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I wish there was an ethics section to put this question in, but here goes.
If you were aware of a young person of either sex who wanted to learn how to hunt but the parents were/are against any kind of hunting, would you take the chance of talking to the parents and try to mentor the child in the sport or would you do nothing? Same thing goes for fishing.
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You can mentor without killing something. Start out leaving hunting out of it. Target shooting with rifles or clay birds with a shotgun. Teach the fundamentals-safety and enjoy the sport of shooting firearms.Hunting will introduce it's self when the situation arises.
The parents are probably animal lovers. I have never changed the mind set thinking of an animal lover. When you’re a kid and living under your parent’s roof you must play by their rules.
It sucks, but the kid can move out when he is old enough. He or she should concentrate on the school books and go to college. Get a good job and then leave the nest.
Hunting and Fishing will always be there until the day he dies.
I think you have to respect the parents Ideals even if you disagree with them, but there is something you can do, a lot of hunting has nothing to do with arms, learning to track, or even walking in the woods without sounding like clowns on parade. Teach woodcraft- species identification, you can start with a camera.the parents should not be against these skills.
I have a friend right now that wants to hunt and learn how to trap, but his mother is one of those that she just buys meat from the super market and talks herself into thinking that it is more humane than hunting
You shouldn't have a problem getting child into hunters ed because pretty much a gun safety class.
Respect his/her parents beliefs until that kid turns of age to make the decision on their own. Teaching them to shoot is probably out of the question also, judging by common sense.
I would answer any of the young person's questions objectively (preferably in a discussion held in the presence of the parents), but I would not counter the parents' wishes. If they object to shooting sports, that's difficult to counter, but if their objection is to hunting, we need to inform them that target-shooting is a challenge in itself and hunting is another choice.
The road to H#LL can be paved with good intentions. You did not mention if you were a friend of the family. I would be very suspect if anyone unknown to our family;that would want to mentor any of the minor children. Be it hunting, fishing, power rangers or puppy training. Anyone can bring a charge for whatever reason. EVEN if you have the purest of intention you might have to prove otherwise. Worst case you might not be able to live within 500 feet of a school.
Can't say about hunting and fishing, but if I ever came across a person of either sex, my first stop would be the doctor's office.
That just ain't right. Sounds messy.
This is not a situation that I am, or anyone else I know is in. I was just curious about what folks thought about a situation like this.
Most of the apprehension I've stumbled into was:
1. guns
2. killing
I would approach it in this direction.
I would address the child AND both(?) parents at the same time. I would respect the child's wishes. Should the parents change their mind, tell them that you won't proceed until hearing from both(?) parents.
"(?) single parent household"
There are just too many people who automatically connect "hunting" with "killing" and "death", which we as hunters know, don't necessarily happen each and every time. We also know that the choice for "taking" game is the hunters, it's isn't a prerequisite!
DUH!!! "I would respect the PARENT/PARENTS wishes."
A woman in my neighborhood recently told me that she had rescued a frog in her back yard that seemed to be in need of medical attention. She took it to a veterinary clinic and paid for treatment out of her own pocket.
She has no children, but if she were the mother of the youngster who wanted to take up hunting, she would probably have him/her committed to a mental institution.
99 are you located above the Mason/Dixon Line by chance? That is are you in the North?
If I remember, interfering with parental control is a crime in some states.
Wait until he/she is 18 and leave it alone.
There aren't any circumstances that I can think of where I would not respect the wishes of parents regarding their children.
I think if the parents were interested they would let you know. There are lots of kids you could help by volunteering such as hunter safety courses in the mean time. Respect the parents place even if your opinions differ,just asking would be confrontational to many parents.
Guys this is just a scenario, not a real life situation. I was sitting and pondering today and was struck by this question smack dab on the forehead and was wondering what you guys would do. I came to the conclusion that most of you seem to support which is follow the parent's guidelines/wishes. I am mentoring one young man who happens to be my grandson which keeps my plate overflowing and calender crowded. If I had time for more I would take them on in a heart beat. I think we owe it to the next generation(s) to do all we can to pass on what we have learned about the outdoors and nature.
If you know the parents good enough you may mention the availability of youth shooting programs, air rifle, rimfire, archery. You have to honor the wishes of the parents regarding hunting but the shooting program may be tolerable to them.
Ozark; I believe a lot of flak is raining down on you because the trend of today's society is to have other's raise our children. It used to be TV's, Movie's, School's, Churches, and Government basically all moved in the same direction. Today it's different. Having parents that were born in Nazi Germany, they showed me the danger of this. My Mom told me WWI vets didn't want WWII. They targeted the young and impressionable. Both my parents came to America in the 1930's to experience what freedom is. Today you have to be careful of everyone and everything. Case in point the song Pretty Woman used to be about a boy seeing a pretty girl walking by. Fast forward a decade and it's a movie how a Working Girl gets off the street and marries a millionaire. I will not even get into some of the more publicized dangers in today society.
I guess I found two guy's that don't believe that there are outside influences that you should be aware of.
Carl some people just do not understand!
