


February 24, 2012
Wealthy FL Businessman Gets Off Easy in Montana Poaching Case
--Chad Love
You may recall a Field Notes blog a year or so ago about a wealthy and politically-connected south Florida businessman charged with a multitude of big-game violations allegedly committed on his private Montana ranch.
The case, which garnered quite a bit of publicity, has finally come to its conclusion with a plea bargain deal.
From this story in the Orlando Sentinel:
Mark Morse, president and chief operating officer of the mammoth Villages retirement community northwest of Orlando, has been fined a total of $4,500 but avoided prison time in a highly publicized Montana poaching case, court officials said Wednesday. Morse, 51, pleaded guilty to hunting without a license, according to the Montana Attorney General's office.
Under plea agreements, state prosecutors dropped four felony charges against him for illegal possession of a game animal, each of which could have carried a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $50,000 fine. A second misdemeanor charge of hunting without a license was dropped, too. The head of the retiree haven, population 85,000, appeared Tuesday in Yellowstone and Big Horn counties to deal with charges filed in November 2010. At the time, a Montana Fish Wildlife & Parks spokesman said Morse was accused of "shooting some really nice, big trophy animals."
The Yellowstone County plea bargain calls for Morse to pay a fine and restitution totaling $2,000 for hunting elk without a license in 2007, court officials said today. The Big Horn County agreement requires him to pay about $2,500 for hunting three buck mule deer in 2008 without a license, Clerk of Court Karen Yarlott-Molina said. The grandson of The Villages founder risked losing his privilege to fish, hunt and trap in Big Sky Country. "He'll keep his fishing and hunting license," said John Doran, a communications officer with the Montana Attorney General's office. Morse was among eight people — including his daughter and wife — who faced charges after a wildlife investigation into big-game hunting violations. The allegations involved Morse family members, business partners and employees.
So here's the obvious question? Did the punishment fit the crime? Or do you think the defendant's wealth and status may have played a part in receiving punishment that, at least on the surface, seems a lot less severe than what this guy got in a similar Montana poaching case a few weeks back?
Your thoughts?
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Enough money can get you out of very serious crimes. Just ask OJ Simpson!!!
Absolutely not. A monetary punishment must exceed the cost of proper licenses and permits. Based on current non-resident license and tag fees for a limited entry unit this fine is a joke. Cheaper to take your chances getting caught if Montana is just going to slap the wrist of poachers.
It comes down to this: why were the charges dropped?
If the investigation was faulty, etc., than that is fine. If there is no reason to drop the charges other than the defendant was wealthy and politically connected, then I say this was wrong and the prosecutors should fired or brought up on whatever possible legal charges themselves.
The whole point of our country's Declaration of Independence and Constitution is equality under the law, no matter if you're net worth is in the millions or is a negative number.
Don't response to this comment and say, "That's the way it is." That's the way it shouldn't be! The man didn't have to face the maximum sentence for the charges. I don't care if it wasn't the maximum sentence. The charges should not be dropped unless there was a legitimate legal reason. A plea deal seems to me to be a ridiculous insult to justice!
Jay, if it were you or I that got caught I doubt they would make a deal with us. More info is needed to really evaluate this.
He's a big-shot out-of-state Republican living in Montana. What did you expect? Certainly didn't expect that he would lose his hunting priviledges in several states, including Florida, for decades. Not like the other guy from Illinois (who was probably a "liberal"). Reminds me of how Cheney thwarted investigation and prosecution for reckless endangerment when he was drunk and shot his hunting partner. This crap makes me ill. I am not a law-breaker but I swear if I lived anywhere in the vincinity of that douche bag's two so-called ranches, I would certainly turn a blind eye to any vandalism headed his way. I suspect his fencing bill is about to go through the roof. Families like that need to be tarred and feathered and sent out of that state on a rail. Yes, it was his whole family involved. Hopefully they throw the book at the rest of them a bit harder, but I really doubt it.
My brother worked for a couple of years on one of these big shot out-of-state "ranching" operations near Phillipsburg. The locals called it "The Flying Checkbook Ranch." Every month they wasted more money on FOOD thrown in the dump than I paid on my mortgage every year. About five times as much! Four thousand dollar fine? Chripes, they just as well tell guys like this to pay up with a pack of bubble gum. Removing their hunting priveledges is the ONLY way you can hurt filthy rich vanity trippers like this guy.
