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Bear Shooting in Grand Teton May Halt Elk Reduction Hunt
By Chad Love
The shooting of a grizzly bear in Grand Teton National Park by hunters participating in a special elk reduction hunt has sparked calls from opponents to end the hunt.
From this story in the Jackson Hole News and Guide:
A hunter who was yards away when others killed a grizzly in Grand Teton National Park on Thanksgiving Day described a volley of shots and then shocked men retreating from the woods. Charles Peet, of Jackson, said Monday that he was hunting “75 to 100 yards” from where 48-year-old David Trembly, of Dubois, and Trembly’s 20- and 17-year-old sons gunned down the adult male bear....Park officials investigating the incident haven’t said whether the three hunters deployed bear spray before the shooting. In a statement, park officials said the bear reportedly charged the hunters, who were licensed to shoot elk as part of the park’s “elk reduction program.”
According to the story, the shooting has led critics to call for park officials to shut down the hunt as well as an online petition. Thoughts?
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Comments (7)
Based on what little is said in the story, it seems like a risk of being outdoors. You can argue all day about whether they did or did not, or should or should not have had on them or tried to use bear spray.
The only facts I see are:
Three armed hunters were charged by a bear.
They killed said bear in self defense.
You may do so in self defense.
All else is supposition. Even if you had a spray cannister on your belt, but rifle in hand, considering how often bears reach guys before they get a shot off there seems to be barely time to employ the method that is already in hand. Fumbling for something else may be fatal.
For the folks that will say the death of a bear proves hunters just shouldn't be out there in the bear's land provocing such conflict, I say people have just as much right to be there. The death of the bear is regrettable in this instance, but using that argument you shouldn't store things in nor encroach into your attic because you may come into conflict with squirrels.
I agree with jcarlin. Bear spray will only stop a curious bear, and requires you to be close if it fails in stopping the bear then you are pretty much ******. If you want to pack something that you can give the bear a warning pack a 12 gauge with the first shot bird shot and the rest slugs. I personally carry a 45-70 loaded with 450 gr bullets and do everything to avoid grizzlies, not easy this time of year.
I think what jcarlin said that we have as much a right to be there as the bear isn't stated enough!
I just read a short article in a newspaper saying it was a dad and his two sons from Dubois. Dad shot bear spray at 20 and 10 feet, boys both shot at 8 foot. Have no idea of accuracy of news story. Maybe bear not running but moving towards.
I seem to remember the distance for USGS employees is 100 ft and orientated towards human.
I can't imagine having a grizzly interested in me. I'd say when you have humans and bears in the same place someone's going to get hurt sometimes. Better the bear than humans.
Hi...
If time was of the essence, what other choices did they have. I don't see any.
According to the limited info supplied, it read as 'kill or be killed'.
Sad a grizzly got killed, sadder if a father and his two sons had died.
It is one grizzly versus 3 people...it is sad either way worse if 3 lives are lost but still very sad that the grizzly's life is lost. The bear should be respected just as much, if not more than, any human.
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Based on what little is said in the story, it seems like a risk of being outdoors. You can argue all day about whether they did or did not, or should or should not have had on them or tried to use bear spray.
The only facts I see are:
Three armed hunters were charged by a bear.
They killed said bear in self defense.
You may do so in self defense.
All else is supposition. Even if you had a spray cannister on your belt, but rifle in hand, considering how often bears reach guys before they get a shot off there seems to be barely time to employ the method that is already in hand. Fumbling for something else may be fatal.
For the folks that will say the death of a bear proves hunters just shouldn't be out there in the bear's land provocing such conflict, I say people have just as much right to be there. The death of the bear is regrettable in this instance, but using that argument you shouldn't store things in nor encroach into your attic because you may come into conflict with squirrels.
I agree with jcarlin. Bear spray will only stop a curious bear, and requires you to be close if it fails in stopping the bear then you are pretty much ******. If you want to pack something that you can give the bear a warning pack a 12 gauge with the first shot bird shot and the rest slugs. I personally carry a 45-70 loaded with 450 gr bullets and do everything to avoid grizzlies, not easy this time of year.
Hi...
If time was of the essence, what other choices did they have. I don't see any.
According to the limited info supplied, it read as 'kill or be killed'.
I think what jcarlin said that we have as much a right to be there as the bear isn't stated enough!
Sad a grizzly got killed, sadder if a father and his two sons had died.
I just read a short article in a newspaper saying it was a dad and his two sons from Dubois. Dad shot bear spray at 20 and 10 feet, boys both shot at 8 foot. Have no idea of accuracy of news story. Maybe bear not running but moving towards.
I seem to remember the distance for USGS employees is 100 ft and orientated towards human.
I can't imagine having a grizzly interested in me. I'd say when you have humans and bears in the same place someone's going to get hurt sometimes. Better the bear than humans.
It is one grizzly versus 3 people...it is sad either way worse if 3 lives are lost but still very sad that the grizzly's life is lost. The bear should be respected just as much, if not more than, any human.
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