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How to Diagnose What's Wrong with Your Innacurate Rifle

Rifles do not suffer from demonic possession; it only seems that way sometimes. They will not swivel their heads 360 degrees and hurl in your general direction, but they will cause you to miss, which is probably worse. Life is hard enough without inaccurate rifles. Here's how to cure them—and avoid them.

WHAT IS "INACCURATE"? Despite all the stuff I write about sub-minute-of-angle accuracy, a big-game rifle is perfectly fine if it puts three shots in an inch and a half at 100 yards. If it's a brush gun that will never be used past 100 yards, 2 inches is okay. So your first step is to see if your gun will meet this standard.

When I get a rifle, I put 100 rounds through it just to say hello. During this trial period, I look for the bullet weight and brand of ammo (or the handload) that will shoot most accurately. When I find one that looks promising, I shoot a minimum of five groups to confirm its accuracy. If you go through this process, you'll know whether your rifle is a dog.

CHECK THE SCOPE In many cases, "inaccurate" rifles are not inaccurate at all but are wearing ruptured scopes. Two weeks ago, in Africa, a friend's .458 Lott refused to hold its zero, and I would bet that the gun was fine, but the horrendously complex scope it was wearing was unable to withstand the recoil of that elephant-busting round. Check your scope, check your rings and bases, then blame the rifle.

To see if the scope adjustments work, try "squaring the circle." Fire a shot; then, aiming at the same point each time, move the reticle 12 clicks (3 inches) up; then 12 clicks right; then 12 down; then 12 left. You should end up with four shots forming a square. If you don't, send the scope back for repair.

CLEAN THE BARREL Rifle barrels must have absolutely uniform dimensions (to the ten-thousandth of an inch) for the length of their bores in order to be accurate. So when you don't clean a barrel and the copper fouling starts building up, accuracy goes out the window. Get out the solvent and go to work (see Sportsman's Notebook, July). You don't have to enjoy the job—heaven knows I don't—but you do have to do it.

SHOOT DIFFERENT AMMO If the gun still won't group the way you'd like, try all the different ammo you can get your hands on. Time after time I've seen rifles that grouped abominably suddenly turn into marvels of precision when they were fed ammunition that they liked. Why do some rifles "prefer" one brand and weight of bullet over another? That, friends, is a subject for a different column, but it is a proven fact.

BACK IT GOES If you experiment as far as your budget and your patience will let you and the rifle still won't group, your next step is to send it back to the manufacturer. This may or may not give you satisfactory results. The gun factories whose repair shops I've visited usually have pretty liberal standards about what level of accuracy is acceptable and what isn't, and if you tell them that your rifle won't group in an inch and a half, you may get your rifle right back along with a letter stating that their standard is 3 inches.

Gun manufacturers also tend to look beady-eyed at claims of poor accuracy because they have no idea how well you shoot. To get them to take you seriously, send in all the data you have on the rifle, including targets, type of ammo used, the distance at which you shot, etc.

And if they send it back and it still won't shoot the way you want? You have two choices: (a) Get a gunsmith to install a better barrel, which will cost between $300 and $500. Factory barrels, which usually perform quite well, are nonetheless turned out by the carload, and there are bound to be some dogs in that car. A semicustom product such as a Douglas or a Shaw, or a true custom barrel such as a Shilen or a Schneider, can work wonders. Or (b) Sell the rifle. Be honest and tell your potential buyer why you're letting it go. The wonderful world of guns is a small one, and if you put something over on somebody it can return to bite you.

COPPER KILLERS

Three products that I've found to be highly effective at removing bullet-jacket fouling: First is Hoppe's Bench Rest 9 Copper Solvent. It's not all that fast, but it's thorough. Second is Barnes CR-10, which employs ammonia and is much faster. For copper fouling that absolutely will not budge, J-B Bore Bright is the barrel-cleaning equivalent of a nuclear bomb. Hoppe's is widely available at gun stores. Order Barnes CR-10 from 800-574-9200; www.barnesbullets.com; and J-B Bore Bright from Brownell's, 800-741-0015; www.brownells.com. —D.E.P.

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

On a friend's recommendation, a shooter had recently purchased a new Remington Model 700BDL in .30-'06. The gunshop had mounted and boresighted a 4X scope on the receiver, the shooter took it home and cleaned the rifle carefully, then he brought it to the firing line at the range to zero it in. Initial results were disappointing. His 5-shot group measured just over 9 inches at 100 yards, which is far from typical for a Rem700. I fired a 3-shot group with his rifle and it was grouping poorly for me, so I began a process of elimination, starting with the scope. All ring screws were tight, there was no indication the scope had slipped in the rings, the one-piece base was secure. I checked the rear guard screw and it was snug, then checked the front trigger guard screw and...very loose.
The shooter had removed the barreled action to clean it, then replaced it in the stock and tightened only the rear screw. After snugging down the front & rear screws, I fired another group which exhibited marked improvement. By the end of the session, the rifle seemed to settle in nicely and was delivering very respectable groups. I agree with Dave; there's a reason a rifle shoots poorly. Once the issue is resolved, you can enjoy the purchase you've made.

