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I am think about getting a new rifle for Christmas and I stuck on either the .270 or the 7mm-08 what are the advantages disadvantages of both. thanks for the help and have a merry Christmans.

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

I've no experience with the 7mm-08, so I won't even try a comparison.
The 08 is based on the same cartridge as the .270, the .30 '06.
The 7mm (.284 dia) has a heavier bullet weight selection than the .270 (.277 dia)!
The .270 has a larger case capacity. Both are very capable cartridges for North American game. Both very good choices.
BTW, I hunt almost exclusively with the .270.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

The 7MM-08 wasn't based on the same cartridge as the .270, the 30-06. The 7MM-08 was based on a necked down .308 case to .284 diameter. I have owned a 7MM-08 and it is a fine cartridge for just about anything but the really big stuff. It is a fine deer cartridge and I shot 140 grain Nosler Balistic Tips in mine for a deer load. It lacks the recoil of the .270 which is a plus and comes in a short action firearm which is a bit shorter overall. It would make you a fine rifle.

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from steve182 wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

Both are great for deer sized game, though a bit light for elk will do the job with a well placed shot. Ideal deer rifles.

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from Andrew Maxwell wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

ive never used the 7mm-08 but i can tell you that the 270 is an AMAZING deer rifle. i personally use a 30-06 with 180gr. bullets. ever deer ive shot with that died before they hit the ground! (with well placed shots of coarse)270/30-06 all the way!

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

Sarge is right. Both are necked down versions of the U.S. military cartridge in use at the time they were created.
The .270 is the .30-06 necked down to .277 and the 7mm-08 is the .308 necked down to .284.
The .308 has been called "the .30-06 in short pants."

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from youngfisherman wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

Whatever caliber it is it will be a single shot break action rifle.

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from DakotaMan wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

The .270 is made from the parent 30-06 case and is about 1/2 inch longer than the 7mm/008 (.284 caliber) which is made from the .308 parent cartridge. As a result, the .270 can hold more powder to add velocity to bullets.

.270
Advantages: 200 fps faster with small bullets, 300-400 fps faster with larger bullets; smaller 100g bullets for varmints
Disadvantages: Sharp recoil; heaver "long action" rifles

7mm/08
Advantages: Mild recoil, lighter "short action" rifles, capable of better accuracy for target shooting, less powder for loading makes ammo less expensive if you reload.
Disadvantages: Less speed makes longer range shots a little tougher (although I get 3250 fps out of 120g bullets with handloads which is mighty fast).

The 7mm/08 case design makes it better for:
a) target shooting (especially 500-1000 yard because of the bigger VLD bullets with better ballistics than the .270),
b) timber hunting, and
c) shooters that are sensitive to the sharp recoil of the .270. Great for young and small framed shooters and those who want to leverage the low recoil for better accuracy.

The .270 is preferable for prairie and beanfield hunting where longer range shots are required and where game may be running. It does as well in the timber as the 7mm/08.

Both are great cartridges for coyote through deer sized game and both can even be used for elk. Both are a littel heavy with too much recoil for good varmint hunting. You won't go wrong with either. Although there are differences, they are slight.

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from Matthew Matzek wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

If deer isnyour quarry then both of those rounds will get the job done. I believe that .270s (the rifles not the cartridge) are larger heavier rifles, if only slightly. Really, the differences between the two are minimal. I would suggest going off whichever round with the brand you like is cheaper or in greater supply in your area, if youre not a handloader

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from woolf1987 wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

if you really want to have the best of both worlds's go with the 270 WSM

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from Gilltheman wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

I use a .270 and I will argue with anybody that with a well placed shot, you can kill anything in North America.

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from Safado wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

DakotaMan and Sarge01 covered the subject well. I personally think the 270 W is more well rounded but has more recoil.

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from hhack wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

The 270 win has been around for almost 90 years now. I am personally biased toward it and it is what I always recommend to anyone looking for their first big game rifle. I have no experience with the 7mm-08, I almost built one on an M48 mauser action then decided to go with a 6.5x284. I am sure the 7mm-08 is a fine cartridge but the 270 is more common and can be found in higher quality rifles more easily than a 7mm-08. Just my .02.

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from DakotaMan wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

There are several outstanding cartridges around them, the 6.5x284 being one of them. I really like the .270
WSM too, especially if you handload. The .270 WSM is faster than the .270 and usually more accurate. It usually comes in a light rifle and it kicks like a mule even in a heavier rifle. My sister-in-law shoots one for deer and complains every time she shoots one. She won't dump it though because it is so accurate and so deadly. This year, I got her shooting 100g and 120g bullets and that helps her a lot. They sound small but they are deadly on deer and coyotes.

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

Either cartridge is a fine choice for deer. Both are fun to handload and experiment with, but the 7mm-08 is well-suited to a medium-length action (same length action as the .308, .243, .22-250, etc.); the .270 requires a standard length action (.30-'06, .280, etc.), so if weight or a short bolt throw is a priority for you, that may weigh your decision for the 7mm-08. Both will solidly anchor your deer, but it's a tough choice and, as you shop about, you'll probably as to see or handle a rifle that "fits", that feels good in your hands and points naturally, and I encourage you to look for that. This is a win-win choice. Either one will serve you well. I enjoyed both but, personally, I enjoyed handloading for the 7mm-08 a bit more.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

The 7MM-08 wasn't based on the same cartridge as the .270, the 30-06. The 7MM-08 was based on a necked down .308 case to .284 diameter. I have owned a 7MM-08 and it is a fine cartridge for just about anything but the really big stuff. It is a fine deer cartridge and I shot 140 grain Nosler Balistic Tips in mine for a deer load. It lacks the recoil of the .270 which is a plus and comes in a short action firearm which is a bit shorter overall. It would make you a fine rifle.

