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You won't believe this: So three months ago, my friend and I set up a small snare in the woods behind my house, hoping to maybe get a little rabbit or squirrel. It was all for fun, and we didn't expect it to work. After a couple of weeks, we stopped checking it because it wasn't catching anything, and raised it off the ground so no small critters could get snagged. But today, after seeing many vultures behind the house, we found a DEER had been caught by the snare last night and had died. Now, I feel terrible that this deer had to suffer, but is this not the coolest thing you have heard of?

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from idduckhntr wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

NO. It is the most illeagal thing I have heard of.

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from neuman23 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Instead of raising the snare, it should have been removed. I'd also be careful what you post on the internet, could come back to bit you in the a..

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I am sorry to hear about this incident. But it is not cool. It is irresponsible. However, the fact that you are suffering remorse about it tells me that your
heart is in the right place.
Go forth and sin no more.

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from RockySquirrel wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Alex; If you made this up, I suggest that you recant it real soon. Game wardens regularly troll the web looking for guys who post pictures of bucks they poached and stuff like this. You may be trying to fool some old geezers but making up stuff on this site, but game warden types won’t be amused.

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from Greenhead wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Not cool. It is illegal and unethical. You should have removed the snare. I really hope you learned your lesson, but am sorry a deer had to die this way for it to happen.

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from country road wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Not cool! Snares are favorites of poachers the world over.

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from habben97 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

while you should have taken the snare down when you were done with it, that is pretty interesting. was it a buck or doe?

next time, make sure that your snare is placed in a spot a deer cant get to, such as under the last wire on a fence, or maybe in a small creek or ditch.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

No Alex it is the most UNCOOL ILLEGAL thing I have heard of. You should have a citation from your local Conservation Officer and yes I'm the Game Warden type.

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from steve182 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I'd expect a well deserved reprimand fro the game commission. Uncool.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

What you did if it is true is probably the polar opposite of what this site is about. To think it's cool shows a lack of character.

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from Alex Grimaudo wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Geeze guys, it was an accident. We did it as kids, and disassembld it so that no little critters could get caught in it. How were we supposed to know that a deer would get caught--it was raised 4 feet off the ground and was basically a limp string--literally a string made of fabric. The chances of this happening are miniscule to none, and the stars just happened to align. In no way was my intention to poach, or even to kill a deer. It was a little project my bud and I did while we had the Summer off from high school, and we THOUGHT we disassembled it after a week or so. You can't tell me that you didn't set snares when you were a kid--it's a part of growing up and learning about the culture of the outdoors. It was a simple accident and in no way do I feel like a badass for killing the creature. Obviously we should have taken the string out of the woods, but we have grown up in those woods and never thought anything like this would happen. Clearly it was an interesting (no matter how sad) thing to happen, and if you don't see that then you have lost all sense of childhood curiosity that ever existed within. Habben understands--while it is sad, and while it is a shame, it is still really interesting that it happened. It was a doe by the way. So before another person jumps on the band wagon by saying that I should be "reprimanded", realize that it was an accident, and that while I feel terrible for it happening, it is still a very interesting and astonishing thing to happen.

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from Alex Grimaudo wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

And I'm not really sure how you can say that it was "irresponsible" when I went out there and literally disassembled it so that nothing small could get caught in it, which I described in the original post. The responsible thing to do WAS to disassemble it, how the heck was I supposed to know that a limp string would miraculously snag a deer? The chances of that happening NEVER crossed my mind and I doubt it would ever cross any of your's. I THOUGHT I disassembled it completely, but clearly some poor, unlucky deer managed to, against all odds, wiggle her head into a 4 inch by 4inch space.

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from Greenhead wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Alex, I get the impression from your post that you are young and that you didn't mean any harm. I am writing this under the impression that you didn't know any better.

You screwed up, and an animal suffered a slow, needless death as a result. Whatever your intentions were when you moved the snare, you created a situation that lead to a wasted death. You claim that it never occurred to you that this set-up could harm a deer, and I believe you. However, regardless of your age and inexperience, by setting snares in the woods, you are engaging in a man's pursuit. Once you engage in an adult's activities, you have to use the same caution an adult would. No responsible trapper would have let that snare sit, unattended, in that position, and neither should you.

If you want to remain a child, and be judged by the standards society uses for children, that is fine. You seem to be at an age where that is still acceptable. However, if you tread in the world of men, be prepared to be judged by their standards. You can't have it both ways.

