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Action Delayed on Proposed Bill to Ban Hunting Dogs in CA

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August 09, 2012

Action Delayed on Proposed Bill to Ban Hunting Dogs in CA

--Chad Love

Action on the SB 1221 bill, which seeks to outlaw the use of dogs for bear and bobcat hunting in the state of California, has been delayed, for a while, at least.

You may recall the controversy over this bill, but it is still very much alive, thanks to a large public turnout -- both for and against -- at a recent public meeting.

From this story on redding.com
A bill to ban using hounds to hunt bear and bobcat drew what legislators said was one of the largest crowds in recent memory to a state Assembly committee hearing on Wednesday. Some 300 people showed up for the Assembly Appropriations Committee's vote on whether to approve SB1221. After dozens of people came forward to voice either opposition or support for the bill, the committee instead delayed action on the bill. "I would say that for high visibility issues, this is probably the biggest crowd I've seen," Appropriations Committee Chairman Felipe Fuentes said after the hearing. The committee is scheduled to take up the bill in about a week, said Fuentes, a Democrat from Arleta.

I don't live in California, so I can't speak from experience, but it does seem like Golden State hunters are the most besieged group of outdoorsmen in the nation. Is California the top hunting rights battleground state?

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from Safado wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

I live in California and I would say everything related to guns is more difficult than most other places that I have lived. It is definitely difficult to hunt here. For example to buy a hand gun you have to pass a handgun safety test, (to me that makes sense). When I lived in Michigan more than twenty years ago to purchase a handgun you had to get a permit which in my mind is more difficult than California. When I lived in Michigan I deer hunted and it was easy to get a tag. Michigun had a hunting culture, a lot of people hunted, talked openly about hunting, etc. In California in my experience people don't talk openly about hunting and tags are more difficult to get even though California is larger than Michigan in both land area and population. We now have areas where you can't shot bullets with lead in them so I use Barnes bullets. I have not hunted deer in California but I have hunted hogs. So I would say it is difficult but if you really want to hunt here you just have to jump a few more hurdles.

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from Dann wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

"it does seem like Golden State hunters are the most besieged group of outdoorsmen in the nation. Is California the top hunting rights battleground state?"

No truer words were spoken. HSUS, CBD are alive and well in our state. HSUS was sucessful in getting our game commissoner removed, changing the name of the State Game agency from Fish and Game to Fish and Wildlife and are attempting to ban the hound hunting.

Remember, it was these types of radical groups that successfully banned the use of lead ammunition in the heart of the state.

Furthermore, you know it's spring in CA because the first thing our legislature does is pass a ton of useless gun laws that have NEVER had an impact on crime reduction.

Sadly, I believe HSUS is winning in CA and your state is next.

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from belmer wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

California has a perfect storm:

1) Strong anti-hunter groups.
2) Strong anti-gun groups.
3) Strong hard core environmentalist groups.
4) Laws and taxes that heavily favor large landowners.

If hunting or trapping were put to the legislature or a referendum today, I believe it would be banned.

Millions of acres are going into Land Trusts which get favorable taxation without any conditions to allow public access. When public access is allowed, hunting is not. The bias is towards creating parks rather than multi-use public land even when people don't use them. (Henry Coe, which would be a beautiful hunting area gets 40,000 visitors per year. It's 87,000 acres.)

That said, California has a very active and well organized gun rights and hunting community. But it does seem like every couple of months some other restriction comes up for debate.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

It's good to see someone speaking up in CA, for all the good it will do. I wish all the hunters and sportsmen and sportswomen in CA the best. You will need it.

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from omarfishesalot wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

first they want to try to take away gamefish status from stripers now this? I think california outdoorsmen spend more time battling for there rightsin sacramento then actually being in the outdoors

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from HogBlog wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

If you need any further evidence of the influence of the anti-hunting/animal rights organizations in California, try this. Do a search through the articles about hunting issues in CA (lead ban, hound hunting, forced spay/neuter, etc.), and see how many times you find the name, Jennifer Fearing. Ms Fearing is the voice and face of HSUS in California, and she is becoming DEEPLY embedded in the Sacramento insiders network. She has the ear of influential people who are already not friends of sportsmen.

