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March 28, 2013

EPA: More Than Half of U.S. Streams and Rivers Are Sick

By Bob Marshall

It’s official: America’s streams and rivers are in serious trouble.

This isn’t from a green group; it’s from the Environmental Protection Agency, which this week released its first comprehensive survey looking at the health of thousands of streams across the nation. The 2008-2009 National Rivers and Stream Assessment  found that more than half of those systems – 55-percent – are “in poor conditions for aquatic life.”

That, of course, includes fish.

“The health of our nation’s rivers, lakes, bays and coastal waters depends on the vast network of streams where they begin, and this new science shows that America’s streams and rivers are under significant pressure,” said Nancy Stoner, the EPA’s Acting Assistant Administrator for Water. “We must continue to invest in protecting and restoring our nation’s streams and rivers as they are vital sources of our drinking water, provide many recreational opportunities, and play a critical role in the economy.”

Since the field work in this survey was completed in 2009, it’s safe to say the conditions of most of these troubled waters has worsened, because riparian areas have been largely without Clean Water Act protections since 2006 when the Supreme Court ruled Congress never intended to include those habitats – or isolated and temporary wetlands like the prairie potholes – in the original act.

Congress could have quickly restored those safeguards by passing a law saying, “Yes we did.” But powerful development and agriculture interests have trumped sportsmen on this issue ever since.

The recent EPA survey found a laundry list of ills that have degraded the quality of most of America’s streams, including:

Nitrogen and phosphorus are at excessive levels. Twenty-seven percent of the nation’s rivers and streams have excessive levels of nitrogen, and 40 percent have high levels of phosphorus. Too much nitrogen and phosphorus in the water—known as nutrient pollution—causes significant increases in algae, which harms water quality, food resources and habitats, and decreases the oxygen that fish and other aquatic life need to survive. Nutrient pollution has impacted many streams, rivers, lakes, bays and coastal waters for the past several decades, resulting in serious environmental and human health issues, and impacting the economy. 


Streams and rivers are at an increased risk due to decreased vegetation cover and increased human disturbance.
These conditions can cause streams and rivers to be more vulnerable to flooding, erosion, and pollution. Vegetation along rivers and streams slows the flow of rainwater so it does not erode stream banks, removes pollutants carried by rainwater, and helps maintain water temperatures that support healthy streams for aquatic life. Approximately 24 percent of the rivers and streams monitored were rated poor due to the loss of healthy vegetative cover.

Increased bacteria levels. High bacteria levels were found in nine percent of stream and river miles, making those waters potentially unsafe for swimming and other recreation.

Increased mercury levels. More than 13,000 miles of rivers have fish with mercury levels that may be unsafe for human consumption. For most people, the health risk from mercury by eating fish and shellfish is not a health concern, but some fish and shellfish contain higher levels of mercury that may harm an unborn baby’s or young child's developing nervous system. 



Congressmen who have been blocking the restoration of Clean Water Act protections to stream sides for almost a decade had better wake up, or we could face a serious problem in fisheries—not to mention drinking water.

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from Dcast wrote 11 weeks 3 days ago

The clean water act hasn't gone anywhere it is alive and doing well. For those who do not live in a bunker under constant threat of the destruction of man by evil apparently everything, lets discuss this without the fear mongering. EPA still enforces strict ground water, industrial runoff, construction runoff, storm water runooff, etc... rules but the only one they don't have much to say about is the farming industry. As another precaution cities have implemented their own storm water ordinances to help protect stream sedimentation. I deal with the EPA almost everyday in my job. The cities are getting to be eviromental nazi's I'm sure you'd be proud of. I'm trying to put in a less than a acre parking lot within the City of Springfield Ohio, and you would think we were trying to construct a nuclear power plant, and many cities are getting to be this way. Regulations and requirements that are nearly impossible to meet financially and physically.

You can thank "BIG AG" for most all polution. Both democrats and republicans won't take this fight up because of the romance associated with farming. This maybe the one and only thing bipartisan in congress.

I would also like to say it isn't safe to assume the ground water has "worsened", it's the same or better for most parts of the USA. Also the EPA is a "green group"!

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from Steward wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Forgive me, but the first thing I want to know is, "Have the standards changed?" I mean, this is the EPA that wanted to redefine ditches and navigable waterways (if I remember the news reports correctly...feel free to shoot me down).

I agree with keeping toxins out of our rivers and streams as much as possible...I do question some of the mechanisms in place.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

As a former field biologist that travels from NY to Ak on a fairly regular basis by road, 24 trips since 1970, I doubt this data. There is no way on God's green earth that that % of our waterways could be that polluted and maintain the bald eagle and osprey population that we currently have. No way. The EPA is fabricating evidence for political reasons. Anyone with the ability to reason and observe can refute this data. Field and Stream should be on the side of objective reality not in the pocket of big government and the hugely profitable special interests in the green movement.

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from Douglas wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

All I see is more and more bubbly green algae in what used to be clear water streams, springs, and lakes. Miles from ag runoff and other sources of nutrient pollution. Where on earth is that coming from? The air?
This is in country north of the Adirondack park.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Lab, Did you even bother to read the report? I don't see how a real biologist with any freshwater biology training could come to your conclusion. Have you ever driven through the midwest? Every decent sized river and lake I can think of within a 50 mile radius of me is heavily impacted by cultural eutrophication. Also, “poor conditions for aquatic life” does not mean nothing will survive in it, it merely means that the species present are more tolerant, and intolerant species are likely not existent.

Also, though I've not got much experience with osprey, the presence of bald eagles is not necessarily indicative of much regarding water quality. Most of the eagles near me prey almost exclusively on non-native carp, which can exist in some of the most heavily polluted waters out there.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

55%" poor conditions for aquatic life". Bald eagles and ospreys are sight hunters which prey almost exclusively on Aquatic life during the breeding season. The bald eagle population has increased from extinct or damn near so east of the Mississippi River and south of the Canadian Border to being removed from the endangered species list. In NY State in 2006 60 pairs fledged 3 yng each which is a amazing statistic for any area of North America much less a state with "poor conditions for aquatic life". These populations are growing. Growing populations are not suffering from poor conditions. The study has some massive problems. I agree that carp are a part of the diet, but they can't be loaded up with pcbs and other chemicals because bald eagles have been shown to not be tolerant. The recovery of the bald eagle is due to the recovery of the rivers, streams and lakes of North America. The study doesn't name just one area it makes widespread claims.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

"The recovery of the bald eagle is due to the recovery of the rivers, streams and lakes of North America."

