Stick carry the extra weight and if you are shooting more that 6 rounds then you have a problem besides the gun. Also use a good controlled expansion bullet or lfn, you want the bullet to penetrate and do massive damage all the way not go in 8 in and stop. When it comes to caliber if you can comfortably shot the .44 and are confident in the gun then take it but if you aren't take the 10mm. A smaller gun that you can hit a bear with is alway better than a big gun that you have to literally hit the bear with.
If it has to be a handgun, I would go with the S&W .44 Mag. because you would not be likely to get off more than one or two shots at a charging grizzly.
The .44 mag with heavy hard cast bullets is an absolute minimum for grizzlies. Leave the autos and hollow points at home. A large magazine won't do you any good if you only have time for one or two shots.
What's with the -1?
I would prefer hollow points to solids because when a bear is charging you he is headlong, so if I have to shoot him I would want to do as much damage as possible.
Dallas, the 10mm has been likened to a .44magnum during ballistics test, however a handgun would not be my first choice for bear protection, especially grizzly.
I would recommend hardcast bullets, like the ones from Buffalobore 220 gr. Hard Cast - FN (1200 fps/ME 703 ft. lbs.(from their web site) you need penetration, and these guys punch! Hollow points would deflect right off of a big boar grz. head!
I would be carrying my marlin .45-70 with hardcast 430grain as a min.
I would leave the bear spray at home. I know I will get a lot of flak on this, but the problem with bear spray is the effective range, 30 40 feet, which is not enough if a big bear is charging you. they can reach speeds over 35mph, can weigh over 600 pounds, and DO NOT STOP ON A DIME! If you wait until they are 30 feet away you might be able to get off a spray shot, but that will only add peeper sauce to the grizzly afternoon snack!don't believe me? try a little role play with one of your friends charging you, and see how long it takes them to stop, now multiply the speed and weight to a bears!
Don't forget to wear your bear bells. The easiest way to tell black bear from grizzly sign is grizzly scat has bear bells in it. Lots of shots is more comforting to me than higher power. A pistol is way more comforting than bear spray at close quarters.
Must be lots of expert crackshot marksmen here that could draw and hit a charging grizzly good enough to kill it. I'll stick with bear spray. Last thing I want strapped to my leg is a hand cannon. After the first 1000ft ascend at 8,000ft you'll be wishing you left the handgun at home.
I have bear sprayed grizzlies on 2 different occasions in bc one was young bear probably just away from mom who got too curious when I as fishing and a big boar who followed me and my cuz on our way back to the cabin. Both did not charge so it was pretty effective. But I will add that I always carry a gun and both times a person with me had my .45-70 with the instruction to shoot if the bear moves any closer after I sprayed. Take with you what you can and don't rely on spray alone if you have a gun. A big rifle or shotgun is best. the .44 is better(if you can shoot it) than the 10MM but still not ideal. Take what you feel confident in shooting. Again a big gun does you no good it you can't hit the broad side of a barn with it at the range not to mention with a Gigantic bear charging at you.
When I worked in the backcountry in Alaska, we always traveled in pairs. Both carried bear spray and one of the pair always had a Browning 45-70 or 12 gage 870 with slugs. I even carried bear spray and a rifle/shotgun to the privy.
We had to spray bears twice over the three years I was there. All were yearlings, inexperienced, and not showing enough fear. We were never actually charged. But, when they're following and you're backing up, it's a scary scene. I would never shoot a griz unless their was no other choice. They are one of the most incredible animals you'll ever see. As far as a gun, when the rubber hits the road at 25 yards, I can tell you that I'm a much better snap shooter with a long gun than a pistol.
Every time this comes up I can't help but think about my favorite quote from one of the old-timers:
"I ain't fixing to defend myself with a pistol because I don't wanna die with my ears ringing."
id feel comfortable with a .375...but if a handgun is a must, the .44 mag is what you need, not sure how many projectiles you plan on getting off on a charging grizz in the bush.
More rounds if the bruin gives you the chance to get them off, but the very bottom of the list of calibers that could effective as anti-bear protection. I carry a .44 mag that even isn't a sure bet. A .454 Cas. or .460 Ruger would be even better.
I have bear sprayed grizzlies on 2 different occasions in bc one was young bear probably just away from mom who got too curious when I as fishing and a big boar who followed me and my cuz on our way back to the cabin. Both did not charge so it was pretty effective. But I will add that I always carry a gun and both times a person with me had my .45-70 with the instruction to shoot if the bear moves any closer after I sprayed. Take with you what you can and don't rely on spray alone if you have a gun. A big rifle or shotgun is best. the .44 is better(if you can shoot it) than the 10MM but still not ideal. Take what you feel confident in shooting. Again a big gun does you no good it you can't hit the broad side of a barn with it at the range not to mention with a Gigantic bear charging at you.