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from squirrelgirl wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I hope someone tells your mom and dad. If you were my kid I'd be mortified and you wouldn't be able to sit for a week without a cushion.

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from bruisedsausage wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

You shouldn't be trying to justify it at this point, but be critically thinking about why it was wrong. Not only do I agree with most everything in every post I'll add this; you are so Fu**ing lucky that a child(or anyone else for that matter) wasn't injured or killed while playing in the woods because of you and your friends insane level of stupidity. You obviously have no clue about how to properly set a snare. Don't attempt to set another...ever.

It's also not very astonishing or amazing that it happened. It's pretty basic actually. What's astonishing and amazing is your level of impotence in the matter, and the fact that you still can't see it.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Must be troll season again.

"How was I supposed to know ..." If you don't know what you're doing in the woods then stay at home with video games. Sometimes the unexpected does happen and pain and suffering is the consequence. But is never "cool." Period!

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from Bioguy01 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Lesson learned...if you leave snares in the woods, they will kill things. However, keep things like this to yourself to avoid trouble. Learning involves making mistakes...hopefully this mistake will not be made again.

This should also be a lesson for the folks who give advice on this site...when it comes to trapping, always encourage youngsters to learn from a seasoned veteran so mistakes like this don't happen. It was a deer this time...had that snare fallen to an appropriate height it could have been somebody's pet.

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from bruisedsausage wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

What would Sheila say about this???

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from ITHACASXS wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

You did something foolish. You tell us all about.You cast about for admiration of your skill. You ask everyone what they think and then whine and cry that they (we) don't share your secret thrill. The mark of a man (among many other things) is to take your lumps when you are wrong.

While we are on this subject; why do I doubt your account that the poor deer was caught ''last night''? You don't know when that poor creature was caught, nor do you know how long it was thrashing around in agony. Shame. Shame again, for not wanting to grasp the seriousness of what you have done.

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from Matthew Matzek wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Alex. From one young and hopeful outdoorsman to another, that is most definitely not cool. We are all responsible for all of our kills. Don't take that deer's slow and agonizing death lightly. I do find that a little interesting, snaring such a large animal, but not cool.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

In the first place it wasn't an accident. Webster defines an accident as " something of which we don't have any control" You difinetly had control of this situation. You said you were in high school so you aren't a real young kid. I think that the harsh remarks you are receiving from the posters including me is the fact that we see no remorse and the fact that you think it is amazing and the coolest thing that you have ever heard of. You need to stop and thing about the results of your actions before you act especially in life and death situations. And no not every kid set snares when they were a kid, I didn't.

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from ALJoe wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I'm with Sarge on this. No we all did not grow up recklessly setting snares. I did have a trap line with my father and grandfather. They taught me to never set a trap that you can not run EVERY DAY. Most of us are taught at a very young age how precious a life is and we should all take time to be thankful when we take one. No animal should ever be wasted. Also, if you noticed the buzzards the deer had probably been there for a lot longer than a day. So, to put it into words that your generation can understand "Hey man that was way UNCOOL." If it was no big deal then why didn't you take it out of the woods with you. Makes me believe you had hopes that you full filled.

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from Pathfinder1 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Hi...

We all know that you thought it was "cool", but...hopefully...you have learned that it was not "cool" at all.

I trust that future 'trapping' efforts will be supervised by an experienced trapper.

Also, be sure to regularly keep track of your state's trapping regulations. In many States...like here in NY, snares are not allowed.

You've been 'chewed out' by many on this thread, and I feel that now you realize that what was done is not acceptable, so I shall dwell no more upon it.

May any more of future trapping efforts be more professional. I think that they will.

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from Gary Devine wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Snares Stink and I hate them!
I shot a bear last December that was walking on three legs. It keep it's front leg up as he walked. I though he was hit by a car and wouldn't survive the winter. So I did a mercy killing on that bear.
The woman who weight my bear at the checking station, ran the bear's ear tag and lip tatoo on the computer. She told me the New Jersey Fish and Wildlife caught my bear two months earlier in October in a snare.
When the state game department can criple a bear I have the right to say snares SUCK!

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Alex the above posts pretty much say it all. Especially Sarges definition of an accident. Your response tells me YOU should not be trusted with anything more dangerous than crayons. I grew up when toys and play grounds were not "child proof". The up side was it culled the idiots out of the gene pool.

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from Ga hunter wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Lets see.... Snare in the woods hanging 4 feet in the air, young kids stand about four foot tall and deer (depending on the size) might stand around 4 foot tall. What could go wrong right?! I know you said it was an accident man but next time you have to think about what you're doing. Snares are good to use if you're a trapper but they can also be very dangerous! You've had enough chewing out it seems but next time you just have to think about what you do!