The overwhelming reason bald eagles in the lower 48 were endangered is due to DDT - that's it. You're basing your entire claim about waterways being fine, due to one chemical? Also, Carp aren't high in PCBs or Mercury due to their low trophic level. In regards to bald eagles, the invasive Carp has been great for them.

Being a "field biologist", surely you've heard of an index of biological integrity?

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from jay wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Agriculture is the biggest by far contributer to polution in our waterways. Industry is not even close.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

DDT was one of many chemicals that was responsible for the loss of bald eagles, osprey and peregrines. Water clarity is another huge and I believe underappreciated factor. Bald eagles haven't been this plentiful in much of the country since the early 1800s. The increase in water clarity since the passage of the clean water act in the 70s is remarkable. In Alberta the primary food fish for Bald eagles during the nesting season in the Oil Sands area during the mid 1970s was northern pike.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Dcast - I agree with you 100% about agriculture. It is harder to pinpoint problems due to the relatively non-point source nature of agriculture, but realistically that's a cop out. Grand Lake St. Mary's in your neck of the woods is certainly a prime example of it.

Jay - with a few important local exceptions, nation-wide, you're right on the money.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

The presence or lack of a climax predator in a watershed is a good quick indicator of the health of a watershed. Increasing populations of bald eagles and osprey would indicate a system with much better than "poor conditions for aquatic life". Bald eagles and osprey are extremely mobile. If the conditions of a given area were to worsen they would move. Driving through NY, Pa, Ohio, Indiana, Ill., Wi., Mn., N Dakota, and then through Canada to Prince Rupert in BC gives a transect through the bulk of North America. If the birds are there a person trained in aerial surveying will spot them or their nests. 55% of aquatic habitat is not poor.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

What is a better indicator of the health of a waterway - an organism who does not live in the water but who gets a portion of its diet from fish or looking at the actual inhabitants that live within that water?

HINT: Bald eagles regularly nest near Grand Lake St. Mary's in western Ohio. If that's not an example of poor water quality, I don't know what is.

Again, have you ever heard of an index of biological index?

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from Hoski wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Ah yes, the old "Eagles and Ospreys are around so everything is okie dokie" measuring stick.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

That should've read "Index of biological integrity" instead of "index of biological index"

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from Hoski wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Here's one of the times I agree with Dcast. Big AG seems to be a darling on the hill.

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from coachsjike wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

our economy sucks, can't find ammo anymore, and now more than half of our streams, rivers, and lakes are major trouble...wtf is next? alcohol will be banned in all 50 states bringing back prohibition and moonshine.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

So the reader photos which show fish are fake? The articles in the mag and website which talk about fishing around the country are fake? Is Lake Erie dead? The study doesn't say that conditions for trophy fish are not ideal in 55% of the streams and rivers in the country. The study claims that conditions for aquatic life are poor for 55% of streams and rivers. Government experts warn you about the dangers of weapons of war on our streets too. This study is aimed at the people who think food comes from grocery stores. I can't believe that you guys can fall for it.

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from rock rat wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

My boogie man is housing developments. At least big Agriculture feeds us. We have very few creeks and streams, all the runoff from out sprawling housing developments goes into our waterways. There's that "nitrogen and phosphorus" running off irrigated lawns that by statute homeowners are required to have. "Bacteria" is from all the dog poop on those lawns. Not much runs off from agriculture here, they waste no water.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

"I can't believe that you guys can fall for it." Fall for what, exactly? Using current state-of-the-science methods, they basically did a biological census. The EPA's study is based on the overall health of the entire aquatic community - NOT the health of a few choice fish species and CERTAINLY NOT bird populations. Based on your statements, you appear to be as adept at being a field biologist as I am at knitting. If you actually looked at the study, you'd realize that their ratings are "based on a robust, commonly used index that combines different measures of the condition of aquatic benthic macroinvertebrates."

It is far and away the most common method used to determine whether a stream is impacted. You look at the number of species present - the more diversity (i.e. more species present), the better the water quality. If there's not enough oxygen in the water, oxygen-sensitive species will be absent. If there's too much metal contamination, metal-sensitive species will be absent. Based on those measurements - which have absolutely nothing to do with fish eating birds or trophy fish potential - they rate the waterways.

Can you please explain how the presence of a few trophy sized fish or bald eagle or osprey is better evidence of overall waterway health than looking at the entire community? What you're arguing is the same as a doctor concluding that you are cancer free and at low risk of heart disease after only taking your temperature. It makes no sense

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Hermit were you around in the early 70s? Back in the day a man could smell Lake Ontario from a mile away. The dead mooneyes and rotting moss commonly lined the shore and extended out into the lake for 50 feet or more. I wonder what the EPA would have called the condition of the water then? A bald eagle could have been observed in a medium sized city zoo, or by going to Western Canada or Alaska. Why did bald eagles hold on in the Rocky Mtn States and Ak, and Northwestern Canada? DDT was present, penguins in Antarctica had a dose as DDT was distributed world wide by the atmosphere. This study divides the US into thirds. This EPA study claims only 17% of eastern highlands as good, and 16% of plains. 42% of the west makes the grade. This study came to an absurd conclusion. They did a biological census, and they did a damn poor job of it. This is a political attack more than a objective look at the condition of the biosphere. I don't know whether it is sample error or just out right fraud. I repeat, this study is aimed at an ignorant urban population, people who spend time in the field should know better.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Dcast, we have a moment of agreement. Big Aggie is a huge problem for watershed health.
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So what is to be done? Reduce production? Alter the basic fertilizer enrichment process?

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Bald eagles and osprey, as climax predators that exhibit a sensitivity to pollution and water clarity used to be labeled indicator species, in a biological integrity index sense. Today since they are thriving they no longer have that status as that would spoil the political attack from the EPA and other green organizations.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

"Was I around in the early 70's?" Nope, wasn't even born.

"Why did bald eagles hold on in the Rocky Mtn States and Ak, and Northwestern Canada?" Because they never sprayed DDT there as much as everywhere else!

"DDT was present, penguins in Antarctica had a dose as DDT was distributed world wide by the atmosphere."

Via global distillation, DDT and other Persistent Organic Pollutants accumulate in the poles. This is why we have PCB and Mercury issues more in the poles than near the equator.

