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What's your opinion about keeping your children away from anti-hunting propaganda like Bambi and The Fox & the Hound? Is this extreme, or is it reasonable? Do these films have an adverse effect on childrens' future desire to hunt?
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I'd let them see the movies with you, so that you can point out the propaganda. That way, when they go see it with friends, they already know the truth.
I saw those movies when I was a kid, and they never deterred me from wanting to go hunting. I'd say that bringing them up around hunting and fishing will have more of an impact than a Disney movie would. (you forgot the Beauty and the Beast movie where the bad guy was a hunter as well)
My kids watch them all the time when they were 2 or 3 years old...My father and grandfather are true outdoorsman and they passed that legacy towards me and now is my job to let my kids have that piece of legacy. My kids love the outdoors and most of their friends do the same. I believe that movies like this won't deter a child from doing what he or she love to do!!!!!
My kids have watched those movies and have grown to be fine hunters. They realized they are fiction.
Disney I have come to despise in all ways, so the fact he was rabid anti-hunter fits fine.
Sad to think how good the very first donald duck etc cartoons were!
i remember i would watch those movies everyday when i was younger, and the fox and the hound and the size of bambi and his father made me want to huntt even more... i think their fine.
They make it look like hunting is bad. If you can get your son or daughter to watch real hunting videos they might fall in love with hunting easier.
Parents and peers will have a greater influence than the cartoon, so it really depends on what and how they're taught about hunting, what behaviors and attitudes are modeled for them. If an impressionable child watches these films and has no sounding board or reference for opinion or guidance, they could develop the belief that it is cruel to hunt. At some point, they learn that deer don't talk or process thought they way these films anthropomorphize them, and they realize a film is just a tale, a creative product. Of course, some never come to that conclusion and join PETA or limit their diet to nuts & berries. We live in an interesting world, don't we?
EJP, interesting indeed. Elmer fudd, i'm with you. I can't stand Disney and doubt if i'll ever spend a dime on Disney products for my kids. I will not disallow them to be exposed to it by friends or family, but i won't expose them to it personally. My wife supports me when i make such stands. It's no different than the rest of the trash Hollywood produces though. Can i boycott it all?
Personelly I like those movies. But you do have a point. Many ''antis'' in my school use bambi and stuff to try to make me feel guilty. It got pretty intense when I got my doe last year. They kept saying I killed bambis mom. They can get on my nerves so much.
You forgot to mention "Iron Giant" as well as other "Disney" blather.
My son gets all his toy guns and shoots all the deer in every disney movie he watches. Makes for a proud dad, I got to brainwash him before Disney even had a chance.
Disney animal films are not really different from any other live Disney film, which is like a lot of non-Disney stuff.
You want it to be entertaining, you have to have a plot to grab people. For kids, the Disney formula worked like magic.
One change I have noticed over the years. In older movies, there was always the dead mom, or the dead dad, even in comedies. They eventually used divorce instead for plots of single parents and "misunderstood" children. I heard that was because Walt was so against divorce, he would rather kill off a parent instead in a movie.
And I never stopped my son from watching any of that, nor did I preach about it, either. I taught him what I knew, he watched what he wanted, and still grew up to be reasonably well-adjusted.
It takes you /me as a parent to not shelter kids and to explain to them what's real and not.
I watched bambi (child): I still hunt, I refuse to watch it now because it like other movies to include open season tend to emphasize on putting my heritage down and downplays the role of outdoors people. That movie pissed me off worse than bambi does.
But if my son wants to watch the movies I won't stop him because in order to gain knowledge you have to learn to see all points of view. Where would we be if we were only taught hunting is about taking as many animals as we want with no consideration of the impact and environmental destruction.
I've seen both films dozens of times, and it hasn't stopped me from hunting. My children have seen them, and it hasn't stopped them, either.
I have to say, since it's told from a deer's perspective, Man the Hunter remains properly mysterious and dangerous in Bambi. Can't say the same for Fox and the Hound, where the message is really anti. You can throw "Open Season" in the same dumbster.