I'm really glad to see CA sportsmen finally making organized stands to defend their hunting traditions and privileges. It took long enough! But it's going to be a protracted battle, and I only hope the hunters and fishermen have the wherewithal to stay the course. And even then, it may be too little too late. I am not (obviously) optimistic.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 44 weeks 1 day ago

Won't be long before Washington suffers the same fate what with all the goober smoochers and tree huggers that have migrated up here over the years. They already banned hounds and bait for bear and cougar.

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from Red Salas wrote 44 weeks 12 hours ago

What do you expect from Libsville

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from Safado wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

I live in California and I would say everything related to guns is more difficult than most other places that I have lived. It is definitely difficult to hunt here. For example to buy a hand gun you have to pass a handgun safety test, (to me that makes sense). When I lived in Michigan more than twenty years ago to purchase a handgun you had to get a permit which in my mind is more difficult than California. When I lived in Michigan I deer hunted and it was easy to get a tag. Michigun had a hunting culture, a lot of people hunted, talked openly about hunting, etc. In California in my experience people don't talk openly about hunting and tags are more difficult to get even though California is larger than Michigan in both land area and population. We now have areas where you can't shot bullets with lead in them so I use Barnes bullets. I have not hunted deer in California but I have hunted hogs. So I would say it is difficult but if you really want to hunt here you just have to jump a few more hurdles.

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from Dann wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

"it does seem like Golden State hunters are the most besieged group of outdoorsmen in the nation. Is California the top hunting rights battleground state?"

No truer words were spoken. HSUS, CBD are alive and well in our state. HSUS was sucessful in getting our game commissoner removed, changing the name of the State Game agency from Fish and Game to Fish and Wildlife and are attempting to ban the hound hunting.

Remember, it was these types of radical groups that successfully banned the use of lead ammunition in the heart of the state.

Furthermore, you know it's spring in CA because the first thing our legislature does is pass a ton of useless gun laws that have NEVER had an impact on crime reduction.

Sadly, I believe HSUS is winning in CA and your state is next.

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from belmer wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

California has a perfect storm:

1) Strong anti-hunter groups.
2) Strong anti-gun groups.
3) Strong hard core environmentalist groups.
4) Laws and taxes that heavily favor large landowners.

If hunting or trapping were put to the legislature or a referendum today, I believe it would be banned.

Millions of acres are going into Land Trusts which get favorable taxation without any conditions to allow public access. When public access is allowed, hunting is not. The bias is towards creating parks rather than multi-use public land even when people don't use them. (Henry Coe, which would be a beautiful hunting area gets 40,000 visitors per year. It's 87,000 acres.)

That said, California has a very active and well organized gun rights and hunting community. But it does seem like every couple of months some other restriction comes up for debate.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

It's good to see someone speaking up in CA, for all the good it will do. I wish all the hunters and sportsmen and sportswomen in CA the best. You will need it.

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from omarfishesalot wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

first they want to try to take away gamefish status from stripers now this? I think california outdoorsmen spend more time battling for there rightsin sacramento then actually being in the outdoors

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from HogBlog wrote 44 weeks 2 days ago

If you need any further evidence of the influence of the anti-hunting/animal rights organizations in California, try this. Do a search through the articles about hunting issues in CA (lead ban, hound hunting, forced spay/neuter, etc.), and see how many times you find the name, Jennifer Fearing. Ms Fearing is the voice and face of HSUS in California, and she is becoming DEEPLY embedded in the Sacramento insiders network. She has the ear of influential people who are already not friends of sportsmen.

I'm really glad to see CA sportsmen finally making organized stands to defend their hunting traditions and privileges. It took long enough! But it's going to be a protracted battle, and I only hope the hunters and fishermen have the wherewithal to stay the course. And even then, it may be too little too late. I am not (obviously) optimistic.

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from WA Mtnhunter wrote 44 weeks 1 day ago

Won't be long before Washington suffers the same fate what with all the goober smoochers and tree huggers that have migrated up here over the years. They already banned hounds and bait for bear and cougar.

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from Red Salas wrote 44 weeks 12 hours ago

What do you expect from Libsville

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