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Close Calls: Two Hunters Dodge a Charging Moose

During a 2008 fall hunt, Hal Lyon and his son Greg were charged by a 1,200-pound moose in Newfoundland.
Photo by Patrick Leger

"Greg and I took a guided hunting trip to Newfoundland to celebrate his safe return from his third tour in Iraq and Afghanistan. We'd been hunting all day and probably covered 10 miles on foot when Greg killed his caribou. After we covered the caribou with some branches to hide it from eagles, we began the long trek to the truck.

"Halfway back I spotted a nice bull moose about 200 yards away on the other side of a lake. I took a shot, and he went down-and stayed down. But when we were within 100 yards, he got up and started trotting away. I fired again, and he collapsed. Before the guide and I ventured any closer, I loaded my last round. When we were 10 yards from the bull, he suddenly stood up and charged. 'Shoot him now!' the guide yelled.

He was coming right at me-red eyes and all-like a four-hoofed locomotive. I dropped to one knee and fired my last shot in his neck. Just as he was about to trample me, I dove to my left. The earth shook as he thundered by. Greg, who was behind me, barely missed getting gored by jumping into a brushpile at the last second. The moose kept going, running into the lake, where he eventually died.

"When we were sure the moose was dead, Greg took off his hunting gear and swam to the bull, which was buoyed by the water. It took him 25 minutes to pull the moose 300 yards back to shore. Greg was shivering when he got out of the water, but after he got into some dry clothes he was fine.

"The next morning I told Greg that I'd mount the moose antlers. Greg had a better idea: 'Dad, we're going to mount this entire head! This is the moose we'll talk about for generations-the one that charged and almost killed us.'" —As told to Colin Kearns

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from jay wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Ya right, sure he did.

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from KingFisher907 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Sounds about right, old moose hunters will tell you that moose invariably head for water when shot...thats been my experience as well though Ive been luck and never had to swim for one...

I liked the description of the charging moose too, he pretty much captured the moment...when youre after a rutting bull moose, youre hunting an animal that would love to either, A.stomp your guts out or, B.make you its new girlfriend...either way its a bad deal...there's nothing like being in thick stuff with those rut-nutty bulls, not recommended for bad hearts or weak stomachs...

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from j-johnson17 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Moose are mean critters - I'm glad everyone was alright. Definitely something to talk about for years to come...

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

What caliber were you using? This animal seemed to take a lot of punishment before finally dying?!

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from Del in KS wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Sorry if I sound like a skeptic but one guy swimming 300 yd with a 1200 lb moose in water that must have been ice cold is a bit much. The rest sounds very likely. Congratulations and thank you for your service. And like Ralph said what kind of pip sqweak was he shooting? I shot an Alaskan bull in the neck an got a 1 shot bang flop with a 350 rem. mag.

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from buck hunter 17 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

that would scare the living crap out of me. i am happy that you got it and you guys didn't get hurt.

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from alozzi wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

wow sounds like a really close call wouldnt want to be in that situation

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from Christian Emter wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

I love these survival stories they always add to the magazine. all I have to say about those guys are....... THEY ARE DAMB LUCKY MATE.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

How does that Johnny Cash song go?

I here that train a coming; it’s coming thru the brush!

Well it ought to be a song for this!!

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from senkoman12 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

sure swim 300 yards and pull in a half ton moose yeah right waht then run into bigffot on the way back

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from Reli346 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

It ain't dead til you put it on your plate and stab it with a fork!

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from coonhunter98 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

I wonder how big the caribou was.

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from Happy Hunter wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

I've been hunting deer for 45 years and some have gone down w/one shot, others multiple. The ones that ran, if possible went to water. I shot a 680 pound (dressed weight) bull moose in Maine in 2005 and he went 50 yards after one 40-yard shot through the breadbasket with a 220 Grain '06 bullet in him. If you shoot one in the neck and are lucky enough to hit the spine, they'll "drop on the spot" and not move again. If you're not so lucky, anything is possible, including a charge. Overall, I like the story (maybe the swim was 300 feet, not yards?)

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from RDP4FandS wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

A Newfoundland Tall-Story?

Upon closer examination of the story, there seem to be quite a few contradictions that bring into serious question the veracity of the story! Et al:

He saw the buck 200 yards away on the other side of a lake.......But when he was within 100 yards, it got up and started trotting away....... He fired again......
So, it sounds like he fired again when he was in the middle of the lake!

It took him 25 minutes to pull the moose 300 yards back to shore.
Hmmmmm, 300 yards- Sounds here like the lake suddenly got about 100 yards wider! However---------

Greg took off his hunting gear and swam to the bull...... It took him 25 minutes to pull the moose 300 yards back to shore.
Greg swam out to the bull. Since it took 25 minutes to swim back with the bull in tow, it must have taken Greg at least 25 minutes to get to it plus (considering drag) at least 25 minutes to tow it back, for a total of 50 minutes. At a (conservative) average speed of 5 MPH, the total distance Greg swam had to be close to 3/4 mi. That equals about 1700 yards! O.K., even if you cut the distance Greg swam in half, that would STILL be about 850 yards!!!

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

...I still would like to know what caliber this guy was using on Moose!!?

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

OK..I'll guess it was a 30/06...for the sake of argument!

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from Big O wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Good story, and it's like I like to say to the Antis' "I just like enjoying my time in the outdoors, and only carry a high powered rifle for protection from the animals" LOL.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

I have hunting the same Ranch in MT for the last 5 years. Two yrs ago I noticed a lot less game around. So I returned this past fall and was even less game than in 2007. Problem being or part of the problem is the Wolves and Cougars. My wife was glassing for me last year and she heard something up close to her, looked below her Bincs and there was a huge Cougar not 20 yds away in a sneek stalk after 2 small does. I was to far away to see or I would have ended his stalk. Legal or not, us NR hunters who pay huge sums of $$$ to hunt the Rockies for Elk, Mule Deer, W-tails etc. need to take care of this problem if the states themselves are not. I will shoot the next wolf or Cougar i see out there in the West, legal or Not.As for Griz's will be his decision if I shoot or not. But we do need to tell the Game Depts in the Western Rockies about the problems with Cougars and Wolves. I have, now what good will do remains to be seen. I understad it takes them years to decide what to do about problem game.In the intrium, with the economy in the pits and my hunt fund zilt, will just hunt with my Son here at home. We have lots of deer and plant about 10-15 acres of food plots per year. I do plan to make another hunt to the MT mtns in a couple of years, as I want to see my Son kill a Elk before I leave this grand old world. @73+, few remaining years left and sure plan to use evry minute of it the way I enjoye. Shoot-um-straight and often. Good hunting guys.

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Yeah, Same thing happened to me once, yeah,...Once.

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from austin micheau wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

nature is sooo unpredictable huh

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from greywolf1419 wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

Great campfire story true or not. i enjoyed the reading.