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My kids have watched those movies and have grown to be fine hunters. They realized they are fiction.
I saw those movies when I was a kid, and they never deterred me from wanting to go hunting. I'd say that bringing them up around hunting and fishing will have more of an impact than a Disney movie would. (you forgot the Beauty and the Beast movie where the bad guy was a hunter as well)
My kids watch them all the time when they were 2 or 3 years old...My father and grandfather are true outdoorsman and they passed that legacy towards me and now is my job to let my kids have that piece of legacy. My kids love the outdoors and most of their friends do the same. I believe that movies like this won't deter a child from doing what he or she love to do!!!!!
Disney I have come to despise in all ways, so the fact he was rabid anti-hunter fits fine.
Sad to think how good the very first donald duck etc cartoons were!
Parents and peers will have a greater influence than the cartoon, so it really depends on what and how they're taught about hunting, what behaviors and attitudes are modeled for them. If an impressionable child watches these films and has no sounding board or reference for opinion or guidance, they could develop the belief that it is cruel to hunt. At some point, they learn that deer don't talk or process thought they way these films anthropomorphize them, and they realize a film is just a tale, a creative product. Of course, some never come to that conclusion and join PETA or limit their diet to nuts & berries. We live in an interesting world, don't we?
I'd let them see the movies with you, so that you can point out the propaganda. That way, when they go see it with friends, they already know the truth.
i remember i would watch those movies everyday when i was younger, and the fox and the hound and the size of bambi and his father made me want to huntt even more... i think their fine.
They make it look like hunting is bad. If you can get your son or daughter to watch real hunting videos they might fall in love with hunting easier.
EJP, interesting indeed. Elmer fudd, i'm with you. I can't stand Disney and doubt if i'll ever spend a dime on Disney products for my kids. I will not disallow them to be exposed to it by friends or family, but i won't expose them to it personally. My wife supports me when i make such stands. It's no different than the rest of the trash Hollywood produces though. Can i boycott it all?
My son gets all his toy guns and shoots all the deer in every disney movie he watches. Makes for a proud dad, I got to brainwash him before Disney even had a chance.
Personelly I like those movies. But you do have a point. Many ''antis'' in my school use bambi and stuff to try to make me feel guilty. It got pretty intense when I got my doe last year. They kept saying I killed bambis mom. They can get on my nerves so much.
You forgot to mention "Iron Giant" as well as other "Disney" blather.
Disney animal films are not really different from any other live Disney film, which is like a lot of non-Disney stuff.
You want it to be entertaining, you have to have a plot to grab people. For kids, the Disney formula worked like magic.
One change I have noticed over the years. In older movies, there was always the dead mom, or the dead dad, even in comedies. They eventually used divorce instead for plots of single parents and "misunderstood" children. I heard that was because Walt was so against divorce, he would rather kill off a parent instead in a movie.
And I never stopped my son from watching any of that, nor did I preach about it, either. I taught him what I knew, he watched what he wanted, and still grew up to be reasonably well-adjusted.
It takes you /me as a parent to not shelter kids and to explain to them what's real and not.
I watched bambi (child): I still hunt, I refuse to watch it now because it like other movies to include open season tend to emphasize on putting my heritage down and downplays the role of outdoors people. That movie pissed me off worse than bambi does.
But if my son wants to watch the movies I won't stop him because in order to gain knowledge you have to learn to see all points of view. Where would we be if we were only taught hunting is about taking as many animals as we want with no consideration of the impact and environmental destruction.
I've seen both films dozens of times, and it hasn't stopped me from hunting. My children have seen them, and it hasn't stopped them, either.
I have to say, since it's told from a deer's perspective, Man the Hunter remains properly mysterious and dangerous in Bambi. Can't say the same for Fox and the Hound, where the message is really anti. You can throw "Open Season" in the same dumbster.
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