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March 05, 2010

Cermele: Are You A Smoker?

By Joe Cermele

One of the finest presents my wife ever gave me long before we were married was a Luhr Jensen Big Chief wood smoker. I have a heroin-like addiction to smoked salmon and trout, lox, and the ever-so-delicious Scandanavian gravlax. Needless to say this was a fine gift, and for a while there I found it necessary to treat every fish I kept for the table to an applewood or hickory smoking. Bring a nice platter of smoked fish you caught to a party and folks are impressed. It's fun to look fancy.

Smoking also works wonders on fish that are acquired tastes to begin with. As an example, the picture above is of a few racks of smoked Atlantic bonito fillets I made last summer. I happen to like this fish fresh. Many people do not. But serve it up smoked and they lick the plate clean.

However, I never got terribly creative with my brines for fear of messing up a batch of fish that smoked for all those hours. My preferred brew for oily fish, like bonito or bluefish, was ice water, brown sugar, sea salt, orange juice, fresh basil, and a splash of lime juice. Not super impressive I know, but it tasted good. I was very into honey glazes for mild fish like trout and salmon, sometimes even spilling a touch of beer into the brine for an added nuttiness.

I'm not sure how many of you smoke fish, but if you do, I'd love to hear about which fish you prefer and your favorite brines. And if you're into dry-rubs, I'm all ears on those, too. I need some new recipes -- JC

 

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

for the brave a real treat from here :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakfisk
best when it drops from the bone by itself :P

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from Bella wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

My buddy Moose brought me a nice smoker he trash picked (that's My Price!). I've used it to smoke cabrito ribs salmon and pork, does an awesome job. Uses charcoal and wood chips. I'm still learning, but I prefer dry rubs on red meats (for smokin') and usually I smoke the fish as is.
Home smoked meat goes with home brewed beer, home made cheese, home baked bread and homemade dill pickles. I can do it all!

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from blackdawgz wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Salmon and Steelhead and geese are plentiful here. I smoke them like the Indians around here do. You don't need to put anything on them to make them taste good.

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from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Now your talking my language! Smoke all the above!!

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from MPN wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Well spoke Cooper

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from steve182 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

my only personal experience is smoking Venison, which i highly recommend. I will advance to fish and other meats shortly. Oh...I smoked a chicken once, was great though the pink color of the meat gave pause to some. A meat thermometer is imperative, as is an accurate thermometer in the smoker. I prefer to brine overnight at least, preferrably longer. Then dry rub. An old farmer told me he brines for a week.

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from MPN wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoked pike is my personal favorite, lotta bones though.

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from kirkdeeter wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I smoke Cohiba Supremos (sometimes) when I fish... and brook trout when I am done.

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from backlash wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I have been a smoked food lover since Mom used to make smoked fish, pork chops, chicken and even cheese when I was a kid. My favorite brine is still the simplest one that Mom used which is 1 gallon water, 1cup pickling salt and 1/2 cup brown sugar. Brine fish, chicken or any meat overnight. Now I try to make my own and have people drool over my offerings. I switched over to a Masterbuilt electric with timer and temp control and it works better during the winter months when I seem to have the most time to do it. Still like the fish I catch but my new rage is a modification of the above techniques... McCormick Pork rub generously spread on pork baby back ribs, let sit overnight in zip lock in fridge. Then smoke with hickory chips for 3 hours at 200 degrees. Wrap them in foil and cook another 3 hours at 200 degrees. Then unwrap and coat with some bbq sauce and crisp them up on the grill. Enjoy!

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from TJ wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

If it can be caught, I can smoke it. Some fish like snapper, are better fresh.

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from gman3186 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

smoke is the way to go any type of meat is fine just use the method of low and slow

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from shane wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoke anything and I'll eat it.

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from Del in KS wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

My big chief was a POS the burner went kuput the first year. Went to Cabela's and bought a Masterbuilt which is much better in several ways. If like really good smoked bacon go to Wallyworld and buy their brand of thick sliced bacon and smoke it with Applewood chips for about 6 hours. Your tongue will slap your brains out,haha. I smoke just about anything.

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from gman3186 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

i guess i will give you guys alittle secret of mine when it comes to cooking with wood chips instead of soaking them in water try jack daniels adds a diffrent flavor with the smoke and you can drink whatever is left

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from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoked Salmon or Mullet are my favorite fish, anything you cam smoke is good however.

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from MLH wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoked salmon is a favorite. When out for the weekend the fist days catch goes to a local smokehouse. Second day's catch goes into the cooler. Smell sticks to your hands for days, but the taste is worth it. Afraid I don't have their recipe. Would like to pick up a nice smoker someday (I got in trouble one day just for making venison jerky in the house). Warned her son not to do the same so grandma suffered though it.

