true jay. very true. with shot placement, a 338 in the lungs is a dead bear. without shot placement, a 338 in the butt of a grizzly bear is a pissed off bear and a potentially dead hunter.
true jay. very true. with shot placement, a 338 in the lungs is a dead bear. without shot placement, a 338 in the butt of a grizzly bear is a pissed off bear and a potentially dead hunter.
.22lr and a grizzly, lol. Hope you ware clean undee's to that ordeal. I agree both are important. I like between the eyes or behind the ear. If you want to mount it, then heart and lungs. A well placed head shot takes um down. But, don't try it on a grizzly with a 22lr.
I've never shot a bear, but I've seen medium game hit with powerful cartridges and poor shot placement, and a buck can cling tenaciously to life with a poorly placed shot. I've seen game struck by "undernourished" cartridges with good placement, and the results were better. The sensible approach is not to rely on muzzle energy to compensate for suboptimum accuracy. Don't ask more of a cartridge than it's designed to deliver. Require good field accuracy and shot placement of yourself. The game deserves no less than a mercifully well-placed shot and a minimum of suffering.
Shot placement is the key to successful hunting. Using a sufficient rifle for the task at hand and knowing where to place the bullet will yield excellent results.
yeah you need both even assuming you have a .50 cal shoot a bear in his leg or arm and you have a mad bear wanting revenge then again shoot a bear in the heart with a bb gun you have the same thing. you need both takedown power and shot placement. reminds me of those idiot hunters who buy a 12 guage and dont bother realy aiming at the deer figuring it will go down becuase its a 12 guage. to many movies ive nevr seen a deer explode when shot with a slug
“So, I think that the superior killing power of larger rounds is largely in our heads.(likely testosterone induced) A flat-shooting round that you can accurately place will produce as many if not more "bang-flop" kills as a heavy caliber round.”
This is just my opinion but knock down power doesn't mean much to me. I use a .300 win. short mag. and if I hit a deer in the hind leg, the size of the bullet doesn't mean anything because that deer is going to be a mile away in a minute so what would you rather, not getting a big buck because you can't handle a gun or get that buck even if you don't have the bragging rights of using a .338.
true jay. very true. with shot placement, a 338 in the lungs is a dead bear. without shot placement, a 338 in the butt of a grizzly bear is a pissed off bear and a potentially dead hunter.
I've never shot a bear, but I've seen medium game hit with powerful cartridges and poor shot placement, and a buck can cling tenaciously to life with a poorly placed shot. I've seen game struck by "undernourished" cartridges with good placement, and the results were better. The sensible approach is not to rely on muzzle energy to compensate for suboptimum accuracy. Don't ask more of a cartridge than it's designed to deliver. Require good field accuracy and shot placement of yourself. The game deserves no less than a mercifully well-placed shot and a minimum of suffering.
This is just my opinion but knock down power doesn't mean much to me. I use a .300 win. short mag. and if I hit a deer in the hind leg, the size of the bullet doesn't mean anything because that deer is going to be a mile away in a minute so what would you rather, not getting a big buck because you can't handle a gun or get that buck even if you don't have the bragging rights of using a .338.
Shot placement is the key to successful hunting. Using a sufficient rifle for the task at hand and knowing where to place the bullet will yield excellent results.
yeah you need both even assuming you have a .50 cal shoot a bear in his leg or arm and you have a mad bear wanting revenge then again shoot a bear in the heart with a bb gun you have the same thing. you need both takedown power and shot placement. reminds me of those idiot hunters who buy a 12 guage and dont bother realy aiming at the deer figuring it will go down becuase its a 12 guage. to many movies ive nevr seen a deer explode when shot with a slug
“So, I think that the superior killing power of larger rounds is largely in our heads.(likely testosterone induced) A flat-shooting round that you can accurately place will produce as many if not more "bang-flop" kills as a heavy caliber round.”
true jay. very true. with shot placement, a 338 in the lungs is a dead bear. without shot placement, a 338 in the butt of a grizzly bear is a pissed off bear and a potentially dead hunter.
.22lr and a grizzly, lol. Hope you ware clean undee's to that ordeal. I agree both are important. I like between the eyes or behind the ear. If you want to mount it, then heart and lungs. A well placed head shot takes um down. But, don't try it on a grizzly with a 22lr.
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knock down power is NOTHING with out shot placement.
Of course you know this,don't you young man?
of course big o. my shots always take the heart and lungs out, so ive never had to pull them out!
Both are equally as important. shooting a grizzly bear with a .22lr in the breadbasket is going to have a different effect than a .338 win mag.
true jay. very true. with shot placement, a 338 in the lungs is a dead bear. without shot placement, a 338 in the butt of a grizzly bear is a pissed off bear and a potentially dead hunter.
true jay. very true. with shot placement, a 338 in the lungs is a dead bear. without shot placement, a 338 in the butt of a grizzly bear is a pissed off bear and a potentially dead hunter.
.22lr and a grizzly, lol. Hope you ware clean undee's to that ordeal. I agree both are important. I like between the eyes or behind the ear. If you want to mount it, then heart and lungs. A well placed head shot takes um down. But, don't try it on a grizzly with a 22lr.
