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What do you think about a 10mm Glock for grizzly protection? Fairly light for carrying and more projectiles than my S&W 44 mag.

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from mspl8sdcntryboy wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

A 10 gauge would be my first choice over 10mm, however it is an adequate caliber for bear, but make sure you have good hollow points.

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from idduckhntr wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

I wouldn't use hollow points for bear you need a good solid or heavy soft point. HSM, Hornady, Buffalo Bore and Grizzly make good ammo.

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from mike0714 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Stick carry the extra weight and if you are shooting more that 6 rounds then you have a problem besides the gun. Also use a good controlled expansion bullet or lfn, you want the bullet to penetrate and do massive damage all the way not go in 8 in and stop. When it comes to caliber if you can comfortably shot the .44 and are confident in the gun then take it but if you aren't take the 10mm. A smaller gun that you can hit a bear with is alway better than a big gun that you have to literally hit the bear with.

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from Treestand wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

A Glock/30-10MM/17+1,Its a fine choice for Back-up in Grizz-country, Hornady or Winchester Silver-Tips would my pick....Good luck with your Glock.

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from 784512 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

what about bear spray?

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from 784512 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

what about bear spray?

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from jay wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Leave the gun at home and carry bear spray.

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from jay wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Leave the gun at home and carry bear spray.

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from 99explorer wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

If it has to be a handgun, I would go with the S&W .44 Mag. because you would not be likely to get off more than one or two shots at a charging grizzly.

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from 007 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Can you find 300+ grain fodder for a 10? No grizzly or 10mm experience but I'd want all the bullet weight I could find.

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from Dallas A. McWhorter wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

The smallest handgun I would feel comfortable carrying for bear defense is a .45 acp.

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from Greenhead wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

The .44 mag with heavy hard cast bullets is an absolute minimum for grizzlies. Leave the autos and hollow points at home. A large magazine won't do you any good if you only have time for one or two shots.

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from mspl8sdcntryboy wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

What's with the -1?
I would prefer hollow points to solids because when a bear is charging you he is headlong, so if I have to shoot him I would want to do as much damage as possible.
Dallas, the 10mm has been likened to a .44magnum during ballistics test, however a handgun would not be my first choice for bear protection, especially grizzly.

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from RJ Arena wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

I would recommend hardcast bullets, like the ones from Buffalobore 220 gr. Hard Cast - FN (1200 fps/ME 703 ft. lbs.(from their web site) you need penetration, and these guys punch! Hollow points would deflect right off of a big boar grz. head!
I would be carrying my marlin .45-70 with hardcast 430grain as a min.

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from RJ Arena wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

I would leave the bear spray at home. I know I will get a lot of flak on this, but the problem with bear spray is the effective range, 30 40 feet, which is not enough if a big bear is charging you. they can reach speeds over 35mph, can weigh over 600 pounds, and DO NOT STOP ON A DIME! If you wait until they are 30 feet away you might be able to get off a spray shot, but that will only add peeper sauce to the grizzly afternoon snack!don't believe me? try a little role play with one of your friends charging you, and see how long it takes them to stop, now multiply the speed and weight to a bears!

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

The answers from the eastern deer hunters are very entertaining.

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from Pray- hunt-work wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

WA M- i ask you to take note that I didn't answer this question....

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from Hobob wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Don't forget to wear your bear bells. The easiest way to tell black bear from grizzly sign is grizzly scat has bear bells in it. Lots of shots is more comforting to me than higher power. A pistol is way more comforting than bear spray at close quarters.

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from 007 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Again, NO grizzly experience but I've seen what hollow points DO NOT do on black bear.

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from Safado wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Are you fishing or hiking and just want some protection; because if I were out hunting I would just bring enough rifle and bear spray.

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from jay wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Must be lots of expert crackshot marksmen here that could draw and hit a charging grizzly good enough to kill it. I'll stick with bear spray. Last thing I want strapped to my leg is a hand cannon. After the first 1000ft ascend at 8,000ft you'll be wishing you left the handgun at home.