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from fisherus wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

I feel that there is also one more thing to check when you're trying to get tight groups. The trigger can cause you all sorts of problems if it has excessive creep or too heavy of a pull. I like to get my triggers checked for pounds and ounces of pull before I ever go sight a rifle in. If every screw is tight (I suggest using Loc-tite on every scope screw)check your trigger to see if it breaks crisp or you have to drag it back a little before it does. Also, have the pull weight checked. There are inexpensive devises you can purchase or your dealer should be able to check it for you. My gunsmith will remove the creep and set the weight of pull for $30-$40 depending on the difficulty of the job. This is really an inexpensive way to make a good shooter out of a gun if the scope and bedding are OK and nothing else works. A crisp trigger pull at lighter weights of 3.5lbs or less really helps on accuracy. I set some of my varmint triggers down to less than one pound and punch bullets through the same holes. Just one more thing to check that can turn what you may think to be a lousy gun into a real shooter.

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from jbtool wrote 3 years 47 weeks ago

Well I have an innacuract gun. I put a tapco stock on my mini 14 then I put a BSA tacital scope red dot with green and blue dots. I put my bore sighter in the barrel and moved the dot to the laser. when I was shooting I was not even on the paper at 50 yds. I am wondering if it could be the stock? at one time that mini 14 was good at 100yds with peep sights. Now It is about 12 inches high. I was so discusted that I packed up and went to the pistol range side where my confendance was regained. any help or comments would be great
Thanks Jim

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from jimmyp wrote 3 years 38 weeks ago

its a fact that a clean cold bore will many times shoot to a different point of aim or not group well compared to a cold fouled bore. Barrel cleaning is a subject that needs to be carefully approached. I clean my rifles when they start shooting poorly, not after each trip to the range. It could be 50 or more rounds before a rifle needs cleaning usually more. A good way to chase your tail is to shoot the rifle, try to find a load/bullet that it likes, take it home and clean it to bare steel and then go back to the range to find that the first 4-5 rounds from your best load "do not group well". Leave the gun fouled, take it back and it should shoot into the same group.
I never hunt with a rifle that has had the bore cleaned!

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from IanS wrote 3 years 34 weeks ago

Some very good points. Especially the one about ammo. I've tried a few different kinds in mine and have had some very different results. Mine is a Tikka T3 270 win. Federal Fusion and Remington Corelokt give me 1" groups at 100 yards. Win Super X they open up to 2+"

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from Buck wrote 3 years 22 weeks ago

Good stuff as usual! I was especially happy to see the comment about "What Is Inaccurate!" Many guns are extremely accurate today, but it is more a stamp of quality, and the pride of ownership than a necessity for most hunters. Buck @ score-your-hunting.com

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from DakotaMan wrote 3 years 10 weeks ago

I often see people at the range very disgusted with their rifle's accuracy. They have read of sub-MOA rifles and have those expectations but they are getting six inch groups. I usually check the screws (scope, mounts and action). I put their rifle in a lead sled; dial on the target and low an behold... a one inch group. It seems more often than not, the shooter was leaning on a wobbly table, weaving like a drunk sailer (no offense to our honorable men and women in blue, but you know how you weave) and jerkng the trigger hard enough to pull the rifle sideways. Once in a while, I find a rifle with a poor barrel or a severely warped stock but I would say, the majority of the time the shooter has a loose screw so I usually start there.

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from thewalsh wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

Once we eliminate the obvious, shooter's errors,loose screws &c you may find it helpful to try inserting a shim close to end of the forend. I have often reduced group size by half using this simple expedient. Shim material should be non-absorptive, and to start, not more than about 1/100th inch thick, maybe less.

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from fieldman23 wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

On a new rifle it is always a good idea to check that all the screws are tight. Not tighten them but check that they are tight. One day at the range a fellow shoot was checking his new 45-70 single shot with a tang sight. At 50 yards it was printing 12-14 inch groups. There were several suggestion but none made a difference. He asked me to take a look, but I had little hope, as others had looked it over with the obvious checked. I asked if I could touch the rear sight and found that it would move 1/16 – 1/8 inch left to right. We tightened up the screws on the sight. With his last three shells it printed a clover. Boy was he happy.