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from single shot wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

My friend shot a cow (moose) on a logging road. A hunter behind him walked up to him, and my buddy asked for a cigarette, the other hunter turned and started to walk back down the road. A big bull jumped out of the bush,saw his cow snorted and charged my buddy 20 yards away, he was so shocked and scared, he turned and ran into the bush to get away, dropping his 30-06. He gives thanks that the other hunter had a bull tag, and wasn't far down the road. He shot the Bull.
Great Story, I like it! (having scuba intructor training, I would guess even pulling a moose 30 yards (100'), in cold water, would be a mean feat
I have heard a similar story in the union hall bar in Wawa,-- 4 old guys (white hairs, which I am now) at the table beside my buddy and I (when we we young)were having a bit of fun with us (we were wearing our hunter reds,which most everyone in Wawa does in hunting season.
We overheard one of the Gents tell his story about a bull running up and down a hill 5 times, each time he put a 30-06 into him before jumping behind a tree.
When I got up to go to the washroon, as I walked by their table,I asked him what the first 4 shots were for -to shoot the hooves off of him so he couldn't run away. Well, his buddies still couldn't talk for laughing, when I came back. He asked me if I ever shot a moose, and I said yes, it took a single shot. We bumped into them a few times in the same bar. ( for a beer or 2 before heading into the bush) and he would call me "Single Shot" and it stuck.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

I love those old campfire and bar-room stories. True or not, makes for good listing. I recall my first Fox hunt with a lot of older gents setting around a campfire with a l/2 gallon of shine at hand. Now and then one would say listen, thats old Blue etc. in fron of the pack. I never like to hunt anything I could not see, but those old guys (my age now) really had a great time in thoe days long ago forgotten.Sa todays hunters have the time to spare to go to a hunt camp and enjoy the guys. To me, thats l/2 the hunt. Just wish had some guys to go with now. Was in a Bar in North Montana a few yrs back,and wasa few older guys there telling tall tales. Being new to the area, I just listened and had a great night with those guys. Doubt if they arose very early the next day. Being disabled and almos deaf, I play with this Puter and read a lot.Can;t understand TV, Have really read some great hunt stories by the past experts. Love the oldies better than this electronic age of being spoiled to the comfots of a Holiday Inn. Shoot-um-straight and often.

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from shane wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

I don't know how much of this is true, but you can always tell the people that haven't done much of interest in the wild. They're the ones that deny any sort of wild story. Just because you're boring doesn't mean everyone else is.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

To Shane: Anything I print on this Blog is from experience and the stories I mention are facts, not fiction. Todays outdorsmen really miss a golden opportunity by not going on a hunt and sitting around the campfire at night listing to the stories of others. To prove they are true makes little difference to me, the story line is interesting regardless. I do miss that faze of my now hunting, as being disabled,I am unable to hunt and camp out in the wilds as I did many years ago. But the memories are there and I miss many of the old timers of yesterday. If you never been on a hunt and camped out,by all means do so at least once while you able to do so. My memories and photos of yester year are priceless and to this day, enjoy looking at those photos and re-living the past. Just pray I can continue a few more years.But,at 73 + few remain.Shoot-um-straight and often. Doing is actual believing. Killing game is only l/2 of the experience. I do enjoy taking game that I think is a trophy in my book, but not heart-broken if I eat that tag.

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from shane wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

OK...I'm in agreement with you. I'm just dissing the people that are always trying to deny these kinda stories just because they can't see themselves doing it.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

Shane: If I had my adult life to re-lieve, I would own property in the Rockies and operate a hunting, guide service. But that's 20-20 now. There is no place on earth more plesant than being in Deer/Elk Camp with a good bunch of guys and telling storis of their own or one's they heard. Some of those old-times ( like me) can make a hunt more enjoyable, even if you eat your tag. My guide in Montana is working a hunt for me again where we camp out at 8-9K feet for a few days. My being disabled/handicapped not sure it will work for me, but I got to give it a try again. Back packing by horse is out of the question, as I;ve had both hips replaced( plus I have a Ileostomy bag) and my Dr. will not permit me to ride a horse. But, we can drive to the area he plans to camp and haul all our gear. I;m able to walk a few paces and sit and wait for game to come my way (hopefully). His grandpa was planning to do this 4yrs ago,but he had a heart attack and left us. So hopefully my guide and my Son and a good friend in Missoula,Mt,Plan on trying this camp out hunt in 2010. If i am unable to stay out, will go to a Motel about 10 miles away and drive back and forth. I want to be around when my Son gets his Elk and i want that Cougar my wife saw last year plus a nice Mulie. Good Hunting. Shoot-um-straight and often. One last bit of info. A rifle bullet only reaches a height of 2 l/2" above the line of sight, or heigth of the axis. So a Zero of 200 yds + l" is a safe zero for Western hunting and here at home. I just hold a tad lower here than out west. But with the new Ammo available, they fly flatter and straightr with the Polymer tips than the soft points in my guns.Well maintained,clean firearms is a must for good accuracy, plus much pratice. Have you ever used a Buff lead bullet in a 375? if so, what results did you get on Elk size game. I love the Scirocco's in my 06 in l80 grs, will shoot thru a Deer or Elk broadside and leave a good blood trail if needed. But I prefer a one shot kill as unable to track, I do shoot a lot of game directly looking at me in the neck/chest area. Last fall I killed a 9 pt W-tail at 170 yds with B/p I aimed at the white patch on his neck, he hit the grund instantly. I was using 120 gr.pellets and POwerbelt 225 gr. sabots. Never found the bullet when dressed out. So assumed when completely thru. Ok have fun shooting.

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from buckshot89 wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

i'm glad there arn't any moose in ohio...

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from buckshot89 wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

i had a squirelle come back to life once. not as good of a story as this though or quite as terrifying.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Well as Robert Ruark was fond of Saying and one of his BOOKS was titled " Use Enough Gun!". The best advice I ever heard!

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

I also agree with Robert; He wrote some great books. I'm, a small guy ,l28 lbs soaking wet and large caliber, hard kicking guns i cannot use. I use Rem. 700's in 06 with lead added to the Walnut stock, making total wt near 9 l/2 lbs, 4 rounds and dcoped . With the Limbsave pad, i can handle that caliber using l80 gr Scirocco bullets. I also use a rem 700 in 25-06 for w-tail and just bought a Marlin XL7 in 270, syn stock to use at home on my 4 wheeler. i can handle the wt on it at 8 l/2 lbs. I added lead to the syn stock.Back to rounds in the magazine. I never use 5 rounds, as i want to feed the chamber from the magazine. A old habit from my 742 Rem Auto days. If you don;t place the shells in proper you got a jam and by feeding the chambr from the magazine, if a problem you gonna know prior to hunting in AM before light.If i can;t kill my Animal with 4 rounds, i need to pratice or stay home. On my top feeding hunting fiearms i only remove the one in the chamber at days in and then i re-insert that round in the gun for tomorrow unless i have to clean the gun at night. I always place a piece of Elec. tape over the Muzzle of all my guns, to keep the bbl clean an if gets wet during teh day, i clean the acion with gun scrubber to get the water out and let dry or use a hair dryer. Why spend thousands on a hunt and have a 2.00 bullet foul up your shot. I also buy the best ammo available that my guns shoot well. Not the Wally-World specials.I wll repeat a true story I told long ago. Ws at Elk amp and tis due cam in with a 3-5oo gun gase. Outfitter ask what gun he had. He informed him he had a Weatherby 300 with a Leupold scope. Outfiter ask him how it shot, gy saidI never shot the gun, the slesman said was bore sighted at 100 yds.????? Outitter walked into his tent, came back with a well used 06 and told him to use that gun on his hunt.Needless to say, he did kill a Cow Elk. Statedhis new gun was going back to sales office. Another Camp a older gentleman can in with a old 06 with grip tapped several rounds with Elec. tape.But, the crack ran all way to butt end. Next Am, old man was gone erly, about 45 min later, BAM, shotly the old man came in all bloody on his hands and ask to borrow a pack mule to get his 6 x 6 out. So 2 differernt examples with totally different guns and hunters. When i buy a new gun ( and i only use new guns i bought for my personal huntng), i scope with Nikons and Leupold steel Dual Dove tails mounts, pratice till I'm l" high at 200 yds and run a couple boxes of shells thru prior to my rocky Mtn trips This I have repeated many times, but does not hurt o remind new guys of my success. in Past l5 ys, only hve had to shoot a animal twice, not sure the 2nd was needed then, but unable to track, so wanted to make sure.And, I;m one of the few hunters who likes neck shots. i will take a frontal shot any time it presens itself. ehind the front shoulder i ok and I do take tat shot or a little moer on the front leg and break him down prior to the bullet getting to the vitals. The Sciroccos laas year i killed a huge w-tail at 270 yds, shot entered the right fore leg midway, broke it, went completely thru broke his left and his vitals wasa glob,der jumped a 4ft fence and ran 60 yds before piling up. How he jumped teh fence i will never knw s both front legs were dangling when we got to him and blood coming out both holes, nose, mouth.???? That will power in deer to live is unbelievable.Ok, enough of my mouthing. Shoot-um-stright and very often. By all means go to a Hunting Camp if you never been. No education available that you will get there.

