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I shot a buck early this evening wiht my rifle and had a good blood trail. I heard two other shots while on my trail. My blood trail just stopped. I kept walking around hoping to pick it up again and come to three guys getting ready to gut a buck that looked much like mine. They stated they shot it and I did hear the two shots. But what happened to my blood trail, why would it just stop and ther is nothing in the area. This is the second time this week. The first was a doe I took with my bow, I looked for two days for her and nothing. Now a rifle shot on a buck I know I hit good and still nothing.... what am I doing wrong, I have yet to bring home a kill on my own.
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Are you shooting too far forward, missing the lungs? A double-lung hit deer will bleed profusely til it's death. A flesh-wound will stop bleeding. Brisket shot or low flank? Gutshot deer are hard to track too as often there ain't much blood. Practice shooting more and in the field, relax and concentrate. MAKE THAT SHOT COUNT!!!
Shoot right behind the foreleg about halfway up the body. Dead deer, usually less than 50 yds.
A lot can happen with a blood trail. Most are shots that don't quite hit where you think they do. It has happened to me and i lost a real nice 6 pointer. Some ammo doesn't work as well as others. I switched from remington to federal power shock or vital shock and found that, in my own opinion, it seems to do more damage to vitals. Also, when using a rifle in a larger caliber, it is ok to shoot the front shoulder. Rifle's usually penetrate the bone very easy and tear the vitals behind them up. Plus with a shattered front shoulder the animal has a harder time getting away than gut shot or in the rear leg. They tend to stumble more or not even able to run at all. Don't shoot to high, maybe change your ammo to Federal with the barnes or nossler tips (They are a little more expensive), and be patient. The worst thing you can do is get excited and blow a shot. Again, i am speaking from experience. Just remember all the fundamentals and it will come.
On a high chest shot, blood will pool up in the bottom of the chest cavity and the blood trail will often disappear for a while, or disappear completely. The deer will die, but unless the hunter is good at following tracks, it may not be found. There is also a spot in the chest where you can hit and never touch a vital.
Hunters often get so caught up looking for blood they forget to look for tracks or up-turned leaves. Also, look for the path of least resistance. Wounded deer are often looking for the easiest way to travel (which is why they often head downhill and are found near streams). Good luck in the future!
So far the focus has been on shot placement, which I agree is vitally important, but it is also possible that you are not using enough gun. You did ask what you were doing wrong, but did not mention the caliber of your rifle. IMHO,.243 Win. should be the minimum for deer. An old rule of thumb is 1,000 ft/lbs of energy on the target.
Thats the crappy thing about hunting public land, if its not a bangflop shot then your deer may easily become someone else's.
99explorer - I was shooting the .243. I placed my shot rear the right shoulder, a little back from it to be exact.
Lots of things could of happened, the grimlin limb that streches out and wacks your shot off course or the deer took a step at the moment you pulled the trigger. Sounds like the hit missed the boiler room ( double lung/heart) area. A boiler room shot deer will travel no more than 100 yrds and make for a very easy track. Even on public land if I think I have a posibly bad shot, I will back off and let the deer bed down and expire. Too many deer are lost because they are pushed out of their death beds by hunters looking for that downed game. It's better to let wounded deer bed than risk pushing them farther inot thickets or into the sights of another.
It is common for a bread-basket shot in the guts to plug up with a chunk of fat. I once hit a nice whitetail buck in the guts just as he jumped. I was pretty sure I tagged him but it didn't leave anything to track. Could definitely smell the guts at point of impact. There was no snow and I looked up and down the hill for a hundred yards round. Finally gave up, went to the top of the mountain and killed a dry muley doe. Made a pack out of her (won't tell anyone how to do that - it's murder on the shoulders!). As I was bringing her down the mountain I literally stepped on that buck laying dead. He was gut shot and never left any blood till he fell.
If you miss the lungs/heart shooting too far forward, you'd likely at least take out a shoulder. That wound would rarely stop bleeding as the deer would aggrivate it with every step. Same with a ham shot. I agree that, while a .243 is adequate (except in brushy situations), it is a bit on the light side. I've sometimes had trouble keeping deer down with a 30-06 (e.g. the story above).
If you don't knock down your deer then, yes, you run the risk of someone else who does the job taking it. I have cleaned up for several hunters over the years. I never took an animal that was hit well enough to end its life eventually. I'll not finish off another hunter's fatally wounded animal unless the hunter is out of sight or is incapable of doing the job himself. It is not ethical to let anything suffer a moment longer than necessary.
I have known a number of experienced hunters who were quite happy with their choice of the .243 Win. for deer (and varmints). I also know a small middle-aged woman who has killed literally dozens of whitetails over the years with her .243. But she recently retired it in favor of her husband's old .270 when he bought himself a new rifle. Her reason: she said she liked the way the .270 dropped the deer in their tracks with one shot. Go figure.
243, is the smallest caliber "recommended" for Whitetails, I consider it to be marginal. especially if you do not hit perfectly. Get your self either a .270or 30/06 30/06 has more bang flops than anything smaller. ( on the Battlefield too.)
