


May 30, 2012
More Ducks Killed Later in the Season: Climate Change or Coincidence?
--Chad Love

A new study by Delta Waterfowl seems to confirm what many waterfowlers have long suspected: More and more of our ducks are being shot later and later in the season.
From this press release from Delta Waterfowl:
The Delta Duck Migration Study, commissioned by the Bipartisan Policy Center, was written by science director Dr. Frank Rohwer, Louisiana State University graduate student Bruce Davis and senior director of U.S. policy John Devney. The study examined data from the annual Parts Collection Survey. The US Fish and Wildlife Service has collected comprehensive harvest data from hunters since 1961.
"With few exceptions, harvest dates for mallards throughout the mid-latitude and southern states have become consistently later," says Dr. Rohwer. "Mallard harvest is on average ten days later in Arkansas, fifteen days later in California, sixteen days later in Illinois, and twelve days later in Virginia."
While many states have extended waterfowl seasons from past years, according to the story, that's not the only reason ducks are being shot ever later in the season. The study also looked at harvest data for non-migrating mottled ducks and found them to be shot at pretty much the same time they always were. So why are migrants being shot later in the year?
From the story: A hot topic in southern duck blinds is whether changes in northern agriculture that provide additional food may be holding ducks longer in northern states. The theory goes that field-feeding ducks like mallards and pintails will stay longer; fatting up on left over corn and soy beans in higher latitudes. If food was the driver of migration and harvest dates, says Dr. Rohwer, then gadwall and ring-necked ducks that never feed in fields should migrate and be harvested at the same time as in prior decades. The harvest data, however, shows that all four species show similar shifts in delayed harvest. The idea that northern agriculture is holding ducks back is 'unlikely', concludes the report.
So if it's not later hunting season dates, and it's not an excess of northern feed fields, could the delay be caused by the one large and extremely contentious elephant left in the room? According to the story, the answer is a firm and resounding "maybe, but we don’t know."
From the story: The report also had a preliminary look at whether or not migration may be delayed because of the potential effects of climate change. While the report concluded it's 'plausible', the harvest data can neither prove nor disprove any connection between migration and climate change.
Thoughts? Reactions? What are you seeing from your spot in the blind? Have you noticed any curious or disturbing trends the past few seasons?
Comments (19)
Most recognize that climates change, and change often. It is a matter whether you are a kook, or not, and believed MAN CAUSED climate to change. As bad as believing the dinosaurs became extinct because of their excessive farting.
Sayfu,
Yes, because it is so, so crazy to believe that 7 billion people on the planet could possibly have an affect on the environment.
Volcanic eruptions have been shown to have temporary impacts on weather. Why is it so hard for you to believe 100+ years of industry could do the same thing on a global scale?
Sayfu, do you even read these posts or just go off on a conspiratorial tirade anytime someone mentions a political hot-topic? The article says that the researchers concluded that they can't totally rule out climate change as being a player in duck migration, but they also said that given the data they analyzed, they can't really conclude anything for certain.
I've been havesting a lot more ducks later in the season, but that's because I've gotten less excited about opening day. The crowds and the warm early-season weather tend to keep me away. Give me a late season, cold-weather hunt over a september teal hunt anyday!
So you liberals are still promoting that ruse, and behind obstructing fossil fuel generation backing the EPA? lol! I think you need to go find ALGore, and bring him out of hiding. Democrats in congress, the decent ones, don't even support that corrupt theory anymore.
"Democrats in congress, the decent ones, don't even support that corrupt theory anymore."
Ruse? You mean anthropogenic global warming? You mean the scientific theory that Republican Presiential Candidate Mitt Romney had this to say about last year:
“I don’t speak for the scientific community, of course,” Romney said at a town-hall meeting in New Hampshire. “But I believe the world’s getting warmer. I can’t prove that, but I believe based on what I read that the world is getting warmer. And number two, I believe that humans contribute to that.”
And you think the world's only 6,000 years old too, I presume? If you want a consultation about your health, who's advice do you value more - a stock broker or a doctor? Do you consult a lawyer or a mechanic for car trouble?
Why you would value a career politician's OPINIONS about anything scientific is beyond me. I'll trust experts in the field and data over most anything else - and yes, my beliefs constantly evolve whenever new, better data is available. If you can present me with sufficient data to convince me otherwise, I'll gladly change my tune.
As a duck hunter with 61 freeze-ups under his belt there is another side to the equation. If you look at the duck hunters since 1961 there have been quite a few changes in the equipment and attitudes of the community. Hunters today are much more likely to invest in technology, and equipment to hunt than the non camoflaged hunters of the 60s. While there were dedicated old duck hunters back in the day, there weren't nearly as many as you'll find on marshes today. 60s duck hunters weren't as likely to invest as much money and time chasing birds as todays hunters are. Earlier records may show reduced late season pressure as much as the late season abundence of the birds. I've always hunted the last marshes I could find open. I've always killed more birds late in the season than early in the season. I love hunting in the snow. Model 12s shoot fat late season mallards. Picking up the decoys seems to be getting a little bit colder on my fingers though.
