed log I was using as a back stop. though I was going to have a heart attack... but for the most part you just have to remember that nothing out there wants to harm you.
I know I started feeling more uneasy this past spring when I was out for turkey. I'd arrived at my spot about 0500...well before light. Then not long after sunrise say a mountain lion stalking along in the distance. Made me realize he could have been anywhere he wanted keeping an eye on me while I sat in the dark.
You're fearful response is natural. We all know that the dark can conceal many things, and the fear of being eaten is strong but completely subconscious. You may know that you're not gonna get eaten, but you're mind cant escape the possibility. I get the same thing too. Props to you for asking for help.
Sorry cant say as I am. I have had a time where I was gettin nervous though. Was trackin a big set of tracks across a ridge. Came across a huge set of cat prints. There have been cougar reported in our area. Took a look around and set up to see if there was anything around. He circled the ridge and I could hear him only a few yards away over the ridge. Was gettin nervous cause he was gettin close!
LesserSon-
What are you talking about? Lie on the basement floor? What this has too do with hunting? ???? I'm lost!!!
Ok apparently some did not get my sense of humor. That's ok some say I am humorless.
Lighten up. LOL = Lots of Laughs
Now for serious:
Of course everyone has fears. Duh!
This is about walking out of a woods at night - scared of the dark. Things go bump in the night, we probably all get startled certainly this does not cross the threshold to fear. To those who think this is fear you may never have really experienced the dark choking affects of real life threatening fear.
Startled vs. fear = big difference.
Scared vs. fear = big difference.
Stop navel gazing.
Hunt on bigbuckhunter.
Later,
charlie
I kind of grew up in the woods so I don't get scared of anything out there except I must say that I am very nervous hunting in public hunting areas around big cities. I am always thinking that some bozo will open up on me doing a little "sound shooting". So far I must say that hunters have been very good and I haven't really had a problem... however I still worry.
I enjoy a good walk in the woods in the dark. It's amazing how well your eyes adjust and how much you can actually see if you choose not to use your flashlight.
We were "hunted" by a Mtn. Lion in Colo. a couple of years back. Scared (not really), Worried(DEFINATLY,had my buddys 3 nephews/1 buddy with us at the time.
Rem700-06 put's it best here !(+1 for you !)
It is a natural instinct in the human to be afraid of the dark and the unknown. We are hardwired to be in the daylight where we can see.
not going to pretend im a manly man or any thing im afraid of some things dark woods never realy bugged me dark city on the other hand bugs me
Fear is okay, but panic is unacceptable. That alertness is an asset, but you have to harness it. Your worst enemy is the tree branch that pokes you in the eye when you keep looking over your shoulder. I had my hair stand straight on end one night when I could hear something big shuffling through the leaves right at me. I yelled but it kept coming. The scariest thing was not being able to see it. Finally, got my flashlight on it, and it was a porcupine. Obviously, they don't get too concerned about people yelling at them.
Try going into your hunting areas after dark outside of the hunting season. Don't turn on that flashlight, as it blinds you and makes the dark seem darker. You'd be shocked what you can see if you let your eyes adjust to the night. If there's any moon at all, you've got all the light you need. Get to know your area in the dark, and it won't creep you out.
USE THE FLASHLIGHT DURING HUNTING SEASON, because some idiot with no judgement of shooting hours might not positively identify you in the dark.
Porcupine? That little creature? A little porcupine is the least of my worries.
A porcupine (or an armadillo) shuffling through dry leaves can make as much noise as a bull orc and when you can't see what it is, it's worrisome.
This has been fun reading!! I have been hunting for a long time and spent MANY MANY nights in the woods camping with no rifle. Usually only a pocket knife. I've done night hikes and backpacked in in the middle of the night several times after work. I was never scared one time, until we thought there was a bear on the trail in front of us. Very long story short, some one had put reflecting tacks on a tree very close together, close enough and low enough to appear to be eyes. It scared the hell out of us, but we laugh at it.
I will admit, walking in the woods now, during deer season, with a muzzleloader, I get a little nervous. Makes me mad that I cannot carry a pistol with me on Fort Campbell while hunting. Gives me that extra sense of security. But I will have it in WV.
Takes a man to admit his downfalls and shortcomings. I'm not afraid to admit that I get scared!! But once in the tree, I could care less what is on the ground.
To add to this, even when it is daylight, it is easy to get startled. The other day a rabbit come out of a bush at full speed and scared me ten feet in the air. It ran right in front of me!! There are a lot of coyotes, and I mean a LOT, where I hunt so that was the first thing to come to mind.
when i hunt in alabama with cougar wolf and other stuff. I have to drive a 4 wheeler or kabota a mile and a half to another hunting house to meet my uncle then we walk into a ridge and sit up against a tree in the dark with 2 turkey load shells and a 12 gauge over and under, and then when i hunt in illinois i walk to my stand through a field and the woods which isn't AS bad but one time i saw a coyote run in front of i drew back on it and almost shot it with my bow. awhile later i was in my stand and i started bleating and 4 coyotes ran out and started barking and going nuts right under my stand
I used to be a bit nervouse for no aparent reason, then on a walk back from my blind in Texas I had three Coyotes surround me at a fence intersection and cattle feeder they were esentially cornerd by me and werent exactly happy, I was wondering how to take them out with my 308 at 5 feet away, but they just let me pass. I'm a bit more nervous now...
i have 2 acres behind my house and i am twelve do all the work my self and i need tips on how to draw deer to my set ups.... the brush is thick and i found a small clearing where i hung a ladder stand with a small food plot and a tater pile beside a small watering hole that is clearly used alot but ive never seen a deer from it there is a scrape appr. 20 yds from my stand. any ideas.... my other setup is a blind on a DESERTED dirt bike path that hasnt been used in well over two years, so the ground is very mushy perfect for food plots with cornpiles... PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO DRAW DEER TO MY SETUPS....i forgot to mention that i am twelve and each stand is within two hundred yards of my north carolina home
Oh, and I absolutely agree with DakotaMan: there is nothing more dangerous than our fellow humans. I too grew up in the county, and as a kid I would have walked 5 miles in the dark woods than down an alley.
Kyle, I'm talking about fear management. We fear the unfamiliar.
I was thinking of my own unfinished basement, not a shag carpet man-cave with leather couch and wet bar. I know there's spiders, centipedes and real crud on my basement floor.
The reality is, none of that can really hurt you, but is does cause a sense of revulsion. Getting a handle on that gives you a place to start with your other fears.
Grow a set or quit hunting.
Here's a challenge: lie down on your basement floor at night with no lights on.
Sorry bigbuckhunter you need to change your handle to big chicken. LOL
I can't help you as I have never had this problem even in areas with grizzleys, cougars or wolves. Or in the south with snakes, gators and all manners of flesh eating bugs.
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