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Bear attack number five of this year around Cody, WY occured today. Man OK, sow dead with as many as five gunshot wounds, G & F searching for 2 or 3 remaining cubs. Four friends hunted around Moran, WY last week and averaged more grizzley sightings per day than elk. There are now lots of elk in the northern deserts on ranches which obviously abandoned the mountains due to predation. Wolves also abound. Anyone see a lack of proper wildlife management here? Check the online Billings Gazette tomorrow for more on the current bear story.
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sounds like they have a bear problem. is there a season for bears there?
Ish - bears and wolves are one of the reasons I chose to hunt the big horn mountains this year. We did run into a wolf track but did not see any wolves or bears. I shot a nice 5 x 5 which I uploaded under my profile if you care to look. The warm weather really had the elk scattered. We hunted as high as 11,000 ft and there were elk and as low as 7000 and there were elk. The guys in camp were telling me if you kill an elk over in grizzly country you have to stand guard to fend off the bears. The bears run to the gunshot now expecting an easy meal. I was also told that you have to pack out the entire elk including guts so the bears will not get conditioned to the gunshot/free meal scenario.
Found the article...
http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/article_d4f6e...
"In the latest encounter, on Wednesday, a hunter west of Cody, Wyo. reported to authorities that he was attacked by a bear and killed the animal in self-defense. The man, whose name was not available, suffered lacerations to his leg, but the injuries were not considered life-threatening."
"Despite their growing numbers, Yellowstone-area bears remain protected as an endangered species. The U.S. Fish and Widlife Service took away those protections in 2007, but they were restored last year by a federal judge in Missoula."
Jay: I looked over your elk a couple days ago. Congratulations. I have two friends who shoot nice bulls in the Big Horns this year both with bows. Both required about two weeks hunting not counting preseason scouting. Supposedly there are no griz in this eastern most range of the Rockies. Meanwhile over here in the Absorkas and nearby areas the situation is much as you describe and has been since back in the seventies when the grizzleys were originally listed. The 2007 date Pighunter notes was only a minor burp in the Fed's indecisive and poorly planned management program. Oh well like all predators if they leave me alone I leave them alone...
Obviously you need a bear hunt out there. The damnable bunny huggers have gotten their own in the courts. That is the problem.
Wam got a fat cow elk yesterday. Bee and I saw a monster bull but got no shots. He busted me but I had time to set up my spotter and look him over at about 5-600 yd. Looong beams and brow tynes and had an odd point on one side. Either a 6X7 or a 5X6 not sure but huge rack. He really hauled it out of there and ran by Bee at 400 yds.
PigHunter - Thanks for digging up the article in the Billings newspaper. I like the part where the Government scientists say the bears are unlikely to be impacted by the loss of the whitebark pine nuts as a food source because they can adapt to the change.
It is easy to see that the decision to keep the bear population on a positive "trajectory" was made from the safety of tall office buildings.
Del: Driving to the trail head we pass a field 30 miles from the mountains which contains about 200 elk including approximately 20 bulls. At least ten of these will make 350 B & C with one old boy that has got to be 400. Actually the owner of that ranch killed a 397 in the trees along the river last year. Nope he don't allow you or me huntin' on his land. Anyway in the mountains I am only finding raghorns and cows. I don't need a small bull and I have a late cow tag for meat so might wind up eating this license. It won't be the first time. You can't kill a big one if you keep shooting little ones.
Keep the 338 close at hand.
I've seen much more sign of bear activity in the Wind River Range this year than last and more then than the year before. I agree that the dry conditions and absence of snow has the elk scarce.
Sourdough: As you most likely are aware our Sunlight Basin/Crandall areas had the general season totally removed beginning this year with only a few limited draw permits available for that season. A local biologist for the G & F flew both areas for an elk count about a month ago. His total was zero although he did see some in the Lamar Valley. Consequently my dentist did somehow draw a Crandall permit and shot a decent 6 x 6 the third day of his hunt. He said it was the only elk he saw.
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Ish - bears and wolves are one of the reasons I chose to hunt the big horn mountains this year. We did run into a wolf track but did not see any wolves or bears. I shot a nice 5 x 5 which I uploaded under my profile if you care to look. The warm weather really had the elk scattered. We hunted as high as 11,000 ft and there were elk and as low as 7000 and there were elk. The guys in camp were telling me if you kill an elk over in grizzly country you have to stand guard to fend off the bears. The bears run to the gunshot now expecting an easy meal. I was also told that you have to pack out the entire elk including guts so the bears will not get conditioned to the gunshot/free meal scenario.
Found the article...
http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/article_d4f6e...
"In the latest encounter, on Wednesday, a hunter west of Cody, Wyo. reported to authorities that he was attacked by a bear and killed the animal in self-defense. The man, whose name was not available, suffered lacerations to his leg, but the injuries were not considered life-threatening."
"Despite their growing numbers, Yellowstone-area bears remain protected as an endangered species. The U.S. Fish and Widlife Service took away those protections in 2007, but they were restored last year by a federal judge in Missoula."
Jay: I looked over your elk a couple days ago. Congratulations. I have two friends who shoot nice bulls in the Big Horns this year both with bows. Both required about two weeks hunting not counting preseason scouting. Supposedly there are no griz in this eastern most range of the Rockies. Meanwhile over here in the Absorkas and nearby areas the situation is much as you describe and has been since back in the seventies when the grizzleys were originally listed. The 2007 date Pighunter notes was only a minor burp in the Fed's indecisive and poorly planned management program. Oh well like all predators if they leave me alone I leave them alone...
sounds like they have a bear problem. is there a season for bears there?
Obviously you need a bear hunt out there. The damnable bunny huggers have gotten their own in the courts. That is the problem.
Wam got a fat cow elk yesterday. Bee and I saw a monster bull but got no shots. He busted me but I had time to set up my spotter and look him over at about 5-600 yd. Looong beams and brow tynes and had an odd point on one side. Either a 6X7 or a 5X6 not sure but huge rack. He really hauled it out of there and ran by Bee at 400 yds.
PigHunter - Thanks for digging up the article in the Billings newspaper. I like the part where the Government scientists say the bears are unlikely to be impacted by the loss of the whitebark pine nuts as a food source because they can adapt to the change.
It is easy to see that the decision to keep the bear population on a positive "trajectory" was made from the safety of tall office buildings.
Del: Driving to the trail head we pass a field 30 miles from the mountains which contains about 200 elk including approximately 20 bulls. At least ten of these will make 350 B & C with one old boy that has got to be 400. Actually the owner of that ranch killed a 397 in the trees along the river last year. Nope he don't allow you or me huntin' on his land. Anyway in the mountains I am only finding raghorns and cows. I don't need a small bull and I have a late cow tag for meat so might wind up eating this license. It won't be the first time. You can't kill a big one if you keep shooting little ones.
Keep the 338 close at hand.
I've seen much more sign of bear activity in the Wind River Range this year than last and more then than the year before. I agree that the dry conditions and absence of snow has the elk scarce.
Sourdough: As you most likely are aware our Sunlight Basin/Crandall areas had the general season totally removed beginning this year with only a few limited draw permits available for that season. A local biologist for the G & F flew both areas for an elk count about a month ago. His total was zero although he did see some in the Lamar Valley. Consequently my dentist did somehow draw a Crandall permit and shot a decent 6 x 6 the third day of his hunt. He said it was the only elk he saw.
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