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from moosemania wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

THAT SUCKS

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Who sucks Mooseman??????? Look in the mirrow, maybe he's there????? My puter has a Delete button on it, does yours?

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

OK,SO, we still DON'T KNOW WHAT CARTRIDGE THE GUY IN THIS MOOSE STORY WAS USING??

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Ralph the Rifleman:
I enjoy the aticles posted on this Blog. Like you, I do wish the guys would list the Caliber gun used and type of Ammo. A lot is to be learned from others, or at least I have. All mfgers of firearms an Ammo will lead you to believe their's is the only product worth buying. Not so. Trial and error by actual plain old guys like us are the real TESTERS. I try to list what Caliber and Ammo I use in hunting, but by now I suppose most know that the 06 is my caliber I trust and use on larger game and the 25-06 on deer size and under game. Many of us older guys can;t tolerate the kick of the larger calibers . The 06 using Scirocco's in l80 gr bullet will handle anything I plan to hunt in NA. Just hope and Pray I can return to the Rockis with my Son for a Elk/Mulie hunt to the Rockies while I'm around to enjoy. Just wish I had been beside my wife last year in Montana when she saw the Cougar at 20 yds creeping behind 2 small Does. I doubt he would ahve complete his stalk. However,as said lots lately, we/they need to allow some Wolves and Cougars be taken out of the herds. I do think it's time to allow some Wolves tags to be issued in the areas where it's a know fact they are thinning the game in many areas. The area I hunt in MT has many Wolves, and the game over the past 5 years I've been hunting there the # of game has declined by a large %. The Land Owner and my Guide have instructed me to kill any Cougar or Wolf I may see. But, when the game becomes scarce, the creatures move on to areas with more game. All hunters need to read the latest issue of Petersens HUNTING. Did not plan on writing a essay, but kinda got caried away. Shoot-um-straigh and often. Good hunting.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

GS-
I hope you can make the hunt, as well!
As for this Moose "story" that's all it is a STORY and piles of BS!

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Ralph the Rifleman:
I just received a e-mail from Montana.The Wolf yes and Cougar??? has been de-listed as a endageroed animal. Tags will be sold (100) for Montana for Wolves, Cougas????. They estimae that Montana has l300 Wolves, Wisc, MN , Kanas has 4.000. So appears I'm not the only one griping about them out west. I for got Idaho also will resume hunting wolves his fall # not available. Now, will begin saving my $$$ for 2010, so I can go back to MT and maybe get a shot. Did you read where Caig Boddington;s daughter, Britany shot a tracker in Africa who was attacked by an Leopord. She thought( so story goes) that she was shooting at the Leopard. Man was badly mauled by the Leopard, and she shot him in his hips. He's yet alive and Brittany has begun to established a fund from us hunters to pay his Medical expenses????????She shot him, not we/us, where is her liability ins.???? Appears Caig failed to inform her to make sure of her target???? lessons need to be taught, right? I think my Home-owners ins. coves such, I will suely check in AM. Also, it has allways be instilled in most of us hunters mind, to always make sure of your target and what is behind it, etc. I just wanted you an the othee readers that I had not been blowing smoke about the Wolves and Cougars out West. I don;t know how to forward the news link, as it was attached to some other news Items from DC. If figure it out will forward. Shoot-um-straight and often. Hey, if you were bying a Derringer , what would you buy???& Caliber, plus on the cheaper side. Hey, got a E-mail from Rem. the Dble s x s 06 from EAA they acquired, is yet available, I ordered one.They yet are imported from Italy. When arrives may be some time. Hope so by Sept.. 2010 Be good, graet hunting. Shoot-um-sraight and ofen. Hope Moose Man likes this, he did not like my other items, his loss, not mine.

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from Love2Hunt wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Sounds like quite an experience.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

GS-
I haven't heard about the Boddington mishap, but I'll do some web searching for it.As for issue of permits, GREAT! I hope you get out and shoot some fur and bring us some photos to marvel at!
I think I would get the .410/.45 Derringer. I think the pistol/shotgun combo is a flexible, and potent, duo.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

A hunt to the Rockies is an experience that words cannot describe. My first trip out, 20 odd yrs ago, as we left Denver for Craig, C0 in our rental 4 x 4 (we carried a guy along who had been many times) he was driving and I continued to make him stop for pictures. He stated, that we ahd 300 miles to go and the scenery in Caig was wonderful. How true. Since then, I've hunted other parts of C0, WY, MT, Idaho, Nebraska and evry trip has it's moments. But my hunt in Wy with a group of disabled guys in wheel-chairs for Lopes has to take the top prize for my most enjoyale hunt. Can always see someone in worse shape than ourselves. All l3 of us in that hunt filld our Lope tags. I', looking forward to another Wyhunt for Lopes and Elk. Just as soon as the DOW increases by Hunt fund, I will apply for tags. I wish all on this Blg gets to or has gotten the opportunity to hunt the Rockies, it's s different world at l0K ft. Have decided any hunt at my age is a new experience and look forward to the next season West and at home with my new Marlin.It;s such a thrill to leason to the stories around the camp at night that these guys disabled have gone thru in order to hunt. Have fun, hunt ofen and shoot straight.

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from Ne boy wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Jay your a jerk. just because you cant swim 300 yards doesnt mean this guy couldnt, and remember the moose was probably floating so he could have pulled it. hes not a pussey like you

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

WHOA Ne boy, pull up a chair and have a beer break there my friend. Name callin` should be left in grade school.

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from Ne boy wrote 4 years 4 weeks ago

Well Ralph some people like Jay just dont accept their weeknesses. And he needs to respect our veterans.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 4 weeks ago

Well, Ne boy-
I agree with you on that one, man. I try treating people the way I would like to be treated. Being a vet, I realized ya got to leave people to their opinions..make peace for yourself and believe all things happen for a purpose.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 4 weeks ago

Agree Ralph. We al have our opinions and we should respect each of his. As you stated, we got to make peach with ourselves prior to makin peace with others. i try to respect each of his opinion until I learn otherwise. Non of us perfect ( at least i'm not). I also believe most thing happen for a purpose,as i was seuupose to ahve died 20 ys ago, but ws left here for some reason. Before i leave this world,i surely want to learn why. I just try to make the best of my inabiltes and go on each day. I'v very fortunate to have hunted as much out west and here at home in past l8 yrs, and hopefully many left.Few un-rich guys gtth oppotunity to go west as many times as i have and been successful each time but once.Meet many people from Florida to Alaska, and we try to stay abreast of each other often. Learned lots and see lots. Been places i never dreamed I would ever see. I;ve seen all the states but 2, hopefully I can yet. So again, things happen for a reason, maybe thats why I was left in this world 20 yrs ago. Gonna get. Shoot-um-straight and often.

