


January 14, 2013
Zambia to Ban Sport Hunting of Lions and Leopards
By Chad Love

The nation of Zambia is permanently banning the sport hunting of lions and leopards, citing a rapid decline in the number of the big cats.
From this story on BBC News:
Zambia's tourism minister said there was more value in game-viewing tourism than blood sport, which brought in just $3m (£1.9m) last year. Sylvia Masebo said the country did not have enough cats for hunting purposes. "Tourists come to Zambia to see the lion and if we lose the lion we will be killing our tourism industry," she told Reuters. But Chuma Simukonda from the Zambia Wildlife Authority (ZAWA) said the ban would be bad for tourism. "The population of cats in Zambia is around 3,400 to 3,500 and with the ban on safari hunting for cats, we are likely to lose on revenue," he told the AFP news agency. He said about 55 cats were killed by hunters each year.
According to the story, neighboring Botswana is planning to ban all sport hunting in 2014. Kenya halted hunting for sport decades ago. Thoughts? Anyone ever hunted Zambia or Botswana?
Comments (21)
At least there is one country that has a government with some common sense
If the country wants to close hunting, that is their prerogative, but don't blame it on over-harvesting.
Reducing a population of 3500 lions by only 55 each year (1.6%) is not going to hurt them at all. In fact it might actually have positive biological benefits for the lions, to say nothing of the economic boost (jobs, tourism, donated food, etc) to a developing country.
Oh really? What kind of common sense? We have been hunting these animals for several million years now. How is taking the human element out of the equation going to achieve any kind of natural balance? Annually only taking fifty cats out of three thousand seems unlikely to achieve anything close to balancing the equation anyway. Another case of regulation by nature freaks who really know nothing about the course of nature. Hardly what I or anyone else with half a brain should call "common sense."
This is a good idea. Big cats are magnificent animals and hunting them is a bad idea. Tigers are already endangered.
First, what the good folks of Zambia wish to do with their country is none of my business. Second, the leading protector of big game animals is the hunting industry. The hunting industry supports enough of the local economies to fund government anti poaching agencies.
Big Cat Trivia: Most lions shot in Africa are pen raised. The photo above is a perfect example of a pen raised lion. Wild lions do not possess such majestic manes.
Any serious discussion of this issue would revolve around habit loss and human encroachment. Controlled hunting with limits has shown over the last 50 years to have a positive effect on most big game species.
there is no need for some money bags to go to Africa and shoot a lion to begin with
Closing hunting down won't solve their problem. The biggest threat to these animals is habitat loss via "human encroachment." With populations on the rise and people continuing to encroach with urbanization and heavy agriculture. This may be the only time I am in agreement with OHH. Never thought that would happen.
Looks like more liberal nonsense...because ignoring the problem, always solves the problem.
Ugh, I was just planning a lion hunt in Zambia next week. Nothing ever goes my way.
everyone who has commented thus far is a softheaded idot.kenya banned all big and small game hunting and look what happened. strong decrease! as a matter of fact there are countries that have realized what they have done and seen the decrease in their wild life so they have reopened to hunting. and the fact that they said it was due to legal hunters is just going to add fire to the peta prick's fuel.
hhack, you hit both right on the head. Mayoaaron is way out of line. Some people, such as you, should just stay off this site.
Big cats are big meat eaters, this conflicts with human encroachment. I question the three million revenue figure, feel it is much larger. Taking cats requires a minimum 21 day hunt which camp costs alone will run a couple thousand per day per hunter and certainly no guarantee of a cat leopard or lion. Additional trophy fees will probably run 7 to 9 thousand per feline. Plus other costs in country. In my experience Zambia will not attract tourists who will spentd that kind of dough, when they can vist Tanzania or South Africa's Kruger, andmore readily see cats. Lots of brush in most of Zambia cat country.
Issue of hunting versus non hunting is an entirely different issue. Additional bit of cat trivia. The biggest lion killer is other lion.
Chad, you asked if anyone had hunted Zambia or Botzwana. Excluding travel have spent 100 plus days on the ground in each country.
Hi...
Although I'm not interested in trophy hunting, I think that Buckhunter has a good handle on the situation.
I think i was misunderstood up above. Trophy hunting is the only future these big cats have. If you take away hunting they become nothing more than a nuisance to the local population and will be killed for their conflicts. The only way we are going to keep them around is by keeping them valuable. Hunting is the only way to keep them valuable.