"This study divides the US into thirds. This EPA study claims only 17% of eastern highlands as good, and 16% of plains. 42% of the west makes the grade. This study came to an absurd conclusion."

If you read through the rest of the report, you'll see it further broken down to much smaller, local areas. It breaks it down into the types of pollution seen in various areas. Given what they were trying to do, they did a pretty fair job I think.

"They did a biological census, and they did a damn poor job of it."

What was so poor about it?? They used the most appropriate methods possible, within their budget.

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from Dcast wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Hermit crab & Rock Rat, that isn't a cop out Big Ag is by far the largest polluter in the USA. Read this.

www.westernwatersheds.org/watmess/watmess_2002/2002html_summer/article6....

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

DCast, I'm in agreement with you 100%. When I said it's a cop out, I meant from a regulatory or enforcement standpoint it is more difficult to pinpoint who's to blame. It's easy to pinpoint the source of a pollutant when it comes out the end of a pipe. It's harder to find who dumped the phosphorus into a water body when it's running off the land when the whole watershed is full of corn fields.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

"Bald eagles and osprey, as climax predators that exhibit a sensitivity to pollution and water clarity used to be labeled indicator species, in a biological integrity index sense."

Are bald eagles or osprey sensitive to DDT? Yes

Are they sensitive to low levels of oxygen in the water? How about increased nutrient loads? What about metal levels that don't kill off their prey? What about to herbicides?

The fact is, they were particularly sensitive to DDT, but they're not that sensitive to the other major pollutants. Could you use them as a measurement of ecological health? Sure, but you could also use a deer who drinks the water. Ultimately, ALL birds are a poor choice of indicator species for watershed pollution, compared to benthic macroinverts and the overall assemblage of fish.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

Hermit I suspected that your ignorance was rooted in your youth. I suspect that biology professors that you might have had didn't even mention the role of an indicator species like the bald eagle because of its scarcity in the lower 48 for more than a half century. My father was born in 1920 and was a hunter, a trapper, and a fisherman. I asked him about bald eagles and he claimed that they were a uncommon bird. He further remarked that people would not even see one every year. No one noticed when they became extinct because of there rarity. Today that is not the case. I just returned from a 4 mile walk down the road by my farm during which I observed a pair of adult eagles copulating in a dead tree standing in a still frozen large beaver pond. Bald eagles, because of their nesting biology, their preponderance of aquatic food sources as their diet, particularly during the nestling phase, and there size and distinctiveness make them a quick and easy indicator of watershed quality. Increasing populations of bald eagles and osprey indicate a healthy watershed, decreasing populations the reverse. If a more in depth sampling indicates that the relationship isn't holding than you might want to check your sampling methodology.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

What am I being ignorant about? The correct method was used. The study was appropriate. The findings are only absurd and incorrect if you cherry pick the results you want and ignore most of it, which is exactly what you're doing. That's not how real science is done. It's not what they did in this study.

Let me remind you that you've never answered any of my legitimate questions.

Pardon my "youthful ignorance", but it seems as if you're a biologist, you've got no experience with anything other than bald eagles and osprey. The quote "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" seems to fit your mentality.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

From his replies, I don't have the sense that he is or ever was a "wildlife biologist." But I could be wrong. Hey labrodor, what's your real name, what was your degree, and for whom were you a professional biologist?
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You keep playing that "I know more than you because I am a PROFESSIONAL card." Back that hand, labbie, or stow it.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

Well little Mikey, do you see evidence that 55% of the US has "poor conditions for aquatic life". Remember, peregrines are native and pigeons are not.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

Your reply is about what I expected. You didn't answer the question and you did make an azz of yourself.
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No, you're not a wildlife biologist, never were one. Yer a tv cowboy with no hat.

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from Hoski wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

Sorry to say, from past experience lab is a one trick pony. Birds, birds, birds, seems like that's his only measuring stick.
Another flat earther.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 56 min ago

Interesting. When checking the EPA site their assessment includes birds in the list of biological indicators, who knew eh hermit? Just because a bird like the osprey has a diet that is composed of up to 99% fish is no reason to consider them part a aquatic habitat eh Mikey? I post about birds in the environment because that is my area of expertise. Osprey are native to North America as are peregrines, in case some readers might be ignorant of which species are or are not native.

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from hermit crab wrote 10 weeks 6 days ago

What exactly did you do as a wildlife biologist?

I've used birds as indicator species multiple times in various ecological assessments before, but they're not appropriate for this kind of task. The word "bird" is mentioned exactly two times in the 140 page document this blog post was written about. Neither "eagle", "peregrine" nor "osprey" were mentioned once.

Here's a few quotes from EPA's Monitoring and Assessment website on using Birds as indicator species:

"The effects of [nutrient] enrichment on overall community structure of birds are poorly documented in wetlands, and indicator assemblages of "most sensitive species" remain mostly speculative for this stressor."

"...the effects of pesticides, heavy metals, and other contaminants on overall structure of wetland bird communities are poorly documented in wetlands, and indicator assemblages of "most sensitive species" remain mostly speculative for these stressors"

"Wetland bird species that prefer soft-bottomed wetlands can be defined, but probably with insufficient precision to warrant their use as indicators of excessive sedimentation."

Let me dumb that down for you Labbie: Birds MAY be used, but they are a poor indicator of nutrient enrichment, pesticides, heavy metals, other contaminants, and sedimentation.

I guess the joke's on me. You know what they say about arguing with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with their 30 years worth of armchair biologist experience.

Seeing as how this can o' worms is mostly empty now, let me throw another log onto the fire:

Saying water quality is good because bald eagles are present is about as appropriate as saying wolves are bad for the environment because they decrease elk populations.

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 6 days ago

Saying water quality is poor when increasing populations of osprey and bald eagle populations are present is about as appropriate as saying wolves are bad for the environment because they decrease elk populations.

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from Bob81 wrote 10 weeks 6 days ago

Lab,
I don't even work in the sciences, and it is sooo obvious you are being willfully ignorant here. Your insistence that bald eagle populations can be used as a proxy for anything and everything environmental is such obvious nonsense. The fact that you are also unwilling to challenge the data with reason or relevant facts (like a real scientist!) instead of trotting out the same talking point shows you have nothing to back it up.

What is your agenda?

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from Mike Diehl wrote 10 weeks 6 days ago

Labradoodle: Until you back that card you played about being a professional biologist, by stating your name, your degree, and whom your employer was, you have nothing. You don't even have at this point the leeway of presumptive reasonable knowledge.