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from 007Dom wrote 4 years 1 week ago

Dang!! I saw that artical in F&S. I would be so scared. but whee did you shoot him the fist 2 times?

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from Thorbolt wrote 4 years 6 days ago

I spent a wonderful year at a USAF Radar site outside of Stephenville, NFLD (66-67), on the island, not old Labrador. I married a local and have been back a couple of times. My family all hunts; moose and bear. The terrain is thick brush on shale.
The author goes hunting with 3 shells - must think he's a heck of a shot. Then there's the expanding lake..... He must have been drinking Newfie Screech when he wrote this fable.
Check out Dhoon Lodge.com.

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from BigWoodsHunter57 wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

Amazing story, just goes to show you how unpredictable animals are..expecially when they are wounded

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from mattreney wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

not sure whether your going to see this or not but thanks for your service greg. and i wouldnt doubt for even a minute that that moose charged ive seen deer shot three times get up and run and moose shot 5 or 6 times and still stand without even as much as a stumble if that moose was shot its going to run. your in the way and he wont hesitate to run right through you

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from blake425 wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

great story. glad they're alright.

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from yohan wrote 3 years 45 weeks ago

Hmmmm lemme see ,.. 300 yds is poke ,.. however swimming means diffeent things to different peopl.
If it wasnt too deep ,..say chest high to to a tall Lac du flambo yuk yuk
Its possible to drag em through the water,.. Ive seen that ,. Depending on where hit they can pretty boyant right after they give up the ghost .

Plus any guy just off three tours is part mule anyway ( been there done that) .
More over ladys and Gentlmen ,.. camps Ive been in almost ALWAYS have 1/2 inch rope that amounts to about 100 yds or about 300 ft.?? Ive helped pull on a couple . and it aint all tghat bad.

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from Cranky Canauck wrote 3 years 45 weeks ago

Good story,Ive been moose hunting for 12 years I got for nice one and someone in our party alwayes gets one if i dont.They always fold one shot 30/06 180 gr,never seen them run or have to look for them.The only two we lost and never found were shot by my cousin roger with his 300 mag,he cant come anymore!!!!

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from dangerous game wrote 3 years 30 weeks ago

Use a 300 at least maybe even a 338 rum or 375. As for gunslinger i know your anger but don't blame it all on wolfs and cougars.

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from dangerous game wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

I hope gunslinger won't use his 25-06 on a cougar or wolf. Happy hunting:)

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from Luke.fortier@sb... wrote 3 years 21 weeks ago

nice, i can't believe you had to shoot it that many times, id pry crap my pants if a bull moose charged me.

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from jwallen wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

A few years ago my son and I were working on a new design of moose call with a sliding reed and log pleated hose that you could change the tone to from the higher cow calls all the way to the most guttural wuuuhgh that you could imagine. We took off out the back door and into the "Far North Bicentennial Park" behind the house. The moose had been in full rut for several days so I thought it would be a good time to test the call. We only went about 200 yards over the hill and into a thick stand of black spruce. I could see some cows moving in a swampy area 100 yards or so ahead of us. I let out one estrus cow call and then followed it with a loud, guttural and extremely low hormonal bull grunt. Instantly a big big bull with a 60" plus rack came flying out of the thick brush right in front of us. He was charging the noise, coming straight up the trail we were on. I grabbed the son by the shirt collar and pushed him ahead of me towards a clump of spruce trees that I knew the bulls rack would not fit through. We just got into the clump when he reached us. He stopped and raked his antlers on the trees just three feet from us. He turned and trotted back towards his cows going wugh, wugh, wugh. I guess he was satisfied that the rival had been dealt with. I looked at my son and was glad he was ok. Then I noticed that he was standing there in his stocking feet! We had taken off so quick that he had literally run right out of his shoes. I think that this is easily one of the top ten stupidest things I have ever done!

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from TheRockies wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Never been charge by a moose but have been charged by anger javelina...have to say its pretty scary

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from TheRockies wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Never been charge by a moose but have been charged by anger javelina...have to say its pretty scary

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from TheRockies wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Never been charge by a moose but have been charged by anger javelina...have to say its pretty scary

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from halclyon wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Guys, I did not know F&S had put our moose charge story on line or I would have responded earlier to your comments. I have asked F&S to publish the entire article which has photos of Gregg actually swimming out 300 yds -- Yes, 300 + or - a few yards. I even have a video of it which accounts for the 25 minutes in cold water (nearly 57 degrees).

For some of you "Doubting Thomases" the story is a true one. To answer some of your questions. My first 200 yds shot was across a smaller. The bull dropped and we thought he was down for keeps. We hustled around the pond and he got up about 100 yds away when I fired again, but a little too high into his hump. We then approached him and he charged us as in the story above. Frightening!! I shot him again in the brisket at point blank range and dove to my left to avoid being trampled and gored. (This shot whet just under his spine and I have a picture of it from his hind quarter showing it just missing his spine). He then ran to a second much larger lake where he swam out 300 yds and died. It took Gregg at least 25 mnutes in the cold water to reach the now floating moose and then he swim back towing him back to shore. He was close to hyperthermia
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aliber of the rifle was 30-06 with 180 gr bullet. His caribou is a beautiful animal with great antlers.

I know Gregg will appreciate your thanks for his USMC service to our Country. I enjoyed your comments which I have only read today over a year since you made most of them. Gregg who is overseas should see them soon as I have just alerted him to them via email. We're happy you enjoyed our TRUE story and hope that F&S will see fit to publish it in its entirety with photos.

Shoot straight!

Dr. Hal Lyon
www.deepwaterspress.com

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from celie wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

I'm Celie, I work at Tuckamore Lodge where Mr. Lyon and his son Greg had this adventure. For any of you who doubt his story, I can assure you it's accurate.

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from Coachcl wrote 2 years 41 weeks ago

Pretty impressive.

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from Bass2Buck wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

i dont know much about moose but i hear they get real mean

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from On a call wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

I am on the same page with you ! Just returned from an alaskan moose hunt. My buddy and I took a nice bull. He was about a 1500 pounder. My buddy had a 300 ultra mag shooting 180 grain bullet, I a 30-06 shooting 180 grainers also. I shot 5 times and he 2 into this bull at 160 yards ( lasered ). He stood there and took every shoot into his chest..one shoot missed. Stood there after we were done went to head towards the water and droped.

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from ironmountain wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

I have just returned from Missouri to live in Alaska. I brought back two rifles with me for hunting up here.
Winchester Model 70 Fetherweight 30-06bolt action.
And the "like new"
Remington 742 woodsmaster 30-06 semi- auto!
I have 220 grain "Remington" Exress Core-Lokt rounds.I know others are beter.but 200 gn are not available.
I would consider a 200 grain re-lode, but would not use 180gn on a moose, especially at closer ranges as are the case here.
A 180 grain is for a longer shot anyways. If you are 300+ yards away, then the moose probably won't charge that far, before you clober him again and again.
Now if he is in close;Then hit em with a real piece of lead! Not to mention when you start ringing the dinner bell, you will be glad you have the 220 grains to shew away the GRIZZ.
Stayin worm in the Valley!