I've never shot a bear, but I've seen medium game hit with powerful cartridges and poor shot placement, and a buck can cling tenaciously to life with a poorly placed shot. I've seen game struck by "undernourished" cartridges with good placement, and the results were better. The sensible approach is not to rely on muzzle energy to compensate for suboptimum accuracy. Don't ask more of a cartridge than it's designed to deliver. Require good field accuracy and shot placement of yourself. The game deserves no less than a mercifully well-placed shot and a minimum of suffering.
Shot placement is the key to successful hunting. Using a sufficient rifle for the task at hand and knowing where to place the bullet will yield excellent results.
you need both . bring enough gun and know how to put it where it needs to go
If I had to pick only one, it would be shot placement of course. But realistically, why would you not try for both any time you had the choice?
shot placement
yeah you need both even assuming you have a .50 cal shoot a bear in his leg or arm and you have a mad bear wanting revenge then again shoot a bear in the heart with a bb gun you have the same thing. you need both takedown power and shot placement. reminds me of those idiot hunters who buy a 12 guage and dont bother realy aiming at the deer figuring it will go down becuase its a 12 guage. to many movies ive nevr seen a deer explode when shot with a slug
I agree w/above. Shot placement, but you must have enough gun too.
Shot placement is everything! But you should still have adequite power in the gun.
nce again I must go back to ken.mcloud said best!
“So, I think that the superior killing power of larger rounds is largely in our heads.(likely testosterone induced) A flat-shooting round that you can accurately place will produce as many if not more "bang-flop" kills as a heavy caliber round.”
I must add "MOP!"
This is just my opinion but knock down power doesn't mean much to me. I use a .300 win. short mag. and if I hit a deer in the hind leg, the size of the bullet doesn't mean anything because that deer is going to be a mile away in a minute so what would you rather, not getting a big buck because you can't handle a gun or get that buck even if you don't have the bragging rights of using a .338.
SHOT PLACEMENT. YOULL BE DISSAPOINTED WITH THE AFFECT OF A .50 BMG IF YOU HIT A COYOTE IN THE LEG.
shot placement...if you shot a elephant in the eye with a pellet gun and it skipped on through to his brain..dead on impact
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true jay. very true. with shot placement, a 338 in the lungs is a dead bear. without shot placement, a 338 in the butt of a grizzly bear is a pissed off bear and a potentially dead hunter.
knock down power is NOTHING with out shot placement.
Of course you know this,don't you young man?
I've never shot a bear, but I've seen medium game hit with powerful cartridges and poor shot placement, and a buck can cling tenaciously to life with a poorly placed shot. I've seen game struck by "undernourished" cartridges with good placement, and the results were better. The sensible approach is not to rely on muzzle energy to compensate for suboptimum accuracy. Don't ask more of a cartridge than it's designed to deliver. Require good field accuracy and shot placement of yourself. The game deserves no less than a mercifully well-placed shot and a minimum of suffering.
This is just my opinion but knock down power doesn't mean much to me. I use a .300 win. short mag. and if I hit a deer in the hind leg, the size of the bullet doesn't mean anything because that deer is going to be a mile away in a minute so what would you rather, not getting a big buck because you can't handle a gun or get that buck even if you don't have the bragging rights of using a .338.
SHOT PLACEMENT. YOULL BE DISSAPOINTED WITH THE AFFECT OF A .50 BMG IF YOU HIT A COYOTE IN THE LEG.
of course big o. my shots always take the heart and lungs out, so ive never had to pull them out!
Shot placement is the key to successful hunting. Using a sufficient rifle for the task at hand and knowing where to place the bullet will yield excellent results.
If I had to pick only one, it would be shot placement of course. But realistically, why would you not try for both any time you had the choice?
yeah you need both even assuming you have a .50 cal shoot a bear in his leg or arm and you have a mad bear wanting revenge then again shoot a bear in the heart with a bb gun you have the same thing. you need both takedown power and shot placement. reminds me of those idiot hunters who buy a 12 guage and dont bother realy aiming at the deer figuring it will go down becuase its a 12 guage. to many movies ive nevr seen a deer explode when shot with a slug
I agree w/above. Shot placement, but you must have enough gun too.
Shot placement is everything! But you should still have adequite power in the gun.
nce again I must go back to ken.mcloud said best!
“So, I think that the superior killing power of larger rounds is largely in our heads.(likely testosterone induced) A flat-shooting round that you can accurately place will produce as many if not more "bang-flop" kills as a heavy caliber round.”
Both are equally as important. shooting a grizzly bear with a .22lr in the breadbasket is going to have a different effect than a .338 win mag.
true jay. very true. with shot placement, a 338 in the lungs is a dead bear. without shot placement, a 338 in the butt of a grizzly bear is a pissed off bear and a potentially dead hunter.
.22lr and a grizzly, lol. Hope you ware clean undee's to that ordeal. I agree both are important. I like between the eyes or behind the ear. If you want to mount it, then heart and lungs. A well placed head shot takes um down. But, don't try it on a grizzly with a 22lr.
you need both . bring enough gun and know how to put it where it needs to go
shot placement
I must add "MOP!"
shot placement...if you shot a elephant in the eye with a pellet gun and it skipped on through to his brain..dead on impact
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