The .44 mag with heavy hard cast bullets is an absolute minimum for grizzlies. Leave the autos and hollow points at home. A large magazine won't do you any good if you only have time for one or two shots.
Must be lots of expert crackshot marksmen here that could draw and hit a charging grizzly good enough to kill it. I'll stick with bear spray. Last thing I want strapped to my leg is a hand cannon. After the first 1000ft ascend at 8,000ft you'll be wishing you left the handgun at home.
Every time this comes up I can't help but think about my favorite quote from one of the old-timers:
"I ain't fixing to defend myself with a pistol because I don't wanna die with my ears ringing."
I would recommend hardcast bullets, like the ones from Buffalobore 220 gr. Hard Cast - FN (1200 fps/ME 703 ft. lbs.(from their web site) you need penetration, and these guys punch! Hollow points would deflect right off of a big boar grz. head!
I would be carrying my marlin .45-70 with hardcast 430grain as a min.
Don't forget to wear your bear bells. The easiest way to tell black bear from grizzly sign is grizzly scat has bear bells in it. Lots of shots is more comforting to me than higher power. A pistol is way more comforting than bear spray at close quarters.
When I worked in the backcountry in Alaska, we always traveled in pairs. Both carried bear spray and one of the pair always had a Browning 45-70 or 12 gage 870 with slugs. I even carried bear spray and a rifle/shotgun to the privy.
We had to spray bears twice over the three years I was there. All were yearlings, inexperienced, and not showing enough fear. We were never actually charged. But, when they're following and you're backing up, it's a scary scene. I would never shoot a griz unless their was no other choice. They are one of the most incredible animals you'll ever see. As far as a gun, when the rubber hits the road at 25 yards, I can tell you that I'm a much better snap shooter with a long gun than a pistol.
id feel comfortable with a .375...but if a handgun is a must, the .44 mag is what you need, not sure how many projectiles you plan on getting off on a charging grizz in the bush.
More rounds if the bruin gives you the chance to get them off, but the very bottom of the list of calibers that could effective as anti-bear protection. I carry a .44 mag that even isn't a sure bet. A .454 Cas. or .460 Ruger would be even better.
Stick carry the extra weight and if you are shooting more that 6 rounds then you have a problem besides the gun. Also use a good controlled expansion bullet or lfn, you want the bullet to penetrate and do massive damage all the way not go in 8 in and stop. When it comes to caliber if you can comfortably shot the .44 and are confident in the gun then take it but if you aren't take the 10mm. A smaller gun that you can hit a bear with is alway better than a big gun that you have to literally hit the bear with.
If it has to be a handgun, I would go with the S&W .44 Mag. because you would not be likely to get off more than one or two shots at a charging grizzly.
I would leave the bear spray at home. I know I will get a lot of flak on this, but the problem with bear spray is the effective range, 30 40 feet, which is not enough if a big bear is charging you. they can reach speeds over 35mph, can weigh over 600 pounds, and DO NOT STOP ON A DIME! If you wait until they are 30 feet away you might be able to get off a spray shot, but that will only add peeper sauce to the grizzly afternoon snack!don't believe me? try a little role play with one of your friends charging you, and see how long it takes them to stop, now multiply the speed and weight to a bears!
What's with the -1?
I would prefer hollow points to solids because when a bear is charging you he is headlong, so if I have to shoot him I would want to do as much damage as possible.
Dallas, the 10mm has been likened to a .44magnum during ballistics test, however a handgun would not be my first choice for bear protection, especially grizzly.
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A 10 gauge would be my first choice over 10mm, however it is an adequate caliber for bear, but make sure you have good hollow points.
I wouldn't use hollow points for bear you need a good solid or heavy soft point. HSM, Hornady, Buffalo Bore and Grizzly make good ammo.
Stick carry the extra weight and if you are shooting more that 6 rounds then you have a problem besides the gun. Also use a good controlled expansion bullet or lfn, you want the bullet to penetrate and do massive damage all the way not go in 8 in and stop. When it comes to caliber if you can comfortably shot the .44 and are confident in the gun then take it but if you aren't take the 10mm. A smaller gun that you can hit a bear with is alway better than a big gun that you have to literally hit the bear with.
A Glock/30-10MM/17+1,Its a fine choice for Back-up in Grizz-country, Hornady or Winchester Silver-Tips would my pick....Good luck with your Glock.
what about bear spray?
what about bear spray?
Leave the gun at home and carry bear spray.
Leave the gun at home and carry bear spray.
If it has to be a handgun, I would go with the S&W .44 Mag. because you would not be likely to get off more than one or two shots at a charging grizzly.
Can you find 300+ grain fodder for a 10? No grizzly or 10mm experience but I'd want all the bullet weight I could find.
The smallest handgun I would feel comfortable carrying for bear defense is a .45 acp.