The "other guy" was ostensibly from Green Bay, Wisconsin although he has residences in several states including Illinois.
looks like anouther OJ case "if the glove doesnt fit you must aquit" lol. seems money and political clout can get you out of anything they would have impounded everything I own
I don't feel the punishment matches the misdeed but unlike others here, it's not only wealthy Republicans who skirt the justice system in my universe. Remember that man of the people Ted Kennedy? Drove his car into the ocean with his girlfriend aboard...saved himself...not her...and was never convicted of any felony such as negligent homicide. Let's not talk about B.Clinton nor his midnight pardons for wealthy miscreant contributors. The list can go on. I don't resent people for the wealth they have, only their behavior.
Lord have mercy!!!!!! Lets not make this about a damn political party!!!! Any rich elite Ahole would have gotten off this easy!!! Ontario, Im ticked off just as much as you. Best regards
GERG, if you had lived on the east side of Montana like I have you would know EXACTLY what I am talking about. Given that environment, I find it hard to believe a certain political party was not involved. The news coverage made a big point of his influence in the Republican party. He's also a land developer which makes him even more disgusting in my book. If the case had been fouled up he would simply have pursued it to court. He certainly had the bucks to pay for a lawyer. The fix was in for this guy so he would not lose his license in 37 states. He receives a token settlement rather than getting whipped in court. Again, I am disgusted.
Wow, the ontario honker has cuckle burrs under his saddle, I didnt think this article was about politics. Being a Rep or Demo aint got nothing to do with this issue. Remember, it was his land! But , they should have got his license for a while.
The fees are basically the price of just getting the licences. That is entirely ridiculous.
The rich and connected win again.
IMO: Land developers are bottom feeders, just 1 step up from divorce lawyers and drug dealers and pimps. Tearing up good ranch/farm land, spoiling the water to build crappy McMansions and strip malls and wrecking the economy before lunch, while there is a glut of houses on the market and nice family neighborhoods needing some loving. Want to know why there is global warming: to provide power to heat McMansions in places nature never intended them to be built and roads to get to them. This guy cut a deal because his expensive lawyers found a faulty investigation and then made it public.
The thing about bureaucrats;some of them may be strangled with stupid regulation and some may be lazy, But they have a long memory. When embarrassed (like this guys did), you get their laser like attention. The best place a criminal can be is well below the radar. This guy broke stealth. There will be a lot of hours of state and hopefully federal time dedicated to watching this guy. No opportunities for mis-understanding will be granted the next time. The smartest thing this guys should do is to sell out and move. We will be probably in all likely hood be hearing from this guy again. Politics and Politicians may come and go, but bureaucrats live forever. Lady Justice is a jealous b!tch, she won't be cheated on twice.
It seems silly to me. He owned the land. Down here, land owners don't have to buy licenses when hunting their own land. They should have thanked him for paying his property taxes on time and left him be to do whatever he pleased on HIS land.
Redfish, if he wants to dig up his land and plant beer seeds on it, more power to him. But the game animals DO NOT belong to HIM. They belong to the public. I don't give a damn what he does with the dirt on his land but I sure as hell have a vested interest in anything he might do to the animals and fish that belong to the public. What kind of backward place do you live in anyway? I lived in LA for a while and I sure as hell don't remember any kind of landowner-help-yourself-anytime-any-way regulation like that.
Not anytime anyway, just the owner doesn't have to buy the license. Still have to follow seasons and limits. Which it appears this fella did. The other people would have had the book thrown at them, but not the landowner.
Sounds like the details are in question. Here's the point: Did he break the state's laws or not? If he did, he should be punished accordingly, even if it isn't the max. If the charges were legit, they shouldn't have been dropped. Equal standing under the law. If we don't have that, then we have no Liberty. It's not about Republicrats or Demonicans, it's about our legacy and birthright as Americans!
Ontario, did it EVER cross your mind that the REASON the news media made such a big deal out of him being a Republican? Had he been a DEMOCRAT, it would have been kept quiet as a 'professional courtesy'!! Before you try your 'you need to live here' line on ME, I DID live in Eastern MT for SEVERAL years, and as far as I'M concerned, corruption has NO political affiliation!!
