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i got a call from a friend who was attending the Tanner Gun Show in denver colorado. a few minutes ago, he heard a gunshot and realized someone had been shot. he said there was a lot of blood and from what he could tell, a firearm had gone off when it was supposed to be unloaded. while the antis use someone else's tragedy for their own personal agenda, we should offer a prayer for this person and their family! just thought i'd let you know.
Question by jamesti. Uploaded on March 20, 2010
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This is a horrible tragedy by any count. It simply reaffirms what most of use who own and use firearms on a regular basis stress. Always check the action of any gun and keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction at all times.
Agreed there were a lot of basic safety rules that had they been followed could have prevented this tragic accident but I also agree that we should all offer our prayers that the person survives and has a quick recovery.
when I stop and think about it how many times do people at gunshows "assume" the gun is unloaded. A gunshow is many times the place where basic rules of firearms safety go by the wayside because "they are not allowed to be loaded" Unfortunately this is not the frst time and will not ne the last time...Prayers for the family of the shooter and injured party.
Sure hope he recovers. A local gun shop posts a reward for anyone that is caught putting a round into a chamber of a displayed gun.
Tragic. Made more tragic from the fact it was caused by being careless. Had the table proprietor checked the weapon before handing it to a customer, it would not have happened. Had the person cleared the weapon prior to pulling the trigger, it need not have happened.
If this was a deliberate act by some anti-gun person, slipping a live round into a weapon to create an incident, it was reprehensible, but such things do happen.
I fear that this will, indeed, create another round of anti-gun show propaganda from those who would condemn an inanimate object for the shortcomings of careless or malicious humankind.
Oh Lord, that is sad! These tragedies are easily avoidable, and I marvel when someone discharges an "empty" firearm. As a community, we know better...but I have seen some people handle firearms very badly and clearly something is missing in their orientation or training. I hope this isn't a fatality, but nothing good will come of it.
I'm Always been taught that threat weapon/rifle loaded at all times and check it for ammo, just in case it is loaded!!!My prayers are with the family and hopefully this individual recover from injury fast!!!
It is hard for me to fathom the chain of mistakes necessary for a person to get shot at a gun show. Hopefully he has a full recovery.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/man-shot-dead-at-gun-show/story-e6f...
The above article is a story about the shooting. The headline is in the link itself "Man shot dead at gun show." Then it goes on to explain he is recovering from a chest wound in the hospital. I suspect the headline is the authors way of grabbing your attention or a little anti-gun jab?
It was an accident. I have never heard of anti-gun nuts picking up a gun and shooting someone to make a point. Crm, if "such things" do happen, please provide a citation. That's the kind of crap the right to life fanatics would do, not the anti-gun idiots. The pro-gun lobby does itself only harm by casting these kinds of unfounded dispersions. It's no way to maintain credibility.
Ontario Honker-
You say cite an experience, here is a personal one. Several years ago, I found a Model 42 Winchester on the rack of a local gun dealer. I asked the sales lady if I might examine it, and she handed it to me without racking the slide. Out of habit, I released the slide and checked the chamber. I was glad I did, for I found a live .30-'06 round chambered in a .410 shotgun. The lady was disturbed, as she had recently shown that weapon to some individual who had examined it for some time, then handed it back to her and abruptly left, with no talk of price or sales negotiation.
Ex. 2- I was in the parking lot of a convention center with another gentleman who wished to examine an item that I had in my truck. (A Puma White Hunter.) While we were conversing about the knife, we heard a curious conversation near an adjacent vehicle between two people who seemed to be plotting to smuggle some loose live rounds into the convention center and show. We strolled up to the entrance and informed one of the sheriff's deputies at the door what had been overheard. When we pointed out the individuals standing in line to the deputy, he moved outside and questioned them, whereupon, they got out of line and left the gun show.
So, indeed, "such things" do happen. Fanatics come in all shapes and configurations.
good call, crm. i can see it happening. thanks for the link buckhunter. hadn't heard anymore about it since last night since i had to work early this morning. glad he's not dead. hey, is the new guy called buckhunterjr your kin or just a huge fan?
jamesti,
I haven't seen buckhunterjr yet but my kids are known to get on here.
One of the guys at this gun shop told me that a round was found in a gun on their display floor - thus the reason for the reward. Who knows the reason why someone did that. Could have been an anti, or an irate customer, or some wacko that got a warped kick out of doing it.
I can believe there are idiots who might fiddle around and put ammo in a display gun. But to simply lump them as antis is jumping the gun. That was my point. MLH is taking the high road. It will be interesting to see how this pans out. The news article I read said that security personell made sure that all the guns were non-operable when brought in. Frankly, I find that pretty hard to believe. What kind of a gun show would that be? Any vendor worth his salt would ALWAYS check the gun before handing it to a customer. I always did.
Wait, now that I think about it, that wasn't always the case. We did have a small rack of used guns on the floor that anyone could pick up. Kinda scary when you think about it. Those were the good old days on the frontier. Sure wouldn't run a gun shop that way today!
Ontario Honker-
Guns are sealed with a tie wrap on entry to a gun show in TX. Then, they are secured with a cable and alarm system that has to be unlocked, and sounds an audible tone when the circuit is broken. It would not take very much sleight of hand to insert a live round and either leave it or discharge it. Some people will do anything to advance their cause, or gain 15 minutes of fame.
crm, now that you mention it, the last time i went to this gun show, all firearms had to have a lock or tie that would prevent them from being chambered. if that was the case here, either this firearm got missed or the tie got taken off at some point. either way, someone really dropped the ball here. start with the owner who handed the gun over in the first place, then move on to the person handling it. both should have checked it. checks and balances everytime. this is what happens when you trust someone else to insure that a firearm is unloaded. if you are holding it, you are just as responsible for the safety of that firearm!