The .44 mag with heavy hard cast bullets is an absolute minimum for grizzlies. Leave the autos and hollow points at home. A large magazine won't do you any good if you only have time for one or two shots.
What's with the -1?
I would prefer hollow points to solids because when a bear is charging you he is headlong, so if I have to shoot him I would want to do as much damage as possible.
Dallas, the 10mm has been likened to a .44magnum during ballistics test, however a handgun would not be my first choice for bear protection, especially grizzly.
I would recommend hardcast bullets, like the ones from Buffalobore 220 gr. Hard Cast - FN (1200 fps/ME 703 ft. lbs.(from their web site) you need penetration, and these guys punch! Hollow points would deflect right off of a big boar grz. head!
I would be carrying my marlin .45-70 with hardcast 430grain as a min.
I would leave the bear spray at home. I know I will get a lot of flak on this, but the problem with bear spray is the effective range, 30 40 feet, which is not enough if a big bear is charging you. they can reach speeds over 35mph, can weigh over 600 pounds, and DO NOT STOP ON A DIME! If you wait until they are 30 feet away you might be able to get off a spray shot, but that will only add peeper sauce to the grizzly afternoon snack!don't believe me? try a little role play with one of your friends charging you, and see how long it takes them to stop, now multiply the speed and weight to a bears!
The answers from the eastern deer hunters are very entertaining.
WA M- i ask you to take note that I didn't answer this question....
Don't forget to wear your bear bells. The easiest way to tell black bear from grizzly sign is grizzly scat has bear bells in it. Lots of shots is more comforting to me than higher power. A pistol is way more comforting than bear spray at close quarters.
Again, NO grizzly experience but I've seen what hollow points DO NOT do on black bear.
Are you fishing or hiking and just want some protection; because if I were out hunting I would just bring enough rifle and bear spray.
Must be lots of expert crackshot marksmen here that could draw and hit a charging grizzly good enough to kill it. I'll stick with bear spray. Last thing I want strapped to my leg is a hand cannon. After the first 1000ft ascend at 8,000ft you'll be wishing you left the handgun at home.
I have bear sprayed grizzlies on 2 different occasions in bc one was young bear probably just away from mom who got too curious when I as fishing and a big boar who followed me and my cuz on our way back to the cabin. Both did not charge so it was pretty effective. But I will add that I always carry a gun and both times a person with me had my .45-70 with the instruction to shoot if the bear moves any closer after I sprayed. Take with you what you can and don't rely on spray alone if you have a gun. A big rifle or shotgun is best. the .44 is better(if you can shoot it) than the 10MM but still not ideal. Take what you feel confident in shooting. Again a big gun does you no good it you can't hit the broad side of a barn with it at the range not to mention with a Gigantic bear charging at you.
When I worked in the backcountry in Alaska, we always traveled in pairs. Both carried bear spray and one of the pair always had a Browning 45-70 or 12 gage 870 with slugs. I even carried bear spray and a rifle/shotgun to the privy.
We had to spray bears twice over the three years I was there. All were yearlings, inexperienced, and not showing enough fear. We were never actually charged. But, when they're following and you're backing up, it's a scary scene. I would never shoot a griz unless their was no other choice. They are one of the most incredible animals you'll ever see. As far as a gun, when the rubber hits the road at 25 yards, I can tell you that I'm a much better snap shooter with a long gun than a pistol.
Every time this comes up I can't help but think about my favorite quote from one of the old-timers:
"I ain't fixing to defend myself with a pistol because I don't wanna die with my ears ringing."
id feel comfortable with a .375...but if a handgun is a must, the .44 mag is what you need, not sure how many projectiles you plan on getting off on a charging grizz in the bush.
10mm 200fmc @ 1200 = 635 energy factory load
44mag 255ftx @ 1410 = 993 energy Hornady load
good luck with either one.
More rounds if the bruin gives you the chance to get them off, but the very bottom of the list of calibers that could effective as anti-bear protection. I carry a .44 mag that even isn't a sure bet. A .454 Cas. or .460 Ruger would be even better.
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I have bear sprayed grizzlies on 2 different occasions in bc one was young bear probably just away from mom who got too curious when I as fishing and a big boar who followed me and my cuz on our way back to the cabin. Both did not charge so it was pretty effective. But I will add that I always carry a gun and both times a person with me had my .45-70 with the instruction to shoot if the bear moves any closer after I sprayed. Take with you what you can and don't rely on spray alone if you have a gun. A big rifle or shotgun is best. the .44 is better(if you can shoot it) than the 10MM but still not ideal. Take what you feel confident in shooting. Again a big gun does you no good it you can't hit the broad side of a barn with it at the range not to mention with a Gigantic bear charging at you.