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from mike0714 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

I have bear sprayed grizzlies on 2 different occasions in bc one was young bear probably just away from mom who got too curious when I as fishing and a big boar who followed me and my cuz on our way back to the cabin. Both did not charge so it was pretty effective. But I will add that I always carry a gun and both times a person with me had my .45-70 with the instruction to shoot if the bear moves any closer after I sprayed. Take with you what you can and don't rely on spray alone if you have a gun. A big rifle or shotgun is best. the .44 is better(if you can shoot it) than the 10MM but still not ideal. Take what you feel confident in shooting. Again a big gun does you no good it you can't hit the broad side of a barn with it at the range not to mention with a Gigantic bear charging at you.

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from allegnmtn wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

When I worked in the backcountry in Alaska, we always traveled in pairs. Both carried bear spray and one of the pair always had a Browning 45-70 or 12 gage 870 with slugs. I even carried bear spray and a rifle/shotgun to the privy.

We had to spray bears twice over the three years I was there. All were yearlings, inexperienced, and not showing enough fear. We were never actually charged. But, when they're following and you're backing up, it's a scary scene. I would never shoot a griz unless their was no other choice. They are one of the most incredible animals you'll ever see. As far as a gun, when the rubber hits the road at 25 yards, I can tell you that I'm a much better snap shooter with a long gun than a pistol.

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from chuckles wrote 6 weeks 5 days ago

Every time this comes up I can't help but think about my favorite quote from one of the old-timers:
"I ain't fixing to defend myself with a pistol because I don't wanna die with my ears ringing."

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 6 weeks 5 days ago

id feel comfortable with a .375...but if a handgun is a must, the .44 mag is what you need, not sure how many projectiles you plan on getting off on a charging grizz in the bush.

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from jhjimbo wrote 6 weeks 5 days ago

10mm 200fmc @ 1200 = 635 energy factory load

44mag 255ftx @ 1410 = 993 energy Hornady load

good luck with either one.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 6 weeks 5 days ago

More rounds if the bruin gives you the chance to get them off, but the very bottom of the list of calibers that could effective as anti-bear protection. I carry a .44 mag that even isn't a sure bet. A .454 Cas. or .460 Ruger would be even better.

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from mike0714 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

I have bear sprayed grizzlies on 2 different occasions in bc one was young bear probably just away from mom who got too curious when I as fishing and a big boar who followed me and my cuz on our way back to the cabin. Both did not charge so it was pretty effective. But I will add that I always carry a gun and both times a person with me had my .45-70 with the instruction to shoot if the bear moves any closer after I sprayed. Take with you what you can and don't rely on spray alone if you have a gun. A big rifle or shotgun is best. the .44 is better(if you can shoot it) than the 10MM but still not ideal. Take what you feel confident in shooting. Again a big gun does you no good it you can't hit the broad side of a barn with it at the range not to mention with a Gigantic bear charging at you.

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from Greenhead wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

The .44 mag with heavy hard cast bullets is an absolute minimum for grizzlies. Leave the autos and hollow points at home. A large magazine won't do you any good if you only have time for one or two shots.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

The answers from the eastern deer hunters are very entertaining.

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from 007 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Again, NO grizzly experience but I've seen what hollow points DO NOT do on black bear.

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from jay wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Must be lots of expert crackshot marksmen here that could draw and hit a charging grizzly good enough to kill it. I'll stick with bear spray. Last thing I want strapped to my leg is a hand cannon. After the first 1000ft ascend at 8,000ft you'll be wishing you left the handgun at home.

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from chuckles wrote 6 weeks 5 days ago

Every time this comes up I can't help but think about my favorite quote from one of the old-timers:
"I ain't fixing to defend myself with a pistol because I don't wanna die with my ears ringing."

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from idduckhntr wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

I wouldn't use hollow points for bear you need a good solid or heavy soft point. HSM, Hornady, Buffalo Bore and Grizzly make good ammo.

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from Treestand wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

A Glock/30-10MM/17+1,Its a fine choice for Back-up in Grizz-country, Hornady or Winchester Silver-Tips would my pick....Good luck with your Glock.

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from 784512 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

what about bear spray?

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from Dallas A. McWhorter wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

The smallest handgun I would feel comfortable carrying for bear defense is a .45 acp.

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from Dallas A. McWhorter wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

The smallest handgun I would feel comfortable carrying for bear defense is a .45 acp.