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This is a horrible tragedy by any count. It simply reaffirms what most of use who own and use firearms on a regular basis stress. Always check the action of any gun and keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction at all times.
Agreed there were a lot of basic safety rules that had they been followed could have prevented this tragic accident but I also agree that we should all offer our prayers that the person survives and has a quick recovery.
Ontario Honker-
You say cite an experience, here is a personal one. Several years ago, I found a Model 42 Winchester on the rack of a local gun dealer. I asked the sales lady if I might examine it, and she handed it to me without racking the slide. Out of habit, I released the slide and checked the chamber. I was glad I did, for I found a live .30-'06 round chambered in a .410 shotgun. The lady was disturbed, as she had recently shown that weapon to some individual who had examined it for some time, then handed it back to her and abruptly left, with no talk of price or sales negotiation.
Ex. 2- I was in the parking lot of a convention center with another gentleman who wished to examine an item that I had in my truck. (A Puma White Hunter.) While we were conversing about the knife, we heard a curious conversation near an adjacent vehicle between two people who seemed to be plotting to smuggle some loose live rounds into the convention center and show. We strolled up to the entrance and informed one of the sheriff's deputies at the door what had been overheard. When we pointed out the individuals standing in line to the deputy, he moved outside and questioned them, whereupon, they got out of line and left the gun show.
So, indeed, "such things" do happen. Fanatics come in all shapes and configurations.
crm, now that you mention it, the last time i went to this gun show, all firearms had to have a lock or tie that would prevent them from being chambered. if that was the case here, either this firearm got missed or the tie got taken off at some point. either way, someone really dropped the ball here. start with the owner who handed the gun over in the first place, then move on to the person handling it. both should have checked it. checks and balances everytime. this is what happens when you trust someone else to insure that a firearm is unloaded. if you are holding it, you are just as responsible for the safety of that firearm!
when I stop and think about it how many times do people at gunshows "assume" the gun is unloaded. A gunshow is many times the place where basic rules of firearms safety go by the wayside because "they are not allowed to be loaded" Unfortunately this is not the frst time and will not ne the last time...Prayers for the family of the shooter and injured party.
Sure hope he recovers. A local gun shop posts a reward for anyone that is caught putting a round into a chamber of a displayed gun.
Tragic. Made more tragic from the fact it was caused by being careless. Had the table proprietor checked the weapon before handing it to a customer, it would not have happened. Had the person cleared the weapon prior to pulling the trigger, it need not have happened.
If this was a deliberate act by some anti-gun person, slipping a live round into a weapon to create an incident, it was reprehensible, but such things do happen.
I fear that this will, indeed, create another round of anti-gun show propaganda from those who would condemn an inanimate object for the shortcomings of careless or malicious humankind.
Oh Lord, that is sad! These tragedies are easily avoidable, and I marvel when someone discharges an "empty" firearm. As a community, we know better...but I have seen some people handle firearms very badly and clearly something is missing in their orientation or training. I hope this isn't a fatality, but nothing good will come of it.
good call, crm. i can see it happening. thanks for the link buckhunter. hadn't heard anymore about it since last night since i had to work early this morning. glad he's not dead. hey, is the new guy called buckhunterjr your kin or just a huge fan?
Ontario Honker-
Guns are sealed with a tie wrap on entry to a gun show in TX. Then, they are secured with a cable and alarm system that has to be unlocked, and sounds an audible tone when the circuit is broken. It would not take very much sleight of hand to insert a live round and either leave it or discharge it. Some people will do anything to advance their cause, or gain 15 minutes of fame.
I'm Always been taught that threat weapon/rifle loaded at all times and check it for ammo, just in case it is loaded!!!My prayers are with the family and hopefully this individual recover from injury fast!!!
It is hard for me to fathom the chain of mistakes necessary for a person to get shot at a gun show. Hopefully he has a full recovery.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/man-shot-dead-at-gun-show/story-e6f...
The above article is a story about the shooting. The headline is in the link itself "Man shot dead at gun show." Then it goes on to explain he is recovering from a chest wound in the hospital. I suspect the headline is the authors way of grabbing your attention or a little anti-gun jab?
jamesti,
I haven't seen buckhunterjr yet but my kids are known to get on here.
One of the guys at this gun shop told me that a round was found in a gun on their display floor - thus the reason for the reward. Who knows the reason why someone did that. Could have been an anti, or an irate customer, or some wacko that got a warped kick out of doing it.
I can believe there are idiots who might fiddle around and put ammo in a display gun. But to simply lump them as antis is jumping the gun. That was my point. MLH is taking the high road. It will be interesting to see how this pans out. The news article I read said that security personell made sure that all the guns were non-operable when brought in. Frankly, I find that pretty hard to believe. What kind of a gun show would that be? Any vendor worth his salt would ALWAYS check the gun before handing it to a customer. I always did.
Wait, now that I think about it, that wasn't always the case. We did have a small rack of used guns on the floor that anyone could pick up. Kinda scary when you think about it. Those were the good old days on the frontier. Sure wouldn't run a gun shop that way today!
It was an accident. I have never heard of anti-gun nuts picking up a gun and shooting someone to make a point. Crm, if "such things" do happen, please provide a citation. That's the kind of crap the right to life fanatics would do, not the anti-gun idiots. The pro-gun lobby does itself only harm by casting these kinds of unfounded dispersions. It's no way to maintain credibility.
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