Yummy - dried and shaved bonito is a Japanese staple. It's the fish flavour in soup bases. Also nice added directly on top of soup with chopped green onions and seaweed, or tossed on rice with other spices and tamari.

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from fisherman14 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I've never used a smoker or smoked any meat. But, a friend of mine in New Hampshire smakes venison, bear sausages and trout. Its really good!

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from stick500 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoked carp! A delicacy!!

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from VAHunter540 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I would love to get into smoking my fish and meat... any suggestions on a good smoker for a rookie?

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from wm657 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Joe, Please give us the recipe for the brine that you mentioned in the initial post. It's new to me and sounds a lot more exciting than what I've been using. Thanks

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from ejunk wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

cermele -

this might sound crazy (and it may have already been mentioned) but try leaving the water out of your brines. those fish have water in them and the salt in your recipe will draw out the liquid and make a natural brine. the resultant flavors are noticeably superior (in my opinion, of course). leave out the OJ, too, and just replace with orange zest. same with the lime.

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Evan!

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from ejunk wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

oh, I should also say that in a "dry brine" (which won't stay dry for long), it's helpful to stack the fish on top of one another in tupperware or something similar. I mention this because "wet brines" seem to call for putting the fish face down (skin up) in a flat dish.

yrs-
Evan!

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from Joe_Cermele wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I'll try that Evan, good stuff.

Wm657, though Evan recommends trying the same brine without the water, here's my original mix. This is for four to six smaller fillets or two larger salmon fillets:

2 quarts ice water
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/2 cup sea salt

Mix and dissolve the salt and sugar in the water. Add is 1/4-cup of OJ and the juice from 1 lime. Mash up a handful of basil leaves and throw them in. Brine the fish overnight. I'll quickly rinse the fillets and let them air-dry on the racks for two hours to form a pellicle, then smoke for 4 to 6 hours depending on the fillet thickness, usually using 2 pans of wood chips.

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from ejunk wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

awesome, Joe! I hope it works out for you!

one general thing, my buddies and I have noticed that the single most important part of the whole process is the air drying step. screw that up and your end product isn't going to be up to snuff. I've taken to putting them in an unheated oven, on the rack, and putting a fan in the front to circulate air around them. works great!

yrs-
Evan!

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

We smoke our meat by tradtion apple wood, cherry wood, cotton wood. Its hard to eat because its hard to stop eating!

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from Casey Walker wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Simpler is always better with this stuff. My favorite for fish is a dry salt cure of mortons tender quick, brown and white sugar, dryed dill weed and black pepper, cover both sides of the fish wrap in plastic wrap and put in fridge for 3 to 4 days. I like to smoke with apple or cherry wood as hickory and other hard woods seem to over power the fish. Makes for some great snacks with ritz crackers or a great spread mixed with sour cream or cream cheese on a bagel. Man I am hungry now!

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from gman3186 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

i guess i will give you guys alittle secret of mine when it comes to cooking with wood chips instead of soaking them in water try jack daniels adds a diffrent flavor with the smoke and you can drink whatever is left

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from ingebrigtsen wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

for the brave a real treat from here :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakfisk
best when it drops from the bone by itself :P

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from steve182 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

my only personal experience is smoking Venison, which i highly recommend. I will advance to fish and other meats shortly. Oh...I smoked a chicken once, was great though the pink color of the meat gave pause to some. A meat thermometer is imperative, as is an accurate thermometer in the smoker. I prefer to brine overnight at least, preferrably longer. Then dry rub. An old farmer told me he brines for a week.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from kirkdeeter wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I smoke Cohiba Supremos (sometimes) when I fish... and brook trout when I am done.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from shane wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoke anything and I'll eat it.

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from stick500 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoked carp! A delicacy!!

+3 Good Comment? | | Report
from blackdawgz wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Salmon and Steelhead and geese are plentiful here. I smoke them like the Indians around here do. You don't need to put anything on them to make them taste good.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from MPN wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Well spoke Cooper

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from MPN wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoked pike is my personal favorite, lotta bones though.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from backlash wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I have been a smoked food lover since Mom used to make smoked fish, pork chops, chicken and even cheese when I was a kid. My favorite brine is still the simplest one that Mom used which is 1 gallon water, 1cup pickling salt and 1/2 cup brown sugar. Brine fish, chicken or any meat overnight. Now I try to make my own and have people drool over my offerings. I switched over to a Masterbuilt electric with timer and temp control and it works better during the winter months when I seem to have the most time to do it. Still like the fish I catch but my new rage is a modification of the above techniques... McCormick Pork rub generously spread on pork baby back ribs, let sit overnight in zip lock in fridge. Then smoke with hickory chips for 3 hours at 200 degrees. Wrap them in foil and cook another 3 hours at 200 degrees. Then unwrap and coat with some bbq sauce and crisp them up on the grill. Enjoy!