Hermit crab, The top leading climate change, global warming, etc... researcher left his position this year because of the corruption in the science behind it. If you think politicians and scientists are in cohorts together wether real or hoax your only fooling yourself. Also the air and water is cleaner than it was in the 50's-mid 90's than it ever was. Humans do not cause global warming and if they did they couldn't control it either. Everyone always says well it was warmer this year than the last, and I would agree because last 7 years it got frigid cold here in Ohio and we had massive amounts of snowfall to go with the frigid weather. Trusting science has become idiotic in my opinion, heres why. One day milk is good for you the next it is not. One day this drug is good for you the next it kills you. One day plastic is good and the next it is not. One day the world is going to end and the next day it isn't. Science is based on theories with some facts to back but all theories. I forget what famous scientist said "science is a theory to be proven and then disproven by another scientist, which creates the on going cycle of scientific theories". Believing in something is ok but punishing those who do not is not ok. Who says what the optimal temperature of the earth is? You, Bob, Me, Hal, Scientist "A", Scientist "B", etc....? If man creates global warming what do we do then? Do we commit genocide and kill off millions or billions? Who decides who stays and who goes? Reality and records do show tangible evidence not theory that earth has cycles of cooling and warming and we are taught that as children in school, but now we are taught the earth is only warming thanks to mankind, how do we not know this isn't a cycle? To many vairables to this theory to prove true, so yes many like myself and Sayfu do not believe and rightfully so, but we do not blame everything on nonsense and expect others to follow blindly. Is the duck issue possibly due to hunting pressure and their intellegence? Maybe habitat, we have had many discussions lately on the pothole region mabe they see it worth braving the cold or migrating to other regions. What about hunting seasons overlapping? What about Joebob down the way shooting at the ducks prior to you and they change directions? What about your blind sucking? What about your blind being in the wrong place at the right time? What about nature being unpredictable?
Further damning revelations are pouring in from the gaping wound that has inflicted the fast unraveling theory of the green monster that is man made global warming. As reported today by By Marc Morano of Climate Depot, Alabama State Climatologist Dr. John Christy of the University of Alabama in Huntsville, has split ranks with other members of the discredited “hockey team” of climatologists exposed for fraudulently hiding and destroying data in the Climategate scandal that broke on November 19, 2009.
Christy served as a UN IPCC lead author in 2001 for the 3rd assessment report and detailed in these new revelations he explains how he personally witnessed UN scientists attempting to distort the science for political purposes. But he fell from favour for proposing that the IPCC allow for well-credentialed climate scientists to craft a chapter on an alternative view presenting evidence for low climate sensitivity to greenhouse gases.
“I was at the table with three Europeans, and we were having lunch. And they were talking about their role as lead authors. And they were talking about how they were trying to make the report so dramatic that the United States would just have to sign that Kyoto Protocol,” Christy told CNN on May 2, 2007.
Christy’s statements carry even more weight when we examine the considerable pressure also being applied to him to keep quiet about the cracks appearing in the dodgy science dossiers being churned out for the IPCC. We get an insight into the conspiracy of secrecy Christy was opposing as he is one of the climatologists whose leaked emails are part of the Climategate scandal.
In the leaked CRU email dated Thu, 24 May 2001 11:33, Michael Mann was critical of Christy and scolded him for publicly showing dissent for not agreeing with Mann that 20th century temperatures were higher than the Medieval warm period:
“So do I [Mann] understand correctly that you are referring to the results of Dahl-Jensen et al as conflicting with what we say in the chapter? At the face of it, this argument has no merit whatsoever. I think we should all use a better explanation from you, since you seem to be arguing publically that the Dahl-Jensen et al record undermines what we’ve said in the chapter.”
Professor Phil Jones again tries to indicate the peer pressure they are all under not to make public admissions damaging to their ever more flawed theory in an email sent to Christy dated Tue Jul 5, 2005;
“The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn’t statistically significant.”
The unrelenting peer pressure being applied to Christy continues, this time coming from Michael Mann. Climatologists, Neville Nichols and Phil Jones discuss the issue in another leaked CRU email dated Wed Jul 6 15:07:45 2005.
“I know I [Nichols] could have asked John [Christy] about all of this, but I suspect he feels a bit over-burdened and harassed at the moment, and I didn’t want to add to the pressure on him, so thanks for passing this stuff on to me.”
Further emails substantiate that the “hockey team” were systematically applying peer pressure to convince Christy that recent weather balloon data (out of kilt with dodgy ground thermometer readings) was, itself in error.
Phil Jones admits, “the sondes [weather balloons] clearly show too much cooling in the stratosphere.”
The fact weather balloons were detecting cooling rather than warming in the tropical stratosphere was a key signal that the whole theory of anthropogenic global warming was probably wrong. Thus, to avoid embarrassment the “hockey team” rounded on Christy to conspire to suppress these facts.
Professor Christy has since proposed major reforms and changes to the way the UN IPCC report is produced. Christy has rejected the UN approach that produces “a document designed for uniformity and consensus.” Christy presented his views at a UN meeting in 2009. “An alternative view section written by well-credentialed climate scientists is needed,” Christy said. “If not, why not? What is there to fear? In a scientific area as uncertain as climate, the opinions of all are required,” he added. ‘The reception to my comments was especially cold’
At least the weather in Copenhagen is likely to be cooperating. The Danish Meteorological Institute predicts that temperatures in December, when the city will host the United Nations Climate Change Conference, will be one degree above the long-term average.
Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth's average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year.
Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the upcoming world summit in the Danish capital, where thousands of politicians, bureaucrats, scientists, business leaders and environmental activists plan to negotiate a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations.
Reached a Plateau
The planet's temperature curve rose sharply for almost 30 years, as global temperatures increased by an average of 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.25 degrees Fahrenheit) from the 1970s to the late 1990s. "At present, however, the warming is taking a break," confirms meteorologist Mojib Latif of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in the northern German city of Kiel. Latif, one of Germany's best-known climatologists, says that the temperature curve has reached a plateau. "There can be no argument about that," he says. "We have to face that fact."