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from dave63go wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

And do we think that the EPA is not a "green" group? And do we think they do not have a political agenda? Don't be silly. Field & Stream, do tell: you seem not to like drilling for oil, given the impact that has on hunting land, and fishing water. And based on a March 13 article, "Biofuel Growth is Decimating Wildlife Habitat in Corn Belt", not a big fan of alternate energy sources either. Now, Big Ag is once again painted as Evil in this article.

Ironic, since I suspect a significant percentage of the Field & Stream readership consumes an above-average share of fossil fuels, given ownership of sport utility vehicles (see F&S's review of the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee on 3/25) and boats. (This comment box in which I'm typing is immediately below an ad for Toyota Tundra, so I suspect the auto manufacturers have figured that out too).

Please, if you'd like to continue to opine on environmental issues this way, be consistent, and start sharing articles on riding bikes to work, and how to grow gardens. To not do that is to join the loathesome ranks of our politicians (on both sides), who ignore the difficult choices needing to be made.

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from Hoski wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

No dave63go,
Our EPA is not a "green group".
The EPA was started by a Republican administration in response to our rivers catching fire, back when Republicans believed in science.
To believe the EPA is akin to some outlier fringe group is being naive.
Contrary to popular belief, the EPA is not a weapon used by Presidential administrations.

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

Hoski, you forgot to mention that our President wants to strengthen the 2nd Amendment as he lowers the sea level and heals the planet.

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

ditto that labrador

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from allegnmtn wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

It proves the proverb is right: Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you'll sure as heck kill him from cancer.

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from RealGoodMan wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

And therein lies the problem, as illustrated by lab's Obama/2a comment. When backed into a corner with little left to say with any sort of merit, your true colors
show.

Some people just can't separate conservation issues from party politics. This article has nothing to do with the President or the 2nd Amendment. It couldn't be more obvious that your repeated dismissals of environmental concerns are politically-motivated and based on partisanship, not science or reality.

Any genuine concern you have for our natural resources takes a back seat to your political convictions. And if you feel threatened or you see an opportunity to advance your political agenda, you share your misleading and worthless insight, like many others do on this blog.

In your very narrow mind, an attack on the EPA is an attack against the Democratic Party. Environmental advocacy and the protection of our natural resources empowers liberals. Denying and stonewalling science advances the GOP. No matter what the issue is; it's deeply rooted in partisanship. Pick your issue: fossil fuel subsidies, energy development, emission standards, privatization of public resources, renewable energy, climate change, Clean Water Act and so on. We already know where you stand and why. You live in a sad world.

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from hermit crab wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

"Field & Stream, do tell: you seem not to like drilling for oil, given the impact that has on hunting land, and fishing water."

Field and Stream is dedicated to hunting, fishing, and the outdoors. If you think natural resource extraction doesn't impact our hunting, fishing, and outdoor recreation, I'd invite you to come to my most cherished hunting location in southeastern Ohio. The exact location where I shot my first deer from a treestand is gone. My dad watched me shoot it with a bow from another tree about 70 yards away. Imagine our surprise when two seasons later, we showed up on a dark morning in early November and the entire hill was literally gone. The entire hill has been removed and quarried out for coal and will never be the same.

The Deepwater horizon oil spill most assuredly affected fishing in the Gulf. Countless prairie potholes marshes and CRP land have recently been plowed under to grow more crops, and that has reduced the habitat for ducks. Natural gas extraction is negatively affecting mule deer populations and habitat in the West.

Field and Stream most certainly has an agenda, and it is similar to those of Ducks Unlimited, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, and Trout Unlimited. F&S is not an oil and gas company, a firearms manufacturer, nor is job creation its focus. It's dedicated to preserving our outdoors heritage. As such, issues affecting outdoors recreation are important and SHOULD be an important focus of the magazine. Oftentimes that butts heads with economic development. You can't always have both.

If the game populations dwindle due to habitat loss, hunters and fishermen and women will find other forms of recreation. As soon as that happens, groups like PETA will achieve their goal of outlawing the "blood sports".

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

I doubt that any 50 year period of Field and Streams existence has seen the increase in the quality of the environment in North America as the last 50 years. Increases in the population and distribution of whitetail deer, wild turkeys, Canadian geese, pacific salmon and steelhead transplants to the east, to name a few of our successes, have been successful in making the outdoor experience of today richer and more rewarding than that of the middle of the last century. The reforestation of the east, the increase in water clarity, and a new appreciation of the outdoors has lead to a new outdoor ethic more widely shared than ever. Hawks and eagles aren't routinely shot as competitors and pests. Oil spills are news instead of routine facts of life. I think that it would be appropriate for F&S to report on the recovery of some of the ecosystems that we have seen. I look at the readers photos and can't help thinking that there is good news on the environmental front as well as possible battles to be fought.

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from Hoski wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

Amen RealGoodMan, very well said.

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from Hoski wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

labrador12,
How many Eagles and Ospreys were in the area when the Cuyahoga river caught fire spurring the creation of our EPA?
You're a one trick pony, go count some birds.

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

I would say zero, as at that time eagles and osprey populations were near extinction east of the Mississippi River and south of the Canadian Border. That was my freshman year at Oberlin College in Ohio. I didn't see any along the Black River while I attended school. The Cuyahoga River has them today though. Driving between Syracuse NY using the interstate highways, multiple osprey nests are visible and individual osprey and eagle sightings are common today.

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

"Driving between Syracuse NY and Oberlin using the interstate highways" excuse the typo.

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from Hoski wrote 10 weeks 3 days ago

labrador12
Perfect scientific analogy...No birds of prey sighted so therefore environment is polluted.
You must have aced biology.

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from wisc14 wrote 10 weeks 3 days ago

there is no way labrador is a biologist.

+1 to realgoodman. the fact of the matter is that many people have been brainwashed by party politics

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from bill4432 wrote 10 weeks 3 days ago

Our streams and rivers are a national disgrace.

God help you if you eat anything out of the Potomac around D.C. that isn't just a sea-run fish (rockfish, white perch, or herring.) But the Potomac's population of herring have dwindled to such small numbers that it's now illegal to possess one. This is not the result of recreational fishing. Its from almost unregulated offshore "midwater trawlers,"huge boats, often working in tandem to pull a net so large it can wipe out an entire river's population in a single pass.

