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Question by Elmer Fudd. Uploaded on January 25, 2010
" [the underwear bomber] spoke openly about what he'd done and why, and provided valuable intelligence...But when they read him his legal rights nearly 10 hours after the incident, he went silent. "
Well We ( the two of us and a few more here) are not that dumb no...but obviously the administration has handcuffed the hands of the people trying to protect our nation. Why not give the guy medical treatment enroute to another country escorted by CIA officials that would be to easy....We ar gonna get screwed big time sometimes soon if e don't wake up
Spelling sorry friggin laptop, typing to quick
I guess you would have to define "we." Clearly some of "us" ARE that dumb, and worse.
They are willing to get the rest of "us" (not them that are protected by government security details) killed for the sake of appearances.
That's our guy
Gees, it looked to me like this case wasn't that badly mishandled. Law says that law enforcement officials can legally decline to Mirandize a suspect if the case involves a possible threat of mass destruction. They wanted to ascertain whether there was any other bombs on other planes. Perhaps the head of the FBI agency in Detroit will be looking at a new posting in Nome, but other than that it sounds like they got the information they needed. Perhaps if they'd brought in the secret agent bulldogs, the bomber might have shut up sooner.
Lets not leave out the fact that Bin Laden just claimed responsibility for the "Thong Bomber" attack.
Apparently we have a leader who is way too concerned about America's image to the rest of the world. China doesn't care about what we think of their practices and they're the ones owning our debt. I love my country, but am sick of the government.
I didn't know the Miranda Rights applied to terror suspects. In any other war a soldier disguised as a civilian caught blowing up somethiing would be shot on the spot. I even think Geneva agrees with that.
Miranda rights are for US Citizens. Constitutional rights in general are for US Citizens. *only*
Legal treatment otherwise comes under Geneva Convention, but a guy like this is not even a soldier ...
What was missing here was coordination between the Justice Dept. and our intelligence services.
What was missing here was coordination between the Justice Dept and our intelligence services, and that was a colossal blunder.
The Justice Dept did the only thing it knows how to do: get the perp a lawyer and try to get an indictment for a criminal trial.
A man who has only one tool, a hammer, sees every problem as a nail.
We want to be careful not to sink to the same level as the scum we are dealing with. During WWII a POW camp was located not far from where I'm now living. It was hastily thrown together and the winter climate was particularly severe. To top it off, there was food shortages. But the guards ate nor lived any better or worse than the prisoners. Though the people in town had sons and daughters overseas being shot at by Germans, they stepped up to the plate to make life for the POWs as comfortable as they could. Those guys never expected that kind of treatment ... and they never forgot it. They were able to return to their shattered country with healthy minds, bodies, and attitudes with which they were able to rebuild a remarkable new nation (at least in West Germany).
Personally, I'm not recommending any particular course of action on this bad guy (though I have a few ideas of my own). I do believe that we have to rely on our "experts" to make these decisions based upon all the information that they know.
I am simply saying that there were a number of legitimate ways that this character could have been handled. I feel that ten hours was a rush to judgement. The decision of how to proceed should have been made cooly and calmly, and after all of the pertinent experts had been consulted. That wasn't done and I'm unhappy about it.
We ought to be getting better at this stuff by now.
Absolutely! People who were supposed to represent the best among Civilized people did something approximately 2010 years ago that sent a clear message regarding intelligence and man's destiny: People are nothing more or less than a bunch of monkeys and are absolutely at their worst when they band together and do something political!
When our enlightened government dropped the enemy combatant term and decided to give citizen rights to those from foreign lands who want to kill us, we took an enormous step backward in protection for our legitimate citizenry. I've said this for many years but it bears repeating here; politicians have no business deciding policy in war time. This man has to be forced to tell us what he knows, where he was trained and how we can get there. When you have the mind set to destroy 200-300 innocent people for no reason except to make a point, you give up all human rights and need to treated as the animal that you are.
Apparently, obummer, Nepolatano, and the coterie of idiots and leftists he has gathered to him, are this dumb. Perusing the answers I see here, We The People were dumb only in the selection of the government we did not elect!
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