The .44 mag with heavy hard cast bullets is an absolute minimum for grizzlies. Leave the autos and hollow points at home. A large magazine won't do you any good if you only have time for one or two shots.
The answers from the eastern deer hunters are very entertaining.
Again, NO grizzly experience but I've seen what hollow points DO NOT do on black bear.
Must be lots of expert crackshot marksmen here that could draw and hit a charging grizzly good enough to kill it. I'll stick with bear spray. Last thing I want strapped to my leg is a hand cannon. After the first 1000ft ascend at 8,000ft you'll be wishing you left the handgun at home.
Every time this comes up I can't help but think about my favorite quote from one of the old-timers:
"I ain't fixing to defend myself with a pistol because I don't wanna die with my ears ringing."
I wouldn't use hollow points for bear you need a good solid or heavy soft point. HSM, Hornady, Buffalo Bore and Grizzly make good ammo.
A Glock/30-10MM/17+1,Its a fine choice for Back-up in Grizz-country, Hornady or Winchester Silver-Tips would my pick....Good luck with your Glock.
what about bear spray?
The smallest handgun I would feel comfortable carrying for bear defense is a .45 acp.
The smallest handgun I would feel comfortable carrying for bear defense is a .45 acp.
The smallest handgun I would feel comfortable carrying for bear defense is a .45 acp.
I would recommend hardcast bullets, like the ones from Buffalobore 220 gr. Hard Cast - FN (1200 fps/ME 703 ft. lbs.(from their web site) you need penetration, and these guys punch! Hollow points would deflect right off of a big boar grz. head!
I would be carrying my marlin .45-70 with hardcast 430grain as a min.
Don't forget to wear your bear bells. The easiest way to tell black bear from grizzly sign is grizzly scat has bear bells in it. Lots of shots is more comforting to me than higher power. A pistol is way more comforting than bear spray at close quarters.
When I worked in the backcountry in Alaska, we always traveled in pairs. Both carried bear spray and one of the pair always had a Browning 45-70 or 12 gage 870 with slugs. I even carried bear spray and a rifle/shotgun to the privy.
We had to spray bears twice over the three years I was there. All were yearlings, inexperienced, and not showing enough fear. We were never actually charged. But, when they're following and you're backing up, it's a scary scene. I would never shoot a griz unless their was no other choice. They are one of the most incredible animals you'll ever see. As far as a gun, when the rubber hits the road at 25 yards, I can tell you that I'm a much better snap shooter with a long gun than a pistol.
id feel comfortable with a .375...but if a handgun is a must, the .44 mag is what you need, not sure how many projectiles you plan on getting off on a charging grizz in the bush.
10mm 200fmc @ 1200 = 635 energy factory load
44mag 255ftx @ 1410 = 993 energy Hornady load
good luck with either one.
More rounds if the bruin gives you the chance to get them off, but the very bottom of the list of calibers that could effective as anti-bear protection. I carry a .44 mag that even isn't a sure bet. A .454 Cas. or .460 Ruger would be even better.
Stick carry the extra weight and if you are shooting more that 6 rounds then you have a problem besides the gun. Also use a good controlled expansion bullet or lfn, you want the bullet to penetrate and do massive damage all the way not go in 8 in and stop. When it comes to caliber if you can comfortably shot the .44 and are confident in the gun then take it but if you aren't take the 10mm. A smaller gun that you can hit a bear with is alway better than a big gun that you have to literally hit the bear with.
what about bear spray?
Leave the gun at home and carry bear spray.
Leave the gun at home and carry bear spray.
If it has to be a handgun, I would go with the S&W .44 Mag. because you would not be likely to get off more than one or two shots at a charging grizzly.
Can you find 300+ grain fodder for a 10? No grizzly or 10mm experience but I'd want all the bullet weight I could find.
I would leave the bear spray at home. I know I will get a lot of flak on this, but the problem with bear spray is the effective range, 30 40 feet, which is not enough if a big bear is charging you. they can reach speeds over 35mph, can weigh over 600 pounds, and DO NOT STOP ON A DIME! If you wait until they are 30 feet away you might be able to get off a spray shot, but that will only add peeper sauce to the grizzly afternoon snack!don't believe me? try a little role play with one of your friends charging you, and see how long it takes them to stop, now multiply the speed and weight to a bears!
WA M- i ask you to take note that I didn't answer this question....
Are you fishing or hiking and just want some protection; because if I were out hunting I would just bring enough rifle and bear spray.
A 10 gauge would be my first choice over 10mm, however it is an adequate caliber for bear, but make sure you have good hollow points.
What's with the -1?
I would prefer hollow points to solids because when a bear is charging you he is headlong, so if I have to shoot him I would want to do as much damage as possible.
Dallas, the 10mm has been likened to a .44magnum during ballistics test, however a handgun would not be my first choice for bear protection, especially grizzly.
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