The commercial guys aren't regulated, though. It's just us recreational anglers. We don't organize, publicize or contribute dollars in any way close to what commercial interests do.

Big Ag is going strong, and we're all footing the bill through taxes we pay but aren't aware of. Here's a U.S. News & World Report excerpt on it:

"Under current law, businesses that produce commodity crops—corn, soy, cotton, or wheat for example—receive a variety of federal supports. One of these, direct payments, provides a per-acreage subsidy for certain farmland owners, regardless of prices, crop yield, or profitability. As a result some farm businesses making hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars each year also receive a generous annual check from the federal government even if they don't grow a crop.

"But as appalling as direct payments are, they are not the most egregious or expensive subsidy for agribusiness. No, that honor belongs to the federal crop insurance program. This friendly sounding program provides generous federal subsidies (on average 62 percent) to encourage farm businesses to purchase federal crop insurance policies. Unlike the insurance policies most people or other businesses are familiar with, crop insurance actually insures not just crops, but the expected revenue from selling those crops. So an agricultural business could have a great harvest but still get an insurance payment if they can't sell it for as much as they locked in under the policy. It's as if your homeowners insurance didn't promise to pay you if your house burned down, but guaranteed you a profit when you decide to sell, even if you bought it at the peak of the bubble."

It's nice to see bald eagles back. Don't kid yourself, though. Our waters are getting worse, not better.

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from jay wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Agriculture is the biggest by far contributer to polution in our waterways. Industry is not even close.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

"I can't believe that you guys can fall for it." Fall for what, exactly? Using current state-of-the-science methods, they basically did a biological census. The EPA's study is based on the overall health of the entire aquatic community - NOT the health of a few choice fish species and CERTAINLY NOT bird populations. Based on your statements, you appear to be as adept at being a field biologist as I am at knitting. If you actually looked at the study, you'd realize that their ratings are "based on a robust, commonly used index that combines different measures of the condition of aquatic benthic macroinvertebrates."

It is far and away the most common method used to determine whether a stream is impacted. You look at the number of species present - the more diversity (i.e. more species present), the better the water quality. If there's not enough oxygen in the water, oxygen-sensitive species will be absent. If there's too much metal contamination, metal-sensitive species will be absent. Based on those measurements - which have absolutely nothing to do with fish eating birds or trophy fish potential - they rate the waterways.

Can you please explain how the presence of a few trophy sized fish or bald eagle or osprey is better evidence of overall waterway health than looking at the entire community? What you're arguing is the same as a doctor concluding that you are cancer free and at low risk of heart disease after only taking your temperature. It makes no sense

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

"Bald eagles and osprey, as climax predators that exhibit a sensitivity to pollution and water clarity used to be labeled indicator species, in a biological integrity index sense."

Are bald eagles or osprey sensitive to DDT? Yes

Are they sensitive to low levels of oxygen in the water? How about increased nutrient loads? What about metal levels that don't kill off their prey? What about to herbicides?

The fact is, they were particularly sensitive to DDT, but they're not that sensitive to the other major pollutants. Could you use them as a measurement of ecological health? Sure, but you could also use a deer who drinks the water. Ultimately, ALL birds are a poor choice of indicator species for watershed pollution, compared to benthic macroinverts and the overall assemblage of fish.

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from RealGoodMan wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

And therein lies the problem, as illustrated by lab's Obama/2a comment. When backed into a corner with little left to say with any sort of merit, your true colors
show.

Some people just can't separate conservation issues from party politics. This article has nothing to do with the President or the 2nd Amendment. It couldn't be more obvious that your repeated dismissals of environmental concerns are politically-motivated and based on partisanship, not science or reality.

Any genuine concern you have for our natural resources takes a back seat to your political convictions. And if you feel threatened or you see an opportunity to advance your political agenda, you share your misleading and worthless insight, like many others do on this blog.

In your very narrow mind, an attack on the EPA is an attack against the Democratic Party. Environmental advocacy and the protection of our natural resources empowers liberals. Denying and stonewalling science advances the GOP. No matter what the issue is; it's deeply rooted in partisanship. Pick your issue: fossil fuel subsidies, energy development, emission standards, privatization of public resources, renewable energy, climate change, Clean Water Act and so on. We already know where you stand and why. You live in a sad world.

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from Hoski wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Ah yes, the old "Eagles and Ospreys are around so everything is okie dokie" measuring stick.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

What am I being ignorant about? The correct method was used. The study was appropriate. The findings are only absurd and incorrect if you cherry pick the results you want and ignore most of it, which is exactly what you're doing. That's not how real science is done. It's not what they did in this study.

Let me remind you that you've never answered any of my legitimate questions.

Pardon my "youthful ignorance", but it seems as if you're a biologist, you've got no experience with anything other than bald eagles and osprey. The quote "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" seems to fit your mentality.

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from bill4432 wrote 10 weeks 3 days ago

Our streams and rivers are a national disgrace.

God help you if you eat anything out of the Potomac around D.C. that isn't just a sea-run fish (rockfish, white perch, or herring.) But the Potomac's population of herring have dwindled to such small numbers that it's now illegal to possess one. This is not the result of recreational fishing. Its from almost unregulated offshore "midwater trawlers,"huge boats, often working in tandem to pull a net so large it can wipe out an entire river's population in a single pass.

The commercial guys aren't regulated, though. It's just us recreational anglers. We don't organize, publicize or contribute dollars in any way close to what commercial interests do.

Big Ag is going strong, and we're all footing the bill through taxes we pay but aren't aware of. Here's a U.S. News & World Report excerpt on it:

"Under current law, businesses that produce commodity crops—corn, soy, cotton, or wheat for example—receive a variety of federal supports. One of these, direct payments, provides a per-acreage subsidy for certain farmland owners, regardless of prices, crop yield, or profitability. As a result some farm businesses making hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars each year also receive a generous annual check from the federal government even if they don't grow a crop.

"But as appalling as direct payments are, they are not the most egregious or expensive subsidy for agribusiness. No, that honor belongs to the federal crop insurance program. This friendly sounding program provides generous federal subsidies (on average 62 percent) to encourage farm businesses to purchase federal crop insurance policies. Unlike the insurance policies most people or other businesses are familiar with, crop insurance actually insures not just crops, but the expected revenue from selling those crops. So an agricultural business could have a great harvest but still get an insurance payment if they can't sell it for as much as they locked in under the policy. It's as if your homeowners insurance didn't promise to pay you if your house burned down, but guaranteed you a profit when you decide to sell, even if you bought it at the peak of the bubble."