Adding to Buckhunters on the picture of the lion, which I am sure was just picked at random. The huge mane is a give away , it is a pen raised feline. In the wild an animal old enough to grow that much hair,would be lean, mean with scars on his face and body. Not fat and unblemished and relaxing next to tire tracks
Adding to Buckhunters on the picture of the lion, which I am sure was just picked at random. The huge mane is a give away , it is a pen raised feline. In the wild an animal old enough to grow that much hair,would be lean, mean with scars on his face and body. Not fat and unblemished and relaxing next to tire tracks
I hope that hunting continues in Botswana in 2014, mainly because elephants. Botswana is a country that has relatively few tags, except elephants. Contrary to many peoples belief, elephants aren't endangered and actually are over abundant in the areas that they inhabit. The biggest thing contributing to the conservation and management of elephants in Africa is the value of sport hunting. The meat goes to local tribes and villages, and the profits go to anti-poaching efforts. Botswana is known for some of the biggest bodied, thick tusked bulls on the dark continent, and if we stop efforts to help manage them now, where will their numbers be when Botswana opens again?
In all honesty, I do not hunt things I cannot eat, so I would never go hunting big cats. However, I have no problem with people who hunt for sport and trophies though. But in fairness, I am not sure it is financially the right move for African countries who are constantly on the brink of financial ruin. I guess time will tell.
bounty1, you cannot tell people what sites people can and connot go on, you stupid worthless scumbag
Hey guys.
I have never hunted big game in africa. I watch some of the big game shows on cable. I've seen how the hunters have helped the situation by providing meat to the villagers, the influx of cash to support local economies and provide the means to sustain sound conservation.
I have seen locally what well intentioned hunting laws have done to deer populations. Some of you should see the pictures of starving animals from over-population.
IMHO - Whatever any county decides to do with their hunting laws is no business of mine. Other forces are at work destroying wildlife world over. ie - loss of habitat, corrupt officials, Gov. red tape, Poaching, Changing weather patterns....etc.
I agree 100% with buckhunter, drobe2 and Happy Myles who show an insight to the situation and their posts. resonate with me. Also agree with hhack, bounty1, dneaster3 and Ontario Honker. You guys make some make good points.
Personally I don't shoot what I don't eat...but that's my business - I don't put down others who have the resources and the dream to hunt big game in a responsible manner.
E_Blair and Storm Hall: Sorry guys - I disagree for all the reasons I posted above.
mayoaaron, with all due respect sir - your the worthless scumbag here. Your comments are totally inappropriate and prove your a troll . Go post on a site with topics your familar with...
moron, or mayoaaron. I can't quite figure out if you're a jealous, no "money bags"? Or hard core PETA idiot? And if I got you all upset with my first post... Oh well...
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If the country wants to close hunting, that is their prerogative, but don't blame it on over-harvesting.
Reducing a population of 3500 lions by only 55 each year (1.6%) is not going to hurt them at all. In fact it might actually have positive biological benefits for the lions, to say nothing of the economic boost (jobs, tourism, donated food, etc) to a developing country.
Big cats are big meat eaters, this conflicts with human encroachment. I question the three million revenue figure, feel it is much larger. Taking cats requires a minimum 21 day hunt which camp costs alone will run a couple thousand per day per hunter and certainly no guarantee of a cat leopard or lion. Additional trophy fees will probably run 7 to 9 thousand per feline. Plus other costs in country. In my experience Zambia will not attract tourists who will spentd that kind of dough, when they can vist Tanzania or South Africa's Kruger, andmore readily see cats. Lots of brush in most of Zambia cat country.
Issue of hunting versus non hunting is an entirely different issue. Additional bit of cat trivia. The biggest lion killer is other lion.
Chad, you asked if anyone had hunted Zambia or Botzwana. Excluding travel have spent 100 plus days on the ground in each country.
First, what the good folks of Zambia wish to do with their country is none of my business. Second, the leading protector of big game animals is the hunting industry. The hunting industry supports enough of the local economies to fund government anti poaching agencies.
Big Cat Trivia: Most lions shot in Africa are pen raised. The photo above is a perfect example of a pen raised lion. Wild lions do not possess such majestic manes.
Any serious discussion of this issue would revolve around habit loss and human encroachment. Controlled hunting with limits has shown over the last 50 years to have a positive effect on most big game species.