Even though the temperature standstill probably has no effect on the long-term warming trend, it does raise doubts about the predictive value of climate models, and it is also a political issue. For months, climate change skeptics have been gloating over the findings on their Internet forums. This has prompted many a climatologist to treat the temperature data in public with a sense of shame, thereby damaging their own credibility.
"It cannot be denied that this is one of the hottest issues in the scientific community," says Jochem Marotzke, director of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg. "We don't really know why this stagnation is taking place at this point."
Just a few weeks ago, Britain's Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research added more fuel to the fire with its latest calculations of global average temperatures. According to the Hadley figures, the world grew warmer by 0.07 degrees Celsius from 1999 to 2008 and not by the 0.2 degrees Celsius assumed by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. And, say the British experts, when their figure is adjusted for two naturally occurring climate phenomena, El Niño and La Niña, the resulting temperature trend is reduced to 0.0 degrees Celsius -- in other words, a standstill.
The differences among individual regions of the world are considerable. In the Arctic, for example, temperatures rose by almost three degrees Celsius, which led to a dramatic melting of sea ice. At the same time, temperatures declined in large areas of North America, the western Pacific and the Arabian Peninsula. Europe, including Germany, remains slightly in positive warming territory.
Mixed Messages
But a few scientists simply refuse to believe the British calculations. "Warming has continued in the last few years," says Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK). However, Rahmstorf is more or less alone in his view. Hamburg Max Planck Institute scientist Jochem Marotzke, on the other hand, says: "I hardly know any colleagues who would deny that it hasn't gotten warmer in recent years."
The controversy sends confusing and mixed messages to the lay public. Why is there such a vigorous debate over climate change, even though it isn't getting warmer at the moment? And how can it be that scientists cannot even arrive at a consensus on changes in temperatures, even though temperatures are constantly being measured?
The global temperature-monitoring network consists of 517 weather stations. But each reading is only a tiny dot on the big world map, and it has to be extrapolated to the entire region with the help of supercomputers. Besides, there are still many blind spots, the largest being the Arctic, where there are only about 20 measuring stations to cover a vast area. Climatologists refer to the problem as the "Arctic hole."
The scientists at the Hadley Center simply used the global average value for the hole, ignoring the fact that it has become significantly warmer in the Arctic, says Rahmstorf. But a NASA team from the Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, which does make the kinds of adjustments for the Arctic data that Rahmstorf believes are necessary, arrives at a flat temperature curve for the last five years that is similar to that of their British colleagues.
Marotzke and Leibniz Institute meteorologist Mojib Latif are even convinced that the fuzzy computing done by Rahmstorf is counterproductive. "We have to explain to the public that greenhouse gases will not cause temperatures to keep rising from one record temperature to the next, but that they are still subject to natural fluctuations," says Latif. For this reason, he adds, it is dangerous to cite individual weather-related occurrences, such as a drought in Mali or a hurricane, as proof positive that climate change is already fully underway.
"Perhaps we suggested too strongly in the past that the development will continue going up along a simple, straight line. In reality, phases of stagnation or even cooling are completely normal," says Latif.
Part 2: The Difficulties of Predicting the Climate
Climatologists use their computer models to draw temperature curves that continue well into the future. They predict that the average global temperature will increase by about three degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, unless humanity manages to drastically reduce greenhouse gas emissions. However, no one really knows what exactly the world climate will look like in the not-so-distant future, that is, in 2015, 2030 or 2050.
This is because it is not just human influence but natural factors that affect the Earth's climate. For instance, currents in the world's oceans are subject to certain cycles, as is solar activity. Major volcanic eruptions can also curb rising temperatures in the medium term. The eruption of Mount Pinatubo in June 1991, for example, caused world temperatures to drop by an average of 0.5 degrees Celsius, thereby prolonging a cooler climate phase that had begun in the late 1980s.
But the Mount Pinatubo eruption happened too long ago to be related to the current slowdown in global warming. So what is behind this more recent phenomenon?
Weaker Solar Activity
The fact is that the sun is weakening slightly. Its radiation activity is currently at a minimum, as evidenced by the small number of sunspots on its surface. According to calculations performed by a group of NASA scientists led by David Rind, which were recently published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, this reduced solar activity is the most important cause of stagnating global warming.
Latif, on the other hand, attributes the stagnation to so-called Pacific decadal oscillation (PDO). This phenomenon in the Pacific Ocean allows a larger volume of cold deep-sea water to rise to the surface at the equator. According to Latif, this has a significant cooling effect on the Earth's atmosphere.
With his team at the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences, Latif has been one of the first to develop a model to create medium-term prognoses for the next five to 10 years. "We are slowly starting to attempt (such models)," says Marotzke, who is also launching a major project in this area, funded by the Federal Ministry for Research and Technology.
Despite their current findings, scientists agree that temperatures will continue to rise in the long term. The big question is: When will it start getting warmer again?
If the deep waters of the Pacific are, in fact, the most important factor holding up global warming, climate change will remain at a standstill until the middle of the next decade, says Latif. But if the cooling trend is the result of reduced solar activity, things could start getting warmer again much sooner. Based on past experience, solar activity will likely increase again in the next few years.
Betting on Warmer Temperatures
The Hadley Center group expects warming to resume in the coming years. "That resumption could come as a bit of a jolt," says Hadley climatologist Adam Scaife, explaining that natural cyclical warming would then be augmented by the warming effect caused by anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.
While climatologists at conferences engage in passionate debates over when temperatures will start rising again, global warming's next steps have also become the subject of betting activity.