It's nice to see bald eagles back. Don't kid yourself, though. Our waters are getting worse, not better.

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from Douglas wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

All I see is more and more bubbly green algae in what used to be clear water streams, springs, and lakes. Miles from ag runoff and other sources of nutrient pollution. Where on earth is that coming from? The air?
This is in country north of the Adirondack park.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Lab, Did you even bother to read the report? I don't see how a real biologist with any freshwater biology training could come to your conclusion. Have you ever driven through the midwest? Every decent sized river and lake I can think of within a 50 mile radius of me is heavily impacted by cultural eutrophication. Also, “poor conditions for aquatic life” does not mean nothing will survive in it, it merely means that the species present are more tolerant, and intolerant species are likely not existent.

Also, though I've not got much experience with osprey, the presence of bald eagles is not necessarily indicative of much regarding water quality. Most of the eagles near me prey almost exclusively on non-native carp, which can exist in some of the most heavily polluted waters out there.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

What is a better indicator of the health of a waterway - an organism who does not live in the water but who gets a portion of its diet from fish or looking at the actual inhabitants that live within that water?

HINT: Bald eagles regularly nest near Grand Lake St. Mary's in western Ohio. If that's not an example of poor water quality, I don't know what is.

Again, have you ever heard of an index of biological index?

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from rock rat wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

My boogie man is housing developments. At least big Agriculture feeds us. We have very few creeks and streams, all the runoff from out sprawling housing developments goes into our waterways. There's that "nitrogen and phosphorus" running off irrigated lawns that by statute homeowners are required to have. "Bacteria" is from all the dog poop on those lawns. Not much runs off from agriculture here, they waste no water.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

"Was I around in the early 70's?" Nope, wasn't even born.

"Why did bald eagles hold on in the Rocky Mtn States and Ak, and Northwestern Canada?" Because they never sprayed DDT there as much as everywhere else!

"DDT was present, penguins in Antarctica had a dose as DDT was distributed world wide by the atmosphere."

Via global distillation, DDT and other Persistent Organic Pollutants accumulate in the poles. This is why we have PCB and Mercury issues more in the poles than near the equator.

"This study divides the US into thirds. This EPA study claims only 17% of eastern highlands as good, and 16% of plains. 42% of the west makes the grade. This study came to an absurd conclusion."

If you read through the rest of the report, you'll see it further broken down to much smaller, local areas. It breaks it down into the types of pollution seen in various areas. Given what they were trying to do, they did a pretty fair job I think.

"They did a biological census, and they did a damn poor job of it."

What was so poor about it?? They used the most appropriate methods possible, within their budget.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

DCast, I'm in agreement with you 100%. When I said it's a cop out, I meant from a regulatory or enforcement standpoint it is more difficult to pinpoint who's to blame. It's easy to pinpoint the source of a pollutant when it comes out the end of a pipe. It's harder to find who dumped the phosphorus into a water body when it's running off the land when the whole watershed is full of corn fields.

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from Mike Diehl wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

Your reply is about what I expected. You didn't answer the question and you did make an azz of yourself.
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No, you're not a wildlife biologist, never were one. Yer a tv cowboy with no hat.

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from Bob81 wrote 10 weeks 6 days ago

Lab,
I don't even work in the sciences, and it is sooo obvious you are being willfully ignorant here. Your insistence that bald eagle populations can be used as a proxy for anything and everything environmental is such obvious nonsense. The fact that you are also unwilling to challenge the data with reason or relevant facts (like a real scientist!) instead of trotting out the same talking point shows you have nothing to back it up.

What is your agenda?

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from Mike Diehl wrote 10 weeks 6 days ago

Labradoodle: Until you back that card you played about being a professional biologist, by stating your name, your degree, and whom your employer was, you have nothing. You don't even have at this point the leeway of presumptive reasonable knowledge.

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from Hoski wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

No dave63go,
Our EPA is not a "green group".
The EPA was started by a Republican administration in response to our rivers catching fire, back when Republicans believed in science.
To believe the EPA is akin to some outlier fringe group is being naive.
Contrary to popular belief, the EPA is not a weapon used by Presidential administrations.

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from hermit crab wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

"Field & Stream, do tell: you seem not to like drilling for oil, given the impact that has on hunting land, and fishing water."

Field and Stream is dedicated to hunting, fishing, and the outdoors. If you think natural resource extraction doesn't impact our hunting, fishing, and outdoor recreation, I'd invite you to come to my most cherished hunting location in southeastern Ohio. The exact location where I shot my first deer from a treestand is gone. My dad watched me shoot it with a bow from another tree about 70 yards away. Imagine our surprise when two seasons later, we showed up on a dark morning in early November and the entire hill was literally gone. The entire hill has been removed and quarried out for coal and will never be the same.

The Deepwater horizon oil spill most assuredly affected fishing in the Gulf. Countless prairie potholes marshes and CRP land have recently been plowed under to grow more crops, and that has reduced the habitat for ducks. Natural gas extraction is negatively affecting mule deer populations and habitat in the West.

Field and Stream most certainly has an agenda, and it is similar to those of Ducks Unlimited, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, and Trout Unlimited. F&S is not an oil and gas company, a firearms manufacturer, nor is job creation its focus. It's dedicated to preserving our outdoors heritage. As such, issues affecting outdoors recreation are important and SHOULD be an important focus of the magazine. Oftentimes that butts heads with economic development. You can't always have both.

If the game populations dwindle due to habitat loss, hunters and fishermen and women will find other forms of recreation. As soon as that happens, groups like PETA will achieve their goal of outlawing the "blood sports".

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from Dcast wrote 11 weeks 3 days ago

The clean water act hasn't gone anywhere it is alive and doing well. For those who do not live in a bunker under constant threat of the destruction of man by evil apparently everything, lets discuss this without the fear mongering. EPA still enforces strict ground water, industrial runoff, construction runoff, storm water runooff, etc... rules but the only one they don't have much to say about is the farming industry. As another precaution cities have implemented their own storm water ordinances to help protect stream sedimentation. I deal with the EPA almost everyday in my job. The cities are getting to be eviromental nazi's I'm sure you'd be proud of. I'm trying to put in a less than a acre parking lot within the City of Springfield Ohio, and you would think we were trying to construct a nuclear power plant, and many cities are getting to be this way. Regulations and requirements that are nearly impossible to meet financially and physically.

