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I am wondering what types of bullets are better to use in a muzzleloader. The ones in a sabot or the ones with out one?

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from KMB33 wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

I have always used and had success with powerbelt, which would be without a sabot. They shoot much cleaner in my experience and i have shot 3 inch groups with them. Me and my dad have taken deer out to 200 yards with these. Always dropping them witha vital shot. I shoot a CVA Kodiak Pro 209 magnum

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from woofbarkenarf wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

It really depends on manufacturer of firearm, choice of game, expected range,powder type and load, etc. for instance, I have achieved better grouping at 200 yds using a thompsoon center "mag express sabot" and hornady 240 grain xtp hollowpoint jacketed bullets in .430 diameter over 100 grains of pyrodex pellet in my 209x50 magnum Thompson center encore. Working with the load and bullet, I found the sweet spot after experimenting at the range while keeping within the recommended factory specs. Conical bullets generally will group a whole lot nicer than round ball, and you will find that loose black powder will shoot with more velocity than equal weight of pyrodex, but fouls your barrel more easily. Sabots will give greater muzzle velocity (at least the way I use them) due to decreasing the weight of the bullet. Keep in mind that after a point, your accuracy will decrease when you add more powder charge on a particular bullet. Therefore I shoot three round groups using the same type bullet, keeping copious notes , while increasing the powder charge toward the max recommended load.

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from JHawes wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

I use T/C shockwave sabot out of my CVA Wolf. They performed a lot better than the powerbelts out of my gun, even though CVA recommends the use of powerbelts on their muzzleloaders. As for the reloading and cleaning, its a little bit tougher with the sabots, but its not horrible. You would be better off trying both kind and using several different brands if possible to see which shoot better out of your gun or which best meets your needs.

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from berky wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

I have good sucess with the ones in the sabots.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

What twist is the barrel?

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from basketfootball89 wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

Thanks guys, im not sure what the twist of the barrel is, ill have to go and look that up. I guess ill get some of each and see which one works with my gun better.

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from lovetohunt wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

I use powerbelts out of my T/C Triumph. They shoot great about 1 inch groups at 50 yards. They also work good on deer. I just shot a spike at 30 yards with a 245 grain powerbelt. It dropped right where I shot it. And no I did not spine it. Double lung shot.

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from KMB33 wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

I have always used and had success with powerbelt, which would be without a sabot. They shoot much cleaner in my experience and i have shot 3 inch groups with them. Me and my dad have taken deer out to 200 yards with these. Always dropping them witha vital shot. I shoot a CVA Kodiak Pro 209 magnum

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from woofbarkenarf wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

It really depends on manufacturer of firearm, choice of game, expected range,powder type and load, etc. for instance, I have achieved better grouping at 200 yds using a thompsoon center "mag express sabot" and hornady 240 grain xtp hollowpoint jacketed bullets in .430 diameter over 100 grains of pyrodex pellet in my 209x50 magnum Thompson center encore. Working with the load and bullet, I found the sweet spot after experimenting at the range while keeping within the recommended factory specs. Conical bullets generally will group a whole lot nicer than round ball, and you will find that loose black powder will shoot with more velocity than equal weight of pyrodex, but fouls your barrel more easily. Sabots will give greater muzzle velocity (at least the way I use them) due to decreasing the weight of the bullet. Keep in mind that after a point, your accuracy will decrease when you add more powder charge on a particular bullet. Therefore I shoot three round groups using the same type bullet, keeping copious notes , while increasing the powder charge toward the max recommended load.

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from JHawes wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

I use T/C shockwave sabot out of my CVA Wolf. They performed a lot better than the powerbelts out of my gun, even though CVA recommends the use of powerbelts on their muzzleloaders. As for the reloading and cleaning, its a little bit tougher with the sabots, but its not horrible. You would be better off trying both kind and using several different brands if possible to see which shoot better out of your gun or which best meets your needs.

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from berky wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

I have good sucess with the ones in the sabots.

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from buckhunter wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

What twist is the barrel?

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from basketfootball89 wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

Thanks guys, im not sure what the twist of the barrel is, ill have to go and look that up. I guess ill get some of each and see which one works with my gun better.

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from lovetohunt wrote 2 years 19 weeks ago

I use powerbelts out of my T/C Triumph. They shoot great about 1 inch groups at 50 yards. They also work good on deer. I just shot a spike at 30 yards with a 245 grain powerbelt. It dropped right where I shot it. And no I did not spine it. Double lung shot.

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