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I think Alex has gotten the message by now: the users on this website do not approve of his methods. His attempts to excuse it make matters worse.
It's like the motorist blaming his reckless driving on his being intoxicated.

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from Gary Devine wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I failed to mention in my earlier post, that I talked to a New Jersey Fish and Wildlife employee, who works in the black bear department. He told me thay use snares all the time to study bears because drum traps were to expensive. The State checks the snares everyday and sometimes they find yearling bear hanging in the snare half eaten by a larger bear.
State wildlife Agencys should ban snares. Do your research on the dead bears that hunters bring in to the check in station.
As far as the high school kid with the snare. You guys gave it to him real good. No need to pile on like they do in football after someone is already tackle.

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from habben97 wrote 1 year 21 weeks ago

read what I said on the other post titled " please read my last post regarding the snare" it is in the answers section

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from Todd Guittar wrote 1 year 20 weeks ago

Lack of forethought and responsibility are not "cool" nor interesting. Obviously the poor doe suffered due to you and your play pal's stupidity on your play date...I think you just earned a one way ticket outta the Wood's, Your Hunting license is hereby revoked for LIFE!!! It's knuckle-headed morons like you that set "childish curiosity " snares for a rabbit then end up catching a hunter or hiker instead!! You said you "disassembled it" Obviously not you Clown!!! Then you proceed to brag on a national website?? How stupid are you?? I'm curious??
You put your name to commission of a crime?
seriously, I would not be surprised if a game warden knocks on your door,If you lived in Massachusetts,I would call myself..I am a former Cop, Ignorance to the Law is not an excuse to break one.
The "Jackass" website is down the road, why don't you try your story there those D-bags would love it.
I'm sure by now you know it was stupid and we ALL did stupid stuff as a kid. However, WE didn't have the internet to blab about it on. Furthermore, If I bragged to my friends about said subject,they woulda kicked my ass... So,I believe you should stick to fishing,you seem to do well with fishing line. Stay away from mommy's ribbon's and definitely stay outta MY woods ! If I catch my ankle on a snare, you know who I'm gonna blame it on...YOU! I hope you learned what respectful harvesting of the land means... Your whole generation should just stay on the couch and leave the real harvesting to real men... Good Luck Killer...

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from Greenhead wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Alex, I get the impression from your post that you are young and that you didn't mean any harm. I am writing this under the impression that you didn't know any better.

You screwed up, and an animal suffered a slow, needless death as a result. Whatever your intentions were when you moved the snare, you created a situation that lead to a wasted death. You claim that it never occurred to you that this set-up could harm a deer, and I believe you. However, regardless of your age and inexperience, by setting snares in the woods, you are engaging in a man's pursuit. Once you engage in an adult's activities, you have to use the same caution an adult would. No responsible trapper would have let that snare sit, unattended, in that position, and neither should you.

If you want to remain a child, and be judged by the standards society uses for children, that is fine. You seem to be at an age where that is still acceptable. However, if you tread in the world of men, be prepared to be judged by their standards. You can't have it both ways.

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from idduckhntr wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

NO. It is the most illeagal thing I have heard of.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I am sorry to hear about this incident. But it is not cool. It is irresponsible. However, the fact that you are suffering remorse about it tells me that your
heart is in the right place.
Go forth and sin no more.

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from bruisedsausage wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

You shouldn't be trying to justify it at this point, but be critically thinking about why it was wrong. Not only do I agree with most everything in every post I'll add this; you are so Fu**ing lucky that a child(or anyone else for that matter) wasn't injured or killed while playing in the woods because of you and your friends insane level of stupidity. You obviously have no clue about how to properly set a snare. Don't attempt to set another...ever.

It's also not very astonishing or amazing that it happened. It's pretty basic actually. What's astonishing and amazing is your level of impotence in the matter, and the fact that you still can't see it.

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from ITHACASXS wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

You did something foolish. You tell us all about.You cast about for admiration of your skill. You ask everyone what they think and then whine and cry that they (we) don't share your secret thrill. The mark of a man (among many other things) is to take your lumps when you are wrong.

While we are on this subject; why do I doubt your account that the poor deer was caught ''last night''? You don't know when that poor creature was caught, nor do you know how long it was thrashing around in agony. Shame. Shame again, for not wanting to grasp the seriousness of what you have done.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

No Alex it is the most UNCOOL ILLEGAL thing I have heard of. You should have a citation from your local Conservation Officer and yes I'm the Game Warden type.