If you followed the case, you would know that the game wardens were caught tampering with evidence and perhaps lying outright. The judge was very, very upset with the way the evidence was gathered and presented. The game wardens may be in trouble here.
In recent court records, Morse's lawyer has accused state game agents of falsifying records and lying in court to cover it up, the Billings Gazette reports. The lawyer, Jay Lansing of Billings, said the charges against Morse should be dismissed due to government misconduct.
"What separates this case from any other case that defense counsel has been involved in the past 27-plus years are the intentional efforts on the part of law enforcement and the state of Montana to cover up their misconduct -- testifying falsely under oath in open court, falsifying reports, conveniently deleting material entries from reports, and acting together to perpetuate the fraud," Lansing said in a recent court document.
Fred, you're not quoting the court records, just the lawyer. What did you expect the guy's lawyer to say? If this was all a crooked settup, why did the guy plead out on several charges in two different counties if he wasn't guilty? He hunted several different years without a license and shot an elk without a license (for which he was fined an incredibly paltry $1,000!!! in Billings court). Pleaded guilty to all those charges. And the observation above that his fine was less than what it would have cost for him to get an out-of-state draw elk permit is pretty much bang on. The guy's family members, friends, ranch boss, and daughter ALL pleaded guilty to various similar charges. Sure, it was all just a settup. Pffft! Yeah, right! The guy from Wisconsin who was also recently convicted in Big Horn County court of hunting without a license also for several years lost his hunting priveledges for 35 years! This clown Morse didn't lose his hunting priveledges for even a year. The Green Bay guy, as far as I can tell, was just an ordinary not-so-wealthy or politically connected schmoe who managed to somehow pass himself off as a Montana resident for several years. At least he BOUGHT his licenses, albeit fraudulently! That arrogant Morse and his family, chest deep in cash as they are, felt they didn't have to even do that! And he was right! Disgusting!
I have tried several times to post a link to Billings Gazette final story on this case but the stupid obsenity filter keeps blocking the url. Nothing obscene in it that I can see. You'll have to google for it. Try "Morse Billings Gazette"
Ontario Honker. You need to think. The state found out what the game wardens did. Why do you think they dropped the felonies? Read what the judge said. Read. Read and learn.
Other than searching a computer without a warrant and entering private property in Florida without a warrant and falsifying records, they did nothing wrong. Both sides were very happy with the outcome, because the state was going to eat crow and some game wardens were going down. No thinking person could come to any other conclusion.
I don't know this guy or what he did or didn't do, but, it is less of a crime than the state of Montana tried to do to a citizen of the United States.
Fred, where are you getting your information. I busted my chops googling every concievable combination of words and though I found tons of news coverage, nothing about any comments the judge supposedly made. It wasn't the guy's money that made the difference, it is his political clout. He has been hunting for several years and pleaded guilty to it. But doesn't even lose his hunting priviledges for one year? As Chad pointed out, the other guy a few weeks ago convicted of hunting with illegally obtained resident licenses gets banned from hunting for 35 years. This Florida big shot hunts WITHOUT a license of any sort for several years and gets a token fine.
When misconduct trumps misconduct and misconduct wins?
Painful, a criminal justice agent aids a criminals justice with a crime ? Vows, oaths, promises, and 85,000 friends in a Florida Retirement community. What happened here Montana ? First time hunter with his game on the ground, tag not filled out in a timely manner will, Ride the Lightning and will not be assuaged.
The judge actually used the word fraud.
In this case, the good guys got caught looking dirty. How serious was it? I can't tell from whats here. Would the errors be inflated by the attorney, you betcha.
I have heard (OK I knew one of the jurors) of a multiple murder investigation in the east, maybe 25 years ago. The had the creep cold, a real premeditated slime ball. But the investigators held back from the defense 1 piece of NON-critical evidence that "could" have been used in the defense. According to the Juror I knew, it would not have made any difference, He was guilty, they had him. But the investigators left the evidence where it eventually turned up, When it did, the judge released the defendant. No retrial, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Cops screwed up, game over. They never found all of the bodies. Moral of the story, integrity counts, accuracy counts.