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from Dallas A. McWhorter wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

The smallest handgun I would feel comfortable carrying for bear defense is a .45 acp.

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from RJ Arena wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

I would recommend hardcast bullets, like the ones from Buffalobore 220 gr. Hard Cast - FN (1200 fps/ME 703 ft. lbs.(from their web site) you need penetration, and these guys punch! Hollow points would deflect right off of a big boar grz. head!
I would be carrying my marlin .45-70 with hardcast 430grain as a min.

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from Hobob wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Don't forget to wear your bear bells. The easiest way to tell black bear from grizzly sign is grizzly scat has bear bells in it. Lots of shots is more comforting to me than higher power. A pistol is way more comforting than bear spray at close quarters.

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from allegnmtn wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

When I worked in the backcountry in Alaska, we always traveled in pairs. Both carried bear spray and one of the pair always had a Browning 45-70 or 12 gage 870 with slugs. I even carried bear spray and a rifle/shotgun to the privy.

We had to spray bears twice over the three years I was there. All were yearlings, inexperienced, and not showing enough fear. We were never actually charged. But, when they're following and you're backing up, it's a scary scene. I would never shoot a griz unless their was no other choice. They are one of the most incredible animals you'll ever see. As far as a gun, when the rubber hits the road at 25 yards, I can tell you that I'm a much better snap shooter with a long gun than a pistol.

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 6 weeks 5 days ago

id feel comfortable with a .375...but if a handgun is a must, the .44 mag is what you need, not sure how many projectiles you plan on getting off on a charging grizz in the bush.

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from jhjimbo wrote 6 weeks 5 days ago

10mm 200fmc @ 1200 = 635 energy factory load

44mag 255ftx @ 1410 = 993 energy Hornady load

good luck with either one.

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from Sourdough Dave wrote 6 weeks 5 days ago

More rounds if the bruin gives you the chance to get them off, but the very bottom of the list of calibers that could effective as anti-bear protection. I carry a .44 mag that even isn't a sure bet. A .454 Cas. or .460 Ruger would be even better.

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from mike0714 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Stick carry the extra weight and if you are shooting more that 6 rounds then you have a problem besides the gun. Also use a good controlled expansion bullet or lfn, you want the bullet to penetrate and do massive damage all the way not go in 8 in and stop. When it comes to caliber if you can comfortably shot the .44 and are confident in the gun then take it but if you aren't take the 10mm. A smaller gun that you can hit a bear with is alway better than a big gun that you have to literally hit the bear with.

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from 784512 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

what about bear spray?

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from jay wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Leave the gun at home and carry bear spray.

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from jay wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Leave the gun at home and carry bear spray.

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from 99explorer wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

If it has to be a handgun, I would go with the S&W .44 Mag. because you would not be likely to get off more than one or two shots at a charging grizzly.

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from 007 wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Can you find 300+ grain fodder for a 10? No grizzly or 10mm experience but I'd want all the bullet weight I could find.

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from RJ Arena wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

I would leave the bear spray at home. I know I will get a lot of flak on this, but the problem with bear spray is the effective range, 30 40 feet, which is not enough if a big bear is charging you. they can reach speeds over 35mph, can weigh over 600 pounds, and DO NOT STOP ON A DIME! If you wait until they are 30 feet away you might be able to get off a spray shot, but that will only add peeper sauce to the grizzly afternoon snack!don't believe me? try a little role play with one of your friends charging you, and see how long it takes them to stop, now multiply the speed and weight to a bears!

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from Pray- hunt-work wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

WA M- i ask you to take note that I didn't answer this question....

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from Safado wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

Are you fishing or hiking and just want some protection; because if I were out hunting I would just bring enough rifle and bear spray.

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from mspl8sdcntryboy wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

A 10 gauge would be my first choice over 10mm, however it is an adequate caliber for bear, but make sure you have good hollow points.

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from mspl8sdcntryboy wrote 6 weeks 6 days ago

What's with the -1?
I would prefer hollow points to solids because when a bear is charging you he is headlong, so if I have to shoot him I would want to do as much damage as possible.
Dallas, the 10mm has been likened to a .44magnum during ballistics test, however a handgun would not be my first choice for bear protection, especially grizzly.

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