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from squirrelgirl wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I hope someone tells your mom and dad. If you were my kid I'd be mortified and you wouldn't be able to sit for a week without a cushion.

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from Bioguy01 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Lesson learned...if you leave snares in the woods, they will kill things. However, keep things like this to yourself to avoid trouble. Learning involves making mistakes...hopefully this mistake will not be made again.

This should also be a lesson for the folks who give advice on this site...when it comes to trapping, always encourage youngsters to learn from a seasoned veteran so mistakes like this don't happen. It was a deer this time...had that snare fallen to an appropriate height it could have been somebody's pet.

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from Sarge01 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

In the first place it wasn't an accident. Webster defines an accident as " something of which we don't have any control" You difinetly had control of this situation. You said you were in high school so you aren't a real young kid. I think that the harsh remarks you are receiving from the posters including me is the fact that we see no remorse and the fact that you think it is amazing and the coolest thing that you have ever heard of. You need to stop and thing about the results of your actions before you act especially in life and death situations. And no not every kid set snares when they were a kid, I didn't.

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from ALJoe wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I'm with Sarge on this. No we all did not grow up recklessly setting snares. I did have a trap line with my father and grandfather. They taught me to never set a trap that you can not run EVERY DAY. Most of us are taught at a very young age how precious a life is and we should all take time to be thankful when we take one. No animal should ever be wasted. Also, if you noticed the buzzards the deer had probably been there for a lot longer than a day. So, to put it into words that your generation can understand "Hey man that was way UNCOOL." If it was no big deal then why didn't you take it out of the woods with you. Makes me believe you had hopes that you full filled.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Alex the above posts pretty much say it all. Especially Sarges definition of an accident. Your response tells me YOU should not be trusted with anything more dangerous than crayons. I grew up when toys and play grounds were not "child proof". The up side was it culled the idiots out of the gene pool.

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from Gary Devine wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I failed to mention in my earlier post, that I talked to a New Jersey Fish and Wildlife employee, who works in the black bear department. He told me thay use snares all the time to study bears because drum traps were to expensive. The State checks the snares everyday and sometimes they find yearling bear hanging in the snare half eaten by a larger bear.
State wildlife Agencys should ban snares. Do your research on the dead bears that hunters bring in to the check in station.
As far as the high school kid with the snare. You guys gave it to him real good. No need to pile on like they do in football after someone is already tackle.

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from neuman23 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Instead of raising the snare, it should have been removed. I'd also be careful what you post on the internet, could come back to bit you in the a..

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from habben97 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

while you should have taken the snare down when you were done with it, that is pretty interesting. was it a buck or doe?

next time, make sure that your snare is placed in a spot a deer cant get to, such as under the last wire on a fence, or maybe in a small creek or ditch.

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from Ontario Honker ... wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Must be troll season again.

"How was I supposed to know ..." If you don't know what you're doing in the woods then stay at home with video games. Sometimes the unexpected does happen and pain and suffering is the consequence. But is never "cool." Period!

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from Pathfinder1 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Hi...

We all know that you thought it was "cool", but...hopefully...you have learned that it was not "cool" at all.

I trust that future 'trapping' efforts will be supervised by an experienced trapper.

Also, be sure to regularly keep track of your state's trapping regulations. In many States...like here in NY, snares are not allowed.

You've been 'chewed out' by many on this thread, and I feel that now you realize that what was done is not acceptable, so I shall dwell no more upon it.

May any more of future trapping efforts be more professional. I think that they will.

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from 99explorer wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I think Alex has gotten the message by now: the users on this website do not approve of his methods. His attempts to excuse it make matters worse.
It's like the motorist blaming his reckless driving on his being intoxicated.

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from RockySquirrel wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Alex; If you made this up, I suggest that you recant it real soon. Game wardens regularly troll the web looking for guys who post pictures of bucks they poached and stuff like this. You may be trying to fool some old geezers but making up stuff on this site, but game warden types won’t be amused.

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from Greenhead wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Not cool. It is illegal and unethical. You should have removed the snare. I really hope you learned your lesson, but am sorry a deer had to die this way for it to happen.

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from country road wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Not cool! Snares are favorites of poachers the world over.

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from steve182 wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

I'd expect a well deserved reprimand fro the game commission. Uncool.

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from Carl Huber wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

What you did if it is true is probably the polar opposite of what this site is about. To think it's cool shows a lack of character.