My guess is the good guys got sloppy in their investigation and this guy had a smart lawyer and he more or less got away with it. My first premise is correct. Lady justice will not be cheated again. They will be watching. Want proof: Where is O.J. now?
Again, Fred, I ask you where you're getting your information. I googled "fraud judge Morse poaching Montana" and got tons of hits but nothing new about what you claim the judge said. I'd love to post several links but F&S keeps rejecting any url in a post as obscenity. Morse's lawyer claimed fraud but he's not the judge. As far as I can determine the judge has made no comment. If this was a "fraud" the guy wouldn't have plead guilty. The only fraud is that he walks away with his hunting priveledges intact, the only punishment that would have meant anything to him. Fred, you're the one who needs to "read, read, read" and do a little less imaginative reporting. This isn't the National Enquirer.
Dtownley, this has nothing to do with the guy not filling out his tag out on a timely basis. HE HAD NO LICENSE. And he hunted year after year in Montana without one. He shot a bull elk and didn't punch out his tag correctly because HE DIDN'T HAVE ONE.
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I don't feel the punishment matches the misdeed but unlike others here, it's not only wealthy Republicans who skirt the justice system in my universe. Remember that man of the people Ted Kennedy? Drove his car into the ocean with his girlfriend aboard...saved himself...not her...and was never convicted of any felony such as negligent homicide. Let's not talk about B.Clinton nor his midnight pardons for wealthy miscreant contributors. The list can go on. I don't resent people for the wealth they have, only their behavior.
Ontario, did it EVER cross your mind that the REASON the news media made such a big deal out of him being a Republican? Had he been a DEMOCRAT, it would have been kept quiet as a 'professional courtesy'!! Before you try your 'you need to live here' line on ME, I DID live in Eastern MT for SEVERAL years, and as far as I'M concerned, corruption has NO political affiliation!!
It comes down to this: why were the charges dropped?
If the investigation was faulty, etc., than that is fine. If there is no reason to drop the charges other than the defendant was wealthy and politically connected, then I say this was wrong and the prosecutors should fired or brought up on whatever possible legal charges themselves.
The whole point of our country's Declaration of Independence and Constitution is equality under the law, no matter if you're net worth is in the millions or is a negative number.
Don't response to this comment and say, "That's the way it is." That's the way it shouldn't be! The man didn't have to face the maximum sentence for the charges. I don't care if it wasn't the maximum sentence. The charges should not be dropped unless there was a legitimate legal reason. A plea deal seems to me to be a ridiculous insult to justice!
Lord have mercy!!!!!! Lets not make this about a damn political party!!!! Any rich elite Ahole would have gotten off this easy!!! Ontario, Im ticked off just as much as you. Best regards
If you followed the case, you would know that the game wardens were caught tampering with evidence and perhaps lying outright. The judge was very, very upset with the way the evidence was gathered and presented. The game wardens may be in trouble here.
Enough money can get you out of very serious crimes. Just ask OJ Simpson!!!
Absolutely not. A monetary punishment must exceed the cost of proper licenses and permits. Based on current non-resident license and tag fees for a limited entry unit this fine is a joke. Cheaper to take your chances getting caught if Montana is just going to slap the wrist of poachers.
Jay, if it were you or I that got caught I doubt they would make a deal with us. More info is needed to really evaluate this.
looks like anouther OJ case "if the glove doesnt fit you must aquit" lol. seems money and political clout can get you out of anything they would have impounded everything I own
Redfish, if he wants to dig up his land and plant beer seeds on it, more power to him. But the game animals DO NOT belong to HIM. They belong to the public. I don't give a damn what he does with the dirt on his land but I sure as hell have a vested interest in anything he might do to the animals and fish that belong to the public. What kind of backward place do you live in anyway? I lived in LA for a while and I sure as hell don't remember any kind of landowner-help-yourself-anytime-any-way regulation like that.
In recent court records, Morse's lawyer has accused state game agents of falsifying records and lying in court to cover it up, the Billings Gazette reports. The lawyer, Jay Lansing of Billings, said the charges against Morse should be dismissed due to government misconduct.