You can thank "BIG AG" for most all polution. Both democrats and republicans won't take this fight up because of the romance associated with farming. This maybe the one and only thing bipartisan in congress.

I would also like to say it isn't safe to assume the ground water has "worsened", it's the same or better for most parts of the USA. Also the EPA is a "green group"!

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

"The recovery of the bald eagle is due to the recovery of the rivers, streams and lakes of North America."

The overwhelming reason bald eagles in the lower 48 were endangered is due to DDT - that's it. You're basing your entire claim about waterways being fine, due to one chemical? Also, Carp aren't high in PCBs or Mercury due to their low trophic level. In regards to bald eagles, the invasive Carp has been great for them.

Being a "field biologist", surely you've heard of an index of biological integrity?

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from Mike Diehl wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Dcast, we have a moment of agreement. Big Aggie is a huge problem for watershed health.
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So what is to be done? Reduce production? Alter the basic fertilizer enrichment process?

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from Dcast wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Hermit crab & Rock Rat, that isn't a cop out Big Ag is by far the largest polluter in the USA. Read this.

www.westernwatersheds.org/watmess/watmess_2002/2002html_summer/article6....

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from Mike Diehl wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

From his replies, I don't have the sense that he is or ever was a "wildlife biologist." But I could be wrong. Hey labrodor, what's your real name, what was your degree, and for whom were you a professional biologist?
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You keep playing that "I know more than you because I am a PROFESSIONAL card." Back that hand, labbie, or stow it.

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from hermit crab wrote 10 weeks 6 days ago

What exactly did you do as a wildlife biologist?

I've used birds as indicator species multiple times in various ecological assessments before, but they're not appropriate for this kind of task. The word "bird" is mentioned exactly two times in the 140 page document this blog post was written about. Neither "eagle", "peregrine" nor "osprey" were mentioned once.

Here's a few quotes from EPA's Monitoring and Assessment website on using Birds as indicator species:

"The effects of [nutrient] enrichment on overall community structure of birds are poorly documented in wetlands, and indicator assemblages of "most sensitive species" remain mostly speculative for this stressor."

"...the effects of pesticides, heavy metals, and other contaminants on overall structure of wetland bird communities are poorly documented in wetlands, and indicator assemblages of "most sensitive species" remain mostly speculative for these stressors"

"Wetland bird species that prefer soft-bottomed wetlands can be defined, but probably with insufficient precision to warrant their use as indicators of excessive sedimentation."

Let me dumb that down for you Labbie: Birds MAY be used, but they are a poor indicator of nutrient enrichment, pesticides, heavy metals, other contaminants, and sedimentation.

I guess the joke's on me. You know what they say about arguing with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with their 30 years worth of armchair biologist experience.

Seeing as how this can o' worms is mostly empty now, let me throw another log onto the fire:

Saying water quality is good because bald eagles are present is about as appropriate as saying wolves are bad for the environment because they decrease elk populations.

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from Hoski wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

Amen RealGoodMan, very well said.

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from Hoski wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

labrador12,
How many Eagles and Ospreys were in the area when the Cuyahoga river caught fire spurring the creation of our EPA?
You're a one trick pony, go count some birds.

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from Hoski wrote 10 weeks 3 days ago

labrador12
Perfect scientific analogy...No birds of prey sighted so therefore environment is polluted.
You must have aced biology.

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from wisc14 wrote 10 weeks 3 days ago

there is no way labrador is a biologist.

+1 to realgoodman. the fact of the matter is that many people have been brainwashed by party politics

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from Steward wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Forgive me, but the first thing I want to know is, "Have the standards changed?" I mean, this is the EPA that wanted to redefine ditches and navigable waterways (if I remember the news reports correctly...feel free to shoot me down).

I agree with keeping toxins out of our rivers and streams as much as possible...I do question some of the mechanisms in place.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Dcast - I agree with you 100% about agriculture. It is harder to pinpoint problems due to the relatively non-point source nature of agriculture, but realistically that's a cop out. Grand Lake St. Mary's in your neck of the woods is certainly a prime example of it.

Jay - with a few important local exceptions, nation-wide, you're right on the money.

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from Hoski wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Here's one of the times I agree with Dcast. Big AG seems to be a darling on the hill.

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from Hoski wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

Sorry to say, from past experience lab is a one trick pony. Birds, birds, birds, seems like that's his only measuring stick.
Another flat earther.

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from hermit crab wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

That should've read "Index of biological integrity" instead of "index of biological index"

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from dave63go wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

And do we think that the EPA is not a "green" group? And do we think they do not have a political agenda? Don't be silly. Field & Stream, do tell: you seem not to like drilling for oil, given the impact that has on hunting land, and fishing water. And based on a March 13 article, "Biofuel Growth is Decimating Wildlife Habitat in Corn Belt", not a big fan of alternate energy sources either. Now, Big Ag is once again painted as Evil in this article.

Ironic, since I suspect a significant percentage of the Field & Stream readership consumes an above-average share of fossil fuels, given ownership of sport utility vehicles (see F&S's review of the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee on 3/25) and boats. (This comment box in which I'm typing is immediately below an ad for Toyota Tundra, so I suspect the auto manufacturers have figured that out too).

Please, if you'd like to continue to opine on environmental issues this way, be consistent, and start sharing articles on riding bikes to work, and how to grow gardens. To not do that is to join the loathesome ranks of our politicians (on both sides), who ignore the difficult choices needing to be made.

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from allegnmtn wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

It proves the proverb is right: Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and you'll sure as heck kill him from cancer.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

As a former field biologist that travels from NY to Ak on a fairly regular basis by road, 24 trips since 1970, I doubt this data. There is no way on God's green earth that that % of our waterways could be that polluted and maintain the bald eagle and osprey population that we currently have. No way. The EPA is fabricating evidence for political reasons. Anyone with the ability to reason and observe can refute this data. Field and Stream should be on the side of objective reality not in the pocket of big government and the hugely profitable special interests in the green movement.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

55%" poor conditions for aquatic life". Bald eagles and ospreys are sight hunters which prey almost exclusively on Aquatic life during the breeding season. The bald eagle population has increased from extinct or damn near so east of the Mississippi River and south of the Canadian Border to being removed from the endangered species list. In NY State in 2006 60 pairs fledged 3 yng each which is a amazing statistic for any area of North America much less a state with "poor conditions for aquatic life". These populations are growing. Growing populations are not suffering from poor conditions. The study has some massive problems. I agree that carp are a part of the diet, but they can't be loaded up with pcbs and other chemicals because bald eagles have been shown to not be tolerant. The recovery of the bald eagle is due to the recovery of the rivers, streams and lakes of North America. The study doesn't name just one area it makes widespread claims.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

DDT was one of many chemicals that was responsible for the loss of bald eagles, osprey and peregrines. Water clarity is another huge and I believe underappreciated factor. Bald eagles haven't been this plentiful in much of the country since the early 1800s. The increase in water clarity since the passage of the clean water act in the 70s is remarkable. In Alberta the primary food fish for Bald eagles during the nesting season in the Oil Sands area during the mid 1970s was northern pike.