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from bruisedsausage wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

What would Sheila say about this???

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from Matthew Matzek wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Alex. From one young and hopeful outdoorsman to another, that is most definitely not cool. We are all responsible for all of our kills. Don't take that deer's slow and agonizing death lightly. I do find that a little interesting, snaring such a large animal, but not cool.

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from Gary Devine wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Snares Stink and I hate them!
I shot a bear last December that was walking on three legs. It keep it's front leg up as he walked. I though he was hit by a car and wouldn't survive the winter. So I did a mercy killing on that bear.
The woman who weight my bear at the checking station, ran the bear's ear tag and lip tatoo on the computer. She told me the New Jersey Fish and Wildlife caught my bear two months earlier in October in a snare.
When the state game department can criple a bear I have the right to say snares SUCK!

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from Ga hunter wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Lets see.... Snare in the woods hanging 4 feet in the air, young kids stand about four foot tall and deer (depending on the size) might stand around 4 foot tall. What could go wrong right?! I know you said it was an accident man but next time you have to think about what you're doing. Snares are good to use if you're a trapper but they can also be very dangerous! You've had enough chewing out it seems but next time you just have to think about what you do!

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from habben97 wrote 1 year 21 weeks ago

read what I said on the other post titled " please read my last post regarding the snare" it is in the answers section

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from Todd Guittar wrote 1 year 20 weeks ago

Lack of forethought and responsibility are not "cool" nor interesting. Obviously the poor doe suffered due to you and your play pal's stupidity on your play date...I think you just earned a one way ticket outta the Wood's, Your Hunting license is hereby revoked for LIFE!!! It's knuckle-headed morons like you that set "childish curiosity " snares for a rabbit then end up catching a hunter or hiker instead!! You said you "disassembled it" Obviously not you Clown!!! Then you proceed to brag on a national website?? How stupid are you?? I'm curious??
You put your name to commission of a crime?
seriously, I would not be surprised if a game warden knocks on your door,If you lived in Massachusetts,I would call myself..I am a former Cop, Ignorance to the Law is not an excuse to break one.
The "Jackass" website is down the road, why don't you try your story there those D-bags would love it.
I'm sure by now you know it was stupid and we ALL did stupid stuff as a kid. However, WE didn't have the internet to blab about it on. Furthermore, If I bragged to my friends about said subject,they woulda kicked my ass... So,I believe you should stick to fishing,you seem to do well with fishing line. Stay away from mommy's ribbon's and definitely stay outta MY woods ! If I catch my ankle on a snare, you know who I'm gonna blame it on...YOU! I hope you learned what respectful harvesting of the land means... Your whole generation should just stay on the couch and leave the real harvesting to real men... Good Luck Killer...

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from Alex Grimaudo wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

And I'm not really sure how you can say that it was "irresponsible" when I went out there and literally disassembled it so that nothing small could get caught in it, which I described in the original post. The responsible thing to do WAS to disassemble it, how the heck was I supposed to know that a limp string would miraculously snag a deer? The chances of that happening NEVER crossed my mind and I doubt it would ever cross any of your's. I THOUGHT I disassembled it completely, but clearly some poor, unlucky deer managed to, against all odds, wiggle her head into a 4 inch by 4inch space.

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from Alex Grimaudo wrote 1 year 22 weeks ago

Geeze guys, it was an accident. We did it as kids, and disassembld it so that no little critters could get caught in it. How were we supposed to know that a deer would get caught--it was raised 4 feet off the ground and was basically a limp string--literally a string made of fabric. The chances of this happening are miniscule to none, and the stars just happened to align. In no way was my intention to poach, or even to kill a deer. It was a little project my bud and I did while we had the Summer off from high school, and we THOUGHT we disassembled it after a week or so. You can't tell me that you didn't set snares when you were a kid--it's a part of growing up and learning about the culture of the outdoors. It was a simple accident and in no way do I feel like a badass for killing the creature. Obviously we should have taken the string out of the woods, but we have grown up in those woods and never thought anything like this would happen. Clearly it was an interesting (no matter how sad) thing to happen, and if you don't see that then you have lost all sense of childhood curiosity that ever existed within. Habben understands--while it is sad, and while it is a shame, it is still really interesting that it happened. It was a doe by the way. So before another person jumps on the band wagon by saying that I should be "reprimanded", realize that it was an accident, and that while I feel terrible for it happening, it is still a very interesting and astonishing thing to happen.

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