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What is your biggest fear as a sportsman? A) Antis B) The positive feedback loop that will be created by the lack of funding for wildlife conservation that will occur over the next 20 to 30 years due to the loss of the baby-boom generation of hunters, and lack of hunter recruitment (The loop goes something like this: Loss of generation and lack of hunter recruitment--->license and equipment price increases to make up the difference--->loss of more hunters because they can no longer afford to hunt legally--->back to price increases to make up the difference) C) Getting attacked by a bear, mountain lion, wolf, bigfoot, etc. Personally, my most immediate fear is B.

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

When I was a teenager I became convinced that the 'antis' would begin to succeed in banning hunting, maybe one state at a time, and I would see at least the start of that in my lifetime.

That hasn't happened and I have somewhat lost my fear I will see it in this lifetime, congratulations to the effect of sticking together! So "B" is the fear but now in a special way: youngsters not picking up the sport means the 'antis' are more powerful by default, and what will happen then?

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from 86Ram wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

B lack of recognition in the part that Hunters and Fisherman play, Lack of the roles that Conservation organizations NWTF, DU, RMEF etc play. The Blatant lack of media coverage due to their bias. Kids not having the opportunities to hunt. The shrinking of places to hunt. The lack of young hunters to carry on tradition. All of those are my concern.

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from deerslayer2 wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

mine is congress banning hunting.

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from muskiemaster wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

C: I know those squirrels are going to turn on me some day for always spitting at them and occasionally urinating upon them for trying to sabotage my hunt.

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from steve182 wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

both A and B. The radical and rediculous left will stop at nothing to stop us.

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from country road wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

As is often the case, I think Elmer Fudd has a real good take on the situation. (B) leading to (A).

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from kyle wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

I have to say A and B, I could be wrong here, but I believe that one of the reasons we are losing the next generation of hunters is that more and more kids are growing up in the cities whereas older generation grew up in the country. Back in the old days you went hunting to feed your family. Now most kids feeding the family means heading down to the meat market. When the kids don't have the daily exposore of the outdoors then they tend to be misformed on how beauitful the outdoors are and taught be the city folks that hunter are evil and so what. Instead of parents exposing the outdoor classes to kids then are signing them up for soccer or football and so on. Also attending a bigger city, the teachers are mostly non-hunters and I believe they could be telling our kids at a young age that its wrong and mean to hunt animals and you should feel bad if you do. I'm not saying this happening 100% of the time but I think its a contributing factor.

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from steve182 wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

Kyle is exactly right. They get it from Teachers, TV, Hollywood.

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from Kentucky Hunter wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

B and A also

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from charlie elk wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

I have no "fear"
Fear has a paralyzing effect, rather recognize the danger, get up and do something about it.
Introduce a kid to the outdoors.
Convince a nonhunter you are not a threat, nor will you make any animals become endangered.
etc.

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from BioGuy wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

Very good points made by all...especially muskiemaster. I'd be a little more careful around squirrels...they have a tendancy to go for the nuts :-)

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from fractured100 wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

The answer should be obvious to anyone that has seen the "trail cam bloopers".... running into that clown in the middle of the night while camping. Just creepy.

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from LesserSon wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

If you are a biologist, you must recognize what inevitably follows a spike in a population. After the "crash", those of us left to pick up the pieces of the boomer generation's resource-exploitation orgy runs its course will enjoy a relative bounty of resources.

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from bucksavage wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

that "i" will be the one to mess it up...that maybe i will give the government, peta, joe blow, whoever reasonalbe doubt to react to hunting as a right and privilage. that i will not honor the kill regardless of size or "book" classification or that i would ever take a life for that reason. that i would leave meat on the ground that should be eaten or that i would have an animal died a death, less than they have earned, and that when i'm deep in the woods where only god can see, that i would do anything to disrespect his offerings. that i would conside myself any better than another fellow sportsman, who honors the same, ansd that i would ever think all these things on olnly possible with God and the protection we afford each other while banded together.

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from LesserSon wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

No Kyle. Hunting, and all values, start at home. If urbanliberalelitistteachers have so much brain-washing power, why would they work where they do, or at all?
My thought is the electronic entertainments, like this one, have superceded all the other pass-times, like actually fixing the shower, finishing the muzzleloader that's been in the vise for a year, reading with children.

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from LesserSon wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

It's not antis or liberals or any other bogeymen, it's civic laziness that will kill America. Our right to hunt, like all our rights, and natural resources, is eroded by a general "leave it to the experts, not me" attitude that is growing all over the country. Public land is leased to experts who can best strip it of its value to feed the consumer. What happend to the citizen?

