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Question by HUNTandFISHHARD. Uploaded on April 04, 2009
I would just unload into the bears face
I'm talking single shot
well, in that case, i would go for the mother of all controls, the brain, and then run like hell or find a spot where you know it can't get at you
pop it rite in the DOME!!!
right in the head
Hopefully that bear has a thin skull.... Aim for the face, nose/eyes/mouth. Know a story of a woman up north (Yukon or Alaska) was attacked by a bear while hiking and only had a .22-she unloaded that rifle IN THE BEAR'S MOUTH after it pawed her to the ground. Bear died. Still, even at 15 yards, might be safer to shoot in the air and hope to scare it off... shoot it in the head and DON'T kill it, might just make it angry....
Into the air or, if I was feeling lucky, up thru the nose - the thinnest path to the brain.
Unless bears elsewhere are different than those in the Rocky Mountains gunfire does not bother them much if at all. In fact grizzlys will come to a rifle shot since it must equate to an easy meal. Most charges are demonstrated with the bear moving toward you with a more or less head down position. They often are closing much faster than you would think possible. Thus shoot for the head, even if you miss maybe you will hit something vital although not likely. Desparate situations call for desparate measures and in North America a bear charge is about as desparate as it gets. An exception might be a cow moose since they tend to be more aggressive than the bulls. I have only been charged once by a bull moose and he was coming at 5 riders and 11 horses. Made quite mess.
With a 22 I would shoot for the head on any charging animal. If I had something bigger, I might aim for the neck and shoulders, but probably still the head.
A bears brain is small compared to the size of his head and located in the center of the head between and behind the eyes. Huge jaw muscles on each side give the head it's large rather rounded look. That said, the brain is the only thing to aim for if you hope to stop one with a .22 as the spine is even smaller and more difficult to hit. A hit anyplace else will just piss him off. BTW when you put the skull in a large pot and boil it a few hours those jaw muscles will fall off in 2 large sinewy chunks.
Now we've given you our thought, what did you or the person that was involved in the real thing do
Right between the eyes or possibly in the eye. Once you are charged the game is up. It's either kill or be killed. And I would turn that 22 around and use it as a club after that. Incidentally how did it work out for the other guy? I had a guy that killed one with number 4s at about 5 steps, after he wiped his drawers the G&F cleared him with a self defense shooting... and thats on a black bear, the nice ones....
i'd bust a cap in its dome!
i would shoot him right in the eye then run. if he was not dead i would beat his brains out with the gun
I think yer pretty much screwed. I don't imagine a big bear's skull would allow a .22LR to pass through. Maybe some parts are thin enough, but as Ish said, he'll be charging head down, so all you have is his dome - the thickest part.
So what's the answer?
Its fairly easy in my oppinion if you can kill deer or anything else with a 22 then you can kill a bear. Not to let you guys in on a secret but one of the few rounds that will penetrate "bullet proof glass" is a 22 LR or a 22 Mag.
i would shoot for the eye and at a upward angle if at all possable, it should make it to the brain.
Your buddy’s ankle and run like hell!!
Having examined a number of skulls I am confident a 22 long rifle bullet would penetrate to the brain on even a large Grizzly provided the shot is to the top of the head and straight into the brain. A big black bears brain is only about the size of a man's fist I might add. I have seen very large cattle brained with a 22 in a slaughterhouse. Brad is right about 22's penetrating well.
I'd hate to be hunting with you Coop! Ha Ha Ha. I'd shoot right between the eyes and run like a deer.
I was with my Dad and it scared me because when he swung his arms in the air it turned came back adn stared at us with an evil stare then he yelled and the bear took off I don't know why. Those answers are all really good. but he didn't actually charge me which was what I forgot to mention in the first actual question. Sorry!
People seriously underestimate the penetration of a .22. But, if you don't hit square ... all bets are off. .22s are very good at glancing off hard objects.