Ditto Dcast, Maybe it's a nice way to live if they and their's are Lucky. If not they wonder how some tragic event could have happened.
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The road to H#LL can be paved with good intentions. You did not mention if you were a friend of the family. I would be very suspect if anyone unknown to our family;that would want to mentor any of the minor children. Be it hunting, fishing, power rangers or puppy training. Anyone can bring a charge for whatever reason. EVEN if you have the purest of intention you might have to prove otherwise. Worst case you might not be able to live within 500 feet of a school.
I think you have to respect the parents Ideals even if you disagree with them, but there is something you can do, a lot of hunting has nothing to do with arms, learning to track, or even walking in the woods without sounding like clowns on parade. Teach woodcraft- species identification, you can start with a camera.the parents should not be against these skills.
I would answer any of the young person's questions objectively (preferably in a discussion held in the presence of the parents), but I would not counter the parents' wishes. If they object to shooting sports, that's difficult to counter, but if their objection is to hunting, we need to inform them that target-shooting is a challenge in itself and hunting is another choice.
You can mentor without killing something. Start out leaving hunting out of it. Target shooting with rifles or clay birds with a shotgun. Teach the fundamentals-safety and enjoy the sport of shooting firearms.Hunting will introduce it's self when the situation arises.
The parents are probably animal lovers. I have never changed the mind set thinking of an animal lover. When you’re a kid and living under your parent’s roof you must play by their rules.
It sucks, but the kid can move out when he is old enough. He or she should concentrate on the school books and go to college. Get a good job and then leave the nest.
Hunting and Fishing will always be there until the day he dies.
Respect his/her parents beliefs until that kid turns of age to make the decision on their own. Teaching them to shoot is probably out of the question also, judging by common sense.
Can't say about hunting and fishing, but if I ever came across a person of either sex, my first stop would be the doctor's office.
That just ain't right. Sounds messy.
DUH!!! "I would respect the PARENT/PARENTS wishes."
There aren't any circumstances that I can think of where I would not respect the wishes of parents regarding their children.
I think if the parents were interested they would let you know. There are lots of kids you could help by volunteering such as hunter safety courses in the mean time. Respect the parents place even if your opinions differ,just asking would be confrontational to many parents.
If you know the parents good enough you may mention the availability of youth shooting programs, air rifle, rimfire, archery. You have to honor the wishes of the parents regarding hunting but the shooting program may be tolerable to them.
I guess I found two guy's that don't believe that there are outside influences that you should be aware of.
Carl some people just do not understand!
I have a friend right now that wants to hunt and learn how to trap, but his mother is one of those that she just buys meat from the super market and talks herself into thinking that it is more humane than hunting
You shouldn't have a problem getting child into hunters ed because pretty much a gun safety class.
This is not a situation that I am, or anyone else I know is in. I was just curious about what folks thought about a situation like this.
Most of the apprehension I've stumbled into was:
1. guns
2. killing
I would approach it in this direction.
I would address the child AND both(?) parents at the same time. I would respect the child's wishes. Should the parents change their mind, tell them that you won't proceed until hearing from both(?) parents.
"(?) single parent household"
There are just too many people who automatically connect "hunting" with "killing" and "death", which we as hunters know, don't necessarily happen each and every time. We also know that the choice for "taking" game is the hunters, it's isn't a prerequisite!
A woman in my neighborhood recently told me that she had rescued a frog in her back yard that seemed to be in need of medical attention. She took it to a veterinary clinic and paid for treatment out of her own pocket.
She has no children, but if she were the mother of the youngster who wanted to take up hunting, she would probably have him/her committed to a mental institution.
99 are you located above the Mason/Dixon Line by chance? That is are you in the North?
If I remember, interfering with parental control is a crime in some states.
Wait until he/she is 18 and leave it alone.
Guys this is just a scenario, not a real life situation. I was sitting and pondering today and was struck by this question smack dab on the forehead and was wondering what you guys would do. I came to the conclusion that most of you seem to support which is follow the parent's guidelines/wishes. I am mentoring one young man who happens to be my grandson which keeps my plate overflowing and calender crowded. If I had time for more I would take them on in a heart beat. I think we owe it to the next generation(s) to do all we can to pass on what we have learned about the outdoors and nature.
Ditto Dcast, Maybe it's a nice way to live if they and their's are Lucky. If not they wonder how some tragic event could have happened.
Ozark; I believe a lot of flak is raining down on you because the trend of today's society is to have other's raise our children. It used to be TV's, Movie's, School's, Churches, and Government basically all moved in the same direction. Today it's different. Having parents that were born in Nazi Germany, they showed me the danger of this. My Mom told me WWI vets didn't want WWII. They targeted the young and impressionable. Both my parents came to America in the 1930's to experience what freedom is. Today you have to be careful of everyone and everything. Case in point the song Pretty Woman used to be about a boy seeing a pretty girl walking by. Fast forward a decade and it's a movie how a Working Girl gets off the street and marries a millionaire. I will not even get into some of the more publicized dangers in today society.
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