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from BioGuy wrote 3 weeks 4 days ago

LesserSon - Indeed there may be a bounty of resources...fewer hunters in the woods = more game, right? But that's not necessarily a good thing, because it is hunters that fund wildlife conservation projects through the purchase of hunting licenses and sporting gear. So as hunter numbers go down, license fees and gear prices need to go up to make up the difference, otherwise wildlife programs get sacraficed (pheasant farms close, fish stocking decreases, research projects are eliminated, state lands are exploited for their resources, etc.) This type of stuff is happening all over the country already. Unfortunately, increasing prices is not conducive to increasing hunter recruitment, even if the bounty of the land is plentiful.

The primary objective of wildlife management is to balance the needs of wildlife with the needs of people, and it is done by working within 3 realms of influence: science, economics, and politics and it is a very delicate balancing act...more of an art than a science really. When any one of those realms becomes unstable, I believe Toby Keith said it best, "fit's gonna hit the shan."

By addressing that there is a serious potential future problem, we can start thinking of solutions now, and it all needs to start with funding. Find the money, and everything else will fall into place. With that said, anybody have any suggestions?

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from hunterkid94 wrote 3 weeks 4 days ago

b and c. I fear no anti.

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from BioGuy wrote 3 weeks 4 days ago

Lol...way to be hunterkid94 :-)

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from bigjake wrote 3 weeks 3 days ago

In the last few years its been the marijuana grow ops that have been popping up more that make me nervous.These criminals booby trap game trails around their "farms".Last fall a local drug enforcement team was walking a moose trail through the bush on route to a grow field spotted by helicopter, when the lead officer stopped and looked down.At his feet was a trip wire leading to the triggers of a sxs 12ga hidden in the bush.A hunter going down that same trail in the early dawn or dusk may not of spotted that wire....

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from deerslayer1234 wrote 3 weeks 3 days ago

Honestly B is scary, but geting eaten by a bear isnt high on my list of things to do.

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from Beekeeper wrote 3 weeks 3 days ago

Funding loss is my biggest worry, followed by being legislated out of hunting slowly by the left and right..

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from 86Ram wrote 3 weeks 2 days ago

I meant to say lack of recognition for the roles that these organizations rather than Lack of the roles that Conservation organizations NWTF, DU, RMEF etc play.
Because we know for a fact that they have done tremendously outstanding work on behalf of all of us and get little to no mainstream media coverage or recognition.

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from kyle wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

I have to say A and B, I could be wrong here, but I believe that one of the reasons we are losing the next generation of hunters is that more and more kids are growing up in the cities whereas older generation grew up in the country. Back in the old days you went hunting to feed your family. Now most kids feeding the family means heading down to the meat market. When the kids don't have the daily exposore of the outdoors then they tend to be misformed on how beauitful the outdoors are and taught be the city folks that hunter are evil and so what. Instead of parents exposing the outdoor classes to kids then are signing them up for soccer or football and so on. Also attending a bigger city, the teachers are mostly non-hunters and I believe they could be telling our kids at a young age that its wrong and mean to hunt animals and you should feel bad if you do. I'm not saying this happening 100% of the time but I think its a contributing factor.

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from Elmer Fudd wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

When I was a teenager I became convinced that the 'antis' would begin to succeed in banning hunting, maybe one state at a time, and I would see at least the start of that in my lifetime.

That hasn't happened and I have somewhat lost my fear I will see it in this lifetime, congratulations to the effect of sticking together! So "B" is the fear but now in a special way: youngsters not picking up the sport means the 'antis' are more powerful by default, and what will happen then?

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from country road wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

As is often the case, I think Elmer Fudd has a real good take on the situation. (B) leading to (A).

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from steve182 wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

Kyle is exactly right. They get it from Teachers, TV, Hollywood.

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from 86Ram wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

B lack of recognition in the part that Hunters and Fisherman play, Lack of the roles that Conservation organizations NWTF, DU, RMEF etc play. The Blatant lack of media coverage due to their bias. Kids not having the opportunities to hunt. The shrinking of places to hunt. The lack of young hunters to carry on tradition. All of those are my concern.

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from muskiemaster wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

C: I know those squirrels are going to turn on me some day for always spitting at them and occasionally urinating upon them for trying to sabotage my hunt.

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from deerslayer2 wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

mine is congress banning hunting.

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from steve182 wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

both A and B. The radical and rediculous left will stop at nothing to stop us.