Climatologist Stefan Rahmstorf is so convinced that his predictions will be correct in the end that he is willing to back up his conviction with a €2,500 ($3,700) bet. "I will win," says Rahmstorf.
His adversary Latif turned down the bet, saying that the matter was too serious for gambling. "We are scientists, not poker players."
14 Jun 11 - On November 20, 2009, an unnamed climate scientist released more than four thousand private e-mails and climate-related files on the Internet.
Most of these highly embarrassing internal documents came from the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom, headed by Professor Phil Jones.
Those of us who long suspected that the CRU and other anthropogenic global warming (AGW) alarmists had ‘cooked up’ falsified historical climate data to support a predetermined conclusion, were finally able to look at the scientists ‘hidden agenda.’
For many years, AGW scientists had refused to share much of their research data relating to global warming. The CRU and the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) each did everything possible to deny past periods of global warming and cooling that took place on this planet between 600 B.C. and 1850 A.D.
By extreme contrast, Randy Mann, Bob Felix and I have shared our detailed long-term charts and graphs frequently with our subscribers over the past couple of decades.
These charts of ours (and other scientists) detail several periods of warming and cooling during the past 2,600 years.
The Roman Warm Period between 250 B.C. and 450 A.D. and the Medieval Warm Period of 900 A.D. and 1300 A.D. each produced widespread prosperity in the world. Remember, WARM TIMES ARE ‘GOOD TIMES,’ CO2 or not.
By extreme contrast, however, the harsh Dark Ages Cold Period, that extended from 535 A.D. to approximately 900 A.D., saw a dramatic decline in living conditions through Europe and Asia. Crops failed, which led to disease and famine, and the average European lifespan decreased by nearly 20 years!
The so-called ‘Little Ice Age,’ which occurred from 1350 to 1850 A.D. wiped out the mighty Vikings, who were previously farming Greenland during the Medieval Warm Period as well as the advanced Incan civilization in the mountains of Peru that likewise flourished during warmer times.
Asia, Europe and North America saw massive economic, social and health-related hardships, especially during the ‘heart’ of the Little Ice Age around the ‘Maunder Minimum’ (extremely low sunspot activity) between 1645 and 1715, when the Thames River in London froze on an annual basis.
My own exhaustive climate research shows that the earth does not maintain a ‘static’ climate. It’s always changing. Our sun is the major influence on our planet’s climate at any given time, as I pointed out last week. It’s getting active again, hence a new trend towards a bit warmer temperatures in the near-term, a naturally occurring cycle, especially in the eastern U.S. and southwestern Europe.
My biggest complaint with the AGW scientists is that their climate models tend to ignore the past significant changes on the planet.
For example, University of Virginia Professor Michael Mann’s ‘hockey-stick graph’ is a climatological ‘joke,’ in my not so humble opinion. It shows a very stable climate on a global scale between 1000 A.D. and 1980 A.D. followed by a huge warmup in the past 30 years since 1981.
Many of these ‘Climategate’ e-mails exposed Mann’s statistical errors in his hockey-stick graph. He completely ignored the 11-year cooling period between 1998 and 2009 that almost wiped-out the warming cycle of 1981 to 1998 in the mid-latitudes.
Mann was told by Professor Phil Jones in a November 2009 e-mail, "not to leave stuff lying around that would point out his many climate errors."
Canadian climate scientists, Ross McKitrick and Steve McIntyre, have completely discredited Mann’s ‘hockey-stick’ graph. To me, it’s just a "cracked puck in the weeds."
Only a few dozen climate scientists still support the AGW cause. At least 32,000 climate scientists worldwide, approximately 9,000 holding PhD’s, now believe that the ‘theory of catastrophic global warming’ is not supported by scientific evidence over the ages. Carbon dioxide does not heat the planet.
Like me, they also believe that carbon dioxide (CO2) is a beneficial substance for both plants and animals, not a pollutant like carbon monoxide or sulfur dioxide.
Next week, what about Al Gore’s claims of "rising sea levels" that may eventually swamp New York City, New Orleans and San Francisco? Stay tuned.
Sorry to y'all but I have to agree that global warming does exist. Everyone has their opinions but I think those who think it does exist will get the last laugh on this one. And for shooting more ducks in the late season, I shoot a ton of wood ducks and teal in the early season and I will take those any day over late season divers or even malllards. Wood ducks and teal just taste better to me.
Just look at the difference in waders availible to duck hunters in the 60s compared to todays. The vehicles duck hunters drive today are a tad different too. I don't remember anyone owning a 4 wheel drive back in the day, today every dedicated hunter either owns one or has a hunting buddy with one. A hunter can get to, and get out of places that the 60s hunter could hardly think of getting to.
Bleveson there is no problem in believing in it but hurting people fiscally or physically on false science is intolerable. These figure and the whole global warming theory is based solely on computer modeling with questionable data plugged into them. Just my opinion, but if you believe in anthropagenic global warming/climate change your no different than the moonbats that believe the world will end this year in Dec thanks to a people who couldn't predict their own demise!
I do so miss the comments on F&S.