"What separates this case from any other case that defense counsel has been involved in the past 27-plus years are the intentional efforts on the part of law enforcement and the state of Montana to cover up their misconduct -- testifying falsely under oath in open court, falsifying reports, conveniently deleting material entries from reports, and acting together to perpetuate the fraud," Lansing said in a recent court document.
Ontario Honker. You need to think. The state found out what the game wardens did. Why do you think they dropped the felonies? Read what the judge said. Read. Read and learn.
I don't know this guy or what he did or didn't do, but, it is less of a crime than the state of Montana tried to do to a citizen of the United States.
Fred, where are you getting your information. I busted my chops googling every concievable combination of words and though I found tons of news coverage, nothing about any comments the judge supposedly made. It wasn't the guy's money that made the difference, it is his political clout. He has been hunting for several years and pleaded guilty to it. But doesn't even lose his hunting priviledges for one year? As Chad pointed out, the other guy a few weeks ago convicted of hunting with illegally obtained resident licenses gets banned from hunting for 35 years. This Florida big shot hunts WITHOUT a license of any sort for several years and gets a token fine.
The "other guy" was ostensibly from Green Bay, Wisconsin although he has residences in several states including Illinois.
GERG, if you had lived on the east side of Montana like I have you would know EXACTLY what I am talking about. Given that environment, I find it hard to believe a certain political party was not involved. The news coverage made a big point of his influence in the Republican party. He's also a land developer which makes him even more disgusting in my book. If the case had been fouled up he would simply have pursued it to court. He certainly had the bucks to pay for a lawyer. The fix was in for this guy so he would not lose his license in 37 states. He receives a token settlement rather than getting whipped in court. Again, I am disgusted.
Wow, the ontario honker has cuckle burrs under his saddle, I didnt think this article was about politics. Being a Rep or Demo aint got nothing to do with this issue. Remember, it was his land! But , they should have got his license for a while.
The fees are basically the price of just getting the licences. That is entirely ridiculous.
The rich and connected win again.
IMO: Land developers are bottom feeders, just 1 step up from divorce lawyers and drug dealers and pimps. Tearing up good ranch/farm land, spoiling the water to build crappy McMansions and strip malls and wrecking the economy before lunch, while there is a glut of houses on the market and nice family neighborhoods needing some loving. Want to know why there is global warming: to provide power to heat McMansions in places nature never intended them to be built and roads to get to them. This guy cut a deal because his expensive lawyers found a faulty investigation and then made it public.
The thing about bureaucrats;some of them may be strangled with stupid regulation and some may be lazy, But they have a long memory. When embarrassed (like this guys did), you get their laser like attention. The best place a criminal can be is well below the radar. This guy broke stealth. There will be a lot of hours of state and hopefully federal time dedicated to watching this guy. No opportunities for mis-understanding will be granted the next time. The smartest thing this guys should do is to sell out and move. We will be probably in all likely hood be hearing from this guy again. Politics and Politicians may come and go, but bureaucrats live forever. Lady Justice is a jealous b!tch, she won't be cheated on twice.
Not anytime anyway, just the owner doesn't have to buy the license. Still have to follow seasons and limits. Which it appears this fella did. The other people would have had the book thrown at them, but not the landowner.
Sounds like the details are in question. Here's the point: Did he break the state's laws or not? If he did, he should be punished accordingly, even if it isn't the max. If the charges were legit, they shouldn't have been dropped. Equal standing under the law. If we don't have that, then we have no Liberty. It's not about Republicrats or Demonicans, it's about our legacy and birthright as Americans!
Other than searching a computer without a warrant and entering private property in Florida without a warrant and falsifying records, they did nothing wrong. Both sides were very happy with the outcome, because the state was going to eat crow and some game wardens were going down. No thinking person could come to any other conclusion.
When misconduct trumps misconduct and misconduct wins?
Painful, a criminal justice agent aids a criminals justice with a crime ? Vows, oaths, promises, and 85,000 friends in a Florida Retirement community. What happened here Montana ? First time hunter with his game on the ground, tag not filled out in a timely manner will, Ride the Lightning and will not be assuaged.
The judge actually used the word fraud.
In this case, the good guys got caught looking dirty. How serious was it? I can't tell from whats here. Would the errors be inflated by the attorney, you betcha.