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from coachsjike wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

our economy sucks, can't find ammo anymore, and now more than half of our streams, rivers, and lakes are major trouble...wtf is next? alcohol will be banned in all 50 states bringing back prohibition and moonshine.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

So the reader photos which show fish are fake? The articles in the mag and website which talk about fishing around the country are fake? Is Lake Erie dead? The study doesn't say that conditions for trophy fish are not ideal in 55% of the streams and rivers in the country. The study claims that conditions for aquatic life are poor for 55% of streams and rivers. Government experts warn you about the dangers of weapons of war on our streets too. This study is aimed at the people who think food comes from grocery stores. I can't believe that you guys can fall for it.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Hermit were you around in the early 70s? Back in the day a man could smell Lake Ontario from a mile away. The dead mooneyes and rotting moss commonly lined the shore and extended out into the lake for 50 feet or more. I wonder what the EPA would have called the condition of the water then? A bald eagle could have been observed in a medium sized city zoo, or by going to Western Canada or Alaska. Why did bald eagles hold on in the Rocky Mtn States and Ak, and Northwestern Canada? DDT was present, penguins in Antarctica had a dose as DDT was distributed world wide by the atmosphere. This study divides the US into thirds. This EPA study claims only 17% of eastern highlands as good, and 16% of plains. 42% of the west makes the grade. This study came to an absurd conclusion. They did a biological census, and they did a damn poor job of it. This is a political attack more than a objective look at the condition of the biosphere. I don't know whether it is sample error or just out right fraud. I repeat, this study is aimed at an ignorant urban population, people who spend time in the field should know better.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 56 min ago

Interesting. When checking the EPA site their assessment includes birds in the list of biological indicators, who knew eh hermit? Just because a bird like the osprey has a diet that is composed of up to 99% fish is no reason to consider them part a aquatic habitat eh Mikey? I post about birds in the environment because that is my area of expertise. Osprey are native to North America as are peregrines, in case some readers might be ignorant of which species are or are not native.

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 6 days ago

Saying water quality is poor when increasing populations of osprey and bald eagle populations are present is about as appropriate as saying wolves are bad for the environment because they decrease elk populations.

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

I doubt that any 50 year period of Field and Streams existence has seen the increase in the quality of the environment in North America as the last 50 years. Increases in the population and distribution of whitetail deer, wild turkeys, Canadian geese, pacific salmon and steelhead transplants to the east, to name a few of our successes, have been successful in making the outdoor experience of today richer and more rewarding than that of the middle of the last century. The reforestation of the east, the increase in water clarity, and a new appreciation of the outdoors has lead to a new outdoor ethic more widely shared than ever. Hawks and eagles aren't routinely shot as competitors and pests. Oil spills are news instead of routine facts of life. I think that it would be appropriate for F&S to report on the recovery of some of the ecosystems that we have seen. I look at the readers photos and can't help thinking that there is good news on the environmental front as well as possible battles to be fought.

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

I would say zero, as at that time eagles and osprey populations were near extinction east of the Mississippi River and south of the Canadian Border. That was my freshman year at Oberlin College in Ohio. I didn't see any along the Black River while I attended school. The Cuyahoga River has them today though. Driving between Syracuse NY using the interstate highways, multiple osprey nests are visible and individual osprey and eagle sightings are common today.

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 4 days ago

"Driving between Syracuse NY and Oberlin using the interstate highways" excuse the typo.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

The presence or lack of a climax predator in a watershed is a good quick indicator of the health of a watershed. Increasing populations of bald eagles and osprey would indicate a system with much better than "poor conditions for aquatic life". Bald eagles and osprey are extremely mobile. If the conditions of a given area were to worsen they would move. Driving through NY, Pa, Ohio, Indiana, Ill., Wi., Mn., N Dakota, and then through Canada to Prince Rupert in BC gives a transect through the bulk of North America. If the birds are there a person trained in aerial surveying will spot them or their nests. 55% of aquatic habitat is not poor.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

Well little Mikey, do you see evidence that 55% of the US has "poor conditions for aquatic life". Remember, peregrines are native and pigeons are not.

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from labrador12 wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

Hoski, you forgot to mention that our President wants to strengthen the 2nd Amendment as he lowers the sea level and heals the planet.

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from scratchgolf72 wrote 10 weeks 5 days ago

ditto that labrador

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 2 days ago

Bald eagles and osprey, as climax predators that exhibit a sensitivity to pollution and water clarity used to be labeled indicator species, in a biological integrity index sense. Today since they are thriving they no longer have that status as that would spoil the political attack from the EPA and other green organizations.

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from labrador12 wrote 11 weeks 1 day ago

Hermit I suspected that your ignorance was rooted in your youth. I suspect that biology professors that you might have had didn't even mention the role of an indicator species like the bald eagle because of its scarcity in the lower 48 for more than a half century. My father was born in 1920 and was a hunter, a trapper, and a fisherman. I asked him about bald eagles and he claimed that they were a uncommon bird. He further remarked that people would not even see one every year. No one noticed when they became extinct because of there rarity. Today that is not the case. I just returned from a 4 mile walk down the road by my farm during which I observed a pair of adult eagles copulating in a dead tree standing in a still frozen large beaver pond. Bald eagles, because of their nesting biology, their preponderance of aquatic food sources as their diet, particularly during the nestling phase, and there size and distinctiveness make them a quick and easy indicator of watershed quality. Increasing populations of bald eagles and osprey indicate a healthy watershed, decreasing populations the reverse. If a more in depth sampling indicates that the relationship isn't holding than you might want to check your sampling methodology.

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