Dcast: that is the best explanation of what is happening in the scientific, political, and media spheres regarding climate change that I have read yet, and I've read a few trying to figure out what is what and who is telling the truth. What you said regarding the many variables, especially solar activity, makes more sense to me than the litany of near-religious fervor spouted by the apologists who want to blame mankind, pardon me, uh, humankind, for all of this planet's woes. Yes, there are more and more of us, and that means wild habitat is being decreased everywhere, which probably has more effect on global animal populations and, to some extent, climate than other factors derived from human activity. But to pass laws and regulations which materially affect economies and therefore people's ability to feed and clothe themselves based on indeterminant science, which by definition is always changing itself, is irresponsible at best, and possibly criminal. What gets me the most is the massive conspiracy (and I use that word advisedly) to stifle any contrary voices such as yourself. It's come to the point that I don't believe anyone anymore, especially if they are on that medium of the masses, TV (and now the internet which has more kooks and outright liars than ever before conceivable). which reminds me: you obviously have some serious credentials - would you consider identifying yourself by name? I think I may know who you are but stating your real name would add weight to your post with those fence sitters and others who like to think for themselves.
i still believe that the climate goes through stages of warming and cooling. do i think that humans are helping with that? yes. but thinking back, i have always had more luck later in the season.
Jeez, and all these years I thought the reason we killed more ducks later in the season was because they didn't get to Alabama until then,,,, I didn't realize how tunnel-visioned I was all these years until I read the reams of posts on this topic ;-)
I've always found that waterfowl are easier in the late season. The foul weather makes them more aggressive to move about/around and feed. Nobody like foul weather hunting more than a diehard duck hunter.
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As a duck hunter with 61 freeze-ups under his belt there is another side to the equation. If you look at the duck hunters since 1961 there have been quite a few changes in the equipment and attitudes of the community. Hunters today are much more likely to invest in technology, and equipment to hunt than the non camoflaged hunters of the 60s. While there were dedicated old duck hunters back in the day, there weren't nearly as many as you'll find on marshes today. 60s duck hunters weren't as likely to invest as much money and time chasing birds as todays hunters are. Earlier records may show reduced late season pressure as much as the late season abundence of the birds. I've always hunted the last marshes I could find open. I've always killed more birds late in the season than early in the season. I love hunting in the snow. Model 12s shoot fat late season mallards. Picking up the decoys seems to be getting a little bit colder on my fingers though.
Sayfu,
Yes, because it is so, so crazy to believe that 7 billion people on the planet could possibly have an affect on the environment.
Volcanic eruptions have been shown to have temporary impacts on weather. Why is it so hard for you to believe 100+ years of industry could do the same thing on a global scale?
Sayfu, do you even read these posts or just go off on a conspiratorial tirade anytime someone mentions a political hot-topic? The article says that the researchers concluded that they can't totally rule out climate change as being a player in duck migration, but they also said that given the data they analyzed, they can't really conclude anything for certain.
I've been havesting a lot more ducks later in the season, but that's because I've gotten less excited about opening day. The crowds and the warm early-season weather tend to keep me away. Give me a late season, cold-weather hunt over a september teal hunt anyday!
Hermit crab, The top leading climate change, global warming, etc... researcher left his position this year because of the corruption in the science behind it. If you think politicians and scientists are in cohorts together wether real or hoax your only fooling yourself. Also the air and water is cleaner than it was in the 50's-mid 90's than it ever was. Humans do not cause global warming and if they did they couldn't control it either. Everyone always says well it was warmer this year than the last, and I would agree because last 7 years it got frigid cold here in Ohio and we had massive amounts of snowfall to go with the frigid weather. Trusting science has become idiotic in my opinion, heres why. One day milk is good for you the next it is not. One day this drug is good for you the next it kills you. One day plastic is good and the next it is not. One day the world is going to end and the next day it isn't. Science is based on theories with some facts to back but all theories. I forget what famous scientist said "science is a theory to be proven and then disproven by another scientist, which creates the on going cycle of scientific theories". Believing in something is ok but punishing those who do not is not ok. Who says what the optimal temperature of the earth is? You, Bob, Me, Hal, Scientist "A", Scientist "B", etc....? If man creates global warming what do we do then? Do we commit genocide and kill off millions or billions? Who decides who stays and who goes? Reality and records do show tangible evidence not theory that earth has cycles of cooling and warming and we are taught that as children in school, but now we are taught the earth is only warming thanks to mankind, how do we not know this isn't a cycle? To many vairables to this theory to prove true, so yes many like myself and Sayfu do not believe and rightfully so, but we do not blame everything on nonsense and expect others to follow blindly. Is the duck issue possibly due to hunting pressure and their intellegence? Maybe habitat, we have had many discussions lately on the pothole region mabe they see it worth braving the cold or migrating to other regions. What about hunting seasons overlapping? What about Joebob down the way shooting at the ducks prior to you and they change directions? What about your blind sucking? What about your blind being in the wrong place at the right time? What about nature being unpredictable?
14 Jun 11 - On November 20, 2009, an unnamed climate scientist released more than four thousand private e-mails and climate-related files on the Internet.
Most of these highly embarrassing internal documents came from the Climate Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia in the United Kingdom, headed by Professor Phil Jones.
Those of us who long suspected that the CRU and other anthropogenic global warming (AGW) alarmists had ‘cooked up’ falsified historical climate data to support a predetermined conclusion, were finally able to look at the scientists ‘hidden agenda.’
For many years, AGW scientists had refused to share much of their research data relating to global warming. The CRU and the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) each did everything possible to deny past periods of global warming and cooling that took place on this planet between 600 B.C. and 1850 A.D.
By extreme contrast, Randy Mann, Bob Felix and I have shared our detailed long-term charts and graphs frequently with our subscribers over the past couple of decades.
These charts of ours (and other scientists) detail several periods of warming and cooling during the past 2,600 years.
The Roman Warm Period between 250 B.C. and 450 A.D. and the Medieval Warm Period of 900 A.D. and 1300 A.D. each produced widespread prosperity in the world. Remember, WARM TIMES ARE ‘GOOD TIMES,’ CO2 or not.