Adding to Buckhunters on the picture of the lion, which I am sure was just picked at random. The huge mane is a give away , it is a pen raised feline. In the wild an animal old enough to grow that much hair,would be lean, mean with scars on his face and body. Not fat and unblemished and relaxing next to tire tracks
Ugh, I was just planning a lion hunt in Zambia next week. Nothing ever goes my way.
Adding to Buckhunters on the picture of the lion, which I am sure was just picked at random. The huge mane is a give away , it is a pen raised feline. In the wild an animal old enough to grow that much hair,would be lean, mean with scars on his face and body. Not fat and unblemished and relaxing next to tire tracks
Hey guys.
I have never hunted big game in africa. I watch some of the big game shows on cable. I've seen how the hunters have helped the situation by providing meat to the villagers, the influx of cash to support local economies and provide the means to sustain sound conservation.
I have seen locally what well intentioned hunting laws have done to deer populations. Some of you should see the pictures of starving animals from over-population.
IMHO - Whatever any county decides to do with their hunting laws is no business of mine. Other forces are at work destroying wildlife world over. ie - loss of habitat, corrupt officials, Gov. red tape, Poaching, Changing weather patterns....etc.
I agree 100% with buckhunter, drobe2 and Happy Myles who show an insight to the situation and their posts. resonate with me. Also agree with hhack, bounty1, dneaster3 and Ontario Honker. You guys make some make good points.
Personally I don't shoot what I don't eat...but that's my business - I don't put down others who have the resources and the dream to hunt big game in a responsible manner.
E_Blair and Storm Hall: Sorry guys - I disagree for all the reasons I posted above.
mayoaaron, with all due respect sir - your the worthless scumbag here. Your comments are totally inappropriate and prove your a troll . Go post on a site with topics your familar with...
Oh really? What kind of common sense? We have been hunting these animals for several million years now. How is taking the human element out of the equation going to achieve any kind of natural balance? Annually only taking fifty cats out of three thousand seems unlikely to achieve anything close to balancing the equation anyway. Another case of regulation by nature freaks who really know nothing about the course of nature. Hardly what I or anyone else with half a brain should call "common sense."
Closing hunting down won't solve their problem. The biggest threat to these animals is habitat loss via "human encroachment." With populations on the rise and people continuing to encroach with urbanization and heavy agriculture. This may be the only time I am in agreement with OHH. Never thought that would happen.
Looks like more liberal nonsense...because ignoring the problem, always solves the problem.
everyone who has commented thus far is a softheaded idot.kenya banned all big and small game hunting and look what happened. strong decrease! as a matter of fact there are countries that have realized what they have done and seen the decrease in their wild life so they have reopened to hunting. and the fact that they said it was due to legal hunters is just going to add fire to the peta prick's fuel.
Hi...
Although I'm not interested in trophy hunting, I think that Buckhunter has a good handle on the situation.
I think i was misunderstood up above. Trophy hunting is the only future these big cats have. If you take away hunting they become nothing more than a nuisance to the local population and will be killed for their conflicts. The only way we are going to keep them around is by keeping them valuable. Hunting is the only way to keep them valuable.
I hope that hunting continues in Botswana in 2014, mainly because elephants. Botswana is a country that has relatively few tags, except elephants. Contrary to many peoples belief, elephants aren't endangered and actually are over abundant in the areas that they inhabit. The biggest thing contributing to the conservation and management of elephants in Africa is the value of sport hunting. The meat goes to local tribes and villages, and the profits go to anti-poaching efforts. Botswana is known for some of the biggest bodied, thick tusked bulls on the dark continent, and if we stop efforts to help manage them now, where will their numbers be when Botswana opens again?
In all honesty, I do not hunt things I cannot eat, so I would never go hunting big cats. However, I have no problem with people who hunt for sport and trophies though. But in fairness, I am not sure it is financially the right move for African countries who are constantly on the brink of financial ruin. I guess time will tell.
moron, or mayoaaron. I can't quite figure out if you're a jealous, no "money bags"? Or hard core PETA idiot? And if I got you all upset with my first post... Oh well...
hhack, you hit both right on the head. Mayoaaron is way out of line. Some people, such as you, should just stay off this site.
bounty1, you cannot tell people what sites people can and connot go on, you stupid worthless scumbag
At least there is one country that has a government with some common sense
This is a good idea. Big cats are magnificent animals and hunting them is a bad idea. Tigers are already endangered.
there is no need for some money bags to go to Africa and shoot a lion to begin with
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