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from brucepatryn wrote 2 years 29 weeks ago

nightmarish

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from whitetailredneck wrote 2 years 5 days ago

yall are lucky. them there moose are some deadly critters. i am happy for yall tho cuz yall will have a heck of a good story to tell. i am halso hapy cuz yal got a caribou. i have always wanted to go on a caribou hunt. great story

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from JCSoutdoorsman wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

Scary!

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from JCSoutdoorsman wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

Glad you got out safe.

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from KingFisher907 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Sounds about right, old moose hunters will tell you that moose invariably head for water when shot...thats been my experience as well though Ive been luck and never had to swim for one...

I liked the description of the charging moose too, he pretty much captured the moment...when youre after a rutting bull moose, youre hunting an animal that would love to either, A.stomp your guts out or, B.make you its new girlfriend...either way its a bad deal...there's nothing like being in thick stuff with those rut-nutty bulls, not recommended for bad hearts or weak stomachs...

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from Reli346 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

It ain't dead til you put it on your plate and stab it with a fork!

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from Happy Hunter wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

I've been hunting deer for 45 years and some have gone down w/one shot, others multiple. The ones that ran, if possible went to water. I shot a 680 pound (dressed weight) bull moose in Maine in 2005 and he went 50 yards after one 40-yard shot through the breadbasket with a 220 Grain '06 bullet in him. If you shoot one in the neck and are lucky enough to hit the spine, they'll "drop on the spot" and not move again. If you're not so lucky, anything is possible, including a charge. Overall, I like the story (maybe the swim was 300 feet, not yards?)

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from j-johnson17 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Moose are mean critters - I'm glad everyone was alright. Definitely something to talk about for years to come...

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from buck hunter 17 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

that would scare the living crap out of me. i am happy that you got it and you guys didn't get hurt.

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from coonhunter98 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

I wonder how big the caribou was.

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from alozzi wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

wow sounds like a really close call wouldnt want to be in that situation

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

What caliber were you using? This animal seemed to take a lot of punishment before finally dying?!

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from Del in KS wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Sorry if I sound like a skeptic but one guy swimming 300 yd with a 1200 lb moose in water that must have been ice cold is a bit much. The rest sounds very likely. Congratulations and thank you for your service. And like Ralph said what kind of pip sqweak was he shooting? I shot an Alaskan bull in the neck an got a 1 shot bang flop with a 350 rem. mag.

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from Christian Emter wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

I love these survival stories they always add to the magazine. all I have to say about those guys are....... THEY ARE DAMB LUCKY MATE.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

...I still would like to know what caliber this guy was using on Moose!!?

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from Big O wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Good story, and it's like I like to say to the Antis' "I just like enjoying my time in the outdoors, and only carry a high powered rifle for protection from the animals" LOL.

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from halclyon wrote 3 years 4 weeks ago

Guys, I did not know F&S had put our moose charge story on line or I would have responded earlier to your comments. I have asked F&S to publish the entire article which has photos of Gregg actually swimming out 300 yds -- Yes, 300 + or - a few yards. I even have a video of it which accounts for the 25 minutes in cold water (nearly 57 degrees).

For some of you "Doubting Thomases" the story is a true one. To answer some of your questions. My first 200 yds shot was across a smaller. The bull dropped and we thought he was down for keeps. We hustled around the pond and he got up about 100 yds away when I fired again, but a little too high into his hump. We then approached him and he charged us as in the story above. Frightening!! I shot him again in the brisket at point blank range and dove to my left to avoid being trampled and gored. (This shot whet just under his spine and I have a picture of it from his hind quarter showing it just missing his spine). He then ran to a second much larger lake where he swam out 300 yds and died. It took Gregg at least 25 mnutes in the cold water to reach the now floating moose and then he swim back towing him back to shore. He was close to hyperthermia
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aliber of the rifle was 30-06 with 180 gr bullet. His caribou is a beautiful animal with great antlers.

I know Gregg will appreciate your thanks for his USMC service to our Country. I enjoyed your comments which I have only read today over a year since you made most of them. Gregg who is overseas should see them soon as I have just alerted him to them via email. We're happy you enjoyed our TRUE story and hope that F&S will see fit to publish it in its entirety with photos.

Shoot straight!

Dr. Hal Lyon
www.deepwaterspress.com

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from Clay Cooper wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

How does that Johnny Cash song go?

I here that train a coming; it’s coming thru the brush!

Well it ought to be a song for this!!

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

OK..I'll guess it was a 30/06...for the sake of argument!

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

I have hunting the same Ranch in MT for the last 5 years. Two yrs ago I noticed a lot less game around. So I returned this past fall and was even less game than in 2007. Problem being or part of the problem is the Wolves and Cougars. My wife was glassing for me last year and she heard something up close to her, looked below her Bincs and there was a huge Cougar not 20 yds away in a sneek stalk after 2 small does. I was to far away to see or I would have ended his stalk. Legal or not, us NR hunters who pay huge sums of $$$ to hunt the Rockies for Elk, Mule Deer, W-tails etc. need to take care of this problem if the states themselves are not. I will shoot the next wolf or Cougar i see out there in the West, legal or Not.As for Griz's will be his decision if I shoot or not. But we do need to tell the Game Depts in the Western Rockies about the problems with Cougars and Wolves. I have, now what good will do remains to be seen. I understad it takes them years to decide what to do about problem game.In the intrium, with the economy in the pits and my hunt fund zilt, will just hunt with my Son here at home. We have lots of deer and plant about 10-15 acres of food plots per year. I do plan to make another hunt to the MT mtns in a couple of years, as I want to see my Son kill a Elk before I leave this grand old world. @73+, few remaining years left and sure plan to use evry minute of it the way I enjoye. Shoot-um-straight and often. Good hunting guys.

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from austin micheau wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

nature is sooo unpredictable huh

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from greywolf1419 wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

Great campfire story true or not. i enjoyed the reading.

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from single shot wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

My friend shot a cow (moose) on a logging road. A hunter behind him walked up to him, and my buddy asked for a cigarette, the other hunter turned and started to walk back down the road. A big bull jumped out of the bush,saw his cow snorted and charged my buddy 20 yards away, he was so shocked and scared, he turned and ran into the bush to get away, dropping his 30-06. He gives thanks that the other hunter had a bull tag, and wasn't far down the road. He shot the Bull.
Great Story, I like it! (having scuba intructor training, I would guess even pulling a moose 30 yards (100'), in cold water, would be a mean feat
I have heard a similar story in the union hall bar in Wawa,-- 4 old guys (white hairs, which I am now) at the table beside my buddy and I (when we we young)were having a bit of fun with us (we were wearing our hunter reds,which most everyone in Wawa does in hunting season.
We overheard one of the Gents tell his story about a bull running up and down a hill 5 times, each time he put a 30-06 into him before jumping behind a tree.
When I got up to go to the washroon, as I walked by their table,I asked him what the first 4 shots were for -to shoot the hooves off of him so he couldn't run away. Well, his buddies still couldn't talk for laughing, when I came back. He asked me if I ever shot a moose, and I said yes, it took a single shot. We bumped into them a few times in the same bar. ( for a beer or 2 before heading into the bush) and he would call me "Single Shot" and it stuck.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