By extreme contrast, however, the harsh Dark Ages Cold Period, that extended from 535 A.D. to approximately 900 A.D., saw a dramatic decline in living conditions through Europe and Asia. Crops failed, which led to disease and famine, and the average European lifespan decreased by nearly 20 years!
The so-called ‘Little Ice Age,’ which occurred from 1350 to 1850 A.D. wiped out the mighty Vikings, who were previously farming Greenland during the Medieval Warm Period as well as the advanced Incan civilization in the mountains of Peru that likewise flourished during warmer times.
Asia, Europe and North America saw massive economic, social and health-related hardships, especially during the ‘heart’ of the Little Ice Age around the ‘Maunder Minimum’ (extremely low sunspot activity) between 1645 and 1715, when the Thames River in London froze on an annual basis.
My own exhaustive climate research shows that the earth does not maintain a ‘static’ climate. It’s always changing. Our sun is the major influence on our planet’s climate at any given time, as I pointed out last week. It’s getting active again, hence a new trend towards a bit warmer temperatures in the near-term, a naturally occurring cycle, especially in the eastern U.S. and southwestern Europe.
My biggest complaint with the AGW scientists is that their climate models tend to ignore the past significant changes on the planet.
For example, University of Virginia Professor Michael Mann’s ‘hockey-stick graph’ is a climatological ‘joke,’ in my not so humble opinion. It shows a very stable climate on a global scale between 1000 A.D. and 1980 A.D. followed by a huge warmup in the past 30 years since 1981.
Many of these ‘Climategate’ e-mails exposed Mann’s statistical errors in his hockey-stick graph. He completely ignored the 11-year cooling period between 1998 and 2009 that almost wiped-out the warming cycle of 1981 to 1998 in the mid-latitudes.
Mann was told by Professor Phil Jones in a November 2009 e-mail, "not to leave stuff lying around that would point out his many climate errors."
Canadian climate scientists, Ross McKitrick and Steve McIntyre, have completely discredited Mann’s ‘hockey-stick’ graph. To me, it’s just a "cracked puck in the weeds."
Only a few dozen climate scientists still support the AGW cause. At least 32,000 climate scientists worldwide, approximately 9,000 holding PhD’s, now believe that the ‘theory of catastrophic global warming’ is not supported by scientific evidence over the ages. Carbon dioxide does not heat the planet.
Like me, they also believe that carbon dioxide (CO2) is a beneficial substance for both plants and animals, not a pollutant like carbon monoxide or sulfur dioxide.
Next week, what about Al Gore’s claims of "rising sea levels" that may eventually swamp New York City, New Orleans and San Francisco? Stay tuned.
Bleveson there is no problem in believing in it but hurting people fiscally or physically on false science is intolerable. These figure and the whole global warming theory is based solely on computer modeling with questionable data plugged into them. Just my opinion, but if you believe in anthropagenic global warming/climate change your no different than the moonbats that believe the world will end this year in Dec thanks to a people who couldn't predict their own demise!
"Democrats in congress, the decent ones, don't even support that corrupt theory anymore."
Ruse? You mean anthropogenic global warming? You mean the scientific theory that Republican Presiential Candidate Mitt Romney had this to say about last year:
“I don’t speak for the scientific community, of course,” Romney said at a town-hall meeting in New Hampshire. “But I believe the world’s getting warmer. I can’t prove that, but I believe based on what I read that the world is getting warmer. And number two, I believe that humans contribute to that.”
And you think the world's only 6,000 years old too, I presume? If you want a consultation about your health, who's advice do you value more - a stock broker or a doctor? Do you consult a lawyer or a mechanic for car trouble?
Why you would value a career politician's OPINIONS about anything scientific is beyond me. I'll trust experts in the field and data over most anything else - and yes, my beliefs constantly evolve whenever new, better data is available. If you can present me with sufficient data to convince me otherwise, I'll gladly change my tune.
Further damning revelations are pouring in from the gaping wound that has inflicted the fast unraveling theory of the green monster that is man made global warming. As reported today by By Marc Morano of Climate Depot, Alabama State Climatologist Dr. John Christy of the University of Alabama in Huntsville, has split ranks with other members of the discredited “hockey team” of climatologists exposed for fraudulently hiding and destroying data in the Climategate scandal that broke on November 19, 2009.
Christy served as a UN IPCC lead author in 2001 for the 3rd assessment report and detailed in these new revelations he explains how he personally witnessed UN scientists attempting to distort the science for political purposes. But he fell from favour for proposing that the IPCC allow for well-credentialed climate scientists to craft a chapter on an alternative view presenting evidence for low climate sensitivity to greenhouse gases.
“I was at the table with three Europeans, and we were having lunch. And they were talking about their role as lead authors. And they were talking about how they were trying to make the report so dramatic that the United States would just have to sign that Kyoto Protocol,” Christy told CNN on May 2, 2007.
Christy’s statements carry even more weight when we examine the considerable pressure also being applied to him to keep quiet about the cracks appearing in the dodgy science dossiers being churned out for the IPCC. We get an insight into the conspiracy of secrecy Christy was opposing as he is one of the climatologists whose leaked emails are part of the Climategate scandal.
In the leaked CRU email dated Thu, 24 May 2001 11:33, Michael Mann was critical of Christy and scolded him for publicly showing dissent for not agreeing with Mann that 20th century temperatures were higher than the Medieval warm period:
“So do I [Mann] understand correctly that you are referring to the results of Dahl-Jensen et al as conflicting with what we say in the chapter? At the face of it, this argument has no merit whatsoever. I think we should all use a better explanation from you, since you seem to be arguing publically that the Dahl-Jensen et al record undermines what we’ve said in the chapter.”