You definitely have have "enough" gun. It wouldn't be my choice, but to each his own. Some deer do double back after they are shot. They especially do this when you don't wait long enough so they can bleed out and start tracking them right after you shot them. I should know it has happened to me before.
Of course, they stole your deer. Here, it is expected. I even heard of the sheriff taking somebody's deer. Always hunt with a partner.
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Are you shooting too far forward, missing the lungs? A double-lung hit deer will bleed profusely til it's death. A flesh-wound will stop bleeding. Brisket shot or low flank? Gutshot deer are hard to track too as often there ain't much blood. Practice shooting more and in the field, relax and concentrate. MAKE THAT SHOT COUNT!!!
Shoot right behind the foreleg about halfway up the body. Dead deer, usually less than 50 yds.
On a high chest shot, blood will pool up in the bottom of the chest cavity and the blood trail will often disappear for a while, or disappear completely. The deer will die, but unless the hunter is good at following tracks, it may not be found. There is also a spot in the chest where you can hit and never touch a vital.
Hunters often get so caught up looking for blood they forget to look for tracks or up-turned leaves. Also, look for the path of least resistance. Wounded deer are often looking for the easiest way to travel (which is why they often head downhill and are found near streams). Good luck in the future!
Thats the crappy thing about hunting public land, if its not a bangflop shot then your deer may easily become someone else's.
Lots of things could of happened, the grimlin limb that streches out and wacks your shot off course or the deer took a step at the moment you pulled the trigger. Sounds like the hit missed the boiler room ( double lung/heart) area. A boiler room shot deer will travel no more than 100 yrds and make for a very easy track. Even on public land if I think I have a posibly bad shot, I will back off and let the deer bed down and expire. Too many deer are lost because they are pushed out of their death beds by hunters looking for that downed game. It's better to let wounded deer bed than risk pushing them farther inot thickets or into the sights of another.
A lot can happen with a blood trail. Most are shots that don't quite hit where you think they do. It has happened to me and i lost a real nice 6 pointer. Some ammo doesn't work as well as others. I switched from remington to federal power shock or vital shock and found that, in my own opinion, it seems to do more damage to vitals. Also, when using a rifle in a larger caliber, it is ok to shoot the front shoulder. Rifle's usually penetrate the bone very easy and tear the vitals behind them up. Plus with a shattered front shoulder the animal has a harder time getting away than gut shot or in the rear leg. They tend to stumble more or not even able to run at all. Don't shoot to high, maybe change your ammo to Federal with the barnes or nossler tips (They are a little more expensive), and be patient. The worst thing you can do is get excited and blow a shot. Again, i am speaking from experience. Just remember all the fundamentals and it will come.
So far the focus has been on shot placement, which I agree is vitally important, but it is also possible that you are not using enough gun. You did ask what you were doing wrong, but did not mention the caliber of your rifle. IMHO,.243 Win. should be the minimum for deer. An old rule of thumb is 1,000 ft/lbs of energy on the target.
It is common for a bread-basket shot in the guts to plug up with a chunk of fat. I once hit a nice whitetail buck in the guts just as he jumped. I was pretty sure I tagged him but it didn't leave anything to track. Could definitely smell the guts at point of impact. There was no snow and I looked up and down the hill for a hundred yards round. Finally gave up, went to the top of the mountain and killed a dry muley doe. Made a pack out of her (won't tell anyone how to do that - it's murder on the shoulders!). As I was bringing her down the mountain I literally stepped on that buck laying dead. He was gut shot and never left any blood till he fell.
If you miss the lungs/heart shooting too far forward, you'd likely at least take out a shoulder. That wound would rarely stop bleeding as the deer would aggrivate it with every step. Same with a ham shot. I agree that, while a .243 is adequate (except in brushy situations), it is a bit on the light side. I've sometimes had trouble keeping deer down with a 30-06 (e.g. the story above).
If you don't knock down your deer then, yes, you run the risk of someone else who does the job taking it. I have cleaned up for several hunters over the years. I never took an animal that was hit well enough to end its life eventually. I'll not finish off another hunter's fatally wounded animal unless the hunter is out of sight or is incapable of doing the job himself. It is not ethical to let anything suffer a moment longer than necessary.
243, is the smallest caliber "recommended" for Whitetails, I consider it to be marginal. especially if you do not hit perfectly. Get your self either a .270or 30/06 30/06 has more bang flops than anything smaller. ( on the Battlefield too.)
You definitely have have "enough" gun. It wouldn't be my choice, but to each his own. Some deer do double back after they are shot. They especially do this when you don't wait long enough so they can bleed out and start tracking them right after you shot them. I should know it has happened to me before.
99explorer - I was shooting the .243. I placed my shot rear the right shoulder, a little back from it to be exact.
I have known a number of experienced hunters who were quite happy with their choice of the .243 Win. for deer (and varmints). I also know a small middle-aged woman who has killed literally dozens of whitetails over the years with her .243. But she recently retired it in favor of her husband's old .270 when he bought himself a new rifle. Her reason: she said she liked the way the .270 dropped the deer in their tracks with one shot. Go figure.
Of course, they stole your deer. Here, it is expected. I even heard of the sheriff taking somebody's deer. Always hunt with a partner.
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