To Shane: Anything I print on this Blog is from experience and the stories I mention are facts, not fiction. Todays outdorsmen really miss a golden opportunity by not going on a hunt and sitting around the campfire at night listing to the stories of others. To prove they are true makes little difference to me, the story line is interesting regardless. I do miss that faze of my now hunting, as being disabled,I am unable to hunt and camp out in the wilds as I did many years ago. But the memories are there and I miss many of the old timers of yesterday. If you never been on a hunt and camped out,by all means do so at least once while you able to do so. My memories and photos of yester year are priceless and to this day, enjoy looking at those photos and re-living the past. Just pray I can continue a few more years.But,at 73 + few remain.Shoot-um-straight and often. Doing is actual believing. Killing game is only l/2 of the experience. I do enjoy taking game that I think is a trophy in my book, but not heart-broken if I eat that tag.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

I also agree with Robert; He wrote some great books. I'm, a small guy ,l28 lbs soaking wet and large caliber, hard kicking guns i cannot use. I use Rem. 700's in 06 with lead added to the Walnut stock, making total wt near 9 l/2 lbs, 4 rounds and dcoped . With the Limbsave pad, i can handle that caliber using l80 gr Scirocco bullets. I also use a rem 700 in 25-06 for w-tail and just bought a Marlin XL7 in 270, syn stock to use at home on my 4 wheeler. i can handle the wt on it at 8 l/2 lbs. I added lead to the syn stock.Back to rounds in the magazine. I never use 5 rounds, as i want to feed the chamber from the magazine. A old habit from my 742 Rem Auto days. If you don;t place the shells in proper you got a jam and by feeding the chambr from the magazine, if a problem you gonna know prior to hunting in AM before light.If i can;t kill my Animal with 4 rounds, i need to pratice or stay home. On my top feeding hunting fiearms i only remove the one in the chamber at days in and then i re-insert that round in the gun for tomorrow unless i have to clean the gun at night. I always place a piece of Elec. tape over the Muzzle of all my guns, to keep the bbl clean an if gets wet during teh day, i clean the acion with gun scrubber to get the water out and let dry or use a hair dryer. Why spend thousands on a hunt and have a 2.00 bullet foul up your shot. I also buy the best ammo available that my guns shoot well. Not the Wally-World specials.I wll repeat a true story I told long ago. Ws at Elk amp and tis due cam in with a 3-5oo gun gase. Outfitter ask what gun he had. He informed him he had a Weatherby 300 with a Leupold scope. Outfiter ask him how it shot, gy saidI never shot the gun, the slesman said was bore sighted at 100 yds.????? Outitter walked into his tent, came back with a well used 06 and told him to use that gun on his hunt.Needless to say, he did kill a Cow Elk. Statedhis new gun was going back to sales office. Another Camp a older gentleman can in with a old 06 with grip tapped several rounds with Elec. tape.But, the crack ran all way to butt end. Next Am, old man was gone erly, about 45 min later, BAM, shotly the old man came in all bloody on his hands and ask to borrow a pack mule to get his 6 x 6 out. So 2 differernt examples with totally different guns and hunters. When i buy a new gun ( and i only use new guns i bought for my personal huntng), i scope with Nikons and Leupold steel Dual Dove tails mounts, pratice till I'm l" high at 200 yds and run a couple boxes of shells thru prior to my rocky Mtn trips This I have repeated many times, but does not hurt o remind new guys of my success. in Past l5 ys, only hve had to shoot a animal twice, not sure the 2nd was needed then, but unable to track, so wanted to make sure.And, I;m one of the few hunters who likes neck shots. i will take a frontal shot any time it presens itself. ehind the front shoulder i ok and I do take tat shot or a little moer on the front leg and break him down prior to the bullet getting to the vitals. The Sciroccos laas year i killed a huge w-tail at 270 yds, shot entered the right fore leg midway, broke it, went completely thru broke his left and his vitals wasa glob,der jumped a 4ft fence and ran 60 yds before piling up. How he jumped teh fence i will never knw s both front legs were dangling when we got to him and blood coming out both holes, nose, mouth.???? That will power in deer to live is unbelievable.Ok, enough of my mouthing. Shoot-um-stright and very often. By all means go to a Hunting Camp if you never been. No education available that you will get there.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Ralph the Rifleman:
I enjoy the aticles posted on this Blog. Like you, I do wish the guys would list the Caliber gun used and type of Ammo. A lot is to be learned from others, or at least I have. All mfgers of firearms an Ammo will lead you to believe their's is the only product worth buying. Not so. Trial and error by actual plain old guys like us are the real TESTERS. I try to list what Caliber and Ammo I use in hunting, but by now I suppose most know that the 06 is my caliber I trust and use on larger game and the 25-06 on deer size and under game. Many of us older guys can;t tolerate the kick of the larger calibers . The 06 using Scirocco's in l80 gr bullet will handle anything I plan to hunt in NA. Just hope and Pray I can return to the Rockis with my Son for a Elk/Mulie hunt to the Rockies while I'm around to enjoy. Just wish I had been beside my wife last year in Montana when she saw the Cougar at 20 yds creeping behind 2 small Does. I doubt he would ahve complete his stalk. However,as said lots lately, we/they need to allow some Wolves and Cougars be taken out of the herds. I do think it's time to allow some Wolves tags to be issued in the areas where it's a know fact they are thinning the game in many areas. The area I hunt in MT has many Wolves, and the game over the past 5 years I've been hunting there the # of game has declined by a large %. The Land Owner and my Guide have instructed me to kill any Cougar or Wolf I may see. But, when the game becomes scarce, the creatures move on to areas with more game. All hunters need to read the latest issue of Petersens HUNTING. Did not plan on writing a essay, but kinda got caried away. Shoot-um-straigh and often. Good hunting.

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from Love2Hunt wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Sounds like quite an experience.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

GS-
I haven't heard about the Boddington mishap, but I'll do some web searching for it.As for issue of permits, GREAT! I hope you get out and shoot some fur and bring us some photos to marvel at!
I think I would get the .410/.45 Derringer. I think the pistol/shotgun combo is a flexible, and potent, duo.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

WHOA Ne boy, pull up a chair and have a beer break there my friend. Name callin` should be left in grade school.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 4 weeks ago

Well, Ne boy-
I agree with you on that one, man. I try treating people the way I would like to be treated. Being a vet, I realized ya got to leave people to their opinions..make peace for yourself and believe all things happen for a purpose.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 4 weeks ago

Agree Ralph. We al have our opinions and we should respect each of his. As you stated, we got to make peach with ourselves prior to makin peace with others. i try to respect each of his opinion until I learn otherwise. Non of us perfect ( at least i'm not). I also believe most thing happen for a purpose,as i was seuupose to ahve died 20 ys ago, but ws left here for some reason. Before i leave this world,i surely want to learn why. I just try to make the best of my inabiltes and go on each day. I'v very fortunate to have hunted as much out west and here at home in past l8 yrs, and hopefully many left.Few un-rich guys gtth oppotunity to go west as many times as i have and been successful each time but once.Meet many people from Florida to Alaska, and we try to stay abreast of each other often. Learned lots and see lots. Been places i never dreamed I would ever see. I;ve seen all the states but 2, hopefully I can yet. So again, things happen for a reason, maybe thats why I was left in this world 20 yrs ago. Gonna get. Shoot-um-straight and often.

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from 007Dom wrote 4 years 1 week ago

Dang!! I saw that artical in F&S. I would be so scared. but whee did you shoot him the fist 2 times?