Professor Phil Jones again tries to indicate the peer pressure they are all under not to make public admissions damaging to their ever more flawed theory in an email sent to Christy dated Tue Jul 5, 2005;
“The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn’t statistically significant.”
The unrelenting peer pressure being applied to Christy continues, this time coming from Michael Mann. Climatologists, Neville Nichols and Phil Jones discuss the issue in another leaked CRU email dated Wed Jul 6 15:07:45 2005.
“I know I [Nichols] could have asked John [Christy] about all of this, but I suspect he feels a bit over-burdened and harassed at the moment, and I didn’t want to add to the pressure on him, so thanks for passing this stuff on to me.”
Further emails substantiate that the “hockey team” were systematically applying peer pressure to convince Christy that recent weather balloon data (out of kilt with dodgy ground thermometer readings) was, itself in error.
Phil Jones admits, “the sondes [weather balloons] clearly show too much cooling in the stratosphere.”
The fact weather balloons were detecting cooling rather than warming in the tropical stratosphere was a key signal that the whole theory of anthropogenic global warming was probably wrong. Thus, to avoid embarrassment the “hockey team” rounded on Christy to conspire to suppress these facts.
Professor Christy has since proposed major reforms and changes to the way the UN IPCC report is produced. Christy has rejected the UN approach that produces “a document designed for uniformity and consensus.” Christy presented his views at a UN meeting in 2009. “An alternative view section written by well-credentialed climate scientists is needed,” Christy said. “If not, why not? What is there to fear? In a scientific area as uncertain as climate, the opinions of all are required,” he added. ‘The reception to my comments was especially cold’
At least the weather in Copenhagen is likely to be cooperating. The Danish Meteorological Institute predicts that temperatures in December, when the city will host the United Nations Climate Change Conference, will be one degree above the long-term average.
Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth's average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year.
Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the upcoming world summit in the Danish capital, where thousands of politicians, bureaucrats, scientists, business leaders and environmental activists plan to negotiate a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations.
Reached a Plateau
The planet's temperature curve rose sharply for almost 30 years, as global temperatures increased by an average of 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.25 degrees Fahrenheit) from the 1970s to the late 1990s. "At present, however, the warming is taking a break," confirms meteorologist Mojib Latif of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in the northern German city of Kiel. Latif, one of Germany's best-known climatologists, says that the temperature curve has reached a plateau. "There can be no argument about that," he says. "We have to face that fact."
Even though the temperature standstill probably has no effect on the long-term warming trend, it does raise doubts about the predictive value of climate models, and it is also a political issue. For months, climate change skeptics have been gloating over the findings on their Internet forums. This has prompted many a climatologist to treat the temperature data in public with a sense of shame, thereby damaging their own credibility.
"It cannot be denied that this is one of the hottest issues in the scientific community," says Jochem Marotzke, director of the Max Planck Institute for Meteorology in Hamburg. "We don't really know why this stagnation is taking place at this point."
Just a few weeks ago, Britain's Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research added more fuel to the fire with its latest calculations of global average temperatures. According to the Hadley figures, the world grew warmer by 0.07 degrees Celsius from 1999 to 2008 and not by the 0.2 degrees Celsius assumed by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. And, say the British experts, when their figure is adjusted for two naturally occurring climate phenomena, El Niño and La Niña, the resulting temperature trend is reduced to 0.0 degrees Celsius -- in other words, a standstill.
The differences among individual regions of the world are considerable. In the Arctic, for example, temperatures rose by almost three degrees Celsius, which led to a dramatic melting of sea ice. At the same time, temperatures declined in large areas of North America, the western Pacific and the Arabian Peninsula. Europe, including Germany, remains slightly in positive warming territory.
Mixed Messages
But a few scientists simply refuse to believe the British calculations. "Warming has continued in the last few years," says Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK). However, Rahmstorf is more or less alone in his view. Hamburg Max Planck Institute scientist Jochem Marotzke, on the other hand, says: "I hardly know any colleagues who would deny that it hasn't gotten warmer in recent years."
The controversy sends confusing and mixed messages to the lay public. Why is there such a vigorous debate over climate change, even though it isn't getting warmer at the moment? And how can it be that scientists cannot even arrive at a consensus on changes in temperatures, even though temperatures are constantly being measured?
The global temperature-monitoring network consists of 517 weather stations. But each reading is only a tiny dot on the big world map, and it has to be extrapolated to the entire region with the help of supercomputers. Besides, there are still many blind spots, the largest being the Arctic, where there are only about 20 measuring stations to cover a vast area. Climatologists refer to the problem as the "Arctic hole."
The scientists at the Hadley Center simply used the global average value for the hole, ignoring the fact that it has become significantly warmer in the Arctic, says Rahmstorf. But a NASA team from the Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, which does make the kinds of adjustments for the Arctic data that Rahmstorf believes are necessary, arrives at a flat temperature curve for the last five years that is similar to that of their British colleagues.
Marotzke and Leibniz Institute meteorologist Mojib Latif are even convinced that the fuzzy computing done by Rahmstorf is counterproductive. "We have to explain to the public that greenhouse gases will not cause temperatures to keep rising from one record temperature to the next, but that they are still subject to natural fluctuations," says Latif. For this reason, he adds, it is dangerous to cite individual weather-related occurrences, such as a drought in Mali or a hurricane, as proof positive that climate change is already fully underway.