I have heard (OK I knew one of the jurors) of a multiple murder investigation in the east, maybe 25 years ago. The had the creep cold, a real premeditated slime ball. But the investigators held back from the defense 1 piece of NON-critical evidence that "could" have been used in the defense. According to the Juror I knew, it would not have made any difference, He was guilty, they had him. But the investigators left the evidence where it eventually turned up, When it did, the judge released the defendant. No retrial, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Cops screwed up, game over. They never found all of the bodies. Moral of the story, integrity counts, accuracy counts.
My guess is the good guys got sloppy in their investigation and this guy had a smart lawyer and he more or less got away with it. My first premise is correct. Lady justice will not be cheated again. They will be watching. Want proof: Where is O.J. now?
Again, Fred, I ask you where you're getting your information. I googled "fraud judge Morse poaching Montana" and got tons of hits but nothing new about what you claim the judge said. I'd love to post several links but F&S keeps rejecting any url in a post as obscenity. Morse's lawyer claimed fraud but he's not the judge. As far as I can determine the judge has made no comment. If this was a "fraud" the guy wouldn't have plead guilty. The only fraud is that he walks away with his hunting priveledges intact, the only punishment that would have meant anything to him. Fred, you're the one who needs to "read, read, read" and do a little less imaginative reporting. This isn't the National Enquirer.
Dtownley, this has nothing to do with the guy not filling out his tag out on a timely basis. HE HAD NO LICENSE. And he hunted year after year in Montana without one. He shot a bull elk and didn't punch out his tag correctly because HE DIDN'T HAVE ONE.
It seems silly to me. He owned the land. Down here, land owners don't have to buy licenses when hunting their own land. They should have thanked him for paying his property taxes on time and left him be to do whatever he pleased on HIS land.
Fred, you're not quoting the court records, just the lawyer. What did you expect the guy's lawyer to say? If this was all a crooked settup, why did the guy plead out on several charges in two different counties if he wasn't guilty? He hunted several different years without a license and shot an elk without a license (for which he was fined an incredibly paltry $1,000!!! in Billings court). Pleaded guilty to all those charges. And the observation above that his fine was less than what it would have cost for him to get an out-of-state draw elk permit is pretty much bang on. The guy's family members, friends, ranch boss, and daughter ALL pleaded guilty to various similar charges. Sure, it was all just a settup. Pffft! Yeah, right! The guy from Wisconsin who was also recently convicted in Big Horn County court of hunting without a license also for several years lost his hunting priveledges for 35 years! This clown Morse didn't lose his hunting priveledges for even a year. The Green Bay guy, as far as I can tell, was just an ordinary not-so-wealthy or politically connected schmoe who managed to somehow pass himself off as a Montana resident for several years. At least he BOUGHT his licenses, albeit fraudulently! That arrogant Morse and his family, chest deep in cash as they are, felt they didn't have to even do that! And he was right! Disgusting!
I have tried several times to post a link to Billings Gazette final story on this case but the stupid obsenity filter keeps blocking the url. Nothing obscene in it that I can see. You'll have to google for it. Try "Morse Billings Gazette"
He's a big-shot out-of-state Republican living in Montana. What did you expect? Certainly didn't expect that he would lose his hunting priviledges in several states, including Florida, for decades. Not like the other guy from Illinois (who was probably a "liberal"). Reminds me of how Cheney thwarted investigation and prosecution for reckless endangerment when he was drunk and shot his hunting partner. This crap makes me ill. I am not a law-breaker but I swear if I lived anywhere in the vincinity of that douche bag's two so-called ranches, I would certainly turn a blind eye to any vandalism headed his way. I suspect his fencing bill is about to go through the roof. Families like that need to be tarred and feathered and sent out of that state on a rail. Yes, it was his whole family involved. Hopefully they throw the book at the rest of them a bit harder, but I really doubt it.
My brother worked for a couple of years on one of these big shot out-of-state "ranching" operations near Phillipsburg. The locals called it "The Flying Checkbook Ranch." Every month they wasted more money on FOOD thrown in the dump than I paid on my mortgage every year. About five times as much! Four thousand dollar fine? Chripes, they just as well tell guys like this to pay up with a pack of bubble gum. Removing their hunting priveledges is the ONLY way you can hurt filthy rich vanity trippers like this guy.
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