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from DakotaMan wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

The .270 is made from the parent 30-06 case and is about 1/2 inch longer than the 7mm/008 (.284 caliber) which is made from the .308 parent cartridge. As a result, the .270 can hold more powder to add velocity to bullets.

.270
Advantages: 200 fps faster with small bullets, 300-400 fps faster with larger bullets; smaller 100g bullets for varmints
Disadvantages: Sharp recoil; heaver "long action" rifles

7mm/08
Advantages: Mild recoil, lighter "short action" rifles, capable of better accuracy for target shooting, less powder for loading makes ammo less expensive if you reload.
Disadvantages: Less speed makes longer range shots a little tougher (although I get 3250 fps out of 120g bullets with handloads which is mighty fast).

The 7mm/08 case design makes it better for:
a) target shooting (especially 500-1000 yard because of the bigger VLD bullets with better ballistics than the .270),
b) timber hunting, and
c) shooters that are sensitive to the sharp recoil of the .270. Great for young and small framed shooters and those who want to leverage the low recoil for better accuracy.

The .270 is preferable for prairie and beanfield hunting where longer range shots are required and where game may be running. It does as well in the timber as the 7mm/08.

Both are great cartridges for coyote through deer sized game and both can even be used for elk. Both are a littel heavy with too much recoil for good varmint hunting. You won't go wrong with either. Although there are differences, they are slight.

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from FirstBubba wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

I've no experience with the 7mm-08, so I won't even try a comparison.
The 08 is based on the same cartridge as the .270, the .30 '06.
The 7mm (.284 dia) has a heavier bullet weight selection than the .270 (.277 dia)!
The .270 has a larger case capacity. Both are very capable cartridges for North American game. Both very good choices.
BTW, I hunt almost exclusively with the .270.

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from steve182 wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

Both are great for deer sized game, though a bit light for elk will do the job with a well placed shot. Ideal deer rifles.

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from Andrew Maxwell wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

ive never used the 7mm-08 but i can tell you that the 270 is an AMAZING deer rifle. i personally use a 30-06 with 180gr. bullets. ever deer ive shot with that died before they hit the ground! (with well placed shots of coarse)270/30-06 all the way!

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

Sarge is right. Both are necked down versions of the U.S. military cartridge in use at the time they were created.
The .270 is the .30-06 necked down to .277 and the 7mm-08 is the .308 necked down to .284.
The .308 has been called "the .30-06 in short pants."

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from youngfisherman wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

Whatever caliber it is it will be a single shot break action rifle.

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from Matthew Matzek wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

If deer isnyour quarry then both of those rounds will get the job done. I believe that .270s (the rifles not the cartridge) are larger heavier rifles, if only slightly. Really, the differences between the two are minimal. I would suggest going off whichever round with the brand you like is cheaper or in greater supply in your area, if youre not a handloader

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from woolf1987 wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

if you really want to have the best of both worlds's go with the 270 WSM

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from Gilltheman wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

I use a .270 and I will argue with anybody that with a well placed shot, you can kill anything in North America.

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from Safado wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

DakotaMan and Sarge01 covered the subject well. I personally think the 270 W is more well rounded but has more recoil.

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from hhack wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

The 270 win has been around for almost 90 years now. I am personally biased toward it and it is what I always recommend to anyone looking for their first big game rifle. I have no experience with the 7mm-08, I almost built one on an M48 mauser action then decided to go with a 6.5x284. I am sure the 7mm-08 is a fine cartridge but the 270 is more common and can be found in higher quality rifles more easily than a 7mm-08. Just my .02.

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from DakotaMan wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

There are several outstanding cartridges around them, the 6.5x284 being one of them. I really like the .270
WSM too, especially if you handload. The .270 WSM is faster than the .270 and usually more accurate. It usually comes in a light rifle and it kicks like a mule even in a heavier rifle. My sister-in-law shoots one for deer and complains every time she shoots one. She won't dump it though because it is so accurate and so deadly. This year, I got her shooting 100g and 120g bullets and that helps her a lot. They sound small but they are deadly on deer and coyotes.

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

Either cartridge is a fine choice for deer. Both are fun to handload and experiment with, but the 7mm-08 is well-suited to a medium-length action (same length action as the .308, .243, .22-250, etc.); the .270 requires a standard length action (.30-'06, .280, etc.), so if weight or a short bolt throw is a priority for you, that may weigh your decision for the 7mm-08. Both will solidly anchor your deer, but it's a tough choice and, as you shop about, you'll probably as to see or handle a rifle that "fits", that feels good in your hands and points naturally, and I encourage you to look for that. This is a win-win choice. Either one will serve you well. I enjoyed both but, personally, I enjoyed handloading for the 7mm-08 a bit more.

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