"Perhaps we suggested too strongly in the past that the development will continue going up along a simple, straight line. In reality, phases of stagnation or even cooling are completely normal," says Latif.
Part 2: The Difficulties of Predicting the Climate
Climatologists use their computer models to draw temperature curves that continue well into the future. They predict that the average global temperature will increase by about three degrees Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century, unless humanity manages to drastically reduce greenhouse gas emissions. However, no one really knows what exactly the world climate will look like in the not-so-distant future, that is, in 2015, 2030 or 2050.
This is because it is not just human influence but natural factors that affect the Earth's climate. For instance, currents in the world's oceans are subject to certain cycles, as is solar activity. Major volcanic eruptions can also curb rising temperatures in the medium term. The eruption of Mount Pinatubo in June 1991, for example, caused world temperatures to drop by an average of 0.5 degrees Celsius, thereby prolonging a cooler climate phase that had begun in the late 1980s.
But the Mount Pinatubo eruption happened too long ago to be related to the current slowdown in global warming. So what is behind this more recent phenomenon?
Weaker Solar Activity
The fact is that the sun is weakening slightly. Its radiation activity is currently at a minimum, as evidenced by the small number of sunspots on its surface. According to calculations performed by a group of NASA scientists led by David Rind, which were recently published in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, this reduced solar activity is the most important cause of stagnating global warming.
Latif, on the other hand, attributes the stagnation to so-called Pacific decadal oscillation (PDO). This phenomenon in the Pacific Ocean allows a larger volume of cold deep-sea water to rise to the surface at the equator. According to Latif, this has a significant cooling effect on the Earth's atmosphere.
With his team at the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences, Latif has been one of the first to develop a model to create medium-term prognoses for the next five to 10 years. "We are slowly starting to attempt (such models)," says Marotzke, who is also launching a major project in this area, funded by the Federal Ministry for Research and Technology.
Despite their current findings, scientists agree that temperatures will continue to rise in the long term. The big question is: When will it start getting warmer again?
If the deep waters of the Pacific are, in fact, the most important factor holding up global warming, climate change will remain at a standstill until the middle of the next decade, says Latif. But if the cooling trend is the result of reduced solar activity, things could start getting warmer again much sooner. Based on past experience, solar activity will likely increase again in the next few years.
Betting on Warmer Temperatures
The Hadley Center group expects warming to resume in the coming years. "That resumption could come as a bit of a jolt," says Hadley climatologist Adam Scaife, explaining that natural cyclical warming would then be augmented by the warming effect caused by anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.
While climatologists at conferences engage in passionate debates over when temperatures will start rising again, global warming's next steps have also become the subject of betting activity.
Climatologist Stefan Rahmstorf is so convinced that his predictions will be correct in the end that he is willing to back up his conviction with a €2,500 ($3,700) bet. "I will win," says Rahmstorf.
His adversary Latif turned down the bet, saying that the matter was too serious for gambling. "We are scientists, not poker players."
Sorry to y'all but I have to agree that global warming does exist. Everyone has their opinions but I think those who think it does exist will get the last laugh on this one. And for shooting more ducks in the late season, I shoot a ton of wood ducks and teal in the early season and I will take those any day over late season divers or even malllards. Wood ducks and teal just taste better to me.
Just look at the difference in waders availible to duck hunters in the 60s compared to todays. The vehicles duck hunters drive today are a tad different too. I don't remember anyone owning a 4 wheel drive back in the day, today every dedicated hunter either owns one or has a hunting buddy with one. A hunter can get to, and get out of places that the 60s hunter could hardly think of getting to.
I do so miss the comments on F&S.
Dcast: that is the best explanation of what is happening in the scientific, political, and media spheres regarding climate change that I have read yet, and I've read a few trying to figure out what is what and who is telling the truth. What you said regarding the many variables, especially solar activity, makes more sense to me than the litany of near-religious fervor spouted by the apologists who want to blame mankind, pardon me, uh, humankind, for all of this planet's woes. Yes, there are more and more of us, and that means wild habitat is being decreased everywhere, which probably has more effect on global animal populations and, to some extent, climate than other factors derived from human activity. But to pass laws and regulations which materially affect economies and therefore people's ability to feed and clothe themselves based on indeterminant science, which by definition is always changing itself, is irresponsible at best, and possibly criminal. What gets me the most is the massive conspiracy (and I use that word advisedly) to stifle any contrary voices such as yourself. It's come to the point that I don't believe anyone anymore, especially if they are on that medium of the masses, TV (and now the internet which has more kooks and outright liars than ever before conceivable). which reminds me: you obviously have some serious credentials - would you consider identifying yourself by name? I think I may know who you are but stating your real name would add weight to your post with those fence sitters and others who like to think for themselves.
i still believe that the climate goes through stages of warming and cooling. do i think that humans are helping with that? yes. but thinking back, i have always had more luck later in the season.
Jeez, and all these years I thought the reason we killed more ducks later in the season was because they didn't get to Alabama until then,,,, I didn't realize how tunnel-visioned I was all these years until I read the reams of posts on this topic ;-)
I've always found that waterfowl are easier in the late season. The foul weather makes them more aggressive to move about/around and feed. Nobody like foul weather hunting more than a diehard duck hunter.
Most recognize that climates change, and change often. It is a matter whether you are a kook, or not, and believed MAN CAUSED climate to change. As bad as believing the dinosaurs became extinct because of their excessive farting.
So you liberals are still promoting that ruse, and behind obstructing fossil fuel generation backing the EPA? lol! I think you need to go find ALGore, and bring him out of hiding. Democrats in congress, the decent ones, don't even support that corrupt theory anymore.
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