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from BigWoodsHunter57 wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

Amazing story, just goes to show you how unpredictable animals are..expecially when they are wounded

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from mattreney wrote 3 years 50 weeks ago

not sure whether your going to see this or not but thanks for your service greg. and i wouldnt doubt for even a minute that that moose charged ive seen deer shot three times get up and run and moose shot 5 or 6 times and still stand without even as much as a stumble if that moose was shot its going to run. your in the way and he wont hesitate to run right through you

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from blake425 wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

great story. glad they're alright.

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from dangerous game wrote 3 years 23 weeks ago

I hope gunslinger won't use his 25-06 on a cougar or wolf. Happy hunting:)

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from celie wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

I'm Celie, I work at Tuckamore Lodge where Mr. Lyon and his son Greg had this adventure. For any of you who doubt his story, I can assure you it's accurate.

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from Bass2Buck wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

i dont know much about moose but i hear they get real mean

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from brucepatryn wrote 2 years 29 weeks ago

nightmarish

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from steve182 wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

Yeah, Same thing happened to me once, yeah,...Once.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

I love those old campfire and bar-room stories. True or not, makes for good listing. I recall my first Fox hunt with a lot of older gents setting around a campfire with a l/2 gallon of shine at hand. Now and then one would say listen, thats old Blue etc. in fron of the pack. I never like to hunt anything I could not see, but those old guys (my age now) really had a great time in thoe days long ago forgotten.Sa todays hunters have the time to spare to go to a hunt camp and enjoy the guys. To me, thats l/2 the hunt. Just wish had some guys to go with now. Was in a Bar in North Montana a few yrs back,and wasa few older guys there telling tall tales. Being new to the area, I just listened and had a great night with those guys. Doubt if they arose very early the next day. Being disabled and almos deaf, I play with this Puter and read a lot.Can;t understand TV, Have really read some great hunt stories by the past experts. Love the oldies better than this electronic age of being spoiled to the comfots of a Holiday Inn. Shoot-um-straight and often.

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from shane wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

I don't know how much of this is true, but you can always tell the people that haven't done much of interest in the wild. They're the ones that deny any sort of wild story. Just because you're boring doesn't mean everyone else is.

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from shane wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

OK...I'm in agreement with you. I'm just dissing the people that are always trying to deny these kinda stories just because they can't see themselves doing it.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

Shane: If I had my adult life to re-lieve, I would own property in the Rockies and operate a hunting, guide service. But that's 20-20 now. There is no place on earth more plesant than being in Deer/Elk Camp with a good bunch of guys and telling storis of their own or one's they heard. Some of those old-times ( like me) can make a hunt more enjoyable, even if you eat your tag. My guide in Montana is working a hunt for me again where we camp out at 8-9K feet for a few days. My being disabled/handicapped not sure it will work for me, but I got to give it a try again. Back packing by horse is out of the question, as I;ve had both hips replaced( plus I have a Ileostomy bag) and my Dr. will not permit me to ride a horse. But, we can drive to the area he plans to camp and haul all our gear. I;m able to walk a few paces and sit and wait for game to come my way (hopefully). His grandpa was planning to do this 4yrs ago,but he had a heart attack and left us. So hopefully my guide and my Son and a good friend in Missoula,Mt,Plan on trying this camp out hunt in 2010. If i am unable to stay out, will go to a Motel about 10 miles away and drive back and forth. I want to be around when my Son gets his Elk and i want that Cougar my wife saw last year plus a nice Mulie. Good Hunting. Shoot-um-straight and often. One last bit of info. A rifle bullet only reaches a height of 2 l/2" above the line of sight, or heigth of the axis. So a Zero of 200 yds + l" is a safe zero for Western hunting and here at home. I just hold a tad lower here than out west. But with the new Ammo available, they fly flatter and straightr with the Polymer tips than the soft points in my guns.Well maintained,clean firearms is a must for good accuracy, plus much pratice. Have you ever used a Buff lead bullet in a 375? if so, what results did you get on Elk size game. I love the Scirocco's in my 06 in l80 grs, will shoot thru a Deer or Elk broadside and leave a good blood trail if needed. But I prefer a one shot kill as unable to track, I do shoot a lot of game directly looking at me in the neck/chest area. Last fall I killed a 9 pt W-tail at 170 yds with B/p I aimed at the white patch on his neck, he hit the grund instantly. I was using 120 gr.pellets and POwerbelt 225 gr. sabots. Never found the bullet when dressed out. So assumed when completely thru. Ok have fun shooting.

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from buckshot89 wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

i'm glad there arn't any moose in ohio...

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from buckshot89 wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

i had a squirelle come back to life once. not as good of a story as this though or quite as terrifying.

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from Jere Smith wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Well as Robert Ruark was fond of Saying and one of his BOOKS was titled " Use Enough Gun!". The best advice I ever heard!

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from moosemania wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

THAT SUCKS

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Ralph the Rifleman:
I just received a e-mail from Montana.The Wolf yes and Cougar??? has been de-listed as a endageroed animal. Tags will be sold (100) for Montana for Wolves, Cougas????. They estimae that Montana has l300 Wolves, Wisc, MN , Kanas has 4.000. So appears I'm not the only one griping about them out west. I for got Idaho also will resume hunting wolves his fall # not available. Now, will begin saving my $$$ for 2010, so I can go back to MT and maybe get a shot. Did you read where Caig Boddington;s daughter, Britany shot a tracker in Africa who was attacked by an Leopord. She thought( so story goes) that she was shooting at the Leopard. Man was badly mauled by the Leopard, and she shot him in his hips. He's yet alive and Brittany has begun to established a fund from us hunters to pay his Medical expenses????????She shot him, not we/us, where is her liability ins.???? Appears Caig failed to inform her to make sure of her target???? lessons need to be taught, right? I think my Home-owners ins. coves such, I will suely check in AM. Also, it has allways be instilled in most of us hunters mind, to always make sure of your target and what is behind it, etc. I just wanted you an the othee readers that I had not been blowing smoke about the Wolves and Cougars out West. I don;t know how to forward the news link, as it was attached to some other news Items from DC. If figure it out will forward. Shoot-um-straight and often. Hey, if you were bying a Derringer , what would you buy???& Caliber, plus on the cheaper side. Hey, got a E-mail from Rem. the Dble s x s 06 from EAA they acquired, is yet available, I ordered one.They yet are imported from Italy. When arrives may be some time. Hope so by Sept.. 2010 Be good, graet hunting. Shoot-um-sraight and ofen. Hope Moose Man likes this, he did not like my other items, his loss, not mine.

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

A hunt to the Rockies is an experience that words cannot describe. My first trip out, 20 odd yrs ago, as we left Denver for Craig, C0 in our rental 4 x 4 (we carried a guy along who had been many times) he was driving and I continued to make him stop for pictures. He stated, that we ahd 300 miles to go and the scenery in Caig was wonderful. How true. Since then, I've hunted other parts of C0, WY, MT, Idaho, Nebraska and evry trip has it's moments. But my hunt in Wy with a group of disabled guys in wheel-chairs for Lopes has to take the top prize for my most enjoyale hunt. Can always see someone in worse shape than ourselves. All l3 of us in that hunt filld our Lope tags. I', looking forward to another Wyhunt for Lopes and Elk. Just as soon as the DOW increases by Hunt fund, I will apply for tags. I wish all on this Blg gets to or has gotten the opportunity to hunt the Rockies, it's s different world at l0K ft. Have decided any hunt at my age is a new experience and look forward to the next season West and at home with my new Marlin.It;s such a thrill to leason to the stories around the camp at night that these guys disabled have gone thru in order to hunt. Have fun, hunt ofen and shoot straight.