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from TJ wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

If it can be caught, I can smoke it. Some fish like snapper, are better fresh.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from gman3186 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

smoke is the way to go any type of meat is fine just use the method of low and slow

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Del in KS wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

My big chief was a POS the burner went kuput the first year. Went to Cabela's and bought a Masterbuilt which is much better in several ways. If like really good smoked bacon go to Wallyworld and buy their brand of thick sliced bacon and smoke it with Applewood chips for about 6 hours. Your tongue will slap your brains out,haha. I smoke just about anything.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Jere Smith wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoked Salmon or Mullet are my favorite fish, anything you cam smoke is good however.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from MLH wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Smoked salmon is a favorite. When out for the weekend the fist days catch goes to a local smokehouse. Second day's catch goes into the cooler. Smell sticks to your hands for days, but the taste is worth it. Afraid I don't have their recipe. Would like to pick up a nice smoker someday (I got in trouble one day just for making venison jerky in the house). Warned her son not to do the same so grandma suffered though it.

Yummy - dried and shaved bonito is a Japanese staple. It's the fish flavour in soup bases. Also nice added directly on top of soup with chopped green onions and seaweed, or tossed on rice with other spices and tamari.

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from fisherman14 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I've never used a smoker or smoked any meat. But, a friend of mine in New Hampshire smakes venison, bear sausages and trout. Its really good!

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from VAHunter540 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I would love to get into smoking my fish and meat... any suggestions on a good smoker for a rookie?

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from wm657 wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Joe, Please give us the recipe for the brine that you mentioned in the initial post. It's new to me and sounds a lot more exciting than what I've been using. Thanks

+2 Good Comment? | | Report
from Bella wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

My buddy Moose brought me a nice smoker he trash picked (that's My Price!). I've used it to smoke cabrito ribs salmon and pork, does an awesome job. Uses charcoal and wood chips. I'm still learning, but I prefer dry rubs on red meats (for smokin') and usually I smoke the fish as is.
Home smoked meat goes with home brewed beer, home made cheese, home baked bread and homemade dill pickles. I can do it all!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from Clay Cooper wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Now your talking my language! Smoke all the above!!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from ejunk wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

cermele -

this might sound crazy (and it may have already been mentioned) but try leaving the water out of your brines. those fish have water in them and the salt in your recipe will draw out the liquid and make a natural brine. the resultant flavors are noticeably superior (in my opinion, of course). leave out the OJ, too, and just replace with orange zest. same with the lime.

yrs-
Evan!

+1 Good Comment? | | Report
from ejunk wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

oh, I should also say that in a "dry brine" (which won't stay dry for long), it's helpful to stack the fish on top of one another in tupperware or something similar. I mention this because "wet brines" seem to call for putting the fish face down (skin up) in a flat dish.

yrs-
Evan!

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from Joe_Cermele wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

I'll try that Evan, good stuff.

Wm657, though Evan recommends trying the same brine without the water, here's my original mix. This is for four to six smaller fillets or two larger salmon fillets:

2 quarts ice water
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/2 cup sea salt

Mix and dissolve the salt and sugar in the water. Add is 1/4-cup of OJ and the juice from 1 lime. Mash up a handful of basil leaves and throw them in. Brine the fish overnight. I'll quickly rinse the fillets and let them air-dry on the racks for two hours to form a pellicle, then smoke for 4 to 6 hours depending on the fillet thickness, usually using 2 pans of wood chips.

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from ejunk wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

awesome, Joe! I hope it works out for you!

one general thing, my buddies and I have noticed that the single most important part of the whole process is the air drying step. screw that up and your end product isn't going to be up to snuff. I've taken to putting them in an unheated oven, on the rack, and putting a fan in the front to circulate air around them. works great!

yrs-
Evan!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from www.dropjhook.com wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

We smoke our meat by tradtion apple wood, cherry wood, cotton wood. Its hard to eat because its hard to stop eating!

0 Good Comment? | | Report
from Casey Walker wrote 1 year 48 weeks ago

Simpler is always better with this stuff. My favorite for fish is a dry salt cure of mortons tender quick, brown and white sugar, dryed dill weed and black pepper, cover both sides of the fish wrap in plastic wrap and put in fridge for 3 to 4 days. I like to smoke with apple or cherry wood as hickory and other hard woods seem to over power the fish. Makes for some great snacks with ritz crackers or a great spread mixed with sour cream or cream cheese on a bagel. Man I am hungry now!

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