If you are charged by a bear and only have a single shot .22 you are better off using one of the many techniques available to stop bear aggression other than gunfire. Your best bet is pepper spray which you should carry if you spend a lot of time in bear country. The rest can be found by reading any of the numerous articles published on the subject. Try F&S archives.
If you are going to start shooting at bears with a single shot .22 then you should file the front sight off so it won't hurt so bad when the bear stuffs it up your -$$.
Jam the barrel in the bears mouth, then fire. At least if the bear is still alive it's mouth will be full and less likely to bite you.
i agree with shane, right dead in the nose
The only thing worse than angering a bear with a 22 is standing there and letting it knock the gun out of your hands with a bullet still in the chamber.
i would throw my squirrels towards it in an attempt to distract it and get away. but if it charged i would try to get it in the face.
I say the nose. Experience with large animals has taught me that no matter how big the animal, that nose is still sensitive, and just like people getting popped in the nose should make the bear's eyes water like crazy. If you miss and someone is with you, I'll take a page from the Clay Cooper playbook and say bust the stock over the other guy's kneecap and run. If you are alone crack the bear over the head with the stock and at least you will know you went down swinging.
Outdoor Life once published an article about a trapper who killed the 4th largest plains grizzly in the record book with a .22 pump, 7 shots though.
every animal has a weak spot, you hit that spot and you can kill that animal. I am a firm believer in this philosiphy and would drop that bear with a throat or eye shot.
"IF" the bear actually charged and all I had was a single shot .22, there's such a small chance of making a killing shot with that gun on a bear that I would just shoot myself. I am a cynical person though.
I'm sure that a .22LR could kill just about any animal on the planet. In fact, While working at Gander Mountain I met an African Guide who had killed numerous Elephant with a .22LR. However, and this is a big however, if a bear were charging you, I think that shot placement becomes a moot point. I think the difference between a "in the eye shot," a "up the nose shot," or a "between the eyes shot," is trivial given the circumstances. I think that if you had the presents of mind to aim and hit the bear at all, you would have more composure than most men in the united states. I would say, to heck with aiming, aim for fur and hope for the best...and run like hell.
An aboriginal woman by the name of Bella Twin shot the Alberta record Grizzly (scoring 26 5/16) with a single shot .22 back in 1953. She was picking berries with a friend, when the Griz charged them. She shot it from an offhand position, and it dropped dead right there. This is the longest standing record big game record in Alberta.
There is no good answer here. We butcher each fall and shoot the hogs between the eyes at point blank range with a single shot .22 LR and the slug never penetrates the skull, it's always laying under the skin, slightly imbedded in the bone. I have also seen similiar instances with black bear skulls. I saw one shot at point blank range with a .44 mag at a slightly glancing angle. The bullet entered in the face, skipped along the skull under the hide, and exited around the ear, leaving only a red streak on the skull and no breakage. It took several more shots to put the bear down for keeps. I took one with a .300 Win. Mag a few years back that did the same basic thing. The bear was treed at a distance of about 30 yards, facing me. I held for the nose and squeezed off. Apparently it turned it's head at the shot, as my 180 gr. Hornady interlock did the same basic thing, coming out around the ear, with no real damage. A second shot sealed the deal. Point being, I guess the .22 is better than a pine knot, but not by much, nor is trying to outrun it. That's why the Super Blackhawk goes along bowhunting.
Option #1 shot and then grab the gun by the barrel and use it as a club. Option #2 take out your pocket knife and hamstring your hunting buddy, then run.
Elkslayer, so true, you don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun your buddy.
right between my eyes
Right in the forehead
don't bother shooting and reach for the pepper spray...
Really, I'd aim for the brain, fire, and run like HELL!
Or clay's idea was good, shoot you're buddy's ankle and run...
fire a couple and then RUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shot to the brain
I say shot to the head!!!!!!!
Bullet in the face. Or shoot for the teeth and maybe you will just get gummed to death.
one shot from a 22-gotta hit it in the head
Im unloading on the bears dome! And hope that if it doesnt kill it it wounds the bear enough to stop charging at me.
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