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from Edward J. Palumbo wrote 4 years 21 weeks ago

On a friend's recommendation, a shooter had recently purchased a new Remington Model 700BDL in .30-'06. The gunshop had mounted and boresighted a 4X scope on the receiver, the shooter took it home and cleaned the rifle carefully, then he brought it to the firing line at the range to zero it in. Initial results were disappointing. His 5-shot group measured just over 9 inches at 100 yards, which is far from typical for a Rem700. I fired a 3-shot group with his rifle and it was grouping poorly for me, so I began a process of elimination, starting with the scope. All ring screws were tight, there was no indication the scope had slipped in the rings, the one-piece base was secure. I checked the rear guard screw and it was snug, then checked the front trigger guard screw and...very loose.
The shooter had removed the barreled action to clean it, then replaced it in the stock and tightened only the rear screw. After snugging down the front & rear screws, I fired another group which exhibited marked improvement. By the end of the session, the rifle seemed to settle in nicely and was delivering very respectable groups. I agree with Dave; there's a reason a rifle shoots poorly. Once the issue is resolved, you can enjoy the purchase you've made.

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from fisherus wrote 4 years 20 weeks ago

I feel that there is also one more thing to check when you're trying to get tight groups. The trigger can cause you all sorts of problems if it has excessive creep or too heavy of a pull. I like to get my triggers checked for pounds and ounces of pull before I ever go sight a rifle in. If every screw is tight (I suggest using Loc-tite on every scope screw)check your trigger to see if it breaks crisp or you have to drag it back a little before it does. Also, have the pull weight checked. There are inexpensive devises you can purchase or your dealer should be able to check it for you. My gunsmith will remove the creep and set the weight of pull for $30-$40 depending on the difficulty of the job. This is really an inexpensive way to make a good shooter out of a gun if the scope and bedding are OK and nothing else works. A crisp trigger pull at lighter weights of 3.5lbs or less really helps on accuracy. I set some of my varmint triggers down to less than one pound and punch bullets through the same holes. Just one more thing to check that can turn what you may think to be a lousy gun into a real shooter.

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from jimmyp wrote 3 years 38 weeks ago

its a fact that a clean cold bore will many times shoot to a different point of aim or not group well compared to a cold fouled bore. Barrel cleaning is a subject that needs to be carefully approached. I clean my rifles when they start shooting poorly, not after each trip to the range. It could be 50 or more rounds before a rifle needs cleaning usually more. A good way to chase your tail is to shoot the rifle, try to find a load/bullet that it likes, take it home and clean it to bare steel and then go back to the range to find that the first 4-5 rounds from your best load "do not group well". Leave the gun fouled, take it back and it should shoot into the same group.
I never hunt with a rifle that has had the bore cleaned!

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from jbtool wrote 3 years 47 weeks ago

Well I have an innacuract gun. I put a tapco stock on my mini 14 then I put a BSA tacital scope red dot with green and blue dots. I put my bore sighter in the barrel and moved the dot to the laser. when I was shooting I was not even on the paper at 50 yds. I am wondering if it could be the stock? at one time that mini 14 was good at 100yds with peep sights. Now It is about 12 inches high. I was so discusted that I packed up and went to the pistol range side where my confendance was regained. any help or comments would be great
Thanks Jim

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from IanS wrote 3 years 34 weeks ago

Some very good points. Especially the one about ammo. I've tried a few different kinds in mine and have had some very different results. Mine is a Tikka T3 270 win. Federal Fusion and Remington Corelokt give me 1" groups at 100 yards. Win Super X they open up to 2+"

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from Buck wrote 3 years 22 weeks ago

Good stuff as usual! I was especially happy to see the comment about "What Is Inaccurate!" Many guns are extremely accurate today, but it is more a stamp of quality, and the pride of ownership than a necessity for most hunters. Buck @ score-your-hunting.com

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from DakotaMan wrote 3 years 10 weeks ago

I often see people at the range very disgusted with their rifle's accuracy. They have read of sub-MOA rifles and have those expectations but they are getting six inch groups. I usually check the screws (scope, mounts and action). I put their rifle in a lead sled; dial on the target and low an behold... a one inch group. It seems more often than not, the shooter was leaning on a wobbly table, weaving like a drunk sailer (no offense to our honorable men and women in blue, but you know how you weave) and jerkng the trigger hard enough to pull the rifle sideways. Once in a while, I find a rifle with a poor barrel or a severely warped stock but I would say, the majority of the time the shooter has a loose screw so I usually start there.

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from thewalsh wrote 3 years 6 weeks ago

Once we eliminate the obvious, shooter's errors,loose screws &c you may find it helpful to try inserting a shim close to end of the forend. I have often reduced group size by half using this simple expedient. Shim material should be non-absorptive, and to start, not more than about 1/100th inch thick, maybe less.

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from fieldman23 wrote 2 years 49 weeks ago

On a new rifle it is always a good idea to check that all the screws are tight. Not tighten them but check that they are tight. One day at the range a fellow shoot was checking his new 45-70 single shot with a tang sight. At 50 yards it was printing 12-14 inch groups. There were several suggestion but none made a difference. He asked me to take a look, but I had little hope, as others had looked it over with the obvious checked. I asked if I could touch the rear sight and found that it would move 1/16 – 1/8 inch left to right. We tightened up the screws on the sight. With his last three shells it printed a clover. Boy was he happy.

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