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from Ne boy wrote 4 years 4 weeks ago

Well Ralph some people like Jay just dont accept their weeknesses. And he needs to respect our veterans.

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from Thorbolt wrote 4 years 6 days ago

I spent a wonderful year at a USAF Radar site outside of Stephenville, NFLD (66-67), on the island, not old Labrador. I married a local and have been back a couple of times. My family all hunts; moose and bear. The terrain is thick brush on shale.
The author goes hunting with 3 shells - must think he's a heck of a shot. Then there's the expanding lake..... He must have been drinking Newfie Screech when he wrote this fable.
Check out Dhoon Lodge.com.

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from yohan wrote 3 years 45 weeks ago

Hmmmm lemme see ,.. 300 yds is poke ,.. however swimming means diffeent things to different peopl.
If it wasnt too deep ,..say chest high to to a tall Lac du flambo yuk yuk
Its possible to drag em through the water,.. Ive seen that ,. Depending on where hit they can pretty boyant right after they give up the ghost .

Plus any guy just off three tours is part mule anyway ( been there done that) .
More over ladys and Gentlmen ,.. camps Ive been in almost ALWAYS have 1/2 inch rope that amounts to about 100 yds or about 300 ft.?? Ive helped pull on a couple . and it aint all tghat bad.

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from Cranky Canauck wrote 3 years 45 weeks ago

Good story,Ive been moose hunting for 12 years I got for nice one and someone in our party alwayes gets one if i dont.They always fold one shot 30/06 180 gr,never seen them run or have to look for them.The only two we lost and never found were shot by my cousin roger with his 300 mag,he cant come anymore!!!!

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from dangerous game wrote 3 years 30 weeks ago

Use a 300 at least maybe even a 338 rum or 375. As for gunslinger i know your anger but don't blame it all on wolfs and cougars.

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from Luke.fortier@sb... wrote 3 years 21 weeks ago

nice, i can't believe you had to shoot it that many times, id pry crap my pants if a bull moose charged me.

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from jwallen wrote 3 years 18 weeks ago

A few years ago my son and I were working on a new design of moose call with a sliding reed and log pleated hose that you could change the tone to from the higher cow calls all the way to the most guttural wuuuhgh that you could imagine. We took off out the back door and into the "Far North Bicentennial Park" behind the house. The moose had been in full rut for several days so I thought it would be a good time to test the call. We only went about 200 yards over the hill and into a thick stand of black spruce. I could see some cows moving in a swampy area 100 yards or so ahead of us. I let out one estrus cow call and then followed it with a loud, guttural and extremely low hormonal bull grunt. Instantly a big big bull with a 60" plus rack came flying out of the thick brush right in front of us. He was charging the noise, coming straight up the trail we were on. I grabbed the son by the shirt collar and pushed him ahead of me towards a clump of spruce trees that I knew the bulls rack would not fit through. We just got into the clump when he reached us. He stopped and raked his antlers on the trees just three feet from us. He turned and trotted back towards his cows going wugh, wugh, wugh. I guess he was satisfied that the rival had been dealt with. I looked at my son and was glad he was ok. Then I noticed that he was standing there in his stocking feet! We had taken off so quick that he had literally run right out of his shoes. I think that this is easily one of the top ten stupidest things I have ever done!

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from TheRockies wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Never been charge by a moose but have been charged by anger javelina...have to say its pretty scary

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from TheRockies wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Never been charge by a moose but have been charged by anger javelina...have to say its pretty scary

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from TheRockies wrote 3 years 15 weeks ago

Never been charge by a moose but have been charged by anger javelina...have to say its pretty scary

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from Coachcl wrote 2 years 41 weeks ago

Pretty impressive.

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from On a call wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

I am on the same page with you ! Just returned from an alaskan moose hunt. My buddy and I took a nice bull. He was about a 1500 pounder. My buddy had a 300 ultra mag shooting 180 grain bullet, I a 30-06 shooting 180 grainers also. I shot 5 times and he 2 into this bull at 160 yards ( lasered ). He stood there and took every shoot into his chest..one shoot missed. Stood there after we were done went to head towards the water and droped.

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from ironmountain wrote 2 years 30 weeks ago

I have just returned from Missouri to live in Alaska. I brought back two rifles with me for hunting up here.
Winchester Model 70 Fetherweight 30-06bolt action.
And the "like new"
Remington 742 woodsmaster 30-06 semi- auto!
I have 220 grain "Remington" Exress Core-Lokt rounds.I know others are beter.but 200 gn are not available.
I would consider a 200 grain re-lode, but would not use 180gn on a moose, especially at closer ranges as are the case here.
A 180 grain is for a longer shot anyways. If you are 300+ yards away, then the moose probably won't charge that far, before you clober him again and again.
Now if he is in close;Then hit em with a real piece of lead! Not to mention when you start ringing the dinner bell, you will be glad you have the 220 grains to shew away the GRIZZ.
Stayin worm in the Valley!

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from whitetailredneck wrote 2 years 5 days ago

yall are lucky. them there moose are some deadly critters. i am happy for yall tho cuz yall will have a heck of a good story to tell. i am halso hapy cuz yal got a caribou. i have always wanted to go on a caribou hunt. great story

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from JCSoutdoorsman wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

Scary!

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from JCSoutdoorsman wrote 1 year 18 weeks ago

Glad you got out safe.

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

OK,SO, we still DON'T KNOW WHAT CARTRIDGE THE GUY IN THIS MOOSE STORY WAS USING??

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from Ralph the Rifleman wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

GS-
I hope you can make the hunt, as well!
As for this Moose "story" that's all it is a STORY and piles of BS!

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from Ne boy wrote 4 years 5 weeks ago

Jay your a jerk. just because you cant swim 300 yards doesnt mean this guy couldnt, and remember the moose was probably floating so he could have pulled it. hes not a pussey like you

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from Gunslinger wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

Who sucks Mooseman??????? Look in the mirrow, maybe he's there????? My puter has a Delete button on it, does yours?

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from RDP4FandS wrote 4 years 8 weeks ago

A Newfoundland Tall-Story?

Upon closer examination of the story, there seem to be quite a few contradictions that bring into serious question the veracity of the story! Et al:

He saw the buck 200 yards away on the other side of a lake.......But when he was within 100 yards, it got up and started trotting away....... He fired again......
So, it sounds like he fired again when he was in the middle of the lake!

It took him 25 minutes to pull the moose 300 yards back to shore.
Hmmmmm, 300 yards- Sounds here like the lake suddenly got about 100 yards wider! However---------

Greg took off his hunting gear and swam to the bull...... It took him 25 minutes to pull the moose 300 yards back to shore.
Greg swam out to the bull. Since it took 25 minutes to swim back with the bull in tow, it must have taken Greg at least 25 minutes to get to it plus (considering drag) at least 25 minutes to tow it back, for a total of 50 minutes. At a (conservative) average speed of 5 MPH, the total distance Greg swam had to be close to 3/4 mi. That equals about 1700 yards! O.K., even if you cut the distance Greg swam in half, that would STILL be about 850 yards!!!

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from senkoman12 wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

sure swim 300 yards and pull in a half ton moose yeah right waht then run into bigffot on the way back

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from jay wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

Ya right, sure he did.

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