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from Kentucky Hunter wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

B and A also

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from charlie elk wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

I have no "fear"
Fear has a paralyzing effect, rather recognize the danger, get up and do something about it.
Introduce a kid to the outdoors.
Convince a nonhunter you are not a threat, nor will you make any animals become endangered.
etc.

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from LesserSon wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

If you are a biologist, you must recognize what inevitably follows a spike in a population. After the "crash", those of us left to pick up the pieces of the boomer generation's resource-exploitation orgy runs its course will enjoy a relative bounty of resources.

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from BioGuy wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

Very good points made by all...especially muskiemaster. I'd be a little more careful around squirrels...they have a tendancy to go for the nuts :-)

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from fractured100 wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

The answer should be obvious to anyone that has seen the "trail cam bloopers".... running into that clown in the middle of the night while camping. Just creepy.

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from bucksavage wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

that "i" will be the one to mess it up...that maybe i will give the government, peta, joe blow, whoever reasonalbe doubt to react to hunting as a right and privilage. that i will not honor the kill regardless of size or "book" classification or that i would ever take a life for that reason. that i would leave meat on the ground that should be eaten or that i would have an animal died a death, less than they have earned, and that when i'm deep in the woods where only god can see, that i would do anything to disrespect his offerings. that i would conside myself any better than another fellow sportsman, who honors the same, ansd that i would ever think all these things on olnly possible with God and the protection we afford each other while banded together.

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from LesserSon wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

No Kyle. Hunting, and all values, start at home. If urbanliberalelitistteachers have so much brain-washing power, why would they work where they do, or at all?
My thought is the electronic entertainments, like this one, have superceded all the other pass-times, like actually fixing the shower, finishing the muzzleloader that's been in the vise for a year, reading with children.

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from LesserSon wrote 3 weeks 5 days ago

It's not antis or liberals or any other bogeymen, it's civic laziness that will kill America. Our right to hunt, like all our rights, and natural resources, is eroded by a general "leave it to the experts, not me" attitude that is growing all over the country. Public land is leased to experts who can best strip it of its value to feed the consumer. What happend to the citizen?

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from hunterkid94 wrote 3 weeks 4 days ago

b and c. I fear no anti.

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from bigjake wrote 3 weeks 3 days ago

In the last few years its been the marijuana grow ops that have been popping up more that make me nervous.These criminals booby trap game trails around their "farms".Last fall a local drug enforcement team was walking a moose trail through the bush on route to a grow field spotted by helicopter, when the lead officer stopped and looked down.At his feet was a trip wire leading to the triggers of a sxs 12ga hidden in the bush.A hunter going down that same trail in the early dawn or dusk may not of spotted that wire....

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from Beekeeper wrote 3 weeks 3 days ago

Funding loss is my biggest worry, followed by being legislated out of hunting slowly by the left and right..

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from BioGuy wrote 3 weeks 4 days ago

LesserSon - Indeed there may be a bounty of resources...fewer hunters in the woods = more game, right? But that's not necessarily a good thing, because it is hunters that fund wildlife conservation projects through the purchase of hunting licenses and sporting gear. So as hunter numbers go down, license fees and gear prices need to go up to make up the difference, otherwise wildlife programs get sacraficed (pheasant farms close, fish stocking decreases, research projects are eliminated, state lands are exploited for their resources, etc.) This type of stuff is happening all over the country already. Unfortunately, increasing prices is not conducive to increasing hunter recruitment, even if the bounty of the land is plentiful.

The primary objective of wildlife management is to balance the needs of wildlife with the needs of people, and it is done by working within 3 realms of influence: science, economics, and politics and it is a very delicate balancing act...more of an art than a science really. When any one of those realms becomes unstable, I believe Toby Keith said it best, "fit's gonna hit the shan."

By addressing that there is a serious potential future problem, we can start thinking of solutions now, and it all needs to start with funding. Find the money, and everything else will fall into place. With that said, anybody have any suggestions?

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from BioGuy wrote 3 weeks 4 days ago

Lol...way to be hunterkid94 :-)

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from deerslayer1234 wrote 3 weeks 3 days ago

Honestly B is scary, but geting eaten by a bear isnt high on my list of things to do.

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from 86Ram wrote 3 weeks 2 days ago

I meant to say lack of recognition for the roles that these organizations rather than Lack of the roles that Conservation organizations NWTF, DU, RMEF etc play.
Because we know for a fact that they have done tremendously outstanding work on behalf of all of us and get